From frieda.werden at gmail.com Sat Sep 3 00:13:18 2016 From: frieda.werden at gmail.com (Frieda Werden) Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2016 00:13:18 -0700 Subject: [grc] Pipeline protest radio looking for a laptop Message-ID: Robin Carneen shared a post to your Timeline . 35 mins ? "Here are the specifics again.. If it is purchased at Best Buy it is easy to exchange if need be. Urgent: Govinda, broadacsting live from Standing Rock Camp, has an urgent need for a laptop to broadcast. Here is what he needs: "I7 processor, 3rd gen or newer, at least 16 gigs of ram. Prefer ssd drive, pc." (One of his laptops has been destroyed.) Facebook message Govinda Dalton or e-mail me brendanorrell at gmail.com " Brenda Norrell September 1 at 9:36am ? Urgent: Govinda, broadacsting live from Standing Rock Camp, has an urgent need for a laptop to broadcast. Here is what he needs: "I7 processor, 3rd gen or newer, at least 16 gigs of ram. Prefer ssd drive, pc." (One of his laptops has been destroyed.) Facebook message Govinda Dalton or e-mail me brendanorrell at gmail.com -- Frieda Werden, Series Producer WINGS: Women's International News Gathering Service www.wings.org https://www.facebook.com/wingsradio From wings at wings.org Tue Sep 6 16:36:18 2016 From: wings at wings.org (Frieda Werden) Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2016 16:36:18 -0700 Subject: [grc] Fwd: [NCRA-Members] Any recent and good Canadian (short? feature?) films on Community Radio you can point us to? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: *Giovanni Spezzacatena* Date: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 Subject: [NCRA-Members] Any recent and good Canadian (short? feature?) films on Community Radio you can point us to? To: ncra-members at ncra.ca Hi all- Rabideye here from CJMP 90.1FM Community Radio in Powell River, BC (www.cjmp.ca) We're thinking about a relevant film screening: Any* recent and good Canadian (short? feature?) films on Community Radio you can point us to?* *If not, then non-Canadian?* Thanks very much- *Giovanni Spezzacatena* *Ideas?Design?Motion**?**Sounds* *604.485.7940 **? rabideye.com **? **1000 tiny Magnets Radio * * * [image: Facebook] *? *[image: Facebook] [image: Twitter] [image: WordPress] *?* [image: Twitter] [image: Facebook] [image: WordPress] -- Please follow the rules of this mailing list as posted on the NCRA website here: http://ncra.ca/members/email-lists --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NCRA Members" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ncra-members+unsubscribe at ncra.ca . To post to this group, send email to ncra-members at ncra.ca . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/ ncra.ca/d/msgid/ncra-members/CAGxymb9fmEEC_h9MUB8ousS2KpUzE6rRByKP6zOoKu% 3DDv%2BP%3D3g%40mail.gmail.com . -- Frieda Werden, Series Producer WINGS: Women's International News Gathering Service www.wings.org From wings at wings.org Wed Sep 7 08:39:10 2016 From: wings at wings.org (Frieda Werden) Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2016 08:39:10 -0700 Subject: [grc] Fwd: [NCRA-Members] Any recent and good Canadian (short? feature?) films on Community Radio you can point us to? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: *Barry Rooke* Date: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 Subject: [NCRA-Members] Any recent and good Canadian (short? feature?) films on Community Radio you can point us to? To: Giovanni Spezzacatena Cc: NCRA Members I thought the Hip-Hop Doc that CHUO aired at the NCRC was amazing. *Stretch and Bobbito: Radio That Changed Lives. (USA)* Alternatively, there is a British popular movie called Pirate Radio / *The Boat That Rocked *which is interesting. *Radio Unnameable (USA)* is a documentary about freeform radio pioneer Bob Fass is also very interesting (A bit about archiving). Would love to hear some other ideas, we can post this on the NCRA website as well for future reference! Barry Rooke On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 6:51 PM, Giovanni Spezzacatena < spezzacatena at gmail.com > wrote: > Hi all- > Rabideye here from CJMP 90.1FM > Community Radio in Powell River, BC (www.cjmp.ca) > > We're thinking about a relevant film screening: Any* recent and good > Canadian (short? feature?) films on Community Radio you can point us to?* > > *If not, then non-Canadian?* > > Thanks very much- > > > > *Giovanni Spezzacatena* > *Ideas?Design?Motion**?**Sounds* > *604.485.7940 <604.485.7940> **? rabideye.com **? **1000 > tiny Magnets Radio * > > > * * > [image: Facebook] *? *[image: > Facebook] [image: Twitter] > [image: WordPress] > *?* [image: Twitter] > [image: Facebook] [image: WordPress] > > -- > Please follow the rules of this mailing list as posted on the NCRA website > here: http://ncra.ca/members/email-lists > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "NCRA Members" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to ncra-members+unsubscribe at ncra.ca > . > To post to this group, send email to ncra-members at ncra.ca > . > To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/nc > ra.ca/d/msgid/ncra-members/CAGxymb9fmEEC_h9MUB8ousS2KpUzE6rR > ByKP6zOoKu%3DDv%2BP%3D3g%40mail.gmail.com > > . > -- Barry Rooke Executive Director NCRA/ANREC National Campus and Community Radio Association/ l'Association nationale des radios ?tudiantes et communautaires www.ncra.ca 1.866.859.8086 / (613) 321.1440 barry at ncra.ca Office Hours Follow my industry blog: Twitter Facebook LinkedIn -- Please follow the rules of this mailing list as posted on the NCRA website here: http://ncra.ca/members/email-lists --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NCRA Members" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ncra-members+unsubscribe at ncra.ca . To post to this group, send email to ncra-members at ncra.ca . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/ ncra.ca/d/msgid/ncra-members/CAN1Tpfi_7-qx2T7d9u%2Bs% 3DW7smjU0HpkmLqZZE1X0waDdQXZgOA%40mail.gmail.com . -- Frieda Werden, Series Producer WINGS: Women's International News Gathering Service www.wings.org From terryo at wortfm.org Wed Sep 7 17:29:02 2016 From: terryo at wortfm.org (Terry O'Laughlin) Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2016 19:29:02 -0500 Subject: [grc] Need a good CiviCRM consultant Message-ID: WORT is looking for a good consultant to help integrate our CiviCRM with Quickbooks. We have an accountant donating her time who is excellent with Quickbooks and our pledge person is sharp. There's a bunch of other CiviCRM stuff we'd like to streamline so we're hoping for someone who we can do several short-term projects between pledge drives without a long maintenance contract. Thanks, Terry O' WORT-FM Interim Financial Manager From lupito at kyrs.org Thu Sep 8 08:41:55 2016 From: lupito at kyrs.org (Lupito Flores) Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2016 08:41:55 -0700 Subject: [grc] Need a good CiviCRM consultant In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <037201d209e7$87656430$96302c90$@org> On that note... Can anyone recommend a membership database software? Do other stations like CiviCRM? Any advice is appreciated. Lupito Flores, KYRS Station Manager Thin Air Community Radio 88.1 & 92.3 FM www.kyrs.org Listen & Donate Online Donate your old car/truck/boat! It's quick, easy, and you get a tax receipt! Fall Fund Drive Kickoff Sept. 9th at Paulsen Bldg. Penthouse 13th Anniversary/Halloween Bash Oct. 28th at Big Dipper KYRS Annual Silent Auction Gala Nov. 12th at Hamilton Studios -----Original Message----- From: grc [mailto:grc-bounces at maillist.peak.org] On Behalf Of Terry O'Laughlin via grc Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 5:29 PM To: grc at maillist.peak.org Subject: [grc] Need a good CiviCRM consultant WORT is looking for a good consultant to help integrate our CiviCRM with Quickbooks. We have an accountant donating her time who is excellent with Quickbooks and our pledge person is sharp. There's a bunch of other CiviCRM stuff we'd like to streamline so we're hoping for someone who we can do several short-term projects between pledge drives without a long maintenance contract. Thanks, Terry O' WORT-FM Interim Financial Manager _______________________________________________ grc mailing list grc at maillist.peak.org http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc From terryo at wortfm.org Fri Sep 9 05:00:23 2016 From: terryo at wortfm.org (Terry O'Laughlin) Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2016 07:00:23 -0500 Subject: [grc] Need a good CiviCRM consultant In-Reply-To: <037201d209e7$87656430$96302c90$@org> References: <037201d209e7$87656430$96302c90$@org> Message-ID: I guess WORT isn't the only station with less than ideal linkage between CiviCRM and Quickbooks. For a long time here it's been done via exported reports followed by a second round of pledge data entry into Quickbooks. A generous accountant and our auditor found significant discrepancies in the data between the two systems in the years they checked. A double whammy of duplicating work and getting inaccurate results. Wow. This has got to change. I don't have answers for those of you who sent questions, but as the Firesign Theater said, "we are working on the problem..." Terry O' Interim Financial Manager WORT-FM On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 10:41 AM, Lupito Flores wrote: > On that note... > Can anyone recommend a membership database software? Do other stations like > CiviCRM? > Any advice is appreciated. > > > Lupito Flores, KYRS Station Manager > Thin Air Community Radio 88.1 & 92.3 FM > www.kyrs.org > Listen & Donate Online > > Donate your old car/truck/boat! > It's quick, easy, and you get a tax receipt! > > Fall Fund Drive Kickoff Sept. 9th at Paulsen Bldg. Penthouse > 13th Anniversary/Halloween Bash Oct. 28th at Big Dipper > KYRS Annual Silent Auction Gala Nov. 12th at Hamilton Studios > > > -----Original Message----- > From: grc [mailto:grc-bounces at maillist.peak.org] On Behalf Of Terry > O'Laughlin via grc > Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 5:29 PM > To: grc at maillist.peak.org > Subject: [grc] Need a good CiviCRM consultant > > WORT is looking for a good consultant to help integrate our CiviCRM with > Quickbooks. We have an accountant donating her time who is excellent with > Quickbooks and our pledge person is sharp. > > There's a bunch of other CiviCRM stuff we'd like to streamline so we're > hoping for someone who we can do several short-term projects between pledge > drives without a long maintenance contract. > > Thanks, > Terry O' > WORT-FM Interim Financial Manager > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > > From lanny at kllg.org Fri Sep 9 20:20:20 2016 From: lanny at kllg.org (Lanny Cotler) Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2016 20:20:20 -0700 Subject: [grc] What's a good software for creating the large weekly schedule? Message-ID: <441217E8-75E5-47D5-970C-13C62118F2FC@kllg.org> Comrades, We just got our C.P. converted to a full-fledged LPFM license! Yay! We?re on the air! And now we need to create/develop our weekly schedule. Is there software or a method that you recommend we approach this ?graphic? chore? What is the best way to lay it out?and make adjustments? Spreadsheet? Table in Word or Pages? Other? We?re stoked?and now wait upon those who?ve gone before to share their best practices with us? Lanny for KLLG KLLG ~ 97.9 FM Lanny Cotler, General Manager A Project of Little Lake Grange #670 Willits Hometown Radio?Low Power, High Energy P.O Box 820, Willits, CA 95490 707-367-1812 LANNY at KLLG.ORG From jimedia at grandecom.net Mon Sep 12 10:57:04 2016 From: jimedia at grandecom.net (Jim Ellinger) Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 12:57:04 -0500 Subject: [grc] Full power NCE LMA agreements In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <418fcb1c-eb92-7727-dd94-c82738a00565@grandecom.net> What LMA type arrangements are allowed for full NCE CPs? Need a definitive answer immediately plz. URGENT. From mae at recnet.com Mon Sep 12 11:03:03 2016 From: mae at recnet.com (Michelle Bradley) Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 14:03:03 -0400 Subject: [grc] READ THIS!!! Message-ID: <4e9a8aa0-cdf2-1b51-cc50-97b635d135c3@recnet.com> You may have a possibility here.... http://www.wcsr.com/resources/pdfs/telecommunicationmemos1111.pdf Holding Period ? Applications awarded through decisive 307(b) preferences or through the point system generally will have to be held for a minimum of four years following commencement of operations. Although the Commission rejected a proposal that applicants certify annually to their continued eligibility for the points they received, the Commission instead will conduct random audits during the four year holding period. Technical changes (including those mandated by an involuntary loss of site) will require replacement facilities with equivalent area and population coverage. *Assignments or transfers of control during the four year period will be limited to recovery of legitimate and prudent expenses of obtaining the permit and constructing the station (but not operating costs). Moreover, any proposed assignee or transferee will be required to demonstrate that it would qualify for the same or a greater number of points as the assignor had originally received.* Turnover in a board of directors will require that the replacement members exhibit diversity and localism traits similar to those of outgoing members. =m From mae at recnet.com Mon Sep 12 11:05:26 2016 From: mae at recnet.com (Michelle Bradley) Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 14:05:26 -0400 Subject: [grc] oh crapp!!!!! Message-ID: <10cf71bf-c302-9d26-2953-c0fe4d725bb9@recnet.com> That was not meant to go on the list. Sorry... I hate Thunderbird. Anyway, that may be your solution here... =m From ksholcomb at gmail.com Fri Sep 16 09:47:35 2016 From: ksholcomb at gmail.com (Karen Holcomb) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 11:47:35 -0500 Subject: [grc] GRC 2016 coming soon! Message-ID: Just a quick reminder that the Grassroots Radio Conference for 2016 is coming up soon, October 7th - 10th in Hot Springs, Arkansas. Registration is done through BrownPaper Tickets for a discount before October 1st. This conference is hosted by KUHS-lp 97.9, a solar-powered community station in Hot Springs. This will be an event and information-packed conference, with many new and up-to-date presenters, along with many familiar faces, all set in the quirky resort town of Hot Springs. This promises to be a conference to remember. For information, go to grc2016.net. See you in Hot Springs! Karen Holcomb KUHS-lp, GRC2016 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Jennifer Jennifer Waits Co-Founder, Radio Survivor http://www.radiosurvivor.com/ http://www.jennifercwaits.com/ From frieda.werden at gmail.com Fri Sep 23 20:11:40 2016 From: frieda.werden at gmail.com (Frieda Werden) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 23:11:40 -0400 Subject: [grc] Anyone driving to GRC from the Southeast US? Message-ID: -- Frieda Werden, Series Producer WINGS: Women's International News Gathering Service www.wings.org https://www.facebook.com/wingsradio From simon at kmud.org Sun Sep 25 09:08:07 2016 From: simon at kmud.org (Simon Frech) Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 09:08:07 -0700 Subject: [grc] Job opening: KMUD Membership Coordinator Message-ID: Posting on behalf of our new Station Manager, Cynthia Click Redwood Community Radio in Redway, California is seeking to hire a Membership Coordinator. Membership Coordinator Job Description Job Title: Membership Coordinator Reports to: Station Manager Employment Status: Full Time - Salary