From ksholcomb at gmail.com Sat Oct 1 18:31:49 2016 From: ksholcomb at gmail.com (Karen Holcomb) Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2016 20:31:49 -0500 Subject: [grc] press release for GRC 2016 Message-ID: FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Media contact Zac Smith 501-262-8757 zac at kuhsradio.org KUHS-LP 97.9 BRINGS NATIONAL RADIO CELEBRITIES TO SPA TOWN This October 7th, National Community Radio Celebrities will converge on the resort town of Hot Springs, Arkansas for the 20th Anniversary of the Grassroots Radio Conference. The conference is held downtown Hot Springs Oct. 7-10, 2016 at the Springs Hotel, Maxwell Blade's Theater, and Low Key Arts. Session topics will include solar power installation, open source software, FM transmit chains, grant writing, live remote broadcasts, station management and much more. The conference is an annual event of the Grassroots Radio Coalition, which invites community radio volunteers and activists to gather and learn new skills, discuss issues, network, and have fun. Founded in 1996, the GRC is dedicated to preserving the grassroots nature of community radio and to developing this medium. The conference is hosted at a different location each year by a community radio station in the area. ?As a young station, we're honored to host the 20th annual gathering of the Grassroots Radio Coalition,? said KUHS Station Manager Zachary Smith. ?It's a great organization that's helped pave the way for new, low-power stations like ours.? Launched in August 2015, KUHS is Arkansas' first and only solar powered station. It was engineered by Bob Nagy, who will offer courses on alternative technologies at this year's conference. Clyde Clifford, host of Beaker Street, will present Saturday night's Keynote Address. Beginning in 1966, KAAY's 50,000 watt AM signal carried Clifford's late-night program out from Little Rock up into central Canada and down into communist Cuba. Beaker Street developed a broad international following and is recognized as the first underground music program in the Midwest. The speakers converging in Hot Springs this October are among America's most important radio activists. Jim Ellinger of Austin Airwaves has set up community stations in over 15 countries and will discuss his global experiences in radio during Friday night's opening keynote. The daytime workshops at the Grassroots Radio Conference include Music Licensing sessions from Ken Freedman, General Manager of WFMU, FCC compliance workshops from Michelle Bradley of RecNetworks, and Emergency Response Strategies from Brice Phillips of Radio Katrina. Other presenters include Ursula Ruedenberg of Pacifica Radio, Jennifer Waits of Radio Survivor, Will Floyd of the Prometheus Radio Project, and many more. ?Some of the best minds of community radio will be gathered together here in Hot Springs, and we're excited to have them share their wealth of knowledge,? Smith said. ?We're also looking forward to showcasing our little town. We think this year's conference will be truly memorable with great presenters and lots of quirky fun.? The 2016 GRC will kick off the evening of Friday, Oct. 7 and will continue through Mon., Oct. 10. Breakfast and lunch will be provided throughout the conference. Tickets are available at www.GRC2016.net . From bame at riverrock.org Sat Oct 1 18:32:59 2016 From: bame at riverrock.org (Paul Bame) Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2016 21:32:59 -0400 Subject: [grc] [Stubblefield] Using a digital stream as STL to LPFM transmitter site In-Reply-To: <002101d21aa6$83570fe0$8a052fa0$@wspj.org> References: <002101d21aa6$83570fe0$8a052fa0$@wspj.org> Message-ID: <476b86e24503b694a67c8f5e105e56a8@riverrock.org> A few other things to think about... CD-format audio (44.1k samples/sec, stereo, linear 16-bit PCM), which is overkill for radio's 15kHz bandwidth, can be pushed through a 2 megabit pipe. Unless you're stuck with DSL, entry-level cable and fiber internet is plenty for that. Which means it is more realistic than it used to be when I first set up streaming a long time ago, to use uncompressed audio, which you might even call "direct". Which means the delay can be tiny. Compression algorithms add delay, and usually additional delay through buffering too. I think the Barix boxes have a "direct" sort of capability. However a tiny audio delay means that small network delays turn into audible dropouts. And there can be some surprising sources of delays, like for example some network cards and drivers re-negotiate the network link speed once in a while which can cause a delay. And if you're going across 2 ISPs, those variables are going to add up, and to keep a reliable-sounding signal, a larger amount of buffering/delay will be required to paste over network hiccups and variations which you wouldn't even notice if just surfing the web. And a delayed audio signal can work just fine for almost everything. 20 or 30 seconds of delay/buffer can smooth over a lot of network problems and for all but the most particular of people and automated recorders, show start/end times and announcements of time-of-day and station IDs, are close enough even without pre-compensating for the delay. Delays are hell for phone-in if the caller doesn't know to mute their radio! From musicdirector at wortfm.org Tue Oct 4 17:20:48 2016 From: musicdirector at wortfm.org (sybil augustine) Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2016 19:20:48 -0500 Subject: [grc] Digital editing software for workstations? Message-ID: Hello, hive mind! >From WORT's IT department, a question as we attempt to switch over to updated, licensed software for use by volunteers: *What are your recommendations for the most reliable and affordable digital editing software?* Some of our thoughts below. "For our other major potential expense, our audio production software, we're looking at REAPER as a replacement for Adobe Audition and Sound Forge, both of which are out of date and not legally licensed for all our machines. It's a fast and modern digital audio workstation with full support for VST, a range of digital control surfaces, unlimited tracks, and professional and virtual sound card drivers. REAPER is available for $60 per license for nonprofits (as a concurrency license, so we would need only license the number of machines we anticipate would need simultaneous access). By comparison, the nonprofit license for Audition, and the multitrack version of Sound Forge, are between two and three times this price. We may also install Audacity as a basic audio editor. It also supports multitrack projects and, while not as fast or capable as Reaper, is entirely free and open source." Anything you can share would be much appreciated, and you can reply either on- or off-list. Best regards, Sybil Augustine -- ?This will be our reply to violence: to make music more intensely, more beautifully, more devotedly than ever before.? *? Leonard Bernstein* [image: WORT 89.9FM] *Sybil Augustine* *Music Director* WORT 89.9 FM Community Radio wortfm.org 118 S. Bedford St, Madison, WI USA 53703-2626 608.256.2001 TRACKING: WED. 1-4 pm Central PsychoacousticsRadioShow.on.WORT.FM ~~ Apathy is our worst enemy. ~~ From wings at wings.org Tue Oct 4 20:59:06 2016 From: wings at wings.org (Frieda Werden) Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2016 23:59:06 -0400 Subject: [grc] Digital editing software for workstations? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have been using and teaching Audacity for quite a long time now. It is free - can't get cheaper than that - and open source. Back some years ago when the GRC was held in Santa Barbara, there was a tech meeting at which we discussed that Audacity was not ready for prime time; however, it has been vastly improved since then and is now quite stable and has a large basket of available effects. The station where I worked also kept Adobe Audition on hand, but mostly taught Audacity. The great advantage of teaching volunteers on a free and open source program is that they can use it at home or on their laptops. Also, it is a multi-platform program that can be used on PC (any OS, including Windows 10), Mac, and Linux. I got a "free" Sound Forge when I bought an expensive audio recorder a couple of years ago, and find that it has basically not changed since the free version that Norm Stockwell gave out at GRC in Madison in the '90s. It was given free to community radios by the manufacturer. It is still not multi-track. Occasionally I revert to it for a couple of features I like. On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 8:20 PM, sybil augustine via grc < grc at maillist.peak.org> wrote: > Hello, hive mind! > > From WORT's IT department, a question as we attempt to switch over to > updated, licensed software for use by volunteers: > > *What are your recommendations for the most reliable and affordable digital > editing software?* Some of our thoughts below. > > "For our other major potential expense, our audio production software, > we're looking at REAPER as a replacement for Adobe Audition and Sound > Forge, both of which are out of date and not legally licensed for all our > machines. It's a fast and modern digital audio workstation with full > support for VST, a range of digital control surfaces, unlimited tracks, and > professional and virtual sound card drivers. > > REAPER is available for $60 per license for nonprofits (as a concurrency > license, so we would need only license the number of machines we anticipate > would need simultaneous access). By comparison, the nonprofit license for > Audition, and the multitrack version of Sound Forge, are between two and > three times this price. > > We may also install Audacity as a basic audio editor. It also supports > multitrack projects and, while not as fast or capable as Reaper, is > entirely free and open source." > > Anything you can share would be much appreciated, and you can reply either > on- or off-list. > > Best regards, > > Sybil Augustine > > > > -- > ?This will be our reply to violence: to make music more intensely, more > beautifully, more devotedly than ever before.? *? Leonard Bernstein* > > > [image: WORT 89.9FM] *Sybil Augustine* > *Music Director* > WORT 89.9 FM Community Radio wortfm.org > 118 S. Bedford St, Madison, WI USA 53703-2626 > 608.256.2001 TRACKING: WED. 1-4 pm Central > PsychoacousticsRadioShow.on.WORT.FM > > > WORTFM> > ~~ Apathy is our worst enemy. ~~ > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > -- Frieda Werden, Series Producer WINGS: Women's International News Gathering Service www.wings.org From ehowland at danenet.org Tue Oct 4 22:25:59 2016 From: ehowland at danenet.org (Eric Howland) Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2016 00:25:59 -0500 Subject: [grc] Digital editing software for workstations? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At the Aims Iowa GRC I had the impression that Audacity was becoming a standard or at least a baseline for GRC stations. As Frieda suggests, I think it was primarily the maturation of Audacity coupled with the ability to have it everywhere (homes, laptops, studios) for free. It could also be that the main interface is pretty simple and easy to teach. One other advantage of Audacity is that it has great training videos contributed by the community. I don't think you can replace your training with links to video's, but building the training around video's gives the students someplace to refresh their memories. On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 10:59 PM, Frieda Werden via grc < grc at maillist.peak.org> wrote: > I have been using and teaching Audacity for quite a long time now. It is > free - can't get cheaper than that - and open source. Back some years ago > when the GRC was held in Santa Barbara, there was a tech meeting at which > we discussed that Audacity was not ready for prime time; however, it has > been vastly improved since then and is now quite stable and has a large > basket of available effects. The station where I worked also kept Adobe > Audition on hand, but mostly taught Audacity. The great advantage of > teaching volunteers on a free and open source program is that they can use > it at home or on their laptops. Also, it is a multi-platform program that > can be used on PC (any OS, including Windows 10), Mac, and Linux. > > I got a "free" Sound Forge when I bought an expensive audio recorder a > couple of years ago, and find that it has basically not changed since the > free version that Norm Stockwell gave out at GRC in Madison in the '90s. > It was given free to community radios by the manufacturer. It is still not > multi-track. Occasionally I revert to it for a couple of features I like. > > On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 8:20 PM, sybil augustine via grc < > grc at maillist.peak.org> wrote: > > > Hello, hive mind! > > > > From WORT's IT department, a question as we attempt to switch over to > > updated, licensed software for use by volunteers: > > > > *What are your recommendations for the most reliable and affordable > digital > > editing software?* Some of our thoughts below. > > > > "For our other major potential expense, our audio production software, > > we're looking at REAPER as a replacement for Adobe Audition and Sound > > Forge, both of which are out of date and not legally licensed for all our > > machines. It's a fast and modern digital audio workstation with full > > support for VST, a range of digital control surfaces, unlimited tracks, > and > > professional and virtual sound card drivers. > > > > REAPER is available for $60 per license for nonprofits (as a concurrency > > license, so we would need only license the number of machines we > anticipate > > would need simultaneous access). By comparison, the nonprofit license for > > Audition, and the multitrack version of Sound Forge, are between two and > > three times this price. > > > > We may also install Audacity as a basic audio editor. It also supports > > multitrack projects and, while not as fast or capable as Reaper, is > > entirely free and open source." > > > > Anything you can share would be much appreciated, and you can reply > either > > on- or off-list. > > > > Best regards, > > > > Sybil Augustine > > > > > > > > -- > > ?This will be our reply to violence: to make music more intensely, more > > beautifully, more devotedly than ever before.? *? Leonard Bernstein* > > > > > > [image: WORT 89.9FM] *Sybil Augustine* > > *Music Director* > > WORT 89.9 FM Community Radio wortfm.org > > 118 S. Bedford St, Madison, WI USA 53703-2626 > > 608.256.2001 TRACKING: WED. 1-4 pm Central > > PsychoacousticsRadioShow.on.WORT.FM > > > > > > > WORTFM> > > ~~ Apathy is our worst enemy. ~~ > > _______________________________________________ > > grc mailing list > > grc at maillist.peak.org > > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > > > > > > -- > Frieda Werden, Series Producer > WINGS: Women's International News Gathering Service www.wings.org > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > From jimedia at grandecom.net Wed Oct 5 08:01:38 2016 From: jimedia at grandecom.net (Jim Ellinger) Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2016 10:01:38 -0500 Subject: [grc] test In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6b814f34-0092-1a85-e795-026c9ab8a3f2@grandecom.net> test > ********************************** > > > From jhuotari at cox.net Wed Oct 5 08:23:50 2016 From: jhuotari at cox.net (Martin J. Huotari) Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2016 08:23:50 -0700 Subject: [grc] Digital editing software for workstations? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <626F28B4-BBCE-4856-A15C-9701967FFEBB@cox.net> Audacity is our standard at KSCW-LP in Sun City West, AZ. However, because I haven?t had time to fully learn it, I have been successfully using Apple?s Garageband and a Snowball Microphone on my MacBook Pro for making PSAs and promos from home. It allows for editing multi tracks, pulling music and sound effects into the recording and then sharing it with iTunes in MP3 or M4A format. I then use MP3Gain to standardize the volume before putting it into our station?s library for use by Command Center software. I don?t have to use the equipment in our one room studio this way. I do have Audacity loaded on my laptop, and will eventually learn to use it so I have a common terminology and knowledge base to use when discussing with other producers and engineers. I end up using Garageband only because I was already familiar with it and I don?t have a learning curve for learning another system. > On Oct 4, 2016, at 8:59 PM, Frieda Werden via grc wrote: > > I have been using and teaching Audacity for quite a long time now. It is > free - can't get cheaper than that - and open source. Back some years ago > when the GRC was held in Santa Barbara, there was a tech meeting at which > we discussed that Audacity was not ready for prime time; however, it has > been vastly improved since then and is now quite stable and has a large > basket of available effects. The station where I worked also kept Adobe > Audition on hand, but mostly taught Audacity. The great advantage of > teaching volunteers on a free and open source program is that they can use > it at home or on their laptops. Also, it is a multi-platform program that > can be used on PC (any OS, including Windows 10), Mac, and Linux. > > I got a "free" Sound Forge when I bought an expensive audio recorder a > couple of years ago, and find that it has basically not changed since the > free version that Norm Stockwell gave out at GRC in Madison in the '90s. > It was given free to community radios by the manufacturer. It is still not > multi-track. Occasionally I revert to it for a couple of features I like. > > On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 8:20 PM, sybil augustine via grc < > grc at maillist.peak.org> wrote: > >> Hello, hive mind! >> >> From WORT's IT department, a question as we attempt to switch over to >> updated, licensed software for use by volunteers: >> >> *What are your recommendations for the most reliable and affordable digital >> editing software?