From sweetheartofthevalley at gmail.com Thu Mar 2 07:47:10 2017 From: sweetheartofthevalley at gmail.com (Yaney LA MacIver) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2017 07:47:10 -0800 Subject: [grc] KPFK? Message-ID: So what's going on at KPFK? Qapla Yaney LA MacIver 541-829-9788 http://owensvalleygirl.wordpress.com From tracyrose at gmail.com Thu Mar 2 07:51:13 2017 From: tracyrose at gmail.com (Tracy Rosenberg) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2017 07:51:13 -0800 Subject: [grc] KPFK? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Management change. A good one. There were serious problems with third party fundraising, copyright infringements, plugola and premium defaults. A block of late night programs based around on air profanity were taken off after a year on air. Some will get new time slots, some won't. Some affected programmers upset. On Mar 2, 2017 7:47 AM, "Yaney LA MacIver via grc" wrote: So what's going on at KPFK? Qapla Yaney LA MacIver 541-829-9788 http://owensvalleygirl.wordpress.com _______________________________________________ grc mailing list grc at maillist.peak.org http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc From sweetheartofthevalley at gmail.com Thu Mar 2 08:16:24 2017 From: sweetheartofthevalley at gmail.com (Yaney LA MacIver) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2017 08:16:24 -0800 Subject: [grc] KPFK? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <15392915-47D6-4BCF-B1EF-8184CA0B939E@gmail.com> So why was Cynthia McKinney's show taken off. And what about Safe Harbor? Qapla Yaney LA MacIver 541-829-9788 http://owensvalleygirl.wordpress.com On Mar 2, 2017, at 7:51 AM, Tracy Rosenberg wrote: Management change. A good one. There were serious problems with third party fundraising, copyright infringements, plugola and premium defaults. A block of late night programs based around on air profanity were taken off after a year on air. Some will get new time slots, some won't. Some affected programmers upset. On Mar 2, 2017 7:47 AM, "Yaney LA MacIver via grc" wrote: So what's going on at KPFK? Qapla Yaney LA MacIver 541-829-9788 http://owensvalleygirl.wordpress.com _______________________________________________ grc mailing list grc at maillist.peak.org http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc From juice at whidbey.com Thu Mar 2 08:24:14 2017 From: juice at whidbey.com (Tom Voorhees) Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2017 08:24:14 -0800 Subject: [grc] KPFK? In-Reply-To: <15392915-47D6-4BCF-B1EF-8184CA0B939E@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9cae5b7b05b2b838eac958a24d5ca9406c41c5bb@webmail.whidbey.com> FYI BERKELEY - A turbulent 21 months at KPFK in Los Angeles has come to an end with a change in the station's general manager position made on February 27, effective immediately. Leslie Radford was hired in May of 2015 to be KPFK's general manager by outgoing IED Margy Wilkinson on Wilkinson's last day [1]. The hire was against the wishes of incoming executive director John Proffitt, who was literally driving from Texas when Wilkinson made the hire. Proffitt had asked Wilkinson to allow him to interview the KPFK candidates, but she did not do so and hired Radford, a former Siegel/Brazon-affiliated national board member, to the KPFK job. Radford's tenure was marked by a huge judgement for labor contract violations, won by SAG-AFTRA in arbitration in mid-2016 [2]. The $285,000 assessment included back pay, severance awards and penalties in response to dozens of grievances filed [3]after Radford imposed involuntary pay cuts, laid off two employees and denied severance benefits in the fall of 2015. Proposed KPFK budgetary plans for 2017 (never approved by the national board) further punished KPFK employees with the loss of all spousal and dependent child health care coverage. [4] In a press release put out by the Pacifica Foundation [5], new interim ED Bil Crosier commented: _"KPFK is an important part of the Pacifica Foundation, and is our biggest and most powerful station in the second biggest media market in the United States. The station has been through some difficult times recently. I want KPFK to take a leadership role, both within our radio network as it recovers, and in the Southern California media landscape as the country meets