Position Salary: $26,000 to $29,000 General Description: The Membership Coordinator for Redwood Community Radio (RCR) serves as the liaison between RCR and it?s members, maintaining and enhancing our membership inclusion, communication, and services. The Membership Coordinator will work in conjunction with KMUD staff to attain, and surpass membership goals, and services. Redwood Community Radio is a dynamic established community radio station that is driven by a mission of public service Essential Duties and Responsibilities (other duties may be assigned) Database Management Master Donorsnap membership database and fundraising software. Maintain member database to ensure information is kept up-to-date and accurate. Fulfill thank you gifts and correspondence in a timely manner. Input pledge drive data in a timely manner. Continued self education in Donorsnap using tutorials. Develop Constant Contact strategy to better serve membership. Provide the Redwood Community Radio Board of Directors with membership and programmer information for elections. Layout, Graphics, and Mail Merge, and Printing of Silent Drive Letters. Print Annual Tax Letter in January for the last fiscal year. II. Membership Services Management Respond to listeners and members in a professional and timely manner. Work in conjunction with Development Director to manage acquisition and scheduling of premium gifts, drawings and giveaways. Manage inventory of all materials necessary for KMUD?s fundraising. Work in conjunction with Development Director to create and manage inventory of premiums. Develop Major Donor program in conjunction with the Development Director. Develop Constant Contact, or similar service to expand membership contact capability into online marketing and services. Attend and assist with promotional and special event activities. Membership Analysis Analyze membership data and statistics to better understand and target services and fundraising. Analyze membership data and statistics to improve performance of membership programs. Evaluate potential member mailings. III. Accounts Receivable Posts membership payments, pledges, and premiums in membership database. Prepare bills, invoices and bank deposits. Verify discrepancies and resolve member billing issues promptly. Facilitate quick payments of membership pledges by sending Pledge Reminder Invoices and contacting members with past due accounts. Perform day to day financial transactions including posting, recording, and classifying accounts receivable data. Pay Quarterly Sales Tax Online. Qualifications The ideal candidate will have the following qualifications: Excellent organization and time management skills. Computer literacy, using both Mac and PC?s. Accounting proficiency, Excellent written and verbal communication skills. Ability to maintain confidentiality. Ability to train volunteers. Ability to work flexible hours, including evenings and weekends, as necessary. Ability to work effectively with socio-economically, racially, culturally, and linguistically diverse communities. Ability to model respectful, inclusive, responsible behavior that is consistent with RCR?s mission and the KMUD RCR family values. Familiarity with the utilization of social media platforms. Introductory period There is a three-month introductory period. Tis period is not to be construed as a contract. This means that employment can be terminated, with or without cause, and with or without notice, at any time during or after the introductory period, at the option of the organization ar at the option of the employee. The employee shall be evaluated before the end of the introductory period, and within 30 days of the annual anniversary of the employee's hire date. Employees of Redwood Community Radio are reviewed on an ongoing bi-annual basis Benefits This position offers paid vacation, sick leave, an annual personal day and at least 11 paid holidays per year, in accordance with KMUD Employee Benefits Policy. Annually KMUD observes a 2% cost of living annual increase (COLA). The COLA is applied on January 1st of each year. Working Conditions RCR has a small paid staff and about 400 volunteers. RCR has regular membership drives. They require a substantial amount of time and coordination. The atmosphere is animated and stimulating. The ability to work in this kind of environment is essential. Equipment Used & Physical Working Conditions: Computer (Mac & PC), voicemail, copier, fax. Applicant must be able to remain in a stationary position approximately 6 hours a day. The person in this position needs to occasionally move about the inside of the office to access file cabinets, office machinery, etc. Applicant must have the ability to operate a computer and other office productivity machinery, such as a calculator, copy machine, and computer printer. Applicant must also be able to lift and carry up to 25 lbs. Equal Opportunity Employer KMUD Redwood Community Radio is an equal opportunity employer and affirmative action employer. Women and people of color are encouraged to apply. Our organization does not discriminate on the basis of age, race, religion, color, sex, national origin, marital status, sexual orientation, class, creed, physical or mental disability. To Apply: We must receive a cover letter, resume, and 3 professional references no later than October 14th, 2016. We?d prefer receiving your application (ideally as one attachment) emailed to hiring at kmud.org , but you may also mail your application to KMUD Redwood Community Radio, Membership Coordinator HIre, P.O. Box 135 Redway, CA 95560, or deliver your application to 1144 Redway Dr. Redway, CA. 95560. From mike at brownbroadcast.com Mon Sep 26 18:11:34 2016 From: mike at brownbroadcast.com (Michael D. Brown) Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2016 18:11:34 -0700 Subject: [grc] Last Minute reminders for Wednesday's National EAS test Message-ID: The hard deadline for the ETRS registration and Form One filing is tonight (Monday) at 11:59PM EDT. https://www.fcc.gov/general/eas-test-reporting-system Betty at CMAP can help with this, into the evening (503)-245-5756. At the control point(s), each station (including LPFM) must have a dead-tree physical copy of the recently-updated EAS manual: https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-16-945A1.pdf And a physical copy of the State EAS plan in most cases accessible here: https://www.fcc.gov/public-safety-and-homeland-security/policy-and-licensing -division/alerting/general/state-eas-plans Satellite stations and translators are exempt. Michael D. Brown Brown Broadcast Services, Inc. 3740 SW Comus St. ? Portland OR 97219-7418 USA mike at brownbroadcast.com ? www.brownbroadcast.com offc 503-245-6065 ? cell 503-703-3202 ? fax 503-245-5773 From ksholcomb at gmail.com Tue Sep 27 08:02:58 2016 From: ksholcomb at gmail.com (Karen Holcomb) Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 10:02:58 -0500 Subject: [grc] GRC 2016 is coming up fast!! Message-ID: For those of you who haven't made your arrangements to come to the 2016 Grassroots Radio Conference in Hot Springs, Arkansas, head over to the website, http://www.grc2016.net/schedule, and see what you'll be missing. The schedule is packed with great presenters, many new faces with fresh perspectives, as well as beloved familiar ones. Book now at brownpapertickets.com before October 1st to get the reduced rate of $150 for all three days, breakfasts and lunches included. The registration fee goes up to $175 after October 1st. The Springs Hotel in downtown Hot Springs is ground-zero for the conference. There are still a few rooms available at the very special $55/night rate, but you need to call them at *501-624-5521 and tell the reservations clerk you're attending the GRC.* If the Springs is not your speed, Hot Springs is a resort and has a variety of accomodations at all price points. This is going to be a super-fun and informative conference, where you'll meet great folks and learn what you can do to take your radio station to the next level. Did I mention hot thermal baths? See you Friday, October 7th in Hot Springs! From david at ibisradio.org Tue Sep 27 10:40:22 2016 From: david at ibisradio.org (David Goodman) Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 13:40:22 -0400 Subject: [grc] Fwd: GRC 2016 is coming up fast!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'm curious: how are people who are flying in getting from Little Rock to Hot Springs? Cheers, dg ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Karen Holcomb via grc Date: Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 11:02 AM Subject: [grc] GRC 2016 is coming up fast!! To: grc at maillist.peak.org For those of you who haven't made your arrangements to come to the 2016 Grassroots Radio Conference in Hot Springs, Arkansas, head over to the website, http://www.grc2016.net/schedule, and see what you'll be missing. The schedule is packed with great presenters, many new faces with fresh perspectives, as well as beloved familiar ones. Book now at brownpapertickets.com before October 1st to get the reduced rate of $150 for all three days, breakfasts and lunches included. The registration fee goes up to $175 after October 1st. The Springs Hotel in downtown Hot Springs is ground-zero for the conference. There are still a few rooms available at the very special $55/night rate, but you need to call them at *501-624-5521 and tell the reservations clerk you're attending the GRC.* If the Springs is not your speed, Hot Springs is a resort and has a variety of accomodations at all price points. This is going to be a super-fun and informative conference, where you'll meet great folks and learn what you can do to take your radio station to the next level. Did I mention hot thermal baths? See you Friday, October 7th in Hot Springs! _______________________________________________ grc mailing list grc at maillist.peak.org http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc -- I.B.I.S. Radio Jamaica Plain, Boston, MA *ibisradio.org * From mae at recnet.com Tue Sep 27 12:31:09 2016 From: mae at recnet.com (Michelle Bradley) Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 15:31:09 -0400 Subject: [grc] Fwd: GRC 2016 is coming up fast!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I am renting a car. As long as I make my tight connection in CLT, I should be arriving in LIT at about 10:30AM. =m On 9/27/2016 1:40 PM, David Goodman via grc wrote: > I'm curious: how are people who are flying in getting from Little Rock to > Hot Springs? > > Cheers, > dg > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Karen Holcomb via grc > Date: Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 11:02 AM > Subject: [grc] GRC 2016 is coming up fast!! > To: grc at maillist.peak.org > > > For those of you who haven't made your arrangements to come to the 2016 > Grassroots Radio Conference in Hot Springs, Arkansas, head over to the > website, http://www.grc2016.net/schedule, and see what you'll be missing. > The schedule is packed with great presenters, many new faces with fresh > perspectives, as well as beloved familiar ones. Book now at > brownpapertickets.com before October 1st to get the reduced rate of $150 > for all three days, breakfasts and lunches included. The registration fee > goes up to $175 after October 1st. > > The Springs Hotel in downtown Hot Springs is ground-zero for the > conference. There are still a few rooms available at the very special > $55/night rate, but you need to call them at > *501-624-5521 and tell the reservations clerk you're attending the GRC.* > If the Springs is not your speed, Hot Springs is a resort and has a variety > of accomodations at all price points. > > This is going to be a super-fun and informative conference, where you'll > meet great folks and learn what you can do to take your radio station to > the next level. Did I mention hot thermal baths? > > See you Friday, October 7th in Hot Springs! > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > > > From frieda.werden at gmail.com Tue Sep 27 22:37:52 2016 From: frieda.werden at gmail.com (Frieda Werden) Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2016 01:37:52 -0400 Subject: [grc] GRC 2016 is coming up fast!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Is there a schedule for the conference? On Tuesday, September 27, 2016, Michelle Bradley via grc < grc at maillist.peak.org> wrote: > I am renting a car. As long as I make my tight connection in CLT, I > should be arriving in LIT at about 10:30AM. > > =m > > > > On 9/27/2016 1:40 PM, David Goodman via grc wrote: > >> I'm curious: how are people who are flying in getting from Little Rock to >> Hot Springs? >> >> Cheers, >> dg >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Karen Holcomb via grc >> Date: Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 11:02 AM >> Subject: [grc] GRC 2016 is coming up fast!! >> To: grc at maillist.peak.org >> >> >> For those of you who haven't made your arrangements to come to the 2016 >> Grassroots Radio Conference in Hot Springs, Arkansas, head over to the >> website, http://www.grc2016.net/schedule, and see what you'll be missing. >> The schedule is packed with great presenters, many new faces with fresh >> perspectives, as well as beloved familiar ones. Book now at >> brownpapertickets.com before October 1st to get the reduced rate of $150 >> for all three days, breakfasts and lunches included. The registration fee >> goes up to $175 after October 1st. >> >> The Springs Hotel in downtown Hot Springs is ground-zero for the >> conference. There are still a few rooms available at the very special >> $55/night rate, but you need to call them at >> *501-624-5521 and tell the reservations clerk you're attending the GRC.