* Some of our thoughts below. >> >> "For our other major potential expense, our audio production software, >> we're looking at REAPER as a replacement for Adobe Audition and Sound >> Forge, both of which are out of date and not legally licensed for all our >> machines. It's a fast and modern digital audio workstation with full >> support for VST, a range of digital control surfaces, unlimited tracks, and >> professional and virtual sound card drivers. >> >> REAPER is available for $60 per license for nonprofits (as a concurrency >> license, so we would need only license the number of machines we anticipate >> would need simultaneous access). By comparison, the nonprofit license for >> Audition, and the multitrack version of Sound Forge, are between two and >> three times this price. >> >> We may also install Audacity as a basic audio editor. It also supports >> multitrack projects and, while not as fast or capable as Reaper, is >> entirely free and open source." >> >> Anything you can share would be much appreciated, and you can reply either >> on- or off-list. >> >> Best regards, >> >> Sybil Augustine >> >> >> >> -- >> ?This will be our reply to violence: to make music more intensely, more >> beautifully, more devotedly than ever before.? *? Leonard Bernstein* >> >> >> [image: WORT 89.9FM] *Sybil Augustine* >> *Music Director* >> WORT 89.9 FM Community Radio wortfm.org >> 118 S. Bedford St, Madison, WI USA 53703-2626 >> 608.256.2001 TRACKING: WED. 1-4 pm Central >> PsychoacousticsRadioShow.on.WORT.FM >> >> >> > WORTFM> >> ~~ Apathy is our worst enemy. ~~ >> _______________________________________________ >> grc mailing list >> grc at maillist.peak.org >> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc >> > > > > -- > Frieda Werden, Series Producer > WINGS: Women's International News Gathering Service www.wings.org > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc From peggy at kgua.org Wed Oct 5 08:32:02 2016 From: peggy at kgua.org (Peggy Berryhill) Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2016 08:32:02 -0700 Subject: [grc] Digital editing software for workstations? In-Reply-To: <1475681039.135515.p3plgemini17-10.prod.phx.3945309952> References: <1475681039.135515.p3plgemini17-10.prod.phx.3945309952> Message-ID: For MAC users who need a quick editor for voice overs and easy track editing I love Twisted Wave Lite. It?s about $20.00 from the App Store and I use it daily; it has also has ?EFX. I wish there was something similar for Windows. There is an expanded version of Twisted Wave that includes the LUFS standard but it is more expensive. I also use Protools for quality multi track mixes but do all my pre-edits in Twisted Wave. Hindenburg has a lot of wonderful features. Like many others I use Audacity for Windows. From:?Martin J. Huotari via grc Reply:?Martin J. Huotari Date:?October 5, 2016 at 8:23:50 AM To:?Frieda Werden Cc:?GRC list , sybil augustine Subject:? Re: [grc] Digital editing software for workstations? Audacity is our standard at KSCW-LP in Sun City West, AZ. However, because I haven?t had time to fully learn it, I have been successfully using Apple?s Garageband and a Snowball Microphone on my MacBook Pro for making PSAs and promos from home. It allows for editing multi tracks, pulling music and sound effects into the recording and then sharing it with iTunes in MP3 or M4A format. I then use MP3Gain to standardize the volume before putting it into our station?s library for use by Command Center software. I don?t have to use the equipment in our one room studio this way. I do have Audacity loaded on my laptop, and will eventually learn to use it so I have a common terminology and knowledge base to use when discussing with other producers and engineers. I end up using Garageband only because I was already familiar with it and I don?t have a learning curve for learning another system. > On Oct 4, 2016, at 8:59 PM, Frieda Werden via grc wrote: > > I have been using and teaching Audacity for quite a long time now. It is > free - can't get cheaper than that - and open source. Back some years ago > when the GRC was held in Santa Barbara, there was a tech meeting at which > we discussed that Audacity was not ready for prime time; however, it has > been vastly improved since then and is now quite stable and has a large > basket of available effects. The station where I worked also kept Adobe > Audition on hand, but mostly taught Audacity. The great advantage of > teaching volunteers on a free and open source program is that they can use > it at home or on their laptops. Also, it is a multi-platform program that > can be used on PC (any OS, including Windows 10), Mac, and Linux. > > I got a "free" Sound Forge when I bought an expensive audio recorder a > couple of years ago, and find that it has basically not changed since the > free version that Norm Stockwell gave out at GRC in Madison in the '90s. > It was given free to community radios by the manufacturer. It is still not > multi-track. Occasionally I revert to it for a couple of features I like. > > On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 8:20 PM, sybil augustine via grc < > grc at maillist.peak.org> wrote: > >> Hello, hive mind! >> >> From WORT's IT department, a question as we attempt to switch over to >> updated, licensed software for use by volunteers: >> >> *What are your recommendations for the most reliable and affordable digital >> editing software?* Some of our thoughts below. >> >> "For our other major potential expense, our audio production software, >> we're looking at REAPER as a replacement for Adobe Audition and Sound >> Forge, both of which are out of date and not legally licensed for all our >> machines. It's a fast and modern digital audio workstation with full >> support for VST, a range of digital control surfaces, unlimited tracks, and >> professional and virtual sound card drivers. >> >> REAPER is available for $60 per license for nonprofits (as a concurrency >> license, so we would need only license the number of machines we anticipate >> would need simultaneous access). By comparison, the nonprofit license for >> Audition, and the multitrack version of Sound Forge, are between two and >> three times this price. >> >> We may also install Audacity as a basic audio editor. It also supports >> multitrack projects and, while not as fast or capable as Reaper, is >> entirely free and open source." >> >> Anything you can share would be much appreciated, and you can reply either >> on- or off-list. >> >> Best regards, >> >> Sybil Augustine >> >> >> >> -- >> ?This will be our reply to violence: to make music more intensely, more >> beautifully, more devotedly than ever before.? *? Leonard Bernstein* >> >> >> [image: WORT 89.9FM] *Sybil Augustine* >> *Music Director* >> WORT 89.9 FM Community Radio wortfm.org >> 118 S. Bedford St, Madison, WI USA 53703-2626 >> 608.256.2001 TRACKING: WED. 1-4 pm Central >> PsychoacousticsRadioShow.on.WORT.FM >> >> >> > WORTFM> >> ~~ Apathy is our worst enemy. ~~ >> _______________________________________________ >> grc mailing list >> grc at maillist.peak.org >> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc >> > > > > -- > Frieda Werden, Series Producer > WINGS: Women's International News Gathering Service www.wings.org > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc _______________________________________________ grc mailing list grc at maillist.peak.org http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc From dklann at wdrt.org Wed Oct 5 08:41:22 2016 From: dklann at wdrt.org (David Klann) Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2016 10:41:22 -0500 Subject: [grc] Digital editing software for workstations? In-Reply-To: References: <1475681039.135515.p3plgemini17-10.prod.phx.3945309952> Message-ID: At WDRT we use Audacity exclusively for recording and producing shows, promos, spots and, well, everything. We love Audacity because works on all three major platforms, it's well supported, completely capable, and not least, Open Source. In fact, there's an effort underway now that will link Audacity directly with our automation system, Rivendell. We'll be able to export productions directly from Audacity to the automation library saving several (sometimes confusing) steps in the workflow. Two beautiful things about Open Source are 1) this ability to morph software to do things the original author never considered, and 2) to share those changes with others. ~David Klann TechOps Coordinator, WDRT, Viroqua, WI On 10/05/2016 10:32 AM, Peggy Berryhill via grc wrote: > For MAC users who need a quick editor for voice overs and easy track editing I love Twisted Wave Lite. It?s about $20.00 from the App Store and I use it daily; it has also has EFX. I wish there was something similar for Windows. There is an expanded version of Twisted Wave that includes the LUFS standard but it is more expensive. I also use Protools for quality multi track mixes but do all my pre-edits in Twisted Wave. Hindenburg has a lot of wonderful features. > Like many others I use Audacity for Windows. > > > > From: Martin J. Huotari via grc > Reply: Martin J. Huotari > Date: October 5, 2016 at 8:23:50 AM > To: Frieda Werden > Cc: GRC list , sybil augustine > Subject: Re: [grc] Digital editing software for workstations? > > Audacity is our standard at KSCW-LP in Sun City West, AZ. However, because I haven?t had time to fully learn it, I have been successfully using Apple?s Garageband and a Snowball Microphone on my MacBook Pro for making PSAs and promos from home. It allows for editing multi tracks, pulling music and sound effects into the recording and then sharing it with iTunes in MP3 or M4A format. I then use MP3Gain to standardize the volume before putting it into our station?s library for use by Command Center software. I don?t have to use the equipment in our one room studio this way. I do have Audacity loaded on my laptop, and will eventually learn to use it so I have a common terminology and knowledge base to use when discussing with other producers and engineers. > > I end up using Garageband only because I was already familiar with it and I don?t have a learning curve for learning another system. > >> On Oct 4, 2016, at 8:59 PM, Frieda Werden via grc wrote: >> >> I have been using and teaching Audacity for quite a long time now. It is >> free - can't get cheaper than that - and open source. Back some years ago >> when the GRC was held in Santa Barbara, there was a tech meeting at which >> we discussed that Audacity was not ready for prime time; however, it has >> been vastly improved since then and is now quite stable and has a large >> basket of available effects. The station where I worked also kept Adobe >> Audition on hand, but mostly taught Audacity. The great advantage of >> teaching volunteers on a free and open source program is that they can use >> it at home or on their laptops. Also, it is a multi-platform program that >> can be used on PC (any OS, including Windows 10), Mac, and Linux. >> >> I got a "free" Sound Forge when I bought an expensive audio recorder a >> couple of years ago, and find that it has basically not changed since the >> free version that Norm Stockwell gave out at GRC in Madison in the '90s. >> It was given free to community radios by the manufacturer. It is still not >> multi-track. Occasionally I revert to it for a couple of features I like. >> >> On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 8:20 PM, sybil augustine via grc < >> grc at maillist.peak.org> wrote: >> >>> Hello, hive mind! >>> >>> From WORT's IT department, a question as we attempt to switch over to >>> updated, licensed software for use by volunteers: >>> >>> *What are your recommendations for the most reliable and affordable digital >>> editing software?* Some of our thoughts below. >>> >>> "For our other major potential expense, our audio production software, >>> we're looking at REAPER as a replacement for Adobe Audition and Sound >>> Forge, both of which are out of date and not legally licensed for all our >>> machines. It's a fast and modern digital audio workstation with full >>> support for VST, a range of digital control surfaces, unlimited tracks, and >>> professional and virtual sound card drivers. >>> >>> REAPER is available for $60 per license for nonprofits (as a concurrency >>> license, so we would need only license the number of machines we anticipate >>> would need simultaneous access). By comparison, the nonprofit license for >>> Audition, and the multitrack version of Sound Forge, are between two and >>> three times this price. >>> >>> We may also install Audacity as a basic audio editor. It also supports >>> multitrack projects and, while not as fast or capable as Reaper, is >>> entirely free and open source." >>> >>> Anything you can share would be much appreciated, and you can reply either >>> on- or off-list. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Sybil Augustine >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ?This will be our reply to violence: to make music more intensely, more >>> beautifully, more devotedly than ever before.? *? Leonard Bernstein* >>> >>> >>> [image: WORT 89.9FM] *Sybil Augustine* >>> *Music Director* >>> WORT 89.9 FM Community Radio wortfm.org >>> 118 S. 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Thanks! ~David Klann -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 213 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From jimedia at grandecom.net Wed Oct 5 18:46:35 2016 From: jimedia at grandecom.net (Jim Ellinger) Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2016 20:46:35 -0500 Subject: [grc] "First Informers" Radio, Post-Disaster In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3c51cf11-23ff-f977-718e-9f151473baf9@grandecom.net> *Distributed as a Public Service of Austin Airwaves *To our East Coast Friends, and those attending the 'Emergency Radio' Panel at this weekend's Grassroots Radio Conference in Hot Springs. _Source_: Communications Law [excerpted] New Post: Keep Calm and Broadcast On: Broadcasters as Hurricane First Responders Posted October 5, 2016 By Scott R. Flick While some debate endlessly which content best serves the public interest, there is universal agreement that the content broadcasters air during emergencies is vital to their communities. Whether it comes in the form of tracking a developing storm so the public can prepare, or disseminating evacuation orders and alerts, broadcasters continue to serve as the bedrock of the nation?s warning system in emergencies. As Hurricane Matthew approaches the East Coast, TV and radio stations are hurrying to make sure they are in position to warn and inform their audiences of new developments. Curiously, the growth of alternative information sources has only served to emphasize that in a true emergency, there is no substitute for local broadcasts. While the last decade has brought progress in making communications infrastructure more resilient in emergencies, cable and Internet service is often disrupted in disasters, and cell phone networks, where they don?t fail outright, become overwhelmed by increased usage during a disaster. That is why nearly a dozen states have laws on the books granting broadcast personnel *First Responder/First Informer *status. These laws allow broadcasters access to crisis areas, both for reporting on a disaster and maintaining station operations throughout. This includes granting priority to broadcasters for scarce fuel supplies (and emergency access for vehicles transporting fuel to stations). That fuel keeps stations? emergency generators, and the transmitters they power, running during emergencies. Unlike communications infrastructure that requires wired connections over a broad area, or numerous short-range towers and repeaters, broadcast stations just need an upright tower or tall building for their antenna, fuel for their generator, and access for their employees to be able to reach the station?s facilities. That resilience in extreme conditions is, however, only part of the reason local broadcast stations are critical in emergencies. Also important is the fact that broadcast receivers are ubiquitous and easy to power. Some estimates place *the number of radios in the U.S. at nearly 600,000,000,* almost double the population of the U.S. Many of those radios are powered by replaceable batteries. As a result, they don?t need access to the power grid for recharging like smartphones do. A box full of batteries will bring radio service for the duration of most any emergency. Speaking of smartphones, in part because of the importance of accessing local broadcast signals during emergencies, the *big 4 wireless providers have now activated the FM chip* in at least *some* of their smartphones. While there are a lot of radios out there, people aren?t generally walking around with a transistor radio in their hand at all times. Being able to access emergency broadcast information via the smartphone in your pocket ensures that even when the cell phone network has ceased to function, you still have immediate access to important local information. In fact, even where the cell phone system is still operating and not overwhelmed by traffic, there are two good reasons for utilizing a phone?s FM receiving capability. First, it consumes a fraction of the battery power that streaming data does, ensuring the longest battery life possible?an important factor if you don?t know where your next charge is coming from. Second, and taking a broader perspective, utilizing the FM capability is helpful to the community at large, as the more individuals that are obtaining information by radio, the less likely the wireless network will become overwhelmed, ensuring it is available for coordination of relief efforts and other vital functions. [TV section deleted] To help stations simplify that process when preparing for last year?s hurricane season, we drafted a detailed summary of the *FCC?s emergency information accessibility rules* titled Keep Calm and Broadcast On: A Guide for Television Stations on Airing Captions and Audible Crawls in an Emergency . Stations whose communities will be affected by Hurricane Matthew should review it, both as a refresher on what they will need to do in the next few days, and on how best to do it. While these rules add to a station?s challenges during an already challenging time, the FCC is doing its part as well. Earlier today, the FCC released a Public Notice reminding broadcasters, among others, that: The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) will be available to address emergency communications needs twenty-four hours a day throughout the weekend, especially relating to the effects that Hurricane Matthew may have on the Southeastern United States. The FCC reminds emergency communications providers, including broadcasters, cable service providers, wireless and wireline service providers, satellite service providers, emergency response managers and first responders, and others needing assistance to initiate, resume, or maintain communications operations during the weekend, to contact the *FCC Operations Center for assistance at 202-418-1122* or by e-mail at FCCOPCenter at fcc.gov . *Here?s hoping that the FCC?s phone doesn?t ring much in the coming days.