the challenges presented by the Trump administration. This change will position KPFK to do so? _ Long-time staffer Christine Blosdale has taken over the KPFK general manager position on a temporary basis. The morning after the change in management at KPFK, the station's legendary overnight host Roy of Hollywood, returned in a 40th anniversary celebration that was extra joyous [6] due to the unexpected return to the midnight time slot. The program's listeners responded with one-night donations in excess of $4,000. _Something's Happening_ had been bifurcated to 3am to 6am for the last year in order for Radford to put on a melange of new programs under the name _Safe Harbor, _a reference to the FCC relaxation of rules on broadcast profanity during the late night hours. _Safe Harbor_ took full advantage, making a specialty out of indulging in as much on-air profanity as humanly possible [7], generating numerous listener complaints and few listener donations. Some of the new shows also had problems with plugola [8] (on-air promotions) and copyright infringement, particularly volunteer coordinator Adam Rice's _Music to Resist B_y, with Rice unaccountably posting programs with copyrighted music on the Internet Archive [9] in KPFK's name and ducking Soundexchange reporting requirements for Internet streaming. Rice has been suspended from KPFK until further notice. Other displaced programmers from the year-old _Safe Harbor_ block have been invited to submit requests for new time slots to interim program director Alan Minsky. Pacifica received some great news from the Office of the California Attorney General which gave a six-month extension to submit the fiscal year 2015 financial audit, which has not been started 9 months after it was due. The extension follows a series of scary letters [10] in December and January threatening the loss of nonprofit status and an AG meeting with the board's 2016 officers in mid-January that was concealed from incoming directors. The California AG requested the submission of a written plan for re-establishing Pacifica's financial stablity and proof of replacement of restricted funds used inappropriately by the previous regime, by the end of March. New IED Crosier has implemented a nationwide fundraising day on Thursday March 2 to raise funds to immediately proceed with the delinquent audits [11]. The "audit fundraiser", first proposed by the WBAI Community Advisory Board in December, will feature voices of resistance from the Pacifica Archives with original programming simulcast on WBAI, WPFW, KPFT and KPFK all day. KPFA will maintain its regular fund drive programming, but donate the day's proceeds to the dedicated fund. The special day of fundraising has been given a huge head start by a generous $86K gift from a long-time WBAI supporter who is providing a match fund for the whole day or until the funds are all used up. SO EVERY DONATION UP TO $86K WILL BE MATCHED AT 100% OF ITS VALUE, NETTING PACIFICA AT LEAST $172K TO DEDICATE TO CLEANING UP THE ACCOUNTING ONCE AND FOR ALL AND PRESERVING THE NETWORK'S TAX-DEDUCTIBLE STATUS. Special Programming Pacifica Radio Archives Voices of Resistance From The Pacifica Radio Archives and KPFK, KPFT, WPFW and WBAI Thursday, March 2, 2017 6:00 AM ET to Midnight ET As we enter a new world of the Alt-right and alternative facts, the Pacifica Radio Network is more committed than ever to bringing you news that is fact-based, speaking truth to power, and documenting the revolution. Radio is the perfect medium to change hearts and minds, and Pacifica Radio has been at the forefront of progressive, listener-powered radio since its inception in 1946 by pacifist journalist Lewis Hill. He believed that people would support media that aligned with their core values. Won't you be in solidarity with this critical work, and help us preserve Lewis Hill's vision by listening to, and supporting, Pacifica Radio - Radio for the Resistance! You can call Pacifica at 800-725-0230 to help keep free media alive. The next national board meeting is scheduled for the evening of March 2. ** A timeline of the 35-month long coup by the Siegel/Brazon faction can be seen here. [12] ** If you value being kept up to speed on Pacifica Radio news via this newsletter, you can make a little contribution to keep Pacifica in Exile publishing [13] . Donations