* >> If the Springs is not your speed, Hot Springs is a resort and has a >> variety >> of accomodations at all price points. >> >> This is going to be a super-fun and informative conference, where you'll >> meet great folks and learn what you can do to take your radio station to >> the next level. Did I mention hot thermal baths? >> >> See you Friday, October 7th in Hot Springs! >> _______________________________________________ >> grc mailing list >> grc at maillist.peak.org >> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > -- Frieda Werden, Series Producer WINGS: Women's International News Gathering Service www.wings.org https://www.facebook.com/wingsradio From lanny at kllg.org Tue Sep 27 22:40:25 2016 From: lanny at kllg.org (Lanny Cotler) Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 22:40:25 -0700 Subject: [grc] Big tech question from new LPFM Message-ID: Our C.P. just became a full license. KLLG-LP is now on the air! In ?test mode?, pumping our via VLC 15 prerecorded easy listening hours with important ?messages? to our listeners. Our Studio A is two weeks away from completion, and that means live programming from our ARC-8 console which is being gratefully borrowed from a nearby sister station. This sister station has also generously loaned us their old EAS unit until we can afford to buy our own. But we can?t use this borrowed unit because the loaner forgot to include, or is still using, the TFT 940A Transmitter/Program interrupt unit (or equivalent). What should we do? The company TFT is no longer in business. When we can afford it, we thinking of buying this unit: https://www.dropbox.com/s/bvq6mcgyso78rf3/Screenshot%202016-09-27%2021.44.08.png?dl=0 I know EAS is required to listen to a. An official FEMA internet site b. two AM/FM "primary" stations in our area. How can we set up some radios to ?listen? so that we don?t have to pay and extra $600 for a DASDEC-II w/o built in radios? Someone out there knows the best road ahead for us. We?d appreciate any help? Lanny KLLG ~ 97.9 FM Lanny Cotler, General Manager A Project of Little Lake Grange #670 Willits Hometown Radio?Low Power, High Energy P.O Box 820, Willits, CA 95490 707-367-1812 LANNY at KLLG.ORG From bame at riverrock.org Wed Sep 28 05:56:31 2016 From: bame at riverrock.org (Paul Bame) Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2016 08:56:31 -0400 Subject: [grc] Big tech question from new LPFM In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <37aa054d28fed8d60fad2c1693cd77f8@riverrock.org> Congrats on KLLG-LP! And getting an older EAS unit, which is better than no EAS even though it probably doesn't handle the newest stuff. If you cannot get the program-interrupt unit, a handy electronics person could probably make you one in a few hours, as I doubt it is much more than a couple of DPDT reed relays and resistors. A nice case and appearance would drive up the time and cost and I'd say is unnecessary since it is only temporary... "dead bug" construction and hot-melt glue could work fine. If you get the DASDEC unit you can save money by using free/cheap external radios which will tune the required monitoring stations. Ideally they'd also have an audio-out jack to make it easier to send the audio to the DASDEC without opening them up to wire in your own cable. I doubt there are many left but sometimes pawn shops have old component-stereo radio tuners for cheap, some of which can even be rack mounted. Just need to be sure that whatever radio is relatively stable in its tuning, and remembers what station it is on after power failure. -Paul (pablito) Bame Prometheus Radio Project On 2016-09-28 01:40, Lanny Cotler via grc wrote: > Our C.P. just became a full license. KLLG-LP is now on the air! In > ?test mode?, pumping our via VLC 15 prerecorded easy listening hours > with important ?messages? to our listeners. > > Our Studio A is two weeks away from completion, and that means live > programming from our ARC-8 console which is being gratefully borrowed > from a nearby sister station. > > This sister station has also generously loaned us their old EAS unit > until we can afford to buy our own. But we can?t use this borrowed > unit because the loaner forgot to include, or is still using, the TFT > 940A Transmitter/Program interrupt unit (or equivalent). > > What should we do? The company TFT is no longer in business. > > When we can afford it, we thinking of buying this unit: > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/bvq6mcgyso78rf3/Screenshot%202016-09-27%2021.44.08.png?dl=0 > > > I know EAS is required to listen to > a. An official FEMA internet site > b. two AM/FM "primary" stations in our area. > > How can we set up some radios to ?listen? so that we don?t have to pay > and extra $600 for a DASDEC-II w/o built in radios? > > Someone out there knows the best road ahead for us. > > We?d appreciate any help? > > > Lanny > > > > > > > > > > > KLLG ~ 97.9 FM > Lanny Cotler, General Manager > A Project of Little Lake Grange #670 > Willits Hometown Radio?Low Power, High Energy > P.O Box 820, Willits, CA 95490 > 707-367-1812 > LANNY at KLLG.ORG > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc From jeff at davismedia.org Wed Sep 28 12:29:47 2016 From: jeff at davismedia.org (Jeff Shaw) Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2016 12:29:47 -0700 Subject: [grc] Big tech question from new LPFM In-Reply-To: <37aa054d28fed8d60fad2c1693cd77f8@riverrock.org> References: <37aa054d28fed8d60fad2c1693cd77f8@riverrock.org> Message-ID: Hey Lanny- I saw this in Radio World, sounds like you can still reach out to Darryl Parker who used to work at TFT for advice, contact info in article: http://www.radioworld.com/article/parker-seeks-to-help-with-tft-service-needs/277463 Is KLLG still having a launch party October 20, open to public? Maybe some of the KMUD or other Nor Cal people want to stop by? congrats! Jeff On 9/28/16 5:56 AM, Paul Bame via grc wrote: > Congrats on KLLG-LP! > > And getting an older EAS unit, which is better than no EAS even though > it probably doesn't handle the newest stuff. > > If you cannot get the program-interrupt unit, a handy electronics person > could probably make you one in a few hours, as I doubt it is much more > than a couple of DPDT reed relays and resistors. A nice case and > appearance > would drive up the time and cost and I'd say is unnecessary since it is > only temporary... "dead bug" construction and hot-melt glue could work > fine. > > If you get the DASDEC unit you can save money by using free/cheap > external radios > which will tune the required monitoring stations. Ideally they'd also > have > an audio-out jack to make it easier to send the audio to the DASDEC > without > opening them up to wire in your own cable. I doubt there are many left > but > sometimes pawn shops have old component-stereo radio tuners for cheap, > some of > which can even be rack mounted. Just need to be sure that whatever > radio is > relatively stable in its tuning, and remembers what station it is on > after > power failure. > > -Paul (pablito) Bame > Prometheus Radio Project > > On 2016-09-28 01:40, Lanny Cotler via grc wrote: >> Our C.P. just became a full license. KLLG-LP is now on the air! In >> ?test mode?, pumping our via VLC 15 prerecorded easy listening hours >> with important ?messages? to our listeners. >> >> Our Studio A is two weeks away from completion, and that means live >> programming from our ARC-8 console which is being gratefully borrowed >> from a nearby sister station. >> >> This sister station has also generously loaned us their old EAS unit >> until we can afford to buy our own. But we can?t use this borrowed >> unit because the loaner forgot to include, or is still using, the TFT >> 940A Transmitter/Program interrupt unit (or equivalent). >> >> What should we do? The company TFT is no longer in business. >> >> When we can afford it, we thinking of buying this unit: >> >> https://www.dropbox.com/s/bvq6mcgyso78rf3/Screenshot%202016-09-27%2021.44.08.png?dl=0 >> >> >> >> >> I know EAS is required to listen to >> a. An official FEMA internet site >> b. two AM/FM "primary" stations in our area. >> >> How can we set up some radios to ?listen? so that we don?t have to pay >> and extra $600 for a DASDEC-II w/o built in radios? >> >> Someone out there knows the best road ahead for us. >> >> We?d appreciate any help? >> >> >> Lanny >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> KLLG ~ 97.9 FM >> Lanny Cotler, General Manager >> A Project of Little Lake Grange #670 >> Willits Hometown Radio?Low Power, High Energy >> P.O Box 820, Willits, CA 95490 >> 707-367-1812 >> LANNY at KLLG.ORG >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> grc mailing list >> grc at maillist.peak.org >> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc -- Production Manager, Davis Media Access Station Director, KDRT-LP "There is no future that is not built in the present" - Sanchez Gordillo From jeff at davismedia.org Wed Sep 28 12:32:42 2016 From: jeff at davismedia.org (Jeff Shaw) Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2016 12:32:42 -0700 Subject: [grc] Big tech question from new LPFM In-Reply-To: References: <37aa054d28fed8d60fad2c1693cd77f8@riverrock.org> Message-ID: <738fbcd6-c962-7418-f9cb-a8e077c42cf1@davismedia.org> Actually meant to send this article, more recent, helpful for those with TFT units: http://www.radioworld.com/article/are-your-tft-eas-units-in-compliance/279506 On 9/28/16 12:29 PM, Jeff Shaw wrote: > Hey Lanny- I saw this in Radio World, sounds like you can still reach > out to Darryl Parker who used to work at TFT for advice, contact info in > article: > http://www.radioworld.com/article/parker-seeks-to-help-with-tft-service-needs/277463 > > Is KLLG still having a launch party October 20, open to public? Maybe > some of the KMUD or other Nor Cal people want to stop by? > > congrats! > Jeff > > > On 9/28/16 5:56 AM, Paul Bame via grc wrote: >> Congrats on KLLG-LP! >> >> And getting an older EAS unit, which is better than no EAS even though >> it probably doesn't handle the newest stuff. >> >> If you cannot get the program-interrupt unit, a handy electronics person >> could probably make you one in a few hours, as I doubt it is much more >> than a couple of DPDT reed relays and resistors. A nice case and >> appearance >> would drive up the time and cost and I'd say is unnecessary since it is >> only temporary... "dead bug" construction and hot-melt glue could work >> fine. >> >> If you get the DASDEC unit you can save money by using free/cheap >> external radios >> which will tune the required monitoring stations. Ideally they'd also >> have >> an audio-out jack to make it easier to send the audio to the DASDEC >> without >> opening them up to wire in your own cable. I doubt there are many left >> but >> sometimes pawn shops have old component-stereo radio tuners for cheap, >> some of >> which can even be rack mounted. Just need to be sure that whatever >> radio is >> relatively stable in its tuning, and remembers what station it is on >> after >> power failure. >> >> -Paul (pablito) Bame >> Prometheus Radio Project >> >> On 2016-09-28 01:40, Lanny Cotler via grc wrote: >>> Our C.P. just became a full license. KLLG-LP is now on the air! In >>> ?test mode?, pumping our via VLC 15 prerecorded easy listening hours >>> with important ?messages? to our listeners. >>> >>> Our Studio A is two weeks away from completion, and that means live >>> programming from our ARC-8 console which is being gratefully borrowed >>> from a nearby sister station. >>> >>> This sister station has also generously loaned us their old EAS unit >>> until we can afford to buy our own. But we can?t use this borrowed >>> unit because the loaner forgot to include, or is still using, the TFT >>> 940A Transmitter/Program interrupt unit (or equivalent). >>> >>> What should we do? The company TFT is no longer in business. >>> >>> When we can afford it, we thinking of buying this unit: >>> >>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/bvq6mcgyso78rf3/Screenshot%202016-09-27%2021.44.08.png?dl=0 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> I know EAS is required to listen to >>> a. An official FEMA internet site >>> b. two AM/FM "primary" stations in our area. >>> >>> How can we set up some radios to ?listen? so that we don?t have to pay >>> and extra $600 for a DASDEC-II w/o built in radios? >>> >>> Someone out there knows the best road ahead for us. >>> >>> We?d appreciate any help? >>> >>> >>> Lanny >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> KLLG ~ 97.9 FM >>> Lanny Cotler, General Manager >>> A Project of Little Lake Grange #670 >>> Willits Hometown Radio?Low Power, High Energy >>> P.O Box 820, Willits, CA 95490 >>> 707-367-1812 >>> LANNY at KLLG.ORG >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> grc mailing list >>> grc at maillist.peak.org >>> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc >> _______________________________________________ >> grc mailing list >> grc at maillist.peak.org >> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > -- Production Manager, Davis Media Access Station Director, KDRT-LP "There is no future that is not built in the present" - Sanchez Gordillo From danny at wspj.org Thu Sep 29 16:09:20 2016 From: danny at wspj.org (Danny) Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 19:09:20 -0400 Subject: [grc] Using a digital stream as STL to LPFM transmitter site Message-ID: <002101d21aa6$83570fe0$8a052fa0$@wspj.org> Our LPFM transmitter site is 6+ miles from our studio without a clean line-of-sight because of hills. So, to save time and money, we've been expecting to use a pair of Barix boxes to move a digital stream from our studio to our transmitter. But a couple of our key people think we can skip using one or both Barix boxes. Specifically, the person who maintains the Icecast server that hosts our webcast feels confident he can create a second private stream of much higher quality that can take the place of the need for a Barix box at the studio end and another person thinks we can use a "headless internet radio player" on a Raspberry Pi instead of a Barix box at the transmitter site. He's looking at https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=43108 especially noting this setup has auto-run upon reboot, which is what we want. This is a key person of ours with lots of experience using the Raspberry Pi. Are one or both of them missing something with these suggestions? Will these be viable and reliable ways to avoid paying $1,200 for a pair of Barix boxes? Thanks! Danny WSPJ-LP Syracuse NY From will at prometheusradio.org Thu Sep 29 16:27:14 2016 From: will at prometheusradio.org (Will Floyd) Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 17:27:14 -0600 Subject: [grc] [Stubblefield] Using a digital stream as STL to LPFM transmitter site In-Reply-To: <002101d21aa6$83570fe0$8a052fa0$@wspj.org> References: <002101d21aa6$83570fe0$8a052fa0$@wspj.org> Message-ID: The Barix boxes are basically little computers that convert analog audio to digital or the opposite. So yes, another little computer like a Raspberry Pi or a big desktop can accomplish those tasks. The benefit of the Barix boxes is that they are easy to set up, and cheaper than other broadcast quality CODECs. It's unclear from your email if you are using a line of sight link or the Internet to connect your studio to the transmitter. Generally, a line of sight link is more desirable because it is a more direct path that is immune to problems with the wider Internet and more secure. It's worth noting that if you are using the Internet for the connection it might be worth looking into a CODEC with some additional features. On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 5:09 PM, Danny wrote: > Our LPFM transmitter site is 6+ miles from our studio without a clean > line-of-sight because of hills. So, to save time and money, we?ve been > expecting to use a pair of Barix boxes to move a digital stream from our > studio to our transmitter. But a couple of our key people think we can > skip using one or both Barix boxes. > > > > Specifically, the person who maintains the Icecast server that hosts our > webcast feels confident he can create a second private stream of much > higher quality that can take the place of the need for a Barix box at the > studio end and another person thinks we can use a ?headless internet radio > player? on a Raspberry Pi instead of a Barix box at the transmitter site. > He?s looking at https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=43108 > especially noting this setup has auto-run upon reboot, which is what we > want. This is a key person of ours with lots of experience using the > Raspberry Pi. > > > > Are one or both of them missing something with these suggestions? Will > these be viable and reliable ways to avoid paying $1,200 for a pair of > Barix boxes? > > > > Thanks! > > Danny > > WSPJ-LP Syracuse NY > > _______________________________________________ > This is the Stubblefield mailing list. > To post, send an email to: Stubblefield at lists.prometheusradio.org > For list options or to unsubscribe, please visit: > http://lists.prometheusradio.org/listinfo.cgi/stubblefield- > prometheusradio.org > > -- Will Floyd Technical Director | Prometheus Radio Project will at prometheusradio.org | 215.727.9620 x524 From danny at wspj.org Thu Sep 29 16:32:08 2016 From: danny at wspj.org (Danny) Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 19:32:08 -0400 Subject: [grc] [Stubblefield] Using a digital stream as STL to LPFM transmitter site In-Reply-To: References: <002101d21aa6$83570fe0$8a052fa0$@wspj.org> Message-ID: <003b01d21aa9$b28f0bc0$17ad2340$@wspj.org> If line of sight link means a dedicated internet connection between the 2 locations, then no. This