* From wings at wings.org Thu Oct 6 20:57:49 2016 From: wings at wings.org (Frieda Werden) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2016 23:57:49 -0400 Subject: [grc] Fwd: [NCRA-Members] Film about Radio - Left of the Dial In-Reply-To: <57f5a2a3.1e5.765d.1416143013@mnsi.net> References: <57f5a2a3.1e5.765d.1416143013@mnsi.net> Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Date: Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 9:02 PM Subject: [NCRA-Members] Film about Radio - Left of the Dial To: ncra-members at ncra.ca About a month ago there was a question posed looking for films about radio. I recently found myself watching Left of the Dial - a documentary about the starting days of Air America Radio, its ups and downs, and some of the challenges it faced in its first year. I actually found myself fascinated by the documentary. Air America Radio Network for those of you who may not know, was started in 2004 as an attempt at a national US left-wing talk radio network. At one point they had affiliates in just about every major US city. As of 2010 the network was gone. This documentary was filmed during the first year in the lead up to the launch and then through some of the many challenges that were faced. While this was mainly a US documentary about a now defunct US radio network, I found it interesting from a number of standpoints. Both from watching the on-air staff - many of whom had not been on the air before - try and figure out how to put decent content on the air. There is also the behind-the-scenes management who seemed to have little clue (at least in my opinion) of how to actually run a radio network (for example, from what I can tell they had no sales staff to speak of, yet constantly had money problems, with the only reference in the documentary being a single low-revenue contract). While the people involved approached radio from a very different perspective then what Campus Community radio does, I did enjoy it enough to add to the list of radio films to check out. If I was ever putting together a radio-film marathon, this one would probably end up on the list. Lorne Tyndale -- Please follow the rules of this mailing list as posted on the NCRA website here: http://ncra.ca/members/email-lists --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NCRA Members" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ncra-members+unsubscribe at ncra.ca. To post to this group, send email to ncra-members at ncra.ca. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/ ncra.ca/d/msgid/ncra-members/57f5a2a3.1e5.765d.1416143013%40mnsi.net. -- Frieda Werden, Series Producer WINGS: Women's International News Gathering Service www.wings.org From mae at recnet.com Fri Oct 7 13:53:57 2016 From: mae at recnet.com (Michelle Bradley) Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2016 15:53:57 -0500 Subject: [grc] REC Part 15 transmitter at GRC Message-ID: <22cb8f4d-5476-6712-6fab-861b4e974603@recnet.com> For those in Hot Springs, REC has a legal C. Crane Part 15 FM transmitter on the air on 98.9 from the Springs Hotel. It will either run J1 Radio (Japanese pop) or REC-FM (70s/80s or conference coverage). Reception reports are welcome. eQSLs are available :) =m From david at ibisradio.org Sat Oct 8 08:48:13 2016 From: david at ibisradio.org (David Goodman) Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2016 11:48:13 -0400 Subject: [grc] Enjoy the conference and a speech now available Message-ID: Wish I could be there with you all in Hot Springs. Always next year. Also, I just posted this recording of Prof and author Robert Pollin talking about how the green economy can be a win win for the planet and workers. http://www.radio4all.net/index.php/program/88704 Please use some today... Cheers, dg -- I.B.I.S. Radio Jamaica Plain, Boston, MA *ibisradio.org * From bame at riverrock.org Tue Oct 11 12:44:42 2016 From: bame at riverrock.org (Paul Bame) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2016 15:44:42 -0400 Subject: [grc] GRC 2016 Closing Note re: Detroit Message-ID: Based on inquiry from Detroit, we agreed that Detroit WNUC-LP would be a great place for a future Grassroots Radio Conference, and that we might even be able to help build stuff or knowledge while at such a conference. When WNUC-LP is ready, we welcome their invitation on this list and connecting them to the historical memory and resources which exist. -Paul (pablito) Bame, Prometheus Radio Project From danny at wspj.org Tue Oct 11 15:09:20 2016 From: danny at wspj.org (Danny) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2016 18:09:20 -0400 Subject: [grc] GRC 2016 Closing Note re: Detroit In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001601d2240c$1e3a7240$5aaf56c0$@wspj.org> For many great reasons, Detroit would be an awesome place to host a future GRC! -----Original Message----- From: grc [mailto:grc-bounces at maillist.peak.org] On Behalf Of Paul Bame via grc Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 3:45 PM To: grc at maillist.peak.org Subject: [grc] GRC 2016 Closing Note re: Detroit Based on inquiry from Detroit, we agreed that Detroit WNUC-LP would be a great place for a future Grassroots Radio Conference, and that we might even be able to help build stuff or knowledge while at such a conference. When WNUC-LP is ready, we welcome their invitation on this list and connecting them to the historical memory and resources which exist. -Paul (pablito) Bame, Prometheus Radio Project _______________________________________________ grc mailing list grc at maillist.peak.org http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc From simon at kmud.org Tue Oct 11 15:41:18 2016 From: simon at kmud.org (Simon Frech) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2016 15:41:18 -0700 Subject: [grc] desk height Message-ID: Hi Lanny, Our desks are about 30? high. I would recommend getting a screen arm and keyboard/mouse tray. I did a search for computer screen arm keyboard tray on Amazon and got lots of results. They have come down in price a lot over the last few years. Simon From mae at recnet.com Tue Oct 11 17:34:21 2016 From: mae at recnet.com (Michelle Bradley) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2016 19:34:21 -0500 Subject: [grc] GRC 2016 Closing Note re: Detroit In-Reply-To: <001601d2240c$1e3a7240$5aaf56c0$@wspj.org> References: <001601d2240c$1e3a7240$5aaf56c0$@wspj.org> Message-ID: <1fd3edbd-8aeb-a616-fb26-36f02357bb99@recnet.com> As some you may have noticed, I did not raise my hand on that vote to extend to Detroit at this time. I want to explain my reasoning for this. - Unlike other recent GRCs, the proposed host station has not covered their construction permit yet and that there is the potential the station does not complete construction. This permittee is not eligible for any additional extensions after May 20, 2017. A part of the modern GRC experience is to have a functional station so that can be used as part of the overall program. - Out of the 889 granted construction permits that have not been covered for license, the proposed host station is the only one of these permittees that is under a special operating condition involving a directional antenna where the directional antenna is being used to decrease a contour (in this case, towards Canada). This permittee does not have automatic program test authority. Before this applicant can flip the switch, a site survey will need to be done by a surveyor which will need to be included with the license to cover. There may also be some additional coordination with Canada required before the license can be covered. Even though I would like to see a GRC centered around a barnraising, the best experience would be one that would involve a station that has automatic program test authority. - A station that is still constructing or just after post construction will be focused on a lot of functions associated with their station and may have not established themselves in the community yet. They may not be able to give enough focus on the planning. Those stations should have their rep(s) attend a conference and then bid for the following year. - As I have mentioned many times so far, Zac and Co. pulled through and did a fantastic job hosting us this year. Despite the great execution of the GRC, there were a couple of miss-steps (most notably, the raffle of the quilt) that may have been prevented if the hosts of the conference had attended a previous conference or two. We must keep traditions going and start some new traditions along the way. - As I also mentioned yesterday, the safety of attendees as well as assuring that attendees are welcome, not just by the station staff but by the host city. With that, any host city should be in a jurisdiction that has anti-discrimination laws at the state level or ordinances at the local level that specifically protects, at the minimum, sexual orientation _and_ gender identity in respect to housing and public accommodations. Jurisdictions that have laws that specifically discriminate (such as North Carolina and Mississippi) should be excluded as a matter of principle in order to assure full diversity. [note: The municipality of Detroit does have these protections.] If WNUC-LP finishes construction and files a license to cover this year, then I am more likely to raise my hand, but if another established station comes forward, especially one who has attended previous GRCs, I must put my support in that direction, especially if it is a full-power (our last two were LPFMs, we need to make sure full-powers still realize that they are still welcome...) Sorry folks, I am an analyst by trade... it's just in my blood. :) No matter who does it and where they do it, let's work towards an awesome GRC in 2017! =m On 10/11/2016 5:09 PM, Danny via grc wrote: > For many great reasons, Detroit would be an awesome place to host a future > GRC! > > -----Original Message----- > From: grc [mailto:grc-bounces at maillist.peak.org] On Behalf Of Paul Bame via > grc > Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 3:45 PM > To: grc at maillist.peak.org > Subject: [grc] GRC 2016 Closing Note re: Detroit > > > Based on inquiry from Detroit, we agreed that Detroit WNUC-LP would be a > great place for a future Grassroots Radio Conference, and that we might even > be able to help build stuff or knowledge while at such a conference. When > WNUC-LP is ready, we welcome their invitation on this list and connecting > them to the historical memory and resources which exist. > > -Paul (pablito) Bame, Prometheus Radio Project > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc From rossjoan at sbcglobal.net Tue Oct 11 17:44:54 2016 From: rossjoan at sbcglobal.net (Joan Ross) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2016 00:44:54 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [grc] GRC 2016 Closing Note re: Detroit In-Reply-To: <001601d2240c$1e3a7240$5aaf56c0$@wspj.org> References: <001601d2240c$1e3a7240$5aaf56c0$@wspj.org> Message-ID: <1868589841.2219346.1476233094742@mail.yahoo.com> Thanks Paul and to others expressing such a cheer for Detroit. ?We have been considering that. ?But certainly know that there are others that are looking for more of a vacation spot. ?Currently we are involved in some historic advocacy work. In just a few short weeks, we'll be free to discuss this possibility more with folks like yourself and the alumni of GRC. ?Don't count us OUT just yet.???Rev. Joan C. Ross Director, North End Woodward Community Coalition (NEWCC) Acting Station Manager, WNUC-lp 96.7 FM Detroit Community Radio7700 Second AvenueDetroit, Michigan 48202248-565-6572www.northendwoodward.org www.wnuc.org From: Danny via grc To: grc at maillist.peak.org Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 6:09 PM Subject: Re: [grc] GRC 2016 Closing Note re: Detroit For many great reasons, Detroit would be an awesome place to host a future GRC! -----Original Message----- From: grc [mailto:grc-bounces at maillist.peak.org] On Behalf Of Paul Bame via grc Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 3:45 PM To: grc at maillist.peak.org Subject: [grc] GRC 2016 Closing Note re: Detroit Based on inquiry from Detroit, we agreed that Detroit WNUC-LP would be a great place for a future Grassroots Radio Conference, and that we might even be able to help build stuff or knowledge while at such a conference. When WNUC-LP is ready, we welcome their invitation on this list and connecting them to the historical memory and resources which exist. ? ? -Paul (pablito) Bame, Prometheus Radio Project _______________________________________________ grc mailing list grc at maillist.peak.org http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc _______________________________________________ grc mailing list grc at maillist.peak.org http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc From rossjoan at sbcglobal.net Tue Oct 11 20:00:57 2016 From: rossjoan at sbcglobal.net (Joan Ross) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2016 03:00:57 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [grc] Fw: GRC 2016 Closing Note re: Detroit References: <1247356386.19104.1476241257652.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1247356386.19104.1476241257652@mail.yahoo.com> Yeah. But I just read the "analyst" account and to make this simple...I permanently and completely WITHDRAWING any plan, request or desire to host GRC on Detroit. Have enough on my plate than to worry about whether our city lives up to your kind of tradition. And we will get on air.? Some things just can't be hidden in analysis. Ridiculous. Stop trying to hide behind words like "safe". Just say what you mean.? Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 10:48 PM, Joan Ross wrote: Thanks Mike. Good to make your acquaintance. ?Sorry, but there are some other things at play. You certainly sound interesting in your passions. And we recently formed the first Community Land Trust ?here in Detroit as a strategy around land use. We can share information about land use planning. Also trying to get a Housing Trust Fund started. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 10:29 PM, Michael J. White wrote: No, this one just went to me.? That's why I responded to you individually, so as not to address the whole crowd.? I am NOT engaging in that conversation, simply because I'm not involved in managing any radio station, at present.?? Just a lowly content provider, at present.? Few other things on my plate. I'm a full time physician.? I am on the Board of Directors for the County Medical Society.? I am on my Township Land Use Planning Commission.? I am Co-Chairman of Wisconsin Green Party.? To name a few things. But, I feel a link to you and that station, if only because I lived not too far from there, many moons ago. warmly, Michael On 10/11/2016 08:43 PM, Joan Ross wrote: Yeah. But I just read the "analyst" account and to make this simple...I permanently and completely WITHDRAW any plan, request or desire to host GRC. And we will get on air.? Some things just can't be hidden in analysis. Ridiculous.? Hope this goes to everyone on the listserv. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 9:01 PM, Michael White wrote: Good to hear you are still there, Joan Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 11, 2016, at 7:44 PM, Joan Ross via grc wrote: > > Thanks Paul and to others expressing such a cheer for Detroit.? We have been considering that.? But certainly know that there are others that are looking for more of a vacation spot.? Currently we are involved in some historic advocacy work. In just a few short weeks, we'll be free to discuss this possibility more with folks like yourself and the alumni of GRC.? Don't count us OUT just yet.? Rev. Joan C. Ross > Director, North End Woodward Community Coalition (NEWCC) > Acting Station Manager, > WNUC-lp 96.7 FM Detroit Community Radio7700 Second AvenueDetroit, Michigan 48202248-565-6572www.northendwoodward.org > www.wnuc.org > > >? ? ? From: Danny via grc > To: grc at maillist.peak.org > Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 6:09 PM > Subject: Re: [grc] GRC 2016 Closing Note re: Detroit > > For many great reasons, Detroit would be an awesome place to host a future > GRC! > > -----Original Message----- > From: grc [mailto:grc-bounces at maillist.peak.org] On Behalf Of Paul Bame via > grc > Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 3:45 PM > To: grc at maillist.peak.org > Subject: [grc] GRC 2016 Closing Note re: Detroit > > > Based on inquiry from Detroit, we agreed that Detroit WNUC-LP would be a > great place for a future Grassroots Radio Conference, and that we might even > be able to help build stuff or knowledge while at such a conference. When > WNUC-LP is ready, we welcome their invitation on this list and connecting > them to the historical memory and resources which exist. > >? ? -Paul (pablito) Bame, Prometheus Radio Project > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > > > > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc From ursula at pacifica.org Wed Oct 12 16:48:01 2016 From: ursula at pacifica.org (Ursula Ruedenberg) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2016 18:48:01 -0500 Subject: [grc] GRC 2016 Closing Note re: Detroit In-Reply-To: <1868589841.2219346.1476233094742@mail.yahoo.com> References: <001601d2240c$1e3a7240$5aaf56c0$@wspj.org> <1868589841.2219346.1476233094742@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Joan, At the final wrap up meeting we discussed a GRC in Detroit after you left the call, (sorry about the timing - we did not know you had to leave and were assuming you were there for the whole meeting). The discussion was thoughtful, and measured and there was no question that there was a real pro-active desire to have a GRC in Detroit from many and agreement from the rest (except, as Michi has pointed out, from her). There was agreement to express was our desire that you post an intention to host, with the understanding that if you feel it is too soon in relation to the work you are doing to launch, postponing does not mean canceling future dates. Solidarity was expressed for WNUC getting on the air and interest in helping if possible. The only real lasting concern held by the room was timing - a general desire was expressed that the decision intention to host be publicly made by January or February, to allow planning, since short notice is prohibitive for small