[grc] Question about reading articles on air

[Rip Robbins]

As with most copyright law, the boundaries and permissions are not always clearly delineated:  The NYT permission page does not quantify the amount of a news piece that can be re-used (with attribution), and is purposefully vague about when it may consider a use to be inappropriate.
Example:  "The context, number and length of the quotes will determine whether permission is required."
That statement gives not clear definition of those numbers, and I doubt that everyone referring to a NYT piece will contact the Times to find out.
Fair Use is subjective, depending on whether you are the re-user or the original writer.  People who re-use will say that all use is permitted, and the Original Writer will probably argue that point.
So your own policy at your station will need to suffice, until a cease and desist letter is received.  We all like to get paid for our work, but we don't always like to pay for material that we use in our work.

Rip

-----Original Message-----
From: grc [mailto:grc-bounces at maillist.peak.org] On Behalf Of Danny via grc
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 3:11 PM
To: grc at peak.org
Subject: Re: [grc] Question about reading articles on air

Since you brought it up, here is the NY Times policy on this: http://www.nytimes.com/content/help/rights/permissions/permissions.html

Publications and authors are trying to get paid for their content generation. Giving away enough of it for free so paying no longer makes sense is taking away their rightful income.

Danny
WSPJ-LP Syracuse NY

-----Original Message-----
From: Lanny Cotler [mailto:lcotler at gmail.com] On Behalf Of Lanny Cotler
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 5:49 PM
To: Danny; grc at peak.org
Subject: Re: [grc] Question about reading articles on air

Only a thought, I am not a legal expert.

Reading a short article or a part of it, to make a point, could be journalism, reporting, reviewing, which is covered by “fair use”. 

I don’t need to get the permission of the NYT to quote from their pages.

Just sayin’…



Lanny
KLLG-LP
Willits, CA
> On May 23, 2016, at 2:42 PM, Danny via grc <grc at maillist.peak.org> wrote:
> 
> It's not only up the writer, it's also up to the publication. Either 
> can legally say no. Reading them over the air is no different 
> functionally than handing out photocopies of published books. It's 
> going to make them very angry and they have every right to legal action.
> 
> Talk to the publication and see if you can work out a deal with them. 
> It'll depend on what you have in mind.  But publishing something does 
> not make it public domain.
> 
> Danny
> WSPJ-LP Syracuse NY
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: grc [mailto:grc-bounces at maillist.peak.org] On Behalf Of David 
> Goodman via grc
> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 9:59 AM
> To: Musa Zwana
> Cc: GRC list
> Subject: Re: [grc] Question about reading articles on air
> 
> We've contacted online sources such as Common Dreams and Real News 
> Network and received permission to read their articles on-air. But 
> we've never done that with our local dailies. However, we always cite 
> the source and attribute the writer. But I've got a better idea for 
> your news shows: why don't you contact the reporter and ask if 
> she/he/they will do a two-way with you. That gets you your story and solves everyone's attribution issues.
> 
> Cheers,
> dg
> 
> WMBR, Cambridge, MA
> 
> On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 9:13 AM, Musa Zwana via grc 
> <grc at maillist.peak.org>
> wrote:
> 
>> Can someone explain or point me to info about the legalities of 
>> reading an already published article (say from the local newspaper) 
>> on air on the community radio station? Wondering if that is one 
>> option for getting stories for our news show.
>> 
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