will be an internet link with or without the Barix boxes. Our studio uses Verizon FIOS and the transmitter site Time Warner Roadrunner broadband. From: Stubblefield [mailto:stubblefield-bounces at lists.prometheusradio.org] On Behalf Of Will Floyd Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 7:27 PM To: Stubblefield Cc: GRC List Subject: Re: [Stubblefield] Using a digital stream as STL to LPFM transmitter site The Barix boxes are basically little computers that convert analog audio to digital or the opposite. So yes, another little computer like a Raspberry Pi or a big desktop can accomplish those tasks. The benefit of the Barix boxes is that they are easy to set up, and cheaper than other broadcast quality CODECs. It's unclear from your email if you are using a line of sight link or the Internet to connect your studio to the transmitter. Generally, a line of sight link is more desirable because it is a more direct path that is immune to problems with the wider Internet and more secure. It's worth noting that if you are using the Internet for the connection it might be worth looking into a CODEC with some additional features. On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 5:09 PM, Danny wrote: Our LPFM transmitter site is 6+ miles from our studio without a clean line-of-sight because of hills. So, to save time and money, we?ve been expecting to use a pair of Barix boxes to move a digital stream from our studio to our transmitter. But a couple of our key people think we can skip using one or both Barix boxes. Specifically, the person who maintains the Icecast server that hosts our webcast feels confident he can create a second private stream of much higher quality that can take the place of the need for a Barix box at the studio end and another person thinks we can use a ?headless internet radio player? on a Raspberry Pi instead of a Barix box at the transmitter site. He?s looking at https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=43108 especially noting this setup has auto-run upon reboot, which is what we want. This is a key person of ours with lots of experience using the Raspberry Pi. Are one or both of them missing something with these suggestions? Will these be viable and reliable ways to avoid paying $1,200 for a pair of Barix boxes? Thanks! Danny WSPJ-LP Syracuse NY _______________________________________________ This is the Stubblefield mailing list. To post, send an email to: Stubblefield at lists.prometheusradio.org For list options or to unsubscribe, please visit: http://lists.prometheusradio.org/listinfo.cgi/stubblefield-prometheusradio.org -- Will Floyd Technical Director | Prometheus Radio Project will at prometheusradio.org | 215.727.9620 x524 From danny at wspj.org Thu Sep 29 17:21:44 2016 From: danny at wspj.org (Danny) Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 20:21:44 -0400 Subject: [grc] [Stubblefield] Using a digital stream as STL to LPFM transmitter site In-Reply-To: References: <002101d21aa6$83570fe0$8a052fa0$@wspj.org> Message-ID: <004c01d21ab0$a2729430$e757bc90$@wspj.org> The Ubiquiti has always been our preferred option. But we?re building out both a LPFM and associated translator in tandem, with the CP for the latter expiring first, so we already have a very full plate. Plus, the hills are public parks, which greatly complicates that option. Our focus right now is saving both CPs and then making it all pretty later when we have more time and people will have a clearer sense what we?re up to. From: Stubblefield [mailto:stubblefield-bounces at lists.prometheusradio.org] On Behalf Of Bill Putney Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 7:35 PM To: stubblefield at lists.prometheusradio.org Subject: Re: [Stubblefield] Using a digital stream as STL to LPFM transmitter site If you can find a place up on the hill at someone's house or business to host a couple of Ubiquiti 5 GHz radios that would make a nicer STL transport than public Internet. Public Internet connections are prone to drops and outright failure. Not really something you want your listeners to have to put up with. If the Internet where you are is really good, it will work fine but a lot of times it isn't an it just makes everyone's life miserable. As for using an Icecast server at the studio end, that sounds fine. Use something like 256 Kbps AAC or another modern good sounding codec. Full CD rate PCM would be best and with a Ubiquiti link you have the bandwidth. I'd stay away from MP3 even at higher bit rates. People are going to want to bring in their crummy MP3 music to play on the air. A bad idea on several levels but if you have to skimp on the STL bandwidth and use an aggressive codec you really need to start worrying about the cascading codec's making a mess of the audio. It won't turn up in everything that gets played but when it does it'll like fingernails on a chalkboard. The Raspberry Pi has plenty of horsepower for the job. The audio interface on the Raspberry Pi isn't the greatest. It does have a USB port. Ask your software person if they can use a Pro-sumer USB to balanced audio interface with the Pi. If your transmitter has an AES input, you can use a really inexpensive USB to S/PDIF interface that will sound better than any analog interface. I ran our automation through a $35 module I bought on eBay when we started. Bits in/bits out. If it sync's up you can't go wrong. Bits to an analog waveform is a much harder thing to do right and it costs money to get it right. I don't think the Pi has S/PDIF out (heither the coaxial or optical-TOSLINK). It does have HDMI so the software does know most of the stuff it needs to know about S/PDIF. AES and S/PDIF are nearly identical protocols and the electrical differences are close enough to work if the connection is under a few feet. Bill Putney - WB6RFW Chief Engineer KPTZ - Port Townsend, WA PP-SEL/A&P-IA "...you know me to be a very smart man. Don't you think if I were wrong, I'd know it?" -Sheldon Cooper On 9/29/16 4:09 PM, Danny wrote: Our LPFM transmitter site is 6+ miles from our studio without a clean line-of-sight because of hills. So, to save time and money, we?ve been expecting to use a pair of Barix boxes to move a digital stream from our studio to our transmitter. But a couple of our key people think we can skip using one or both Barix boxes. Specifically, the person who maintains the Icecast server that hosts our webcast feels confident he can create a second private stream of much higher quality that can take the place of the need for a Barix box at the studio end and another person thinks we can use a ?headless internet radio player? on a Raspberry Pi instead of a Barix box at the transmitter site. He?s looking at https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=43108 especially noting this setup has auto-run upon reboot, which is what we want. This is a key person of ours with lots of experience using the Raspberry Pi. Are one or both of them missing something with these suggestions? Will these be viable and reliable ways to avoid paying $1,200 for a pair of Barix boxes? Thanks! Danny WSPJ-LP Syracuse NY _______________________________________________ This is the Stubblefield mailing list. To post, send an email to: Stubblefield at lists.prometheusradio.org For list options or to unsubscribe, please visit: http://lists.prometheusradio.org/listinfo.cgi/stubblefield-prometheusradio.org From dklann at wdrt.org Thu Sep 29 19:27:03 2016 From: dklann at wdrt.org (David Klann) Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 21:27:03 -0500 Subject: [grc] [Stubblefield] Using a digital stream as STL to LPFM transmitter site In-Reply-To: <004c01d21ab0$a2729430$e757bc90$@wspj.org> References: <002101d21aa6$83570fe0$8a052fa0$@wspj.org> <004c01d21ab0$a2729430$e757bc90$@wspj.org> Message-ID: <16e0c64c-5427-9c1b-f611-b91e56eae568@wdrt.org> I set up a pair of purpose-built PC's running liquidsoap as the digital transport between the studio and transmitter site for WDRT, Viroqua, WI. The connection has been running for a just shy of six years without interruption except for accidental cable cuts (twice) of the fiber between the two locations. But liquidsoap reconnected when physical connectivity was restored. With appropriately-sized UPS these boxes can run until the electronics give up. The "uptime" on the transmitter end of WDRT's STL is currently: 21:20:20 up 2145 days, 22:07, 1 user, load average: 0.59, 0.48, 0.39 (The studio end has less reliable power and has a lower "uptime".) It didn't take much to build the operating system (linux) to do this. There's nothing running that does anything automatically except for the liquidsoap process that transports the audio from studio to transmitter. In the (unlikely) event of a power interruption, the boxes simply restart and pick up where they left off. I've since refined the operating system and have an appliance that I'd be happy to share with anyone that's interested. Most of the work is on the github site at https://github.com/opensourceradio/stl ~David Klann Broadcast Tool & Die On 09/29/2016 07:21 PM, Danny via grc wrote: > The Ubiquiti has always been our preferred option. But we?re building out both a LPFM and associated translator in tandem, with the CP for the latter expiring first, so we already have a very full plate. Plus, the hills are public parks, which greatly complicates that option. Our focus right now is saving both CPs and then making it all pretty later when we have more time and people will have a clearer sense what we?re up to. > > > > From: Stubblefield [mailto:stubblefield-bounces at lists.prometheusradio.org] On Behalf Of Bill Putney > Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 7:35 PM > To: stubblefield at lists.prometheusradio.org > Subject: Re: [Stubblefield] Using a digital stream as STL to LPFM transmitter site > > > > If you can find a place up on the hill at someone's house or business to host a couple of Ubiquiti 5 GHz radios that would make a nicer STL transport than public Internet. Public Internet connections are prone to drops and outright failure. Not really something you want your listeners to have to put up with. If the Internet where you are is really good, it will work fine but a lot of times it isn't an it just makes everyone's life miserable. > > As for using an Icecast server at the studio end, that sounds fine. Use something like 256 Kbps AAC or another modern good sounding codec. Full CD rate PCM would be best and with a Ubiquiti link you have the bandwidth. I'd stay away from MP3 even at higher bit rates. People are going to want to bring in their crummy MP3 music to play on the air. A bad idea on several levels but if you have to skimp on the STL bandwidth and use an aggressive codec you really need to start worrying about the cascading codec's making a mess of the audio. It won't turn up in everything that gets played but when it does it'll like fingernails on a chalkboard. > > The Raspberry Pi has plenty of horsepower for the job. The audio interface on the Raspberry Pi isn't the greatest. It does have a USB port. Ask your software person if they can use a Pro-sumer USB to balanced audio interface with the Pi. If your transmitter has an AES input, you can use a really inexpensive USB to S/PDIF interface that will sound better than any analog interface. I ran our automation through a $35 module I bought on eBay when we started. Bits in/bits out. If it sync's up you can't go wrong. Bits to an analog waveform is a much harder thing to do right and it costs money to get it right. > > I don't think the Pi has S/PDIF out (heither the coaxial or optical-TOSLINK). It does have HDMI so the software does know most of the stuff it needs to know about S/PDIF. AES and S/PDIF are nearly identical protocols and the electrical differences are close enough to work if the connection is under a few feet. > > Bill Putney - WB6RFW > Chief Engineer > KPTZ - Port Townsend, WA > > PP-SEL/A&P-IA > > "...you know me to be a very smart man. Don't you think if I were wrong, I'd know it?" -Sheldon Cooper > > > On 9/29/16 4:09 PM, Danny wrote: > > Our LPFM transmitter site is 6+ miles from our studio without a clean line-of-sight because of hills. So, to save time and money, we?ve been expecting to use a pair of Barix boxes to move a digital stream from our studio to our transmitter. But a couple of our key people think we can skip using one or both Barix boxes. > > > > Specifically, the person who maintains the Icecast server that hosts our webcast feels confident he can create a second private stream of much higher quality that can take the place of the need for a Barix box at the studio end and another person thinks we can use a ?headless internet radio player? on a Raspberry Pi instead of a Barix box at the transmitter site. He?s looking at https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=43108 especially noting this setup has auto-run upon reboot, which is what we want. This is a key person of ours with lots of experience using the Raspberry Pi. > > > > Are one or both of them missing something with these suggestions? Will these be viable and reliable ways to avoid paying $1,200 for a pair of Barix boxes? > > > > Thanks! > > Danny > > WSPJ-LP Syracuse NY > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > This is the Stubblefield mailing list. > To post, send an email to: Stubblefield at lists.prometheusradio.org > For list options or to unsubscribe, please visit: http://lists.prometheusradio.org/listinfo.cgi/stubblefield-prometheusradio.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Will you also say that we offer group rates, and please get in touch with Attachment 11:05 am Not starred Important mainly because of the people in the conversation. Click to teach Gmail this conversation is not important. Zac, me (2), Michelle, 10:03 am, For Michelle, just a personal thanks, as she doesnt have a business so much as a practice, which is sort-of a private matter. I'd say we name the committee in the program, just so they'll know. Zac, me (2) Michelle - For Michelle, just a personal thanks, as she doesnt have a business so much as a practice, which is sort-of a private matter. I'd say we name the committee in the program, just so they'll know 10:03 am Starred Important mainly because of the people in the conversation. Click to teach Gmail this conversation is not important. starred, Jeffrey, me (2), 93 cents, 9:53 am, Hi Karen, just wanted to remind you to add the $0.93 to my check for this week. I think it was for cukes in August. Jeff. 