poor organizations, that we all are. The meeting was sizable so if you end up hearing and focusing on the one "nay" in the group, you will literally not be responding to everyone else in the room who were all sincerely was in favor of it. A lot of us see this as an opportunity personally, professionally, and for valuable development of the collective consciousness of the conference. There is no doubt that your team is already connected to the community in ways we all could learn from. I am not ignoring the fact that you have said you are withdrawing but still. In hopes you consider this and I personally hope things can stay open to possibility; I'd like to see all the good things happen. Ursula Ruedenberg One GRC attendee On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 7:44 PM, Joan Ross via grc wrote: > Thanks Paul and to others expressing such a cheer for Detroit. We have > been considering that. But certainly know that there are others that are > looking for more of a vacation spot. Currently we are involved in some > historic advocacy work. In just a few short weeks, we'll be free to discuss > this possibility more with folks like yourself and the alumni of GRC. > Don't count us OUT just yet. Rev. Joan C. Ross > Director, North End Woodward Community Coalition (NEWCC) > Acting Station Manager, > WNUC-lp 96.7 FM Detroit Community Radio7700 Second AvenueDetroit, Michigan > 48202248-565-6572www.northendwoodward.org > www.wnuc.org > > > From: Danny via grc > To: grc at maillist.peak.org > Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 6:09 PM > Subject: Re: [grc] GRC 2016 Closing Note re: Detroit > > For many great reasons, Detroit would be an awesome place to host a future > GRC! > > -----Original Message----- > From: grc [mailto:grc-bounces at maillist.peak.org] On Behalf Of Paul Bame > via > grc > Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 3:45 PM > To: grc at maillist.peak.org > Subject: [grc] GRC 2016 Closing Note re: Detroit > > > Based on inquiry from Detroit, we agreed that Detroit WNUC-LP would be a > great place for a future Grassroots Radio Conference, and that we might > even > be able to help build stuff or knowledge while at such a conference. When > WNUC-LP is ready, we welcome their invitation on this list and connecting > them to the historical memory and resources which exist. > > -Paul (pablito) Bame, Prometheus Radio Project > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > > > > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > -- Ursula Ruedenberg Pacifica Affiliate Network Manager 510-812-7989 pacificanetwork.org From mae at recnet.com Thu Oct 13 08:59:41 2016 From: mae at recnet.com (Michelle Bradley) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2016 11:59:41 -0400 Subject: [grc] GRC 2016 Closing Note re: Detroit In-Reply-To: References: <001601d2240c$1e3a7240$5aaf56c0$@wspj.org> <1868589841.2219346.1476233094742@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <88b63d10-991e-53a3-07d2-f0cc025a7653@recnet.com> Joan & Co.: I just want to clarify some things on my statement the other day. Over the past 10 or so years, all of the predictions and forecasts for LP-100 and the proposed LP-50 and LP-250 services showed that there was never a chance that Detroit would ever get any kind of LPFM station. There were some areas that would have qualified for LP-10 but not without a lot of incoming interference. These predictions were always based on the minimum spacing rules in ?73.807 of the FCC rules. However, through some creative engineering and waiver requests, the FCC did grant an LPFM to the Detroit area. With that said, this opportunity.. one that has defied the odds, study after study will come to an abrupt end on May 20, 2017, which is the deadline for WNUC-LP to be finished and on the air. There will be no more extensions. I did not support Detroit _for 2017_ for the following reasons: - First, planning an event like the GRC is a huge thing that does take a lot of time. Time that will be taken away from the construction, planning and programming of WNUC-LP. I don't want to see either the construction and launch of WNUC-LP or the presentation of the 2017 GRC get short-changed because resources are stretched between two very important projects. - Second, I feel that we need to look at bringing the GRC further west for one year. There are many LPFM and full-power NCE stations that are further west that have not been able to easily access the GRC due to the "easterly" locations of the most recent GRCs (Urbana, Palenville, Ames, Hot Springs). We need something west of the Rockies. I personally would like to see a GRC in Phoenix (or the neighboring city of Tempe). Phoenix is an easy destination, road trippable for many in So. Cal, NM, CO and NV and a major hub for both American and Southwest Airlines (hence competitive/low air fares). It also has a lot of reasonably-priced lodging along the light rail. Or, we can look at the northwest. But I do feel that the west coast is long overdue for the GRC to come back to them. As of today, 66% of the granted LPFM authorizations in Oregon and California are still construction permits 76% in Washington state These states are well above the national average of 49% I still need to look at these to see how many CP explorations we will have between now and then but regardless, those stations that do build and get going will definitely be able to benefit from the programs and presentations that GRC provides. With that said, assuming that WNUC-LP is successful in getting their station up and going (which I have faith that they will), I would be supportive of holding the *2018* GRC in Detroit. By this time, WNUC will be up and running and will be able to share many success stories of how the station has made an impact in their community. I just also want to clarify that the comments that I made about some minimum guidelines for city selection are just common criteria that some use to select host cities for conferences and conventions. Especially in the wake of the anti-LGBT legislation that has been passed in states like North Carolina, Minnesota and Indiana, I want to be assured that not only the host station (who would normally be very welcoming), but the host community is welcoming of LGBT individuals in their town and state. While we (LGBT) are in host communities, we contribute to the local economy. We stay in hotels and eat in restaurants which in turn generates sales taxes and keeps people working. Communities without a non-discrimination ordinance do not provide the appropriate protections that some members of our radio community will not be denied services and accommodations and states like North Carolina that has a culture of institutionalized anti-LGBT discrimination simply does not deserve our money until these vicious laws are repealed. As I specifically pointed out, Detroit does have appropriate anti-discrimination ordinances that protect sexual orientation and gender identity in public accommodations and housing so therefore, there is no issue with Detroit. So with that, it is my position (and keep in mind, I am only one person and not representing the entire collective) that we consider a west coast site for 2017 and Detroit for 2018. It is a win win for all. =m On 10/12/2016 7:48 PM, Ursula Ruedenberg via grc wrote: > Hi Joan, > > At the final wrap up meeting we discussed a GRC in Detroit after you left > the call, (sorry about the timing - we did not know you had to leave and > were assuming you were there for the whole meeting). The discussion was > thoughtful, and measured and there was no question that there was a real > pro-active desire to have a GRC in Detroit from many and agreement from the > rest (except, as Michi has pointed out, from her). > > There was agreement to express was our desire that you post an intention to > host, with the understanding that if you feel it is too soon in relation to > the work you are doing to launch, postponing does not mean canceling future > dates. > > Solidarity was expressed for WNUC getting on the air and interest in > helping if possible. The only real lasting concern held by the room was > timing - a general desire was expressed that the decision intention to host > be publicly made by January or February, to allow planning, since short > notice is prohibitive for small poor organizations, that we all are. > > The meeting was sizable so if you end up hearing and focusing on the one > "nay" in the group, you will literally not be responding to everyone else > in the room who were all sincerely was in favor of it. A lot of us see this > as an opportunity personally, professionally, and for valuable development > of the collective consciousness of the conference. There is no doubt that > your team is already connected to the community in ways we all could learn > from. > > I am not ignoring the fact that you have said you are withdrawing but > still. In hopes you consider this and I personally hope things can stay > open to possibility; I'd like to see all the good things happen. > > Ursula Ruedenberg > One GRC attendee > > > > > On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 7:44 PM, Joan Ross via grc > wrote: > >> Thanks Paul and to others expressing such a cheer for Detroit. We have >> been considering that. But certainly know that there are others that are >> looking for more of a vacation spot. Currently we are involved in some >> historic advocacy work. In just a few short weeks, we'll be free to discuss >> this possibility more with folks like yourself and the alumni of GRC. >> Don't count us OUT just yet. Rev. Joan C. Ross >> Director, North End Woodward Community Coalition (NEWCC) >> Acting Station Manager, >> WNUC-lp 96.7 FM Detroit Community Radio7700 Second AvenueDetroit, Michigan >> 48202248-565-6572www.northendwoodward.org >> www.wnuc.org >> >> >> From: Danny via grc >> To: grc at maillist.peak.org >> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 6:09 PM >> Subject: Re: [grc] GRC 2016 Closing Note re: Detroit >> >> For many great reasons, Detroit would be an awesome place to host a future >> GRC! >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: grc [mailto:grc-bounces at maillist.peak.org] On Behalf Of Paul Bame >> via >> grc >> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 3:45 PM >> To: grc at maillist.peak.org >> Subject: [grc] GRC 2016 Closing Note re: Detroit >> >> >> Based on inquiry from Detroit, we agreed that Detroit WNUC-LP would be a >> great place for a future Grassroots Radio Conference, and that we might >> even >> be able to help build stuff or knowledge while at such a conference. When >> WNUC-LP is ready, we welcome their invitation on this list and connecting >> them to the historical memory and resources which exist. >> >> -Paul (pablito) Bame, Prometheus Radio Project >> _______________________________________________ >> grc mailing list >> grc at maillist.peak.org >> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc >> >> _______________________________________________ >> grc mailing list >> grc at maillist.peak.org >> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> grc mailing list >> grc at maillist.peak.org >> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc >> > > From dklann at wdrt.org Thu Oct 13 10:27:32 2016 From: dklann at wdrt.org (David Klann) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2016 12:27:32 -0500 Subject: [grc] GRC2016 Followup: Automation Message-ID: <54ace36e-cd84-ef26-a962-2aa2b0e9a81f@wdrt.org> Fellow GRC Folk, In a response to a question on the NFCB list I posted the note below. I presented a "Survey of Radio Automation Systems" at the Grassroots Radio Conference over the weekend. For this, I compiled a spreadsheet-based comparison of some of the popular offerings. You can view, and even contribute to the list of products (columns), and the list of features (rows). I'd love it if this became a living, breathing, crowd-sourced review of automation systems. The piece that's missing is YOUR input and opinions of the products. Feel free to visit the Google doc at: http://preview.tinyurl.com/GRC-automation I'll maintain it for as long as I'm able. Thanks! ~David Klann Broadcast Tool & Die WDRT, 91.9fm, Viroqua, WI -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 213 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From juice at whidbey.com Thu Oct 13 11:05:37 2016 From: juice at whidbey.com (Tom Voorhees) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2016 11:05:37 -0700 Subject: [grc] GRC 2016 Closing Note re: Detroit In-Reply-To: <88b63d10-991e-53a3-07d2-f0cc025a7653@recnet.com> Message-ID: <3e807fa49e5a6f572eab959c21204b0ca4c09e02@webmail.whidbey.com> I just want to point out a few Detroit construction redness facts. I am not taking a position on the 2017 GRC location, Detroit Vs in the west. The one remaining gating item preventing the start of construction today is clearing away the zoning variance hurdle hole inadvertently fallen in to. There are three of us experienced radio construction engineers committed to getting WNUC on air very quickly. The directional antenna is on site ready to be mounted and the required licensed surveyor antenna pointing documentation has not been a problem on previous directional station builds. The building permit problem has been solved with a approved minor roof strengthening plan which could be implemented starting today. So construction could start the day after a zoning variance is approved by the city of Detroit. Tom. > Joan & Co.: > > I just want to clarify some things on my statement the other day. > > Over the past 10 or so years, all of the predictions and forecasts for > LP-100 and the proposed LP-50 and LP-250 services showed that there was > never a chance that Detroit would ever get any kind of LPFM station. > There were some areas that would have qualified for LP-10 but not > without a lot of incoming interference. These predictions were always > based on the minimum spacing rules in ?73.807 of the FCC rules. > > However, through some creative engineering and waiver requests, the FCC > did grant an LPFM to the Detroit area. > > With that said, this opportunity.. one that has defied the odds, study > after study will come to an abrupt end on May 20, 2017, which is the > deadline for WNUC-LP to be finished and on the air. There will be no > more extensions. > > I did not support Detroit _for 2017_ for the following reasons: > - First, planning an event like the GRC is a huge thing that does take a > lot of time. Time that will be taken away from the construction, > planning and programming of WNUC-LP. I don't want to see either the > construction and launch of WNUC-LP or the presentation of the 2017 GRC > get short-changed because resources are stretched between two very > important projects. > - Second, I feel that we need to look at bringing the GRC further west > for one year. There are many LPFM and full-power NCE stations that are > further west that have not been able to easily access the GRC due to the > "easterly" locations of the most recent GRCs (Urbana, Palenville, Ames, > Hot Springs). We need something west of the Rockies. I personally > would like to see a GRC in Phoenix (or the neighboring city of Tempe). > Phoenix is an easy destination, road trippable for many in So. Cal, NM, > CO and NV and a major hub for both American and Southwest Airlines > (hence competitive/low air fares). It also has a lot of > reasonably-priced lodging along the light rail. Or, we can look at the > northwest. But I do feel that the west coast is long overdue for the GRC > to come back to them. > > As of today, > 66% of the granted LPFM authorizations in Oregon and California are > still construction permits > 76% in Washington state > These states are well above the national average of 49% > I still need to look at these to see how many CP explorations we will > have between now and then but regardless, those stations that do build > and get going will definitely be able to benefit from the programs and > presentations that GRC provides. > > With that said, assuming that WNUC-LP is successful in getting their > station up and going (which I have faith that they will), I would be > supportive of holding the *2018* GRC in Detroit. By this time, WNUC will > be up and running and will be able to share many success stories of how > the station has made an impact in their community. > > I just also want to clarify that the comments that I made about some > minimum guidelines for city selection are just common criteria that some > use to select host cities for conferences and conventions. Especially > in the wake of the anti-LGBT legislation that has been passed in states > like North Carolina, Minnesota and Indiana, I want to be assured that > not only the host station (who would normally be very welcoming), but > the host community is welcoming of LGBT individuals in their town and > state. While we (LGBT) are in host communities, we contribute to the > local economy. We stay in hotels and eat in restaurants which in turn > generates sales taxes and keeps people working. Communities without a > non-discrimination ordinance do not provide the appropriate protections > that some members of our radio community will not be denied services and > accommodations and states like North Carolina that has a culture of > institutionalized anti-LGBT discrimination simply does not deserve our > money until these vicious laws are repealed. > > As I specifically pointed out, Detroit does have appropriate > anti-discrimination ordinances that protect sexual orientation and > gender identity in public accommodations and housing so therefore, there > is no issue with Detroit. > > So with that, it is my position (and keep in mind, I am only one person > and not representing the entire collective) that we consider a west > coast site for 2017 and Detroit for 2018. It is a win win for all. > > =m > > On 10/12/2016 7:48 PM, Ursula Ruedenberg via grc wrote: >> Hi Joan, >> >> At the final wrap up meeting we discussed a GRC in Detroit after you > left >> the call, (sorry about the timing - we did not know you had to leave > and >> were assuming you were there for the whole meeting). The discussion was >> thoughtful, and measured and there was no question that there was a > real >> pro-active desire to have a GRC in Detroit from many and agreement from > the >> rest (except, as Michi has pointed out, from her). >> >> There was agreement to express was our desire that you post an > intention to >> host, with the understanding that if you feel it is too soon in > relation to >> the work you are doing