are secure, but not tax-deductible. (Scroll down to the donation icon). Pacifica in Exile readers may write to the board at pnb at pacifica.org. To subscribe to this newsletter, please visit our website at www.pacificainexile.org [14] ### _Started in 1946 by conscientious objector Lew Hill, Pacifica's storied history includes impounded program tapes for a 1954 on-air discussion of marijuana, broadcasting the Seymour Hersh revelations of the My Lai massacre, bombings by the Ku Klux Klan, going to jail rather than turning over the Patty Hearst tapes to the FBI, and Supreme Court cases including the 1984 decision that noncommercial broadcasters have the constitutional right to editorialize, and the Seven Dirty Words ruling following George Carlin's incendiary performances on WBAI. Pacifica Foundation Radio operates noncommercial radio stations in New York, Washington, Houston, Los Angeles, and the San Francisco Bay Area, and syndicates content to over 180 affiliates. It invented listener-supported radio._? > So why was Cynthia McKinney's show taken off. And what about Safe Harbor? > > Qapla > > Yaney LA MacIver > 541-829-9788 > http://owensvalleygirl.wordpress.com > > On Mar 2, 2017, at 7:51 AM, Tracy Rosenberg wrote: > > Management change. A good one. There were serious problems with third > party fundraising, copyright infringements, plugola and premium defaults. > > > A block of late night programs based around on air profanity were taken > off after a year on air. Some will get new time slots, some won't. Some > affected programmers upset. > > On Mar 2, 2017 7:47 AM, "Yaney LA MacIver via grc" > wrote: > So what's going on at KPFK? > > Qapla > > Yaney LA MacIver > 541-829-9788 > http://owensvalleygirl.wordpress.com > > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc Links: ------ [1] http://org.salsalabs.com/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=JVY%2Bzrs29skENIZAwQSWL2gbNqAHfBRx [2] http://org.salsalabs.com/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=1UcZNXkoxr4BLUMlo%2FKy%2FWgbNqAHfBRx [3] http://org.salsalabs.com/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=o3DY5BuaZvAxlJt%2F6%2FqMQ2gbNqAHfBRx [4] http://org.salsalabs.com/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=nDvNd5gtvzPnwJ17u3NQBGgbNqAHfBRx [5] http://org.salsalabs.com/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=g9rI85zVYrYpgZIQ6ywOtWgbNqAHfBRx [6] http://org.salsalabs.com/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=KpEXtLUVpr4VkpN5MANpkmgbNqAHfBRx [7] http://org.salsalabs.com/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=1ZuHylj0vw%2FxupBeMVw5HGgbNqAHfBRx [8] http://org.salsalabs.com/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=AFRv0tyWR%2FNQozaA8fDiOr7us7OA%2BSAI [9] http://org.salsalabs.com/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=GRi40i28tbKX9K1bV2ItGWgbNqAHfBRx [10] http://org.salsalabs.com/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=88BU77DvxkI2KbFVsPILVWgbNqAHfBRx [11] http://org.salsalabs.com/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=myVzBSx6%2FAz4sKYjjYq3bWgbNqAHfBRx [12] http://org.salsalabs.com/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=iTytpok7LvAg7L48kgVr3WgbNqAHfBRx [13] http://org.salsalabs.com/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=B3oBoApLenTwvgMCKENv42gbNqAHfBRx [14] http://www.pacificainexile.org/ From tracyrose at gmail.com Thu Mar 2 08:27:54 2017 From: tracyrose at gmail.com (Tracy Rosenberg) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2017 08:27:54 -0800 Subject: [grc] KPFK? In-Reply-To: <15392915-47D6-4BCF-B1EF-8184CA0B939E@gmail.com> References: <15392915-47D6-4BCF-B1EF-8184CA0B939E@gmail.com> Message-ID: I believe Cynthia's show will get a new time slot in a week or two. It was taken off because everything was taken off in the midnight to 3 am period from Monday to Thursday which was all branded as Safe Harbor. There's no show called Safe Harbor. It's just a bunch of programs using the name. As I said, some are getting different time slots and a few may not. The plugola and copyright infringements problems going on with some of the programs had to be addressed and there were constant complaints about the excessive profanity and dismal fundraising results. KPFK seems to be benefitting. Their funder drive numbers have gone steadily