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Click to teach Gmail this conversation is not important. me, Nan (4), GRC volunteer sign up, Sep 29, Thanks. The artist's working life is marked by intense application and intense discipline. ~ John F. Kennedy ~ On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 1:23 PM, Karen Holcomb wrote: I. me, Nan (4) GRC volunteer sign up - Thanks. The artist's working life is marked by intense application and intense discipline. ~ John F. Kennedy ~ On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 1:23 PM, Karen Holcomb wrote: I Sep 29 Not starred Important mainly because it was sent directly to you. Click to teach Gmail this conversation is not important. Zac, me (4), Volunteer list, Sep 29, Done. On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 10:53 AM, Zac & Cheryl wrote: You can remove Wine Rack from the list. That should get made tomorrow by Josh Williams who has. Zac, me (4) Volunteer list - Done. On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 10:53 AM, Zac & Cheryl wrote: You can remove Wine Rack from the list. That should get made tomorrow by Josh Williams who has Sep 29 Not starred Important mainly because of the people in the conversation. Click to teach Gmail this conversation is not important. Cheryl Roorda, Grassroots Radio Conference 2016, Sep 29, Good Morning DJ's! The Grassroots Radio Conference. Let me just take a minute and explain what a crazy thing this is! You know how the FCC offered a two week window to apply for an LPFM station in. Cheryl Roorda Grassroots Radio Conference 2016 - Good Morning DJ's! The Grassroots Radio Conference. Let me just take a minute and explain what a crazy thing this is! You know how the FCC offered a two week window to apply for an LPFM station in Sep 29 Not starred Important mainly because of the people in the conversation. Click to teach Gmail this conversation is not important. Zac, me (2), Underwriting Spots, Sep 29, WOOHOOO!!!! You guys could rule the world. On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 9:51 AM, Zac & Cheryl wrote: Add Clayton Blackstock and his law firm to the list. They just. Zac, me (2) Underwriting Spots - WOOHOOO!!!! You guys could rule the world. On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 9:51 AM, Zac & Cheryl wrote: Add Clayton Blackstock and his law firm to the list. They just Sep 29 Not starred Important mainly because of the people in the conversation. Click to teach Gmail this conversation is not important. Sharon Scott, ARTxFM, Saturday's Keynote: Clyde Clifford, Sep 29, Hey GRC Friends~ Getting so excited about seeing everyone at GRC! Can't believe it's happening so soon! Congrats to everyone - esp those on the ground in Hot Springs - for pulling this together. Sharon Scott, ARTxFM Saturday's Keynote: Clyde Clifford - Hey GRC Friends~ Getting so excited about seeing everyone at GRC! Can't believe it's happening so soon! Congrats to everyone - esp those on the ground in Hot Springs - for pulling this together Sep 29 Not starred Important mainly because of the people in the conversation. Click to teach Gmail this conversation is not important. Zac & Cheryl, Underwriter spots, Sep 29, Here is our list, and I have asked Leslie to tell me which ones she has worked on, but probably none of these: Superior Bathhouse Wine Rack Kollective Coffee Red Light Roastery Springs Hotel Maxwell. Zac & Cheryl Underwriter spots - Here is our list, and I have asked Leslie to tell me which ones she has worked on, but probably none of these: Superior Bathhouse Wine Rack Kollective Coffee Red Light Roastery Springs Hotel Maxwell Sep 29 Not starred Important mainly because of the people in the conversation. Click to teach Gmail this conversation is not important. Nicola, me (2), from Nico, has attachments, Sep 29, Szia Nico, Your photos look like Springtime, the pretty flowers, the blue skies. Margit Segit is so lovely. Its like Central Park in NY, an oasis in the busy city. Our weather here is gorgeous right. Nicola, me (2) from Nico - Szia Nico, Your photos look like Springtime, the pretty flowers, the blue skies. Margit Segit is so lovely. Its like Central Park in NY, an oasis in the busy city. Our weather here is gorgeous right Attachment Sep 29 Not starred Click to teach Gmail this conversation is important. Rubberstamps.net Notific., Rate your purchase at RubberStamps.net, Sep 28, Review your Trodat 4927 ? Karen Holcomb, Thank you for doing business with www.rubberstamps.net. Your opinions are important to us, and we would love to hear your thoughts on your recent purchase! It. Rubberstamps.net Notific. Rate your purchase at RubberStamps.net - Review your Trodat 4927 ? Karen Holcomb, Thank you for doing business with www.rubberstamps.net. Your opinions are important to us, and we would love to hear your thoughts on your recent purchase! 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Lanny Cotler via grc (4), [grc] Big tech question from new LPFM, Sep 28, Actually meant to send this article, more recent, helpful for those with TFT units: http://www.radioworld.com/article/are-your-tft-eas-units-in-compliance/279506 On 9/28/16 12:29 PM, Jeff Shaw wrote:. Lanny Cotler via grc (4) [grc] Big tech question from new LPFM - Actually meant to send this article, more recent, helpful for those with TFT units: http://www.radioworld.com/article/are-your-tft-eas-units-in-compliance/279506 On 9/28/16 12:29 PM, Jeff Shaw wrote: Sep 28 Not starred Important mainly because it was sent directly to you. Click to teach Gmail this conversation is not important. Cheryl, me (5), Meeting tonight, Sep 28, FYI, Leslie is not coming. She has a head cold she doesn't want to share, and I thank her for that. She says Gabe has actually been pretty sick, so none of us need that. See you tonight, Cheryl On. Cheryl, me (5) Meeting tonight - FYI, Leslie is not coming. 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Nan, me (4), Friday's market, Sep 28, I think we'll be home then. Wanna have lunch? On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 9:27 AM, Nan Cameron wrote: Cannot thank you enough. Mixed emotions re Toshka. Have made no. Nan, me (4) Friday's market - I think we'll be home then. Wanna have lunch? On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 9:27 AM, Nan Cameron wrote: Cannot thank you enough. Mixed emotions re Toshka. Have made no Sep 28 Not starred Important mainly because of the people in the conversation. Click to teach Gmail this conversation is not important. Melinda, Fwd: It?s a Coupon Bonanza!, Sep 28, coupon below for 60% off one art item?.. today only Begin forwarded message: From: "Michaels" Subject: It's a Coupon Bonanza! Date: September 28, 2016. Melinda Fwd: It?s a Coupon Bonanza! - coupon below for 60% off one art item?.. today only Begin forwarded message: From: "Michaels" Subject: It's a Coupon Bonanza! Date: September 28, 2016 Sep 28 Not starred Important mainly because of your interaction with messages in the conversation. Click to teach Gmail this conversation is not important. me, Frieda (6), GRC 2016 is coming up fast!!, Sep 28, Yes, there's a schedule on the website, www.grc2016.net. Click on the 'schedule' button on the right at the blue bar at the top of the webpage. On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 12:37 AM, Frieda. me, Frieda (6) GRC 2016 is coming up fast!! - Yes, there's a schedule on the website, www.grc2016.net. Click on the 'schedule' button on the right at the blue bar at the top of the webpage. On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 12:37 AM, Frieda Sep 28 Not starred Important mainly because it was sent directly to you. Click to teach Gmail this conversation is not important. me, Dianne (2), letters, Sep 27, Spectacular news My Darling! Will be here on my knees praying we see the best qualified candidate wins. Will keep my schedule open and look forward to seeing you and Bob and reading those letters. Have. me, Dianne (2) letters - Spectacular news My Darling! Will be here on my knees praying we see the best qualified candidate wins. Will keep my schedule open and look forward to seeing you and Bob and reading those letters. Have Sep 27 Not starred Click to teach Gmail this conversation is important. Other Events in our Area, Broadway Bridge Closing 9/28, Sep 27, To view this email as a web page, go here. DESIGN FACEBOOK_LOGO FOLLOW_US_ON_TWITTER Facebook Share This Email on Facebook Twitter Share This Email on Twitter The Broadway Bridge, which has served as. Other Events in our Area Broadway Bridge Closing 9/28 - To view this email as a web page, go here. DESIGN FACEBOOK_LOGO FOLLOW_US_ON_TWITTER Facebook Share This Email on Facebook Twitter Share This Email on Twitter The Broadway Bridge, which has served as Sep 27 Not starred Important mainly because of the people in the conversation. Click to teach Gmail this conversation is not important. spacity (4), Spa City Local Farm Market Co-op Order Processed, Sep 27, Spa City Local Farm Market Co-op Erin Holliday 501-655-0836 339 Ozark Hot Springs AR 71901 Order Number: 582081 Date Ordered: September 27, 2016 You can see the details of this order at any time on the. spacity (4) Spa City Local Farm Market Co-op Order Processed - Spa City Local Farm Market Co-op Erin Holliday 501-655-0836 339 Ozark Hot Springs AR 71901 Order Number: 582081 Date Ordered: September 27, 2016 You can see the details of this order at any time on the Sep 27 Not starred Click to teach Gmail this conversation is important. Health Star Physicians -., Please Confirm Your Appointment with Health Star Physicians - Lake Hamilton Family Medi..., Sep 27, Health Star Physicians - Lake Hamilton Family Medicine 1661 Airport Rd Suite F Hot Springs, AR 71913 (501) 651-4300 veronica at healthstarphysicians.com Visit our website You have an upcoming appointment. 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On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 2:14 PM, Carole Katchen wrote: Most of you saw the painting I started of our Sep 27 Not starred Click to teach Gmail this conversation is important. unread, Fidelity Investments, *Viewpoints: Manage taxes in retirement*, *Sep 27*, Taxes in retirement, Social Security, estate planning, and more View in a browser FIDELITY VIEWPOINTS ? MONTHLY EDITION: September 2016 FIDELITY VIEWPOINTS ? MONTHLY EDITION: September 2016 Manage. Fidelity Investments *Viewpoints: Manage taxes in retirement* - Taxes in retirement, Social Security, estate planning, and more View in a browser FIDELITY VIEWPOINTS ? MONTHLY EDITION: September 2016 FIDELITY VIEWPOINTS ? MONTHLY EDITION: September 2016 Manage *Sep 27* Not starred Important mainly because of your interaction with messages in the conversation. Click to teach Gmail this conversation is not important. Melinda .. Eddy, me (11), Sale, has attachments, Sep 27, Great opener, Carole. 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Click to teach Gmail this conversation is not important. spacity (4), Spa City Local Farm Market Co-op Order Processed, Sep 26, Spa City Local Farm Market Co-op Jody Sprague 501-625-3274 cell 802-3469 119 Marble St Hot Springs AR 71901 Order Number: 581965 Date Ordered: September 27, 2016 You can see the details of this order. spacity (4) Spa City Local Farm Market Co-op Order Processed - Spa City Local Farm Market Co-op Jody Sprague 501-625-3274 cell 802-3469 119 Marble St Hot Springs AR 71901 Order Number: 581965 Date Ordered: September 27, 2016 You can see the details of this order Sep 26 Not starred Important mainly because of the people in the conversation. Click to teach Gmail this conversation is not important. me, Susanna (2), Today's class work, Sep 26, Good job! ?????? Do more of these! After I got off the phone with you I heard from one of the psych profs I did work for over the years and he asked me to work on a couple of black and white. me, Susanna (2) Today's class work - Good job! ?????? Do more of these! After I got off the phone with you I heard from one of the psych profs I did work for over the years and he asked me to work on a couple of black and white Sep 26 Not starred Important mainly because of the people in the conversation. Click to teach Gmail this conversation is not important. Zac, Leslie (2), Fwd: Brown Paper Tickets? Promotional Help - Grassroots Radio Conference 2016 (2591360), has attachments, Sep 26, There are a few that might be worth sending it to, if someone wants to tackle it. But, fyi, I've already sent the press release to the following: the Democrat-Gazette (which oddly isn't on. Zac, Leslie (2) Fwd: Brown Paper Tickets? Promotional Help - Grassroots Radio Conference 2016 (2591360) - There are a few that might be worth sending it to, if someone wants to tackle it. But, fyi, I've already sent the press release to the following: the Democrat-Gazette (which oddly isn't on Attachment Sep 26 Not starred Important mainly because of the people in the conversation. Click to teach Gmail this conversation is not important. Zac, me (3), GRC Budget., has attachments, Sep 26, Kern, Get me those receipts, (we are here all day, every day!) and we will reimburse you. Got an active GRC expense file going now?.. Also, just ordered two 30 cup percolators off amazon, wondering if. Zac, me (3) GRC Budget. - Kern, Get me those receipts, (we are here all day, every day!) and we will reimburse you. Got an active GRC expense file going now?.. Also, just ordered two 30 cup percolators off amazon, wondering if Attachment Sep 26 Not starred Important mainly because of the people in the conversation. Click to teach Gmail this conversation is not important. me, Nan (2), market is open, Sep 26, Marked. We need to talk about Thanksgiving. Our market is scheduled for the day after Thanksgiving. I've had the attic fan on, too. My toes are cold. Had forgotten what that feels like. Barriers. me, Nan (2) market is open - Marked. We need to talk about Thanksgiving. Our market is scheduled for the day after Thanksgiving. I've had the attic fan on, too. My toes are cold. Had forgotten what that feels like. Barriers Sep 26 Not starred Important mainly because of the people in the conversation. Click to teach Gmail this conversation is not important. Zac, Betty, Michelle (8), Logistics Page, Sep 25, Now you need to invite people who you want to have access to this group. =m On 9/25/2016 4:41 PM, Zac & Cheryl wrote: Lets try this again: GRC Logistics 2016 Private group. I am the admin. Is that. Zac, Betty, Michelle (8) Logistics Page - Now you need to invite people who you want to have access to this group. =m On 9/25/2016 4:41 PM, Zac & Cheryl wrote: Lets try this again: GRC Logistics 2016 Private group. I am the admin. Is that Sep 25 Not starred Important mainly because it was sent directly to you. Click to teach Gmail this conversation is not important. me, Cheryl (2), updates, Sep 25, Oh, perfect!! Swag bag stuffers, I'm IN! Coffee/tea, I think we got it covered. Talked to Adam Moore and we should be able to cover it with his gear our gear, and he is gonna give us coffee. My. me, Cheryl (2) updates - Oh, perfect!! Swag bag stuffers, I'm IN! Coffee/tea, I think we got it covered. Talked to Adam Moore and we should be able to cover it with his gear our gear, and he is gonna give us coffee. My Sep 25 Not starred Important mainly because of the people in the conversation. Click to teach Gmail this conversation is not important. Simon Frech via grc, [grc] Job opening: KMUD Membership Coordinator, Sep 25, Posting on behalf of our new Station Manager, Cynthia Click Redwood Community Radio in Redway, California is seeking to hire a Membership Coordinator. Membership Coordinator Job Description Job Title:. Simon Frech via grc [grc] Job opening: KMUD Membership Coordinator - Posting on behalf of our new Station Manager, Cynthia Click Redwood Community Radio in Redway, California is seeking to hire a Membership Coordinator. Membership Coordinator Job Description Job Title: Sep 25 Not starred Important mainly because of the people in the conversation. Click to teach Gmail this conversation is not important. Caitlin Reading, vacation message, Sep 24, Hi again, I will be away from my laptop but available by phone thru mid day Tuesday. The vacation notification is programmed to start Monday and extend until after I am home and settled- I will turn it. 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Deals, offers and other marketing emails will be shown here. To add or remove tabs click inbox settings. Collapse all Expand all Print all In new window First things first Important mainly because it was sent directly to you. Click to teach Gmail this conversation is not important. Inbox x Cheryl Roorda So, the volunteer signup page is: http://www.signupgenius.com/go/4090948aaa82... Sep 29 (1 day ago) So, the volunteer signup page is: http://www.signupgenius.com/go/4090948aaa82... 8 older messages Cheryl Roorda Okay. Take this. Zephyr, (501)-762-2638 Eureka (501)-802-5956 Zephyr is more ... 