to launch, postponing does not mean canceling > future >> dates. >> >> Solidarity was expressed for WNUC getting on the air and interest in >> helping if possible. The only real lasting concern held by the room was >> timing - a general desire was expressed that the decision intention to > host >> be publicly made by January or February, to allow planning, since short >> notice is prohibitive for small poor organizations, that we all are. >> >> The meeting was sizable so if you end up hearing and focusing on the > one >> "nay" in the group, you will literally not be responding to everyone > else >> in the room who were all sincerely was in favor of it. A lot of us see > this >> as an opportunity personally, professionally, and for valuable > development >> of the collective consciousness of the conference. There is no doubt > that >> your team is already connected to the community in ways we all could > learn >> from. >> >> I am not ignoring the fact that you have said you are withdrawing but >> still. In hopes you consider this and I personally hope things can stay >> open to possibility; I'd like to see all the good things happen. >> >> Ursula Ruedenberg >> One GRC attendee >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 7:44 PM, Joan Ross via grc > >> wrote: >> >>> Thanks Paul and to others expressing such a cheer for Detroit. We have >>> been considering that. But certainly know that there are others that > are >>> looking for more of a vacation spot. Currently we are involved in some >>> historic advocacy work. In just a few short weeks, we'll be free to > discuss >>> this possibility more with folks like yourself and the alumni of GRC. >>> Don't count us OUT just yet. Rev. Joan C. Ross >>> Director, North End Woodward Community Coalition (NEWCC) >>> Acting Station Manager, >>> WNUC-lp 96.7 FM Detroit Community Radio7700 Second AvenueDetroit, > Michigan >>> 48202248-565-6572www.northendwoodward.org >>> www.wnuc.org >>> >>> >>> From: Danny via grc >>> To: grc at maillist.peak.org >>> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 6:09 PM >>> Subject: Re: [grc] GRC 2016 Closing Note re: Detroit >>> >>> For many great reasons, Detroit would be an awesome place to host a > future >>> GRC! >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: grc [mailto:grc-bounces at maillist.peak.org] On Behalf Of Paul > Bame >>> via >>> grc >>> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 3:45 PM >>> To: grc at maillist.peak.org >>> Subject: [grc] GRC 2016 Closing Note re: Detroit >>> >>> >>> Based on inquiry from Detroit, we agreed that Detroit WNUC-LP would be > a >>> great place for a future Grassroots Radio Conference, and that we > might >>> even >>> be able to help build stuff or knowledge while at such a conference. > When >>> WNUC-LP is ready, we welcome their invitation on this list and > connecting >>> them to the historical memory and resources which exist. >>> >>> -Paul (pablito) Bame, Prometheus Radio Project >>> _______________________________________________ >>> grc mailing list >>> grc at maillist.peak.org >>> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> grc mailing list >>> grc at maillist.peak.org >>> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> grc mailing list >>> grc at maillist.peak.org >>> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc >>> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc From eva at spinitron.com Thu Oct 13 11:07:09 2016 From: eva at spinitron.com (Eva Papp) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2016 14:07:09 -0400 Subject: [grc] GRC2016 Followup: Automation In-Reply-To: <54ace36e-cd84-ef26-a962-2aa2b0e9a81f@wdrt.org> References: <54ace36e-cd84-ef26-a962-2aa2b0e9a81f@wdrt.org> Message-ID: This is great David! Thanks for compiling and sharing it! Best, -Eva --- Eva Papp eva at spinitron.com 617-233-3115 http://www.spinitron.com On 10/13/16, 1:27 PM, "grc on behalf of David Klann via grc" wrote: >Fellow GRC Folk, > >In a response to a question on the NFCB list I posted the note below. > >I presented a "Survey of Radio Automation Systems" at the Grassroots >Radio Conference over the weekend. For this, I compiled a >spreadsheet-based comparison of some of the popular offerings. You can >view, and even contribute to the list of products (columns), and the >list of features (rows). > >I'd love it if this became a living, breathing, crowd-sourced review of >automation systems. The piece that's missing is YOUR input and opinions >of the products. > >Feel free to visit the Google doc at: > >http://preview.tinyurl.com/GRC-automation > >I'll maintain it for as long as I'm able. > >Thanks! > > ~David Klann > Broadcast Tool & Die > WDRT, 91.9fm, Viroqua, WI > >_______________________________________________ >grc mailing list >grc at maillist.peak.org >http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc From rossjoan at sbcglobal.net Thu Oct 13 11:17:49 2016 From: rossjoan at sbcglobal.net (Joan Ross) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2016 18:17:49 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [grc] GRC 2016 Closing Note re: Detroit In-Reply-To: <3e807fa49e5a6f572eab959c21204b0ca4c09e02@webmail.whidbey.com> References: <3e807fa49e5a6f572eab959c21204b0ca4c09e02@webmail.whidbey.com> Message-ID: <1009714403.373425.1476382669098@mail.yahoo.com> Thanks Tom, another one of my heroes. But I don't think we need to answer or comment on any questions about WNUC. We read the document and know what's ahead.? Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 2:05 PM, Tom Voorhees via grc wrote: I just want to point out a few Detroit construction redness facts. I am not taking a position on the 2017 GRC location, Detroit Vs in the west. The one remaining gating item preventing the start of construction today is clearing away the zoning variance hurdle hole inadvertently fallen in to. There are three of us experienced radio construction engineers committed to getting WNUC on air very quickly. The directional antenna is on site ready to be mounted and the required licensed surveyor antenna pointing documentation has not been a problem on previous directional station builds. The building permit problem has been solved with a approved minor roof strengthening plan which could be implemented starting today. So construction could start the day after a zoning variance is approved by the city of Detroit. Tom. > Joan & Co.: > > I just want to clarify some things on my statement the other day. > > Over the past 10 or so years, all of the predictions and forecasts for > LP-100 and the proposed LP-50 and LP-250 services showed that there was > never a chance that Detroit would ever get any kind of LPFM station. > There were some areas that would have qualified for LP-10 but not > without a lot of incoming interference. These predictions were always > based on the minimum spacing rules in ?73.807 of the FCC rules. > > However, through some creative engineering and waiver requests, the FCC > did grant an LPFM to the Detroit area. > > With that said, this opportunity.. one that has defied the odds, study > after study will come to an abrupt end on May 20, 2017, which is the > deadline for WNUC-LP to be finished and on the air. There will be no > more extensions. > > I did not support Detroit _for 2017_ for the following reasons: > - First, planning an event like the GRC is a huge thing that does take a > lot of time. Time that will be taken away from the construction, > planning and programming of WNUC-LP. I don't want to see either the > construction and launch of WNUC-LP or the presentation of the 2017 GRC > get short-changed because resources are stretched between two very > important projects. > - Second, I feel that we need to look at bringing the GRC further west > for one year. There are many LPFM and full-power NCE stations that are > further west that have not been able to easily access the GRC due to the > "easterly" locations of the most recent GRCs (Urbana, Palenville, Ames, > Hot Springs). We need something west of the Rockies. I personally > would like to see a GRC in Phoenix (or the neighboring city of Tempe). > Phoenix is an easy destination, road trippable for many in So. Cal, NM, > CO and NV and a major hub for both American and Southwest Airlines > (hence competitive/low air fares). It also has a lot of > reasonably-priced lodging along the light rail. Or, we can look at the > northwest. But I do feel that the west coast is long overdue for the GRC > to come back to them. > > As of today, > 66% of the granted LPFM authorizations in Oregon and California are > still construction permits > 76% in Washington state > These states are well above the national average of 49% > I still need to look at these to see how many CP explorations we will > have between now and then but regardless, those stations that do build > and get going will definitely be able to benefit from the programs and > presentations that GRC provides. > > With that said, assuming that WNUC-LP is successful in getting their > station up and going (which I have faith that they will), I would be > supportive of holding the *2018* GRC in Detroit. By this time, WNUC will > be up and running and will be able to share many success stories of how > the station has made an impact in their community. > > I just also want to clarify that the comments that I made about some > minimum guidelines for city selection are just common criteria that some > use to select host cities for conferences and conventions. Especially > in the wake of the anti-LGBT legislation that has been passed in states > like North Carolina, Minnesota and Indiana, I want to be assured that > not only the host station (who would normally be very welcoming), but > the host community is welcoming of LGBT individuals in their town and > state. While we (LGBT) are in host communities, we contribute to the > local economy. We stay in hotels and eat in restaurants which in turn > generates sales taxes and keeps people working. Communities without a > non-discrimination ordinance do not provide the appropriate protections > that some members of our radio community will not be denied services and > accommodations and states like North Carolina that has a culture of > institutionalized anti-LGBT discrimination simply does not deserve our > money until these vicious laws are repealed. > > As I specifically pointed out, Detroit does have appropriate > anti-discrimination ordinances that protect sexual orientation and > gender identity in public accommodations and housing so therefore, there > is no issue with Detroit. > > So with that, it is my position (and keep in mind, I am only one person > and not representing the entire collective) that we consider a west > coast site for 2017 and Detroit for 2018. It is a win win for all. > > =m > > On 10/12/2016 7:48 PM, Ursula Ruedenberg via grc wrote: >> Hi Joan, >> >> At the final wrap up meeting we discussed a GRC in Detroit after you > left >> the call, (sorry about the timing - we did not know you had to leave > and >> were assuming you were there for the whole meeting). The discussion was >> thoughtful, and measured and there was no question that there was a > real >> pro-active desire to have a GRC in Detroit from many and agreement from > the >> rest (except, as Michi has pointed out, from her). >> >> There was agreement to express was our desire that you post an > intention to >> host, with the understanding that if you feel it is too soon in > relation to >> the work you are doing to launch, postponing does not mean canceling > future >> dates. >> >> Solidarity was expressed for WNUC getting on the air and interest in >> helping if possible. The only real lasting concern held by the room was >> timing - a general desire was expressed that the decision intention to > host >> be publicly made by January or February, to allow planning, since short >> notice is prohibitive for small poor organizations, that we all are. >> >> The meeting was sizable so if you end up hearing and focusing on the > one >> "nay" in the group, you will literally not be responding to everyone > else >> in the room who were all sincerely was in favor of it. A lot of us see > this >> as an opportunity personally, professionally, and for valuable > development >> of the collective consciousness of the conference. There is no doubt > that >> your team is already connected to the community in ways we all could > learn >> from. >> >> I am not ignoring the fact that you have said you are withdrawing but >> still. In hopes you consider this and I personally hope things can stay >> open to possibility; I'd like to see all the good things happen. >> >> Ursula Ruedenberg >> One GRC attendee >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 7:44 PM, Joan Ross via grc > >> wrote: >> >>> Thanks Paul and to others expressing such a cheer for Detroit. We have >>> been considering that. But certainly know that there are others that > are >>> looking for more of a vacation spot. Currently we are involved in some >>> historic advocacy work. In just a few short weeks, we'll be free to > discuss >>> this possibility more with folks like yourself and the alumni of GRC. >>> Don't count us OUT just yet. Rev. Joan C. Ross >>> Director, North End Woodward Community Coalition (NEWCC) >>> Acting Station Manager, >>> WNUC-lp 96.7 FM Detroit Community Radio7700 Second AvenueDetroit, > Michigan >>> 48202248-565-6572www.northendwoodward.org >>> www.wnuc.org >>> >>> >>> From: Danny via grc >>> To: grc at maillist.peak.org >>> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 6:09 PM >>> Subject: Re: [grc] GRC 2016 Closing Note re: Detroit >>> >>> For many great reasons, Detroit would be an awesome place to host a > future >>> GRC! >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: grc [mailto:grc-bounces at maillist.peak.org] On Behalf Of Paul > Bame >>> via >>> grc >>> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 3:45 PM >>> To: grc at maillist.peak.org >>> Subject: [grc] GRC 2016 Closing Note re: Detroit >>> >>> >>> Based on inquiry from Detroit, we agreed that Detroit WNUC-LP would be > a >>> great place for a future Grassroots Radio Conference, and that we > might >>> even >>> be able to help build stuff or knowledge while at such a conference. > When >>> WNUC-LP is ready, we welcome their invitation on this list and > connecting >>> them to the historical memory and resources which exist. >>> >>> -Paul (pablito) Bame, Prometheus Radio Project >>> _______________________________________________ >>> grc mailing list >>> grc at maillist.peak.org >>> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> grc mailing list >>> grc at maillist.peak.org >>> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> grc mailing list >>> grc at maillist.peak.org >>> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc >>> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc _______________________________________________ grc mailing list grc at maillist.peak.org http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc From rossjoan at sbcglobal.net Thu Oct 13 11:17:49 2016 From: rossjoan at sbcglobal.net (Joan Ross) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2016 18:17:49 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [grc] GRC 2016 Closing Note re: Detroit In-Reply-To: <3e807fa49e5a6f572eab959c21204b0ca4c09e02@webmail.whidbey.com> References: <3e807fa49e5a6f572eab959c21204b0ca4c09e02@webmail.whidbey.com> Message-ID: <1009714403.373425.1476382669098@mail.yahoo.com> Thanks Tom, another one of my heroes. But I don't think we need to answer or comment on any questions about WNUC. We read the document and know what's ahead.? Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 2:05 PM, Tom Voorhees via grc wrote: I just want to point out a few Detroit construction redness facts. I am not taking a position on the 2017 GRC location, Detroit Vs in the west. The one remaining gating item preventing the start of construction today is clearing away the zoning variance hurdle hole inadvertently fallen in to. There are three of us experienced radio construction engineers committed to getting WNUC on air very quickly. The directional antenna is on site ready to be mounted and the required licensed surveyor antenna pointing documentation has not been a problem on previous directional station builds. The building permit problem has been solved with a approved minor roof strengthening plan which could be implemented starting today. So construction could start the day after a zoning variance is approved by the city of Detroit. Tom. > Joan & Co.: > > I just want to clarify some things on my statement the other day. > > Over the past 10 or so years, all of the predictions and forecasts for > LP-100 and the proposed LP-50 and LP-250 services showed that there was > never a chance that Detroit would ever get any kind of LPFM station. > There were some areas that would have qualified for LP-10 but not > without a lot of incoming interference. These predictions were always > based on the minimum spacing rules in ?73.807 of the FCC rules. > > However, through some creative engineering and waiver requests, the FCC > did grant an LPFM to the Detroit area. > > With that said, this opportunity.. one that has defied the odds, study > after study will come to an abrupt end on May 20, 2017, which is the > deadline for WNUC-LP to be finished and on the air. There will be no > more extensions. > > I did not support Detroit _for 2017_ for the following reasons: > - First, planning an event like the GRC is a huge thing that does take a > lot of time. Time that will be taken away from the construction, > planning and programming of WNUC-LP. I don't want to see either the > construction and launch of WNUC-LP or the presentation of the 2017 GRC > get short-changed because resources are stretched between two very > important projects. > - Second, I feel that we need to look at bringing the GRC further west > for one year. There are many LPFM and full-power NCE stations that are > further west that have not been able to easily access the GRC due to the > "easterly" locations of the most recent GRCs (Urbana, Palenville, Ames, > Hot Springs). We need something west of the Rockies. I personally > would like to see a GRC in Phoenix (or the neighboring city of Tempe). > Phoenix is an easy destination, road trippable for many in So. Cal, NM, > CO and NV and a major hub for both American and Southwest Airlines > (hence competitive/low air fares). It also has a lot of > reasonably-priced lodging along the light rail. Or, we can look at the > northwest. But I do feel that the west coast is