10:46 AM (28 minutes ago) Okay. Take this. Zephyr, (501)-762-2638 Eureka (501)-802-5956 Zephyr is more ... Cheryl Roorda 10:46 AM (28 minutes ago) to me Okay. Take this. Zephyr, (501)-762-2638 Eureka (501)-802-5956 Zephyr is more responsive than Eureka, but I will make sure they have your cell number. Honestly, they like texting. I?m glad you text now. I have a bag here at the studio in my office with their overnight gear. So, after you get them, you could swing by and let them run in here and grab it. They know all the codes to make that happen. Thanks so much! Cheryl > On Sep 30, 2016, at 10:22 AM, Karen Holcomb > wrote: > > Bob's going on air? Oh, you mean the interview with Wade at KABF. > That's a week from today, the 7th, 9 am. > > And no, I don't have either kids cell numbers. And yes! they can stay > the night, which is the best idea. I'll get them both whenever they ask. > > > > On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 9:35 AM, Cheryl Roorda > wrote: > > When does bob go on air? > >> On Sep 30, 2016, at 9:16 AM, Karen Holcomb > > wrote: >> >> Thanks Shurl. >> >> I read Tolly the ad I'd written, and he (sort-of) said ok. But >> that ad didn't mention GRC. Do all these ads need to do so? >> >> I'll go retrieve Eureka whenever she wants, but do I leave Zman >> there by himself til later? >> >> Kern >> >> On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 9:12 AM, Cheryl Roorda >> > wrote: >> >> I wrote Michelle Crandall and told her about the volunteer >> matrix, so she can now sign up if she wants to. >> Noted about the program. Can you think of anyone that isn?t a >> formal business that would get miffed if they didn?t get that >> program mention (that they will never see!) >> You would have talked to Tolly at Maxwell Blade, and he has >> so far produced (kind of poorly i might add) all the blade >> advertising so far. >> Anyway, another spot thanking him specifically for hosting >> the gRC would be good, and I am clear from tolly to do such a >> thing. >> >> Shirl >> >> Oh, and call me later about the kids tonight. Eureka has >> moved her time that she can tolerate Hot Water Hills to 7:30. >> That girl. >> We can talk about it. >> Shirl >> >>> On Sep 29, 2016, at 2:54 PM, Karen Holcomb >>> > wrote: >>> >>> Yes, I'd add Nan, as she's familiar with Facebook and loves >>> to connect with others. >>> >>> BTW! Last night you said to contact Michelle Crandall and >>> tell her----?. I didn't write it down and now of course >>> don't remember. We need to be sure Leslie has her on a list >>> of folks in the community to thank in the program, not >>> mentioning her donation. We should also snail mail her a >>> thank you afterward. I'll do that, as she's going to be moving. >>> >>> Have written a spot for the Steinhaus Keller and one for Max >>> Blade, but when I called to get hours of operation, etc, for >>> him, his manager sounded dubious, and said they already had >>> a radio spot. >>> >>> Onward, thus the fog... >>> Kern >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> On Sep 29, 2016, at 1:45 PM, Cheryl Roorda >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> Yeah, I let Rachel Brill in. Should I delete her? IS that >>>> gonna get on her nerves? >>>> Bob is already in the group, fyi, it is specifically called >>>> ?GRC LOGISTICS 2016? >>>> >>>> Should I add Nan? We need connectors on this. >>>> >>>> Shirl >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Sep 29, 2016, at 11:12 AM, Karen Holcomb >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Good work, Shurl. >>>>> >>>>> I've requested to join the group, but I think my computer >>>>> may have told FB that I'm Rachel Brill, our housesitter, >>>>> who's ID keeps showing up on my machine for email, etc. >>>>> Will have Bob work on that, but if you see that Rachel is >>>>> requesting to be added to the group, that's me. >>>>> >>>>> Nan likes to solve other people's problems as long as they >>>>> don't cost her money or too much time after dark. >>>>> >>>>> grrrr.... raging against the machine.... >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 8:05 AM, Cheryl Roorda >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>> So, the volunteer signup page is: >>>>> >>>>> http://www.signupgenius.com/go/4090948aaa82ea4ff2-grassroots >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Check it out! So, actually, the slots aren?t >>>>> populating that well, but I just put it up yesterday >>>>> afternoon, so it will be fine. Let me know if you see >>>>> more things I can add. I will do it!! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Secondly. The GRC Logistics 2016 Facebook page link is: >>>>> >>>>> https://www.facebook.com/groups/1164825203579403/members/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> and it is a private page you have to ask to join, so >>>>> it is really only for conference attendees and helpful >>>>> locals. >>>>> >>>>> So share that with anyone with needs that you hear of. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> can you think of anyone that should be added? I have >>>>> Erin Holliday, um, Shea, other great connectors?..who >>>>> are the people who like to solve other peoples problems? >>>>> >>>>> And I think this morning, I will take care of the >>>>> press needs, and I will ask Leslie who else needs a >>>>> script. >>>>> >>>>> Back at ya soon, >>>>> Shirl >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >> >> > > Reply Forward Karen Holcomb 10:52 AM (22 minutes ago) to Cheryl Yer welcome. Drive safe tonight. On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 10:46 AM, Cheryl Roorda > wrote: Okay. Take this. Zephyr, (501)-762-2638 Eureka (501)-802-5956 Zephyr is more responsive than Eureka, but I will make sure they have your cell number. Honestly, they like texting. I?m glad you text now. I have a bag here at the studio in my office with their overnight gear. So, after you get them, you could swing by and let them run in here and grab it. They know all the codes to make that happen. Thanks so much! Cheryl > On Sep 30, 2016, at 10:22 AM, Karen Holcomb > wrote: > > Bob's going on air? Oh, you mean the interview with Wade at > KABF. That's a week from today, the 7th, 9 am. > > And no, I don't have either kids cell numbers. And yes! they can > stay the night, which is the best idea. I'll get them both > whenever they ask. > > > > On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 9:35 AM, Cheryl Roorda > > wrote: > > When does bob go on air? > >> On Sep 30, 2016, at 9:16 AM, Karen Holcomb >> > wrote: >> >> Thanks Shurl. >> >> I read Tolly the ad I'd written, and he (sort-of) said ok. >> But that ad didn't mention GRC. Do all these ads need to do so? >> >> I'll go retrieve Eureka whenever she wants, but do I leave >> Zman there by himself til later? >> >> Kern >> >> On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 9:12 AM, Cheryl Roorda >> > wrote: >> >> I wrote Michelle Crandall and told her about the >> volunteer matrix, so she can now sign up if she wants to. >> Noted about the program. Can you think of anyone that >> isn?t a formal business that would get miffed if they >> didn?t get that program mention (that they will never see!) >> You would have talked to Tolly at Maxwell Blade, and he >> has so far produced (kind of poorly i might add) all the >> blade advertising so far. >> Anyway, another spot thanking him specifically for >> hosting the gRC would be good, and I am clear from tolly >> to do such a thing. >> >> Shirl >> >> Oh, and call me later about the kids tonight. Eureka has >> moved her time that she can tolerate Hot Water Hills to >> 7:30. That girl. >> We can talk about it. >> Shirl >> >>> On Sep 29, 2016, at 2:54 PM, Karen Holcomb >>> > wrote: >>> >>> Yes, I'd add Nan, as she's familiar with Facebook and >>> loves to connect with others. >>> >>> BTW! Last night you said to contact Michelle Crandall >>> and tell her----?. I didn't write it down and now of >>> course don't remember. We need to be sure Leslie has >>> her on a list of folks in the community to thank in the >>> program, not mentioning her donation. We should also >>> snail mail her a thank you afterward. I'll do that, as >>> she's going to be moving. >>> >>> Have written a spot for the Steinhaus Keller and one for >>> Max Blade, but when I called to get hours of operation, >>> etc, for him, his manager sounded dubious, and said they >>> already had a radio spot. >>> >>> Onward, thus the fog... >>> Kern >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> On Sep 29, 2016, at 1:45 PM, Cheryl Roorda >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> Yeah, I let Rachel Brill in. Should I delete her? IS >>>> that gonna get on her nerves? >>>> Bob is already in the group, fyi, it is specifically >>>> called ?GRC LOGISTICS 2016? >>>> >>>> Should I add Nan? We need connectors on this. >>>> >>>> Shirl >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Sep 29, 2016, at 11:12 AM, Karen Holcomb >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Good work, Shurl. >>>>> >>>>> I've requested to join the group, but I think my >>>>> computer may have told FB that I'm Rachel Brill, our >>>>> housesitter, who's ID keeps showing up on my machine >>>>> for email, etc. Will have Bob work on that, but if >>>>> you see that Rachel is requesting to be added to the >>>>> group, that's me. >>>>> >>>>> Nan likes to solve other people's problems as long as >>>>> they don't cost her money or too much time after dark. >>>>> >>>>> grrrr.... raging against the machine.... >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 8:05 AM, Cheryl Roorda >>>>> > >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> So, the volunteer signup page is: >>>>> >>>>> http://www.signupgenius.com/go/4090948aaa82ea4ff2-grassroots >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Check it out! So, actually, the slots aren?t >>>>> populating that well, but I just put it up >>>>> yesterday afternoon, so it will be fine. Let me >>>>> know if you see more things I can add. I will do it!! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Secondly. The GRC Logistics 2016 Facebook page >>>>> link is: >>>>> >>>>> https://www.facebook.com/groups/1164825203579403/members/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> and it is a private page you have to ask to join, >>>>> so it is really only for conference attendees and >>>>> helpful locals. >>>>> >>>>> So share that with anyone with needs that you hear of. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> can you think of anyone that should be added? I >>>>> have Erin Holliday, um, Shea, other great >>>>> connectors?..who are the people who like to solve >>>>> other peoples problems? >>>>> >>>>> And I think this morning, I will take care of the >>>>> press needs, and I will ask Leslie who else needs >>>>> a script. >>>>> >>>>> Back at ya soon, >>>>> Shirl >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >> >> > > Reply Forward Karen Holcomb 10:56 AM (18 minutes ago) to Cheryl One other thing - You mentioned another press release I was supposed to post to the GRC list-serve with the news that there would be no upcharge for late reg. Did you or Leslie send that and I missed it? If not, should I just make one? On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 10:46 AM, Cheryl Roorda > wrote: Okay. Take this. Zephyr, (501)-762-2638 Eureka (501)-802-5956 Zephyr is more responsive than Eureka, but I will make sure they have your cell number. Honestly, they like texting. I?m glad you text now. I have a bag here at the studio in my office with their overnight gear. So, after you get them, you could swing by and let them run in here and grab it. They know all the codes to make that happen. Thanks so much! Cheryl > On Sep 30, 2016, at 10:22 AM, Karen Holcomb > wrote: > > Bob's going on air? Oh, you mean the interview with Wade at > KABF. That's a week from today, the 7th, 9 am. > > And no, I don't have either kids cell numbers. And yes! they can > stay the night, which is the best idea. I'll get them both > whenever they ask. > > > > On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 9:35 AM, Cheryl Roorda > > wrote: > > When does bob go on air? > >> On Sep 30, 2016, at 9:16 AM, Karen Holcomb >> > wrote: >> >> Thanks Shurl. >> >> I read Tolly the ad I'd written, and he (sort-of) said ok. >> But that ad didn't mention GRC. Do all these ads need to do so? >> >> I'll go retrieve Eureka whenever she wants, but do I leave >> Zman there by himself til later? >> >> Kern >> >> On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 9:12 AM, Cheryl Roorda >> > wrote: >> >> I wrote Michelle Crandall and told her about the >> volunteer matrix, so she can now sign up if she wants to. >> Noted about the program. Can you think of anyone that >> isn?t a formal business that would get miffed if they >> didn?t get that program mention (that they will never see!) >> You would have talked to Tolly at Maxwell Blade, and he >> has so far produced (kind of poorly i might add) all the >> blade advertising so far. >> Anyway, another spot thanking him specifically for >> hosting the gRC would be good, and I am clear from tolly >> to do such a thing. >> >> Shirl >> >> Oh, and call me later about the kids tonight. Eureka has >> moved her time that she can tolerate Hot Water Hills to >> 7:30. That girl. >> We can talk about it. >> Shirl >> >>> On Sep 29, 2016, at 2:54 PM, Karen Holcomb >>> > wrote: >>> >>> Yes, I'd add Nan, as she's familiar with Facebook and >>> loves to connect with others. >>> >>> BTW! Last night you said to contact Michelle Crandall >>> and tell her----?. I didn't write it down and now of >>> course don't remember. We need to be sure Leslie has >>> her on a list of folks in the community to thank in the >>> program, not mentioning her donation. We should also >>> snail mail her a thank you afterward. I'll do that, as >>> she's going to be moving. >>> >>> Have written a spot for the Steinhaus Keller and one for >>> Max Blade, but when I called to get hours of operation, >>> etc, for him, his manager sounded dubious, and said they >>> already had a radio spot. >>> >>> Onward, thus the fog... >>> Kern >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> On Sep 29, 2016, at 1:45 PM, Cheryl Roorda >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> Yeah, I let Rachel Brill in. Should I delete her? IS >>>> that gonna get on her nerves? >>>> Bob is already in the group, fyi, it is specifically >>>> called ?GRC LOGISTICS 2016? >>>> >>>> Should I add Nan? We need connectors on this. >>>> >>>> Shirl >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Sep 29, 2016, at 11:12 AM, Karen Holcomb >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Good work, Shurl. >>>>> >>>>> I've requested to join the group, but I think my >>>>> computer may have told FB that I'm Rachel Brill, our >>>>> housesitter, who's ID keeps showing up on my machine >>>>> for email, etc. Will have Bob work on that, but if >>>>> you see that Rachel is requesting to be added to the >>>>> group, that's me. >>>>> >>>>> Nan likes to solve other people's problems as long as >>>>> they don't cost her money or too much time after dark. >>>>> >>>>> grrrr.... raging against the machine.... >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 8:05 AM, Cheryl Roorda >>>>> > >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> So, the volunteer signup page is: >>>>> >>>>> http://www.signupgenius.com/go/4090948aaa82ea4ff2-grassroots >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Check it out! So, actually, the slots aren?t >>>>> populating that well, but I just put it up >>>>> yesterday afternoon, so it will be fine. Let me >>>>> know if you see more things I can add. I will do it!! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Secondly. The GRC Logistics 2016 Facebook page >>>>> link is: >>>>> >>>>> https://www.facebook.com/groups/1164825203579403/members/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> and it is a private page you have to ask to join, >>>>> so it is really only for conference attendees and >>>>> helpful locals. >>>>> >>>>> So share that with anyone with needs that you hear of. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> can you think of anyone that should be added? I >>>>> have Erin Holliday, um, Shea, other great >>>>> connectors?..who are the people who like to solve >>>>> other peoples problems? >>>>> >>>>> And I think this morning, I will take care of the >>>>> press needs, and I will ask Leslie who else needs >>>>> a script. >>>>> >>>>> Back at ya soon, >>>>> Shirl >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >> >> > > Reply Forward Cheryl Roorda Attachments11:04 AM (10 minutes ago) to me This is an updated press release, but we didn?t really address the discount. The website just makes that concept disappear. Will you also say that we offer group rates, and please get in touch with cheryl at kuhsradio.org for any questions. And we just want people to please come!! But of course, make it sound cool, not desperate! Cheryl > On Sep 30, 2016, at 10:56 AM, Karen Holcomb > wrote: > > One other thing - You mentioned another press release I was supposed > to post to the GRC list-serve with the news that there would be no > upcharge for late reg. Did you or Leslie send that and I missed it? > If not, should I just make one? > > On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 10:46 AM, Cheryl Roorda > wrote: > > Okay. Take this. > > Zephyr, (501)-762-2638 > Eureka (501)-802-5956 > > Zephyr is more responsive than Eureka, but I will make sure they > have your cell number. Honestly, they like texting. I?m glad you > text now. > > I have a bag here at the studio in my office with their overnight > gear. So, after you get them, you could swing by and let them run > in here and grab it. They know all the codes to make that happen. > > Thanks so much! > Cheryl > > > > >> On Sep 30, 2016, at 10:22 AM, Karen Holcomb > > wrote: >> >> Bob's going on air? Oh, you mean the interview with Wade at >> KABF. That's a week from today, the 7th, 9 am. >> >> And no, I don't have either kids cell numbers. And yes! they can >> stay the night, which is the best idea. I'll get them both >> whenever they ask. >> >> >> >> On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 9:35 AM, Cheryl Roorda >> > wrote: >> >> When does bob go on air? >> >>> On Sep 30, 2016, at 9:16 AM, Karen Holcomb >>> > wrote: >>> >>> Thanks Shurl. >>> >>> I read Tolly the ad I'd written, and he (sort-of) said ok. >>> But that ad didn't mention GRC. Do all these ads need to do so? >>> >>> I'll go retrieve Eureka whenever she wants, but do I leave >>> Zman there by himself til later? >>> >>> Kern >>> >>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 9:12 AM, Cheryl Roorda >>> > wrote: >>> >>> I wrote Michelle Crandall and told her about the >>> volunteer matrix, so she can now sign up if she wants to. >>> Noted about the program. Can you think of anyone that >>> isn?t a formal business that would get miffed if they >>> didn?t get that program mention (that they will never see!) >>> You would have talked to Tolly at Maxwell Blade, and he >>> has so far produced (kind of poorly i might add) all the >>> blade advertising so far. >>> Anyway, another spot thanking him specifically for >>> hosting the gRC would be good, and I am clear from tolly >>> to do such a thing. >>> >>> Shirl >>> >>> Oh, and call me later about the kids tonight. Eureka has >>> moved her time that she can tolerate Hot Water Hills to >>> 7:30. That girl. >>> We can talk about it. >>> Shirl >>> >>>> On Sep 29, 2016, at 2:54 PM, Karen Holcomb >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>> Yes, I'd add Nan, as she's familiar with Facebook and >>>> loves to connect with others. >>>> >>>> BTW! Last night you said to contact Michelle Crandall >>>> and tell her----?. I didn't write it down and now of >>>> course don't remember. We need to be sure Leslie has >>>> her on a list of folks in the community to thank in the >>>> program, not mentioning her donation. We should also >>>> snail mail her a thank you afterward. I'll do that, as >>>> she's going to be moving. >>>> >>>> Have written a spot for the Steinhaus Keller and one >>>> for Max Blade, but when I called to get hours of >>>> operation, etc, for him, his manager sounded dubious, >>>> and said they already had a radio spot. >>>> >>>> Onward, thus the fog... >>>> Kern >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> >>>> On Sep 29, 2016, at 1:45 PM, Cheryl Roorda >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yeah, I let Rachel Brill in. Should I delete her? IS >>>>> that gonna get on her nerves? >>>>> Bob is already in the group, fyi, it is specifically >>>>> called ?GRC LOGISTICS 2016? >>>>> >>>>> Should I add Nan? We need connectors on this. >>>>> >>>>> Shirl >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 29, 2016, at 11:12 AM, Karen Holcomb >>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Good work, Shurl. >>>>>> >>>>>> I've requested to join the group, but I think my >>>>>> computer may have told FB that I'm Rachel Brill, our >>>>>> housesitter, who's ID keeps showing up on my machine >>>>>> for email, etc. Will have Bob work on that, but if >>>>>> you see that Rachel is requesting to be added to the >>>>>> group, that's me. >>>>>> >>>>>> Nan likes to solve other people's problems as long as >>>>>> they don't cost her money or too much time after dark. >>>>>> >>>>>> grrrr.... raging against the machine.... >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 8:05 AM, Cheryl Roorda >>>>>> > >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> So, the volunteer signup page is: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.signupgenius.com/go/4090948aaa82ea4ff2-grassroots >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Check it out! So, actually, the slots aren?t >>>>>> populating that well, but I just put it up >>>>>> yesterday afternoon, so it will be fine. Let me >>>>>> know if you see more things I can add. I will do it!! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Secondly. The GRC Logistics 2016 Facebook page >>>>>> link is: >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/groups/1164825203579403/members/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> and it is a private page you have to ask to join, >>>>>> so it is really only for conference attendees and >>>>>> helpful locals. >>>>>> >>>>>> So share that with anyone with needs that you >>>>>> hear of. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> can you think of anyone that should be added? 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Page 1 of 1 From juice at whidbey.com Fri Sep 30 10:20:13 2016 From: juice at whidbey.com (Tom Voorhees) Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2016 10:20:13 -0700 Subject: [grc] Time to replace your older Gorman - Redlick EAS box Message-ID: <32caf837cfa3d0378e9d25740406b26dc71dc11c@webmail.whidbey.com> FCC Says No to Gorman-Redlich "Workaround" Requesthttp://www.radioworld.com/article/fcc-says-no-to-gorman-redlich-workaround-request/279724 [1] With all the other EAS developments going on this week, here?s one that will come as unwelcome news to at least some small broadcasters. The FCC?s Public Safety and Homeland Security Bureau has said ?no? to a request from manufacturer Gorman-Redlich for a rules waiver. The company had argued that some legacy EAS equipment is not able to process alerts with the ?six zeroes? national location code, as is now required under the EAS Protocol. The FCC has stated that it believes implementation of ?six zeroes? would present negligible costs because most equipment in the field already supports the six zeroes. But owner Jim Gorman had asked the FCC [2] to allow users of legacy equipment to use an ?entire state? location code instead, and a half-dozen small broadcasters wrote to the commission in support. Now, with the next national test looming, the FCC staff says Gorman-Redlich did not succeed in making its case. It said a waiver on behalf of non-LP-1/LP-2 stations with no downstream monitoring stations would have been so broad and cover so many stations as to create a de facto rule change. Also, the proposal didn?t lay out a cutoff timetable for a waiver nor show how it would serve the public interest, the bureau said. Further, the purpose of the location code, the bureau said, is to ensure consistency between EAS rules and industry CAP standards, which in turn facilitates integration into IP-based alerting systems such as IPAWS, and to help simplify national alerting and avoid confusion. ?The relief sought by the Waiver Request ? using state location codes for a nationwide alert ? is exactly the sort of alternate, ?workaround? process that the ?six zeroes? national location code is intended to eliminate,? the bureau wrote. ?Further, there is no indication that the requested ?workaround? would be effective, as it would only apply to EAS alerts received via the IPAWS CAP feed. Alerts delivered over the air would contain the ?six zeroes? code and would not be processed by the old EAS equipment.? And: ?Granting the Waiver Request would be inconsistent with the public interest goals of the second nationwide test, including the goal of evaluating the reliability and effectiveness of the ?six zeroes? code and other measures adopted after the first nationwide test.? What this outcome portends for any stations that use such equipment during the national test this week was not discussed in the ruling. Radio World has invited comment from Gorman-Redlich and will share any reaction. Related: How to Find Form Two (and Other Last-Minute Test Reminders) [3] - See more at: http://www.radioworld.com/article/fcc-says-no-to-gorman-redlich-workaround-request/279724#sthash.0zBTkPRG.dpuf Links: ------ [1] http://www.radioworld.com/article/fcc-says-no-to-gorman-redlich-workaround-request/279724 [2] http://www.radioworld.com/article/gorman-redlich-eas-waiver-raises-questions/279419 [3] http://www.radioworld.com/article/how-to-find-form-two-/279722 From mike at brownbroadcast.com Fri Sep 30 12:39:20 2016 From: mike at brownbroadcast.com (Michael D. Brown) Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2016 12:39:20 -0700 Subject: [grc] [Stubblefield] Using a digital stream as STL toLPFM transmitter site In-Reply-To: References: <002101d21aa6$83570fe0$8a052fa0$@wspj.org><003b01d21aa9$b28f0bc0$17ad2340$@wspj.org> Message-ID: I believe in using your own infrastructure whenever possible. In most cases, two STL hops will will work where one hop does not. For this application, the most basic Barix units can work fine as codecs, and they sound very good in linear PCM. Dealing with two separate ISPs can be a nightmare. IMHO, it's risky using Barix boxes (or any other fixed algorithm codec) on the public internet, for a primary STL. And the Barix MP3 implementation is poor. "Smarter" variable bit-rate hardware, and those that incorporate AAC/HE-AAC modes, are a better choice (e.g.: Comrex BRIC Link; Tieline Bridge-IT). mb Michael D. Brown Brown Broadcast Services, Inc. _____ From: Stubblefield [mailto:stubblefield-bounces at lists.prometheusradio.org] On Behalf Of Bill Putney Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 6:07 PM To: Stubblefield Cc: GRC List Subject: Re: [Stubblefield] Using a digital stream as STL toLPFM transmitter site Line of sight implies a radio link. You've already said there's a hill in the way. I assume from what you've said you're going to try to use public Internet. Having two separate ISPs involved multiplies the possible maintenance issues because neither ISP controls the entire link. You can't call and tell them to just fix it. They won't trade trouble tickets and they may not even have a direct connection between each other. If you're going to do this I'd recommend getting MTR for Windows, Mac or Linux and test the link from end to end for at least a day. You'll need an IP address of something at the transmitter end you can ping from the studio end. MTR will give you details for each device the connection passes through and will tell you if there are dropped packets. There shouldn't be any. If the packet loss is 5% or more for any section of the connection I wouldn't use Internet as the STL. You should look at the jitter information MTR gives you too. High jitter indicates there are network errors being corrected that don't cause dropped packets but cause a stuttering data flow. That won't be good for your audio because the codec at the transmitter end will run out of data and go silent. Bill Putney - WB6RFW Chief Engineer KPTZ - Port Townsend, WA PP-SEL/A&P-IA (360) 379-6886 "...you know me to be a very smart man. Don't you think if I were wrong, I'd know it?" -Sheldon Cooper On Sep 29, 2016, at 16:32, Danny wrote: If line of sight link means a dedicated internet connection between the 2 locations, then no. This will be an internet link with or without the Barix boxes. Our studio uses Verizon FIOS and the transmitter site Time Warner Roadrunner broadband. From: Stubblefield [mailto:stubblefield-bounces at lists.prometheusradio.org] On Behalf Of Will Floyd Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 7:27 PM To: Stubblefield Cc: GRC List Subject: Re: [Stubblefield] Using a digital stream as STL to LPFM transmitter site The Barix boxes are basically little computers that convert analog audio to digital or the opposite. So yes, another little computer like a Raspberry Pi or a big desktop can accomplish those tasks. The benefit of the Barix boxes is that they are easy to set up, and cheaper than other broadcast quality CODECs. It's unclear from your email if you are using a line of sight link or the Internet to connect your studio to the transmitter. Generally, a line of sight link is more desirable because it is a more direct path that is immune to problems with the wider Internet and more secure. It's worth noting that if you are using the Internet for the connection it might be worth looking into a CODEC with some additional features. On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 5:09 PM, Danny wrote: Our LPFM transmitter site is 6+ miles from our studio without a clean line-of-sight because of hills. So, to save time and money, we?ve been expecting to use a pair of Barix boxes to move a digital stream from our studio to our transmitter. But a couple of our key people think we can skip using one or both Barix boxes. Specifically, the person who maintains the Icecast server that hosts our webcast feels confident he can create a second private stream of much higher quality that can take the place of the need for a Barix box at the studio end and another person thinks we can use a ?headless internet radio player? on a Raspberry Pi instead of a Barix box at the transmitter site. He?s looking at https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=43108 especially noting this setup has auto-run upon reboot, which is what we want. This is a key person of ours with lots of experience using the Raspberry Pi. Are one or both of them missing something with these suggestions? Will these be viable and reliable ways to avoid paying $1,200 for a pair of Barix boxes? Thanks! Danny WSPJ-LP Syracuse NY _______________________________________________ This is the Stubblefield mailing list. To post, send an email to: Stubblefield at lists.prometheusradio.org For list options or to unsubscribe, please visit: http://lists.prometheusradio.org/listinfo.cgi/stubblefield-prometheusradio.org -- Will Floyd Technical Director | Prometheus Radio Project will at prometheusradio.org | 215.727.9620 x524 _______________________________________________ This is the Stubblefield mailing list. To post, send an email to: Stubblefield at lists.prometheusradio.org For list options or to unsubscribe, please visit: http://lists.prometheusradio.org/listinfo.cgi/stubblefield-prometheusradio.org From juice at whidbey.com Fri Sep 30 14:37:48 2016 From: juice at whidbey.com (Tom Voorhees) Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2016 14:37:48 -0700 Subject: [grc] Using a digital stream as STL to LPFM transmitter site Message-ID: <56d8cd8b4759d854d1210954cf8e9db1e9b91a46@webmail.whidbey.com> ! agree with Michael, Petri and Bill, Two STL hops are the best way to go. Ubic also makes a 902 - 928 Mhz STL that may penetrate some light vegetation. Attached is a photo of a mid path repeater site in PR. Upon request I have a one line STL schematic drawing to this transmitter site I can send using the Barix 500 balanced XLR codecs. . Tom. > ? > Agreed! > For some reason that still confounds me, the Barix implementation of MP3 > (to my ears) just doesn't sound very good. In fact, I think it's awful, > especially when the source material is also bit-reduced. > Moderate audio processing just magnifies the mud. > Other codecs might have a better MP3 implementation, but by now there are > other systems that run circles around it. > > Linear, FLAC, or 320kbs (or more) HE-AAC are the best ways to go for STL. > > > mb > > Michael D. Brown > Brown Broadcast Services, Inc. > > ------------------------- > FROM: Stubblefield > [mailto:stubblefield-bounces at lists.prometheusradio.org] ON BEHALF OF Greg > Lyon > SENT: Thursday, September 29, 2016 7:27 PM > TO: Stubblefield > SUBJECT: Re: [Stubblefield] Using a digital stream as STL to LPFM > transmitter site > > We at Asheville FM (WSFM-LP) finally gave up on our Barix Exstreamer 500 > (using the STL firmware) connection over public internet. Even though > both the studio and transmitter were on dedicated connections (no QOS > problems) to the same ISP (Charter cable), we had multiple dropouts and > digital noise daily. We don't have line of sight. We were doing 320 kbps > mp3 stream with 600 ms buffer (Barix-recommended settings for 320 mp3). > The Barix STL firmware doesn't allow AAC encoding. > > We finally bought the bullet and had a local nonprofit optical fiber ISP > hook us up with an IP tunnel. Now we're sailing beautifully with PCM > streaming (16/48). The sound difference is noticeable. Not a single > glitch, that I've heard. One thing I don't like about the Barix is that > there are no logs, as far as I can tell. Otherwise, I really like the > Barix boxes. I can't imagine sticking with a Raspberry Pi solution for an > STL--or even an icecast stream over public internet. STL dropouts are a > serious buzzkill. > > --Greg > > On 9/29/2016 9:22 PM, Matt Lane wrote: > You could always house some sort of automation (like ZaraRadio) and your > EAS decoder at the transmitter site (for compliance), pushing content to > the automation via the 'Net as needed in the interim. Use Dropbox or > Google Drive to push content via the cloud to your system, set up a > schedule on the automation and so forth, get a free TeamViewer account or > set up VNC for remote control. > > I'm with Pete on this, using the public Internet as an STL is iffy. I > get a bit antsy when using it to do local remote broadcasts, especially > when we are in downtown Nashville where everyone has to Snapchat their > cowboy boot pedal tavern experiences, causing 4G LTE to whimper (but I > digress). > > Matt Lane, WW4RFN > Technical Director > WRFN-LP/W279CH > Radio Free Nashville > > On Thursday, September 29, 2016, > wrote: > Send Stubblefield mailing list submissions to > stubblefield at lists.prometheusradio.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://lists.prometheusradio.org/listinfo.cgi/stubblefield-prometheusradio.org > [1] > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > stubblefield-request at lists.prometheusradio.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > stubblefield-owner at lists.prometheusradio.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Stubblefield digest..." > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Using a digital stream as STL to LPFM transmitter site > (pete tridish) > 2. Re: Using a digital stream as STL to LPFM transmitter site > (WSBL LP) > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 20:30:05 -0400 > From: pete tridish > To: Stubblefield > Subject: Re: [Stubblefield] Using a digital stream as STL to LPFM > transmitter site > Message-ID: <57EDB20D.8080607 at riseup.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" > > ah, makes sense. I'm sure it will work for a while, good enough to get > you license! > >> Danny >> September 29, 2016 at 8:21 PM >> >> The Ubiquiti has always been our preferred option. But we?re building >> out both a LPFM and associated translator in tandem, with the CP for >> the latter expiring first, so we already have a very full plate. Plus, >> the hills are public parks, which greatly complicates that option. Our >> focus right now is saving both CPs and then making it all pretty later >> when we have more time and people will have a clearer sense what > we?re >> up to. >> >> *From:*Stubblefield >> [mailto:stubblefield-bounces at lists.prometheusradio.org] *On Behalf Of >> *Bill Putney >> *Sent:* Thursday, September 29, 2016 7:35 PM >> *To:* stubblefield at lists.prometheusradio.org >> *Subject:* Re: [Stubblefield] Using a digital stream as STL to LPFM >> transmitter site >> >> If you can find a place up on the hill at someone's house or business >> to host a couple of Ubiquiti 5 GHz radios that would make a nicer STL >> transport than public Internet. Public Internet connections are prone >> to drops and outright failure. Not really something you want your >> listeners to have to put up with. If the Internet where you are is >> really good, it will work fine but a lot of times it isn't an it just >> makes everyone's life miserable. >> >> As for using an Icecast server at the studio end, that sounds fine. >> Use something like 256 Kbps AAC or another modern good sounding codec. >> Full CD rate PCM would be best and with a Ubiquiti link you have the >> bandwidth. I'd stay away from MP3 even at higher bit rates. People are >> going to want to bring in their crummy MP3 music to play on the air. A >> bad idea on several levels but if you have to skimp on the STL >> bandwidth and use an aggressive codec you really need to start >> worrying about the cascading codec's making a mess of the audio. It >> won't turn up in everything that gets played but when it does it'll >> like fingernails on a chalkboard. >> >> The Raspberry Pi has plenty of horsepower for the job. The audio >> interface on the Raspberry Pi isn't the greatest. It does have a USB >> port. Ask your software person if they can use a Pro-sumer USB to >> balanced audio interface with the Pi. If your transmitter has an AES >> input, you can use a really inexpensive USB to S/PDIF interface that >> will sound better than any analog interface. I ran our automation >> through a $35 module I bought on eBay when we started. Bits in/bits >> out. If it sync's up you can't go wrong. Bits to an analog waveform is >> a much harder thing to do right and it costs money to get it right. >> >> I don't think the Pi has S/PDIF out (heither the coaxial or >> optical-TOSLINK). It does have HDMI so the software does know most of >> the stuff it needs to know about S/PDIF. AES and S/PDIF are nearly >> identical protocols and the electrical differences are close enough to >> work if the connection is under a few feet. >> >> Bill Putney - WB6RFW >> Chief Engineer >> KPTZ - Port Townsend, WA >> PP-SEL/A&P-IA >> "...you know me to be a very smart man. Don't you think if I were >> wrong, I'd know it?" -Sheldon Cooper >> >> On 9/29/16 4:09 PM, Danny wrote: >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This is the Stubblefield mailing list. >> To post, send an email to: Stubblefield at lists.prometheusradio.org >> For list options or to unsubscribe, please visit: >> > http://lists.prometheusradio.org/listinfo.cgi/stubblefield-prometheusradio.org > [1] >> Bill Putney >> September 29, 2016 at 7:35 PM >> >> If you can find a place up on the hill at someone's house or business >> to host a couple of Ubiquiti 5 GHz radios that would make a nicer STL >> transport than public Internet. Public Internet connections are prone >> to drops and outright failure. Not really something you want your >> listeners to have to put up with. If the Internet where you are is >> really good, it will work fine but a lot of times it isn't an it just >> makes everyone's life miserable. >> >> As for using an Icecast server at the studio end, that sounds fine. >> Use something like 256 Kbps AAC or another modern good sounding codec. >> Full CD rate PCM would be best and with a Ubiquiti link you have the >> bandwidth. I'd stay away from MP3 even at higher bit rates. People are >> going to want to bring in their crummy MP3 music to play on the air. A >> bad idea on several levels but if you have to skimp on the STL >> bandwidth and use an aggressive codec you really need to start >> worrying about the cascading codec's making a mess of the audio. It >> won't turn up in everything that gets played but when it does it'll >> like fingernails on a chalkboard. >> >> The Raspberry Pi has plenty of horsepower for the job. The audio >> interface on the Raspberry Pi isn't the greatest. It does have a USB >> port. Ask your software person if they can use a Pro-sumer USB to >> balanced audio interface with the Pi. If your transmitter has an AES >> input, you can use a really inexpensive USB to S/PDIF interface that >> will sound better than any analog interface. I ran our automation >> through a $35 module I bought on eBay when we started. Bits in/bits >> out. If it sync's up you can't go wrong. Bits to an analog waveform is >> a much harder thing to do right and it costs money to get it right. >> >> I don't think the Pi has S/PDIF out (heither the coaxial or >> optical-TOSLINK). It does have HDMI so the software does know most of >> the stuff it needs to know about S/PDIF. AES and S/PDIF are nearly >> identical protocols and the electrical differences are close enough to >> work if the connection is under a few feet. >> >> Bill Putney - WB6RFW >> Chief Engineer >> KPTZ - Port Townsend, WA >> >> PP-SEL/A&P-IA >> >> "...you know me to be a very smart man. Don't you think if I were >> wrong, I'd know it?" -Sheldon Cooper >> >> On 9/29/16 4:09 PM, Danny wrote: >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This is the Stubblefield mailing list. >> To post, send an email to: Stubblefield at lists.prometheusradio.org >> For list options or to unsubscribe, please visit: >> > http://lists.prometheusradio.org/listinfo.cgi/stubblefield-prometheusradio.org > [1] >> Danny >> September 29, 2016 at 7:09 PM >> >> Our LPFM transmitter site is 6+ miles from our studio without a clean >> line-of-sight because of hills. So, to save time and money, we?ve > been >> expecting to use a pair of Barix boxes to move a digital stream from >> our studio to our transmitter. But a couple of our key people think >> we can skip using one or both Barix boxes. >> >> Specifically, the person who maintains the Icecast server that hosts >> our webcast feels confident he can create a second private stream of >> much higher quality that can take the place of the need for a Barix >> box at the studio end and another person thinks we can use a > ?headless >> internet radio player? on a Raspberry Pi instead of a Barix box at > the >> transmitter site. He?s looking at >> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=43108 [2] > especially >> noting this setup has auto-run upon reboot, which is what we want. >> This is a key person of ours with lots of experience using the >> Raspberry Pi. >> >> Are one or both of them missing something with these suggestions? Will >> these be viable and reliable ways to avoid paying $1,200 for a pair of >> Barix boxes? >> >> Thanks! >> >> Danny >> >> WSPJ-LP Syracuse NY >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This is the Stubblefield mailing list. >> To post, send an email to: Stubblefield at lists.prometheusradio.org >> For list options or to unsubscribe, please visit: >> > http://lists.prometheusradio.org/listinfo.cgi/stubblefield-prometheusradio.org > [1] > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > [3]> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2016 00:45:15 +0000 (UTC) > From: WSBL LP > To: Stubblefield > Subject: Re: [Stubblefield] Using a digital stream as STL to LPFM > transmitter site > Message-ID: <1674681925.3064049.1475196315352 at mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > We have been using Barix boxes for a good 4 years. > Three problems we encountered makes our choice a bit questionable.All > have to do with the bandwidth of DSL and AT&T. We could change to a > "better" provider but our monthly cost would quadruple (Comcast). > Problem #1 was that we could not transmit at MP3 quality, so we had to > lower quality a bit, and it is somewhat noticeable. > #2 Every now and then our DSL gets saturated for some unknown reason and > we get off the air momentarily, this is a rare occurrence but it happens. > #3 At least once a year our internet provider has its own problems and > completely turns off for a few hours. > On the other hand the Barix boxes perform beautifully and are > ultra-reliable. > When our link is dropped, the Barix at the transmitter immediately starts > a playlist that we loaded into a memory stick, in it we have our ID every > ten minutes and a message stating that we are experiencing technical > difficulties, as well as the most popular music for our audience. > We have a static IP address at the transmitter site. With a third box we > do remote broadcasting basically moving our studio to any place we want, > as long as there is a fairly good internet service at the site. > Programming the barix boxes is not a simple task, fortunately we found a > technician that had experience with them and he did all the > configuration. > Hopefully this input helps you make a good decision. > Eliud Villanueva, DirectorWSBL-LP, South Bend, IN > ps. We actually have a clear line of sight and are thinking of changing > to some kind of microwave STL > > From: Danny > To: grc at maillist.peak.org; stubblefield at lists.prometheusradio.org > Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 7:09 PM > Subject: [Stubblefield] Using a digital stream as STL to LPFM > transmitter site > > Our LPFM transmitter site is 6+ miles > from our studio without a clean line-of-sight because of hills. So, to > save time and money, we?ve been expecting to use a pair of Barix boxes > to move a digital stream from our studio to our transmitter. But a > couple of our key people think we can skip using one or both Barix boxes. > Specifically, the person who maintains the Icecast server that hosts our > webcast feels confident he can create a second private stream of much > higher quality that can take the place of the need for a Barix box at the > studio end and another person thinks we can use a ?headless internet > radio player? on a Raspberry Pi instead of a Barix box at the > transmitter site. He?s looking at > https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=43108 [2] especially > noting this setup has auto-run upon reboot, which is what we want. This > is a key person of ours with lots of experience using the Raspberry Pi. > Are one or both of them missing something with these suggestions? Will > these be viable and reliable ways to avoid paying $1,200 for a pair of > Barix boxes? 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