long overdue for the GRC > to come back to them. > > As of today, > 66% of the granted LPFM authorizations in Oregon and California are > still construction permits > 76% in Washington state > These states are well above the national average of 49% > I still need to look at these to see how many CP explorations we will > have between now and then but regardless, those stations that do build > and get going will definitely be able to benefit from the programs and > presentations that GRC provides. > > With that said, assuming that WNUC-LP is successful in getting their > station up and going (which I have faith that they will), I would be > supportive of holding the *2018* GRC in Detroit. By this time, WNUC will > be up and running and will be able to share many success stories of how > the station has made an impact in their community. > > I just also want to clarify that the comments that I made about some > minimum guidelines for city selection are just common criteria that some > use to select host cities for conferences and conventions. Especially > in the wake of the anti-LGBT legislation that has been passed in states > like North Carolina, Minnesota and Indiana, I want to be assured that > not only the host station (who would normally be very welcoming), but > the host community is welcoming of LGBT individuals in their town and > state. While we (LGBT) are in host communities, we contribute to the > local economy. We stay in hotels and eat in restaurants which in turn > generates sales taxes and keeps people working. Communities without a > non-discrimination ordinance do not provide the appropriate protections > that some members of our radio community will not be denied services and > accommodations and states like North Carolina that has a culture of > institutionalized anti-LGBT discrimination simply does not deserve our > money until these vicious laws are repealed. > > As I specifically pointed out, Detroit does have appropriate > anti-discrimination ordinances that protect sexual orientation and > gender identity in public accommodations and housing so therefore, there > is no issue with Detroit. > > So with that, it is my position (and keep in mind, I am only one person > and not representing the entire collective) that we consider a west > coast site for 2017 and Detroit for 2018. It is a win win for all. > > =m > > On 10/12/2016 7:48 PM, Ursula Ruedenberg via grc wrote: >> Hi Joan, >> >> At the final wrap up meeting we discussed a GRC in Detroit after you > left >> the call, (sorry about the timing - we did not know you had to leave > and >> were assuming you were there for the whole meeting). The discussion was >> thoughtful, and measured and there was no question that there was a > real >> pro-active desire to have a GRC in Detroit from many and agreement from > the >> rest (except, as Michi has pointed out, from her). >> >> There was agreement to express was our desire that you post an > intention to >> host, with the understanding that if you feel it is too soon in > relation to >> the work you are doing to launch, postponing does not mean canceling > future >> dates. >> >> Solidarity was expressed for WNUC getting on the air and interest in >> helping if possible. The only real lasting concern held by the room was >> timing - a general desire was expressed that the decision intention to > host >> be publicly made by January or February, to allow planning, since short >> notice is prohibitive for small poor organizations, that we all are. >> >> The meeting was sizable so if you end up hearing and focusing on the > one >> "nay" in the group, you will literally not be responding to everyone > else >> in the room who were all sincerely was in favor of it. A lot of us see > this >> as an opportunity personally, professionally, and for valuable > development >> of the collective consciousness of the conference. There is no doubt > that >> your team is already connected to the community in ways we all could > learn >> from. >> >> I am not ignoring the fact that you have said you are withdrawing but >> still. In hopes you consider this and I personally hope things can stay >> open to possibility; I'd like to see all the good things happen. >> >> Ursula Ruedenberg >> One GRC attendee >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 7:44 PM, Joan Ross via grc > >> wrote: >> >>> Thanks Paul and to others expressing such a cheer for Detroit. We have >>> been considering that. But certainly know that there are others that > are >>> looking for more of a vacation spot. Currently we are involved in some >>> historic advocacy work. In just a few short weeks, we'll be free to > discuss >>> this possibility more with folks like yourself and the alumni of GRC. >>> Don't count us OUT just yet. Rev. Joan C. Ross >>> Director, North End Woodward Community Coalition (NEWCC) >>> Acting Station Manager, >>> WNUC-lp 96.7 FM Detroit Community Radio7700 Second AvenueDetroit, > Michigan >>> 48202248-565-6572www.northendwoodward.org >>> www.wnuc.org >>> >>> >>> From: Danny via grc >>> To: grc at maillist.peak.org >>> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 6:09 PM >>> Subject: Re: [grc] GRC 2016 Closing Note re: Detroit >>> >>> For many great reasons, Detroit would be an awesome place to host a > future >>> GRC! >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: grc [mailto:grc-bounces at maillist.peak.org] On Behalf Of Paul > Bame >>> via >>> grc >>> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 3:45 PM >>> To: grc at maillist.peak.org >>> Subject: [grc] GRC 2016 Closing Note re: Detroit >>> >>> >>> Based on inquiry from Detroit, we agreed that Detroit WNUC-LP would be > a >>> great place for a future Grassroots Radio Conference, and that we > might >>> even >>> be able to help build stuff or knowledge while at such a conference. > When >>> WNUC-LP is ready, we welcome their invitation on this list and > connecting >>> them to the historical memory and resources which exist. >>> >>> -Paul (pablito) Bame, Prometheus Radio Project >>> _______________________________________________ >>> grc mailing list >>> grc at maillist.peak.org >>> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> grc mailing list >>> grc at maillist.peak.org >>> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> grc mailing list >>> grc at maillist.peak.org >>> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc >>> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc _______________________________________________ grc mailing list grc at maillist.peak.org http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc From settled at gmail.com Sat Oct 15 09:39:47 2016 From: settled at gmail.com (Brian Shiratsuki) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2016 09:39:47 -0700 Subject: [grc] =?utf-8?q?NYT=3A_FM_Stations_That_Don=E2=80=99t_Reach_Far?= =?utf-8?q?=2C_but_Reach_Deep?= Message-ID: By BRETT SOKOLOCT. 14, 2016 They would seem to make odd broadcasting bedfellows: the Roman Catholic Diocese of Brooklyn and the Global Service Center for Quitting Chinese Communist Party. Yet the two organizations are partnering on the airwaves, with two radio stations starting next month at 105.5 FM in Queens. Weekday mornings and early afternoons, the diocese?s WDMB will air daily Masses, rosary prayers and call-in shows. At 2 p.m., the Global Service?s WQEQ will take the microphone ?to disseminate info about the Chinese Communist Party?s crimes against humanity? ? as it declares in its mission statement. The common thread? Both stations will broadcast solely in Mandarin, focusing on the growing Chinese community in Queens... From david at ibisradio.org Sun Oct 16 10:47:50 2016 From: david at ibisradio.org (David Goodman) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2016 13:47:50 -0400 Subject: [grc] Phyllis Bennis on Syria and US foreign Policy Message-ID: http://www.radio4all.net/index.php/program/88826 Cheers, dg -- I.B.I.S. Radio Jamaica Plain, Boston, MA From anniegarrison at gmail.com Sun Oct 16 18:53:18 2016 From: anniegarrison at gmail.com (Ann Garrison) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2016 18:53:18 -0700 Subject: [grc] "Report-back" from the GRC 2016 Message-ID: My KPFA friends and allies on a yahoo list called the "kpfa-watch list" asked me for a report back from the GRC, so I shared these first thoughts, promised more later. Since it went over well with that list, Tom Vorhees asked me to share it here as well. I'm afraid I missed my Sunday deadline for getting a text version of my workshop remarks up on the list or the new website, but I will work on that this week. *"Ann Garrison >* *2:56 PM (20 hours ago)* *to kpfa-watch* *Thanks again to everyone who chipped in to get me to the Grassroots Radio Conference 2016 in Hot Springs, Arkansas. I just promised to get an edited, text version of my remarks up on the GRC 2016 website by Sunday since right now I'm already working on tomorrow's KPFA News. One of the first things I said was that Anthony taught me most everything I know about radio news writing and that at one point he banned commas in my anchor's intros because they tended to be paragraph long, clause laden, sentences. It's hard to hear that many meanings jammed into one sentence and Saturday Anchor David Rosenberg said that he was running out of breath trying to read them. Every once in awhile I look back at the intros I was writing in the beginning and laugh or say, "Hey, Anthony, look at this one!" As I told the workshop, radio news writing is an exacting discipline that made me a much better writer. * *I gave one of the only content focussed workshops at this year's GRC. which was heavy on technology and LPFM because the FCC licensing schedules have been such that there are many LPFM stations just coming online now and/or trying to complete the requisite steps. There were also a couple of governance workshops . . . yeah sure . . . in which all the problems we're all so familiar with were described. I have considered asking Betty McArdle, who gave those workshops, to become an affiliate rep to the Pacifica National Board from KBOO-Portland, if she qualifies. She knows what she'd be getting into and knows it doesn't work very well, so she wouldn't be coming in starry eyed. She also understands how much is at stake.* *One other takeaway is how many stations have been left high and dry without a national/international newscast since the demise of FSRN, which those who failed to get Pacifica's audits done should take responsibility for. They cost Pacifica the Corporation for Public Broadcasting (CPB) funds that were FSRN's sole support. Many think that FSRN should also have tried to develop outside sources of funding or marketed its newscast outside Pacifica, but the loss of CPB funds was a decisive blow.* *Ursula Rutenberg and I talked about that some and agreed to talk more. While we were there, she also contacted the White Earth Reservation to see if they might produce a daily or weekly Dakota Access Pipeline Report that other stations could play. It turns out that the pipeline route also goes underneath the Missouri River and right past Ursula's hometown, and that of her station, KHOI-Ames, Iowa. You've probably seen the Democracy Now reports on resistance in Iowa. She said that, for the first time, she's actually imagining that they might be able to stop it. Ursula also said that Iowa's family farms are all gone and they're now "occupied" - surrounded by Monsanto, Dupont, etc. There was a "sustainable farming" department at Iowa State, the university in Ames, but it was cut back to almost nothing because it posed a threat to industrial agriculture. More later.* For real, Ann Garrison Independent Journalist, SKYPE: Ann Garrison, Oakland 415-503-7487 From anniegarrison at gmail.com Mon Oct 17 14:25:50 2016 From: anniegarrison at gmail.com (Ann Garrison) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2016 14:25:50 -0700 Subject: [grc] Participation in the list Message-ID: I thought I was subscribed but I couldn't seem to figure out how to access the list on the Web. So I did a search and got this https://www.google.com/search?q=grc%40maillist.peak.org&oq=grc%40maillist.peak.org&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i58.535j0j1&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8, then signed up to get a daily digest. Is there anything else I need to do? For real, Ann Garrison Independent Journalist, SKYPE: Ann Garrison, Oakland 415-503-7487 From ursula at pacifica.org Tue Oct 18 10:28:04 2016 From: ursula at pacifica.org (Ursula Ruedenberg) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2016 12:28:04 -0500 Subject: [grc] Looking for Audio segments for Sprouts: Anthem Protests Message-ID: We are making a Sprouts about Anthem protests. We need another segment. Do you have or know about an interview at your station with athletes, cheerleaders, or band people or any other sports participants (coaches??) who are doing, thinking about, or objecting to Anthem Protests? Contact us soon, please, our production deadline is tonight. Thank you, -- Ursula Ruedenberg Pacifica Affiliate Network Manager 510-812-7989 pacificanetwork.org From anniegarrison at gmail.com Tue Oct 18 13:14:01 2016 From: anniegarrison at gmail.com (Ann Garrison) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2016 13:14:01 -0700 Subject: [grc] Looking for Audio segments for Sprouts: Anthem Protests In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I haven't been able to find anything for you but I'll tell you a funny detail. Colin Kaepernick is a vegan. There've been a lot of remarks . . .What kinda football brute goes vegan? etc. And complaints that he's lost 15 pounds, but the coach says he lost 15 pounds because he couldn't lift weights while recovering from his three surgeries, shoulder, knee and thumb, last year. For real, Ann Garrison Independent Journalist, SKYPE: Ann Garrison, Oakland 415-503-7487 On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 10:28 AM, Ursula Ruedenberg via grc < grc at maillist.peak.org> wrote: > We are making a Sprouts about Anthem protests. We need another segment. > > Do you have or know about an interview at your station with athletes, > cheerleaders, or band people or any other sports participants (coaches??) > who are doing, thinking about, or objecting to Anthem Protests? > > Contact us soon, please, our production deadline is tonight. > > Thank you, > -- > Ursula Ruedenberg > Pacifica Affiliate Network Manager > 510-812-7989 > pacificanetwork.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > From bame at riverrock.org Fri Oct 21 15:24:33 2016 From: bame at riverrock.org (Paul Bame) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2016 18:24:33 -0400 Subject: [grc] Public-Domain EAS station cost? Message-ID: <59c6963ad5ebf392a167ea854a2af8e8@riverrock.org> I believe Al Davis pitched this idea a while back, and I have some questions as I began to research it myself. Specifically I'm wondering how much it would cost stations? My working hypothesis is that a station which constructed its own EAS unit (from open-source plans) could apply for a waiver under 47 CFR 11.34(e) which would cost them no money according to 1.1116(c). The waiver would logically be developed by the open-source developers and provided as part of the package. Does this seem feasible, or even correct? --- 47 CFR 11.34(e) Waiver requests of the Certification requirements for EAS Encoders or EAS Decoders which are constructed for use by an EAS Participant, but are not offered for sale will be considered on an individual basis in accordance with part 1, subpart G, of this chapter. Subpart G is all about fees for applying for FCC certification and so forth, however 1.1116(c) then exempts "Applicants, permittees or licensees of noncommercial educational (NCE) broadcast stations in the FM or TV services, as well as AM applicants, permittees or licensees operating in accordance with ?73.503 of this chapter." -p P.S. This does not provide an obvious way to $upport the developers. Perhaps a "suggested donation" might work, but that seems like it might be crossing the line with respect to the intent of 11.34(e). P.P.S. The linux minimodem command handles reception and generation of the EAS data bursts. Sox(1) produces the attention tone. A Raspberry Pi or other low-cost Linux computer plus a couple of cheap USB audio dongles, controlling a light and a switch and a web interface, seems like it should be plenty to pull this off. The requirements in 47 CFR 11 would require a bit of thought to produce something elegant, usable, yet compliant. Another way to slice it is to write it as an android app to be used on discarded cell phones. From anniegarrison at gmail.com Fri Oct 21 15:44:00 2016 From: anniegarrison at gmail.com (Ann Garrison) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2016 15:44:00 -0700 Subject: [grc] This lst Message-ID: After the GRC, I sent my report back to this list but I never received it as a list mailing. Does that mean that I will not receive posts if I am the author? I also signed up for daily digests, but I'm guessing there hasn't been enough traffic to generate them. For real, Ann Garrison Independent Journalist, SKYPE: Ann Garrison, Oakland 415-503-7487 From supersat at uwave.fm Fri Oct 21 15:45:07 2016 From: supersat at uwave.fm (Karl Koscher) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2016 15:45:07 -0700 Subject: [grc] [Stubblefield] Public-Domain EAS station cost? Message-ID: We have thought about doing this. We're only streaming on the web right now, but we have constructed a EAS system that seems to work well and is integrated into our audio chain. We have been successfully relaying alerts and tests for about two years. The source code is available at https://github.com/UWave/uwave-eas, but would probably take some tweaking to work for other stations. In particular, almost all of our audio chain is in software (with JACK) and thus it simply shuffles around JACK connections to play an alert. The big thing missing right now is the ability to relay alerts from CAP feeds. For whatever reason, DHS requires a signed MOU to get access to the IPAWS feed. We have not pursued this (or a waiver from the FCC to use our own EAS system) because there's still some uncertainty about us getting on the air. On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 3:36 PM, Karl Koscher wrote: > We have thought about doing this. We're only streaming on the web right > now, but we have constructed a EAS system that seems to work well and is > integrated into our audio chain. We have been successfully relaying alerts > and tests for about two years. The source code is available at > https://github.com/UWave/uwave-eas, but would probably take some tweaking > to work for other stations. In particular, almost all of our audio chain is > in software (with JACK) and thus it simply shuffles around JACK connections > to play an alert. > > The big thing missing right now is the ability to relay alerts from CAP > feeds. For whatever reason, DHS requires a signed MOU to get access to the > IPAWS feed. We have not pursued this (or a waiver from the FCC to use our > own EAS system) because there's still some uncertainty about us getting on > the air. > > On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 3:24 PM, Paul Bame wrote: > >> I believe Al Davis pitched this idea a while back, and I have some >> questions as I began to research it myself. >> >> Specifically I'm wondering how much it would cost stations? My working >> hypothesis is that a station which constructed its own EAS unit (from >> open-source plans) could apply for a waiver under 47 CFR 11.34(e) which >> would cost them no money according to 1.1116(c). The waiver would >> logically be developed by the open-source developers and provided as >> part of the package. >> >> Does this seem feasible, or even correct? >> >> --- >> >> 47 CFR 11.34(e) Waiver requests of the Certification requirements >> for EAS Encoders or EAS Decoders which are constructed for use by an >> EAS Participant, but are not offered for sale will be considered on an >> individual basis in accordance with part 1, subpart G, of this chapter. >> >> Subpart G is all about fees for applying for FCC certification and so >> forth, however 1.1116(c) then exempts "Applicants, permittees or >> licensees of noncommercial educational (NCE) broadcast stations in the >> FM or TV services, as well as AM applicants, permittees or licensees >> operating in accordance with ?73.503 of this chapter." >> >> -p >> >> P.S. This does not provide an obvious way to $upport the developers. >> Perhaps a "suggested donation" might work, but that seems like it >> might be crossing the line with respect to the intent of 11.34(e). >> >> P.P.S. The linux minimodem command handles reception and generation of >> the EAS data bursts. Sox(1) produces the attention tone. A Raspberry >> Pi or other low-cost Linux computer plus a couple of cheap USB audio >> dongles, controlling a light and a switch and a web interface, seems >> like it should be plenty to pull this off. The requirements in 47 CFR 11 >> would require a bit of thought to produce something elegant, usable, >> yet compliant. Another way to slice it is to write it as an android app >> to be used on discarded cell phones. >> _______________________________________________ >> This is the Stubblefield mailing list. >> To post, send an email to: Stubblefield at lists.prometheusradio.org >> For list options or to unsubscribe, please visit: >> http://lists.prometheusradio.org/listinfo.cgi/stubblefield-p >> rometheusradio.org >> > > From dklann at wdrt.org Fri Oct 21 15:54:58 2016 From: dklann at wdrt.org (David Klann) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2016 17:54:58 -0500 Subject: [grc] This lst In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <88905618-8243-b41f-900e-71d4d1f5c23f@wdrt.org> Ann, People who post to the GRC list do not receive copies of their own messages by default. You can change your settings by visiting the list shown in the URL at the end of each message that gets posted to the list. The list traffic has lately been very low. Unfortunately, I have no control over how often digests get sent. You can view the archive of all messages at http://maillist.peak.org/pipermail/grc/ Hope this helps, ~David On 10/21/2016 05:44 PM, Ann Garrison via grc wrote: > After the GRC, I sent my report back to this list but I never received it > as a list mailing. Does that mean that I will not receive posts if I am > the author? I also signed up for daily digests, but I'm guessing there > hasn't been enough traffic to generate them. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 213 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From dklann at wdrt.org Fri Oct 21 16:07:42 2016 From: dklann at wdrt.org (David Klann) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2016 18:07:42 -0500 Subject: [grc] This lst In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Um. I stand corrected. *Not* receiving your own posts to the GRC list (or *any* mailing list) is a "feature" of gmail.com. If you want to receive verification of your post to the GRC list, simply set the option "Receive acknowledgement mail when you send mail to the list?" to Yes. Visit the website shown at the end of this message (and all GRC messages) to set that option for yourself. All the gory details are in the message at https://wiki.list.org/DOC/I%20use%20Gmail-Googlemail%2C%20but%20I%20can%27t%20tell%20if%20any%20of%20my%20messages%20have%20been%20posted%20to%20the%20list ~David On 10/21/2016 05:44 PM, Ann Garrison via grc wrote: > After the GRC, I sent my report back to this list but I never received it > as a list mailing. Does that mean that I will not receive posts if I am > the author? I also signed up for daily digests, but I'm guessing there > hasn't been enough traffic to generate them. > > For real, > Ann Garrison > Independent Journalist, > SKYPE: Ann Garrison, Oakland > 415-503-7487 > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 213 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From mae at recnet.com Fri Oct 21 16:10:01 2016 From: mae at recnet.com (Michelle Bradley) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2016 19:10:01 -0400 Subject: [grc] [Stubblefield] Public-Domain EAS station cost? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I like this idea. I feel if we had an open-source EAS consortium, we could potentially get a blanket MOU for IPAWS or that we would need IPAWS to go through a "provider" of some kind. I do feel for right now, any stations who wants to run open source EAS should individually request waivers instead of us getting a blanket waiver. If the FCC feels down the road that a different process needs to take place, they can suggest it. REC would be very supportive of joining into any open-source EAS consortium. =m On 10/21/2016 6:45 PM, Karl Koscher via grc wrote: > We have thought about doing this. We're only streaming on the web right > now, but we have constructed a EAS system that seems to work well and is > integrated into our audio chain. We have been successfully relaying alerts > and tests for about two years. The source code is available at > https://github.com/UWave/uwave-eas, but would probably take some tweaking > to work for other stations. In particular, almost all of our audio chain is > in software (with JACK) and thus it simply shuffles around JACK connections > to play an alert. > > The big thing missing right now is the ability to relay alerts from CAP > feeds. For whatever reason, DHS requires a signed MOU to get access to the > IPAWS feed. We have not pursued this (or a waiver from the FCC to use our > own EAS system) because there's still some uncertainty about us getting on > the air. > > On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 3:36 PM, Karl Koscher > wrote: > >> We have thought about doing this. We're only streaming on the web right >> now, but we have constructed a EAS system that seems to work well and is >> integrated into our audio chain. We have been successfully relaying alerts >> and tests for about two years. The source code is available at >> https://github.com/UWave/uwave-eas, but would probably take some tweaking >> to work for other stations. In particular, almost all of our audio chain is >> in software (with JACK) and thus it simply shuffles around JACK connections >> to play an alert. >> >> The big thing missing right now is the ability to relay alerts from CAP >> feeds. For whatever reason, DHS requires a signed MOU to get access to the >> IPAWS feed. We have not pursued this (or a waiver from the FCC to use our >> own EAS system) because there's still some uncertainty about us getting on >> the air. >> >> On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 3:24 PM, Paul Bame wrote: >> >>> I believe Al Davis pitched this idea a while back, and I have some >>> questions as I began to research it myself. >>> >>> Specifically I'm wondering how much it would cost stations? My working >>> hypothesis is that a station which constructed its own EAS unit (from >>> open-source plans) could apply for a waiver under 47 CFR 11.34(e) which >>> would cost them no money according to 1.1116(c). The waiver would >>> logically be developed by the open-source developers and provided as >>> part of the package. >>> >>> Does this seem feasible, or even correct? >>> >>> --- >>> >>> 47 CFR 11.34(e) Waiver requests of the Certification requirements >>> for EAS Encoders or EAS Decoders which are constructed for use by an >>> EAS Participant, but are not offered for sale will be considered on an >>> individual basis in accordance with part 1, subpart G, of this chapter. >>> >>> Subpart G is all about fees for applying for FCC certification and so >>> forth, however 1.1116(c) then exempts "Applicants, permittees or >>> licensees of noncommercial educational (NCE) broadcast stations in the >>> FM or TV services, as well as AM applicants, permittees or licensees >>> operating in accordance with ?73.503 of this chapter." >>> >>> -p >>> >>> P.S. This does not provide an obvious way to $upport the developers. >>> Perhaps a "suggested donation" might work, but that seems like it >>> might be crossing the line with respect to the intent of 11.34(e). >>> >>> P.P.S. The linux minimodem command handles reception and generation of >>> the EAS data bursts. Sox(1) produces the attention tone. A Raspberry >>> Pi or other low-cost Linux computer plus a couple of cheap USB audio >>> dongles, controlling a light and a switch and a web interface, seems >>> like it should be plenty to pull this off. The requirements in 47 CFR 11 >>> would require a bit of thought to produce something elegant, usable, >>> yet compliant. Another way to slice it is to write it as an android app >>> to be used on discarded cell phones. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This is the Stubblefield mailing list. >>> To post, send an email to: Stubblefield at lists.prometheusradio.org >>> For list options or to unsubscribe, please visit: >>> http://lists.prometheusradio.org/listinfo.cgi/stubblefield-p >>> rometheusradio.org >>> >> > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc From mike at brownbroadcast.com Sat Oct 22 14:13:45 2016 From: mike at brownbroadcast.com (Michael D. Brown) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2016 14:13:45 -0700 Subject: [grc] Pirate radio station in Mosul Message-ID: <83932834DBB148BC8A41864DE4700DF8@Darth> http://feeltiptop.com/redir.php?q=%22mosul%20pirate%22 &url=https://t.co/HjToOOUJ9j Michael D. Brown Brown Broadcast Services, Inc. 3740 SW Comus St. ? Portland OR 97219-7418 USA mike at brownbroadcast.com ? www.brownbroadcast.com offc 503-245-6065 ? cell 503-703-3202 ? fax 503-245-5773 From tom at spinitron.com Mon Oct 24 05:01:52 2016 From: tom at spinitron.com (Tom Worster) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2016 08:01:52 -0400 Subject: [grc] Pirate radio station in Mosul In-Reply-To: <83932834DBB148BC8A41864DE4700DF8@Darth> References: <83932834DBB148BC8A41864DE4700DF8@Darth> Message-ID: Is this the same outfit? http://alghad.fm/ Tom On 10/22/16, 5:13 PM, "grc on behalf of Michael D. Brown via grc" wrote: >http://feeltiptop.com/redir.php?q=%22mosul%20pirate%22 >jT >oOOUJ9j> &url=https://t.co/HjToOOUJ9j > > >Michael D. Brown >Brown Broadcast Services, Inc. >3740 SW Comus St. ? Portland OR 97219-7418 USA > mike at brownbroadcast.com ? > www.brownbroadcast.com >offc 503-245-6065 ? cell 503-703-3202 ? fax 503-245-5773 > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >grc mailing list >grc at maillist.peak.org >http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc From frieda.werden at gmail.com Tue Oct 25 11:25:06 2016 From: frieda.werden at gmail.com (Frieda Werden) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2016 11:25:06 -0700 Subject: [grc] Fwd: [NCRA-Members] Fwd: Canadians continue to shift towards digital platforms In-Reply-To: <3A90C37D-A086-40D9-8429-8B40E3F03107@gmail.com> References: <3A90C37D-A086-40D9-8429-8B40E3F03107@gmail.com> Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Ken Zakreski Date: Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 11:11 AM Subject: [NCRA-Members] Fwd: Canadians continue to shift towards digital platforms To: NCRA Members Do you know where your listener is today? Ken Zakreski ken.zakreski at gmail.com Begin forwarded message: *From: *DoNotRespond at crtc.gc.ca *Subject: **Canadians continue to shift towards digital platforms* *Date: *October 25, 2016 at 10:00:00 AM CDT *To: *Ken Zakreski CRTC releases report on the broadcasting sector in Canada October 25, 2016 ? Ottawa-Gatineau ? Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission (CRTC) The Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission (CRTC) today released a report that shows how the viewing and listening habits of Canadians are transforming the broadcasting industry. The report is the first part of the CRTC?s *2016 Communications Monitoring Report* . Canadians are consuming more audio and video content on digital media and over devices connected to the Internet. Twenty percent of Canadians report listening to online music streaming services, and 57% of Anglophones and 49% of Francophones report watching online TV. In general, Canadians are still listening to traditional radio, however, a closer look at the data shows that younger Canadians have different listening habits than other age groups. In fact, those between 12 and 24 years old listen to half the amount of traditional radio than other Canadians do. The same phenomenon is occurring in the television sector. Even if, overall, Canadians are still watching television the traditional way, those in the 12-17 and 18-34 year-old age groups are watching less traditional television than in previous years. Conversely, Canadians 65 years and older watch more than twice the amount of traditional TV than younger ones do. Quick Facts The *Communications Monitoring Report* - The *2016 Communications Monitoring Report* provides a detailed overview of the Canadian communication industry, as well as industry data and information, including emerging trends and issues. - This year, the CRTC is releasing the report in two parts. The first release represents data for the broadcasting sector. On October 26, 2016 the full report will be released. Broadcasting sector - Broadcasting revenues, which include radio, TV and television service providers? revenues, decreased slightly by 1.6% to $17.9 billion. - Revenues from the radio sector decreased by 1.2% to $1.9 billion. - Revenues from the television sector decreased by 3.4% to $7.1 billion. - Revenues for television service providers remained stable at $8.9 billion. Radio sector - Canadians are listening to an average of 16.2 hours of radio per week, which represents a slight decrease of 1.8% from 2014. - 12 to 24 year olds only listen to an average of 8.2 hours of traditional radio per week (half of the time other Canadians spend listening). Television sector - Canadians watched an average of 27.2 hours of television per week by traditional means in 2015 (over-the-air, via cable, satellite and Internet Protocol television (IPTV). This represents a minor decrease of 0.7% from 2014. - The age groups that have seen the most significant decreases in traditional TV viewing are 12-17 year olds (decrease of 5.5%) and 18-34 year olds (decrease of 4.4%). - 12 to 34 year olds watch the least TV (19 hours per week), while those who are 65+ years old watch the most TV (42 hours per week). - Cable, IPTV and satellite TV services had 11.2 million subscribers in 2015, a 1.4% decline from 2014. - Canadians who subscribed to a TV service mostly subscribe to cable (60% in 2015). However, subscriptions to cable TV are declining (from 69% in 2011). - IPTV service, conversely, is rapidly growing, obtaining 19.2% of total subscribers in 2015, compared to 5.8% in 2011, representing a 34.9% growth. Moreover, IPTV providers reported, for the first time, over 2 million subscribers in 2015. - Collectively, TV broadcasters invested nearly $3 billion in the production of Canadian programming in 2015. Digital platforms - 23% of Canadians stream AM/FM radio online, an increase of 1% over 2014. - 55% stream music videos on YouTube, an increase of 3% over 2014. - 20% of Canadians listen to music on online streaming services, an increase of 2% over 2014. - Between 2014 and 2015 the percentage of Anglophones who watched online TV increased by 6% reaching 57% while Francophones increased by 7% reaching 49%. - Canadians watching TV exclusively online remained stable at 8% in 2015. This number has doubled since 2012. Quote ?This year?s report clearly shows that viewing and listening habits are continuing to shift. Younger Canadians are the ones who consume the least amount of audio-visual content using traditional ways. Online platforms are increasingly attractive and accessible to Canadians. The broadcasting industry must ensure that it meets the changing needs of Canadians, who increasingly want to watch and listen to content on the platform of their choice.? - Jean-Pierre Blais, CRTC Chairman and CEO Related Products - *2016 Communications Monitoring Report* - 30 - Contacts Media relations 819-997-9403 General inquiries 819-997-0313 Toll-free no.: 1-877-249-CRTC (2782) TTY: 819-994-0423 Ask a question or make a complaint Stay connected Follow us on Twitter: @CRTCeng Like us on Facebook: www.facebook.com/crtceng *These documents are available in alternative format upon request.* ------------ Unsubscribe from the CRTC News Releases -- Please follow the rules of this mailing list as posted on the NCRA website here: http://ncra.ca/members/email-lists --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NCRA Members" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ncra-members+unsubscribe at ncra.ca. To post to this group, send email to ncra-members at ncra.ca. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/ ncra.ca/d/msgid/ncra-members/3A90C37D-A086-40D9-8429- 8B40E3F03107%40gmail.com . -- Frieda Werden, Series Producer WINGS: Women's International News Gathering Service www.wings.org https://www.facebook.com/wingsradio From ursula at pacifica.org Fri Oct 28 12:36:50 2016 From: ursula at pacifica.org (Ursula Ruedenberg) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2016 14:36:50 -0500 Subject: [grc] Election Content from the Grassroots - Your Voice Needed Message-ID: At the Pacifica Affiliates office, we are utilizing the talent and resources of community radio, recording interviews with the help of community radio stations - from state to state - about what is happening with the election, what is motivating folks. If you are not in Pacifica Network but have an important election story, please contact me at ursula at pacifica.org so we can record an interview and bring your voice to the national platform. Also, if you are a Pacifica affiliate and missed our other notices. By the way, we will use some of these interviews for our Sprouts show posted next Wednesday afternoon. Sprouts is not password protected and available to any station whether you are an affiliate or not. http://audioport.org/index.php?op=series&series=Sprouts Short and informative interviews are describing what people are thinking and feeling about these things in different areas of the country: What is driving voting choices in the presidential race What is driving voting choices in congressional races (State and national) and how much the presidential race is influencing these What local initiatives and referendums are important Other election issues unique to the state Voter access Thanks Ursula Ruedenberg -- Ursula Ruedenberg Pacifica Affiliate Network Manager 510-812-7989 pacificanetwork.org -- From lanny at kllg.org Sun Oct 30 19:33:12 2016 From: lanny at kllg.org (Lanny Cotler) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2016 19:33:12 -0700 Subject: [grc] A bit of trouble... Message-ID: <8F4CBA56-7237-49D8-9130-298925B35699@kllg.org> Greetings Brothers and Sisters of the Greater GRC, As some of you know, we?re a brand new LPFM broadcasting on 97.9 out of Willits, CA (in the heart of the NorCal Redwoods. I?m hoping a couple of you might have some troubleshooting suggestions for us. Here?s a note from our Chief Engineer, Roger Wilson, We have a problem at the KLLG station and need experienced, professional audio engineer ideas. Two different Bands played at the Grange main room. Each time, when their guitar amps were plugged in on the stage; they picked up our station. 1. I heard it. soft voices and music (I clearly understood the voices, recognized them.) And a loud (louder than the voices) buzz. (it did not sound like just AC hum.) 2. when I placed my hand near (a couple of inches) the Amp power cord; the buzz changed. 3. The only remedy I had was to turn off our transmitter. a. that reduced the buzz to almost not noticeable, and b. no KLLG signal was heard at all. 4. Later, after the transmitter was off, their sound guy was cleaning up the stage (before the musicians appeared.) When he bundled all the power cords together, the buzz disappeared. This sounds (to me & the sound guy) like a bad ground. help! any suggestions would be appreciated. Your thoughts? We?re just starting out. Better now than later. KLLG ~ 97.9 FM Lanny Cotler, General Manager A Project of Little Lake Grange #670 Willits Hometown Radio?Low Power, High Energy P.O Box 820, Willits, CA 95490 707-367-1812 LANNY at KLLG.ORG From frieda.werden at gmail.com Sun Oct 30 20:56:00 2016 From: frieda.werden at gmail.com (Frieda Werden) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2016 20:56:00 -0700 Subject: [grc] A bit of trouble... In-Reply-To: <8F4CBA56-7237-49D8-9130-298925B35699@kllg.org> References: <8F4CBA56-7237-49D8-9130-298925B35699@kllg.org> Message-ID: A bad ground may indeed have something to do with it, but a looped wire can definitely turn into an antenna. You could have tried straightening out the cords of the guitar amps so wires did not cross themselves or each other, to see if that solved it. On Sunday, 30 October 2016, Lanny Cotler via grc wrote: > Greetings Brothers and Sisters of the Greater GRC, > > As some of you know, we?re a brand new LPFM broadcasting on 97.9 out of > Willits, CA (in the heart of the NorCal Redwoods. I?m hoping a couple of > you might have some troubleshooting suggestions for us. > > Here?s a note from our Chief Engineer, Roger Wilson, > > We have a problem at the KLLG station and need experienced, professional > audio engineer ideas. > > Two different Bands played at the Grange main room. Each time, when their > guitar amps were plugged in on the stage; they picked up our station. > > 1. I heard it. soft voices and music (I clearly understood the voices, > recognized them.) And a loud (louder than the voices) buzz. (it did not > sound like just AC hum.) > 2. when I placed my hand near (a couple of inches) the Amp power cord; the > buzz changed. > 3. The only remedy I had was to turn off our transmitter. > a. that reduced the buzz to almost not noticeable, and > b. no KLLG signal was heard at all. > 4. Later, after the transmitter was off, their sound guy was cleaning up > the stage (before the musicians appeared.) When he bundled all the power > cords together, the buzz disappeared. > > This sounds (to me & the sound guy) like a bad ground. > > help! any suggestions would be appreciated. > > Your thoughts? We?re just starting out. Better now than later. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > KLLG ~ 97.9 FM > Lanny Cotler, General Manager > A Project of Little Lake Grange #670 > Willits Hometown Radio?Low Power, High Energy > P.O Box 820, Willits, CA 95490 > 707-367-1812 > LANNY at KLLG.ORG > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > -- Frieda Werden, Series Producer WINGS: Women's International News Gathering Service www.wings.org https://www.facebook.com/wingsradio From jeff at davismedia.org Sun Oct 30 21:41:27 2016 From: jeff at davismedia.org (Jeff Shaw) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2016 21:41:27 -0700 Subject: [grc] A bit of trouble... In-Reply-To: References: <8F4CBA56-7237-49D8-9130-298925B35699@kllg.org> Message-ID: <356e0c48-7a07-c603-0c0c-46e1711320fc@davismedia.org> Hi Lanny- hopefully some actual engineers will chime in, but we would pick up our radio station (antenna on the roof) on our studio intercom system (we are also a public access tv station) until I bought a bunch of ferrite beads and put them on the lil' intercom cables: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrite_bead I've also had many annoying buzzes in our poorly grounded studio when we've hosted bands. Make sure the amps are plugged into the same circuit as the PA system (if you have a PA system). I have to run long extension cords to get everything on the same circuit. For the most part, this eliminated buzz. And yes, I've never really solved the amps picking up the radio station problem. It has happened to us, though maybe it was dim enough perhaps we forget about it after they turn up a bit. Plus I remember giving the musicians a replacement cable I believed at the time to be better shielded, so maybe the power of belief blinded our ears from the interference. Honestly can't remember if that worked, but worth a shot. Like I said, I hope some actual engineers chime in here. Jeff On 10/30/16 8:56 PM, Frieda Werden via grc wrote: > A bad ground may indeed have something to do with it, but a looped wire can > definitely turn into an antenna. You could have tried straightening out > the cords of the guitar amps so wires did not cross themselves or each > other, to see if that solved it. > > On Sunday, 30 October 2016, Lanny Cotler via grc > wrote: > >> Greetings Brothers and Sisters of the Greater GRC, >> >> As some of you know, we?re a brand new LPFM broadcasting on 97.9 out of >> Willits, CA (in the heart of the NorCal Redwoods. I?m hoping a couple of >> you might have some troubleshooting suggestions for us. >> >> Here?s a note from our Chief Engineer, Roger Wilson, >> >> We have a problem at the KLLG station and need experienced, professional >> audio engineer ideas. >> >> Two different Bands played at the Grange main room. Each time, when their >> guitar amps were plugged in on the stage; they picked up our station. >> >> 1. I heard it. soft voices and music (I clearly understood the voices, >> recognized them.) And a loud (louder than the voices) buzz. (it did not >> sound like just AC hum.) >> 2. when I placed my hand near (a couple of inches) the Amp power cord; the >> buzz changed. >> 3. The only remedy I had was to turn off our transmitter. >> a. that reduced the buzz to almost not noticeable, and >> b. no KLLG signal was heard at all. >> 4. Later, after the transmitter was off, their sound guy was cleaning up >> the stage (before the musicians appeared.) When he bundled all the power >> cords together, the buzz disappeared. >> >> This sounds (to me & the sound guy) like a bad ground. >> >> help! any suggestions would be appreciated. >> >> Your thoughts? We?re just starting out. Better now than later. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> KLLG ~ 97.9 FM >> Lanny Cotler, General Manager >> A Project of Little Lake Grange #670 >> Willits Hometown Radio?Low Power, High Energy >> P.O Box 820, Willits, CA 95490 >> 707-367-1812 >> LANNY at KLLG.ORG > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> grc mailing list >> grc at maillist.peak.org >> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc >> > -- Production Manager, Davis Media Access Station Director, KDRT-LP "There is no future that is not built in the present" - Sanchez Gordillo From bk at a4md.org Mon Oct 31 01:56:02 2016 From: bk at a4md.org (Barbara K) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2016 09:56:02 +0100 Subject: [grc] A bit of trouble... In-Reply-To: <356e0c48-7a07-c603-0c0c-46e1711320fc@davismedia.org> References: <8F4CBA56-7237-49D8-9130-298925B35699@kllg.org> <356e0c48-7a07-c603-0c0c-46e1711320fc@davismedia.org> Message-ID: Hi Lanny and GRCers It may be that the cable between the guitar and the guitar amp (or somewhere along the line between the guitar, the guitarist's effects pedal, and the amp) could be picking up the radio signal. Then, when that signal gets amplified, it's easy to hear the station. Guitar cables are notoriously unshielded. And due to a musician's income level, some musicians may be unable to afford high quality cable, opting for affordability and lower quality. Stations that produce live music might consider purchasing high quality guitar cables (and a few 1/4" patch cables) to substitute in the guitarist's signal path (between guitar, pedals and amp) when interference is perceived. Just be sure to label the cables with your station's call letter as they can be easily overlooked when quickly wrapping a session. Sometimes a long guitar cable is plugged directly into the mixing board, as often is the case with acoustic guitars. The longer the cable, them more opportunity for the cable to pick up interference. Direct Input boxes, or DI boxes, reduce the length of an unshielded signal path, in that a short cable can be plugged in from guitar to DI, and a shielded mic cable comes from the output of the DI to the input of the mixing board. Some DIs come with a ground switch which may be helpful during times of ground loops causing a buzz in the signal path. DIs can be passive (requiring no batteries and no power) to active (requiring a power supply, often "phantom power' from a mixing board that generates phantom power and delivered through the mic cable that runs from the DI to the mixing board). For a radio studio application, which may need to record/broadcast instruments ranging from electric/acoustic guitars to keyboards to computer generated signals, if your mixer is capable of generating phantom power, I'd suggest employing active DIs that are capable of receiving phantom power and also have a ground switch. For those without phantom power, (not being a fan of batteries for critical applications in seldom used recording equipment) I'd suggest active DIs with an external power supply and ground switch. Barbara K On Oct 31, 2016, at 5:41 AM, Jeff Shaw via grc wrote: > Hi Lanny- hopefully some actual engineers will chime in, but we would > pick up our radio station (antenna on the roof) on our studio intercom > system (we are also a public access tv station) until I bought a bunch > of ferrite beads and put them on the lil' intercom cables: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrite_bead > > I've also had many annoying buzzes in our poorly grounded studio when > we've hosted bands. Make sure the amps are plugged into the same > circuit as the PA system (if you have a PA system). I have to run > long extension cords to get everything on the same circuit. For the > most part, this eliminated buzz. > > And yes, I've never really solved the amps picking up the radio station > problem. It has happened to us, though maybe it was dim enough perhaps > we forget about it after they turn up a bit. Plus I remember giving > the musicians a replacement cable I believed at the time to be better > shielded, so maybe the power of belief blinded our ears from the > interference. Honestly can't remember if that worked, but worth a > shot. Like I said, I hope some actual engineers chime in here. > > Jeff > > > On 10/30/16 8:56 PM, Frieda Werden via grc wrote: >> A bad ground may indeed have something to do with it, but a looped wire can >> definitely turn into an antenna. You could have tried straightening out >> the cords of the guitar amps so wires did not cross themselves or each >> other, to see if that solved it. >> >> On Sunday, 30 October 2016, Lanny Cotler via grc >> wrote: >> >>> Greetings Brothers and Sisters of the Greater GRC, >>> >>> As some of you know, we?re a brand new LPFM broadcasting on 97.9 out of >>> Willits, CA (in the heart of the NorCal Redwoods. I?m hoping a couple of >>> you might have some troubleshooting suggestions for us. >>> >>> Here?s a note from our Chief Engineer, Roger Wilson, >>> >>> We have a problem at the KLLG station and need experienced, professional >>> audio engineer ideas. >>> >>> Two different Bands played at the Grange main room. Each time, when their >>> guitar amps were plugged in on the stage; they picked up our station. >>> >>> 1. I heard it. soft voices and music (I clearly understood the voices, >>> recognized them.) And a loud (louder than the voices) buzz. (it did not >>> sound like just AC hum.) >>> 2. when I placed my hand near (a couple of inches) the Amp power cord; the >>> buzz changed. >>> 3. The only remedy I had was to turn off our transmitter. >>> a. that reduced the buzz to almost not noticeable, and >>> b. no KLLG signal was heard at all. >>> 4. Later, after the transmitter was off, their sound guy was cleaning up >>> the stage (before the musicians appeared.) When he bundled all the power >>> cords together, the buzz disappeared. >>> >>> This sounds (to me & the sound guy) like a bad ground. >>> >>> help! any suggestions would be appreciated. >>> >>> Your thoughts? We?re just starting out. Better now than later. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> KLLG ~ 97.9 FM >>> Lanny Cotler, General Manager >>> A Project of Little Lake Grange #670 >>> Willits Hometown Radio?Low Power, High Energy >>> P.O Box 820, Willits, CA 95490 >>> 707-367-1812 >>> LANNY at KLLG.ORG > >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> grc mailing list >>> grc at maillist.peak.org >>> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc >>> >> > > > -- > Production Manager, Davis Media Access > Station Director, KDRT-LP > > "There is no future that is not built in the present" - Sanchez Gordillo > > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc From bame at riverrock.org Mon Oct 31 04:14:36 2016 From: bame at riverrock.org (Paul Bame) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2016 07:14:36 -0400 Subject: [grc] A bit of trouble... In-Reply-To: <8F4CBA56-7237-49D8-9130-298925B35699@kllg.org> References: <8F4CBA56-7237-49D8-9130-298925B35699@kllg.org> Message-ID: Great detail in this report! My guess is that there was both 60Hz hum from the usual causes -- poor ground or no ground or ground loop(s), and with the usual cures... ...AND that your RF was getting into the amp. Look at an amp like a big radio receiver and /all/ the wires connected to it as antennas -- not that simple really but a good model anyway. Based on the report of touching the power cord and buzz changing, my guess is the power cord was the primary antenna /that/ time. I'd obtain a bunch of clamp-on or snap-on ferrite cores and attach them to the power cord at the point where it enters the amp. If that doesn't fix it, put em on the instrument cord too -- nearest to the amp as you can get. More cores work better than one. Break the clips on the cores and use tape so you can re-use them for the next band. Maybe borrow a guitar amp for experiments. https://www.amazon.com/RF-Choke-31500-Ferrite-Material/dp/B00XDACVOM From juice at whidbey.com Mon Oct 31 09:35:09 2016 From: juice at whidbey.com (Tom Voorhees) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2016 09:35:09 -0700 Subject: [grc] Pipeline Radio Message-ID: <6b9bdf7065d517b302646188f7a022d9d150efbb@webmail.whidbey.com> Live standing rock Radio links updated on this blog as they continuously appear to be intentionally blocked by officialdom. Tom http://bsnorrell.blogspot.com/2016/08/standing-rock-spirit-resistance-radio.html?m=1 [1] > Links: ------ [1] http://bsnorrell.blogspot.com/2016/08/standing-rock-spirit-resistance-radio.html?m=1 From evan at kgnu.org Mon Oct 31 16:13:57 2016 From: evan at kgnu.org (Evan Perkins) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2016 17:13:57 -0600 Subject: [grc] KGNU Radio is hiring a Music Director Message-ID: KGNU seeks a talented, creative, versatile, ambitious, and personable individual to serve as KGNU?s Music Director. This is an intensely demanding Full Time position that serves under the general supervision of the Station Manager. The Music Director is responsible for administering, coordinating, directing, supervising all activities related to the KGNU Music Department. The application deadline is December 2nd. T he complete job description and application instructions are here: http://www.kgnu.org/cgi-bin/moreinfo.py?Notice=1477942170 Please circulate this job posting widely. No phone calls. -- I have the honor to be Your Obedient Servant, Evan Perkins Operations Director KGNU Community Radio 4700 Walnut St. Boulder, CO 80301-2548 303.449.4885 88.5 FM / 1390 AM (Boulder + Denver) 93.7 FM (Nederland) www.kgnu.org + KGNU News + AfterFM (KGNU's 24/7 Music Channel) Twitter and Facebook