up for the past two days. On Mar 2, 2017 8:16 AM, "Yaney LA MacIver" wrote: So why was Cynthia McKinney's show taken off. And what about Safe Harbor? Qapla Yaney LA MacIver 541-829-9788 <(541)%20829-9788> http://owensvalleygirl.wordpress.com On Mar 2, 2017, at 7:51 AM, Tracy Rosenberg wrote: Management change. A good one. There were serious problems with third party fundraising, copyright infringements, plugola and premium defaults. A block of late night programs based around on air profanity were taken off after a year on air. Some will get new time slots, some won't. Some affected programmers upset. On Mar 2, 2017 7:47 AM, "Yaney LA MacIver via grc" wrote: So what's going on at KPFK? Qapla Yaney LA MacIver 541-829-9788 http://owensvalleygirl.wordpress.com _______________________________________________ grc mailing list grc at maillist.peak.org http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc From tracyrose at gmail.com Thu Mar 2 08:29:31 2017 From: tracyrose at gmail.com (Tracy Rosenberg) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2017 08:29:31 -0800 Subject: [grc] KPFK? In-Reply-To: References: <15392915-47D6-4BCF-B1EF-8184CA0B939E@gmail.com> Message-ID: Sorry. Phone typing. But hopefully you got the idea.... On Mar 2, 2017 8:27 AM, "Tracy Rosenberg" wrote: > I believe Cynthia's show will get a new time slot in a week or two. It was > taken off because everything was taken off in the midnight to 3 am period > from Monday to Thursday which was all branded as Safe Harbor. There's no > show called Safe Harbor. It's just a bunch of programs using the name. > > As I said, some are getting different time slots and a few may not. > > The plugola and copyright infringements problems going on with some of the > programs had to be addressed and there were constant complaints about the > excessive profanity and dismal fundraising results. > > KPFK seems to be benefitting. Their funder drive numbers have gone > steadily up for the past two days. > > > > > > > On Mar 2, 2017 8:16 AM, "Yaney LA MacIver" com> wrote: > > So why was Cynthia McKinney's show taken off. And what about Safe Harbor? > > > Qapla > > Yaney LA MacIver > 541-829-9788 <(541)%20829-9788> > http://owensvalleygirl.wordpress.com > > On Mar 2, 2017, at 7:51 AM, Tracy Rosenberg wrote: > > Management change. A good one. There were serious problems with third > party fundraising, copyright infringements, plugola and premium defaults. > > A block of late night programs based around on air profanity were taken > off after a year on air. Some will get new time slots, some won't. Some > affected programmers upset. > > > > On Mar 2, 2017 7:47 AM, "Yaney LA MacIver via grc" > wrote: > > So what's going on at KPFK? > > Qapla > > Yaney LA MacIver > 541-829-9788 > http://owensvalleygirl.wordpress.com > > > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > > > > From jgiddings at igc.org Thu Mar 2 10:32:28 2017 From: jgiddings at igc.org (Jim Giddings) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2017 13:32:28 -0500 Subject: [grc] When and where is GRC 2017? Message-ID: I confess I haven't been following developments closely, but has a site for this year's GRC been chosen? Also, was there a decision on a permanent website/URL for the conference? Thanks! -Jim Giddings, Thinking Out Loud, WUML, Lowell MA From musazwana at gmail.com Thu Mar 2 11:55:36 2017 From: musazwana at gmail.com (Musa Zwana) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2017 14:55:36 -0500 Subject: [grc] When and where is GRC 2017? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Can I throw in a bid for GRC 2017 in Albany, NY. We are up and broadcasting a test signal as of Feb 18! ******************************** Musa Zwana 518-365-4228 www.musazwana.com On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 1:32 PM, Jim Giddings via grc wrote: > I confess I haven't been following developments closely, but has a site > for this year's GRC been chosen? Also, was there a decision on a permanent > website/URL for the conference? Thanks! > > > -Jim Giddings, Thinking Out Loud, WUML, Lowell MA > > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > From ad253 at freeelectron.net Thu Mar 2 12:11:39 2017 From: ad253 at freeelectron.net (al davis) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2017 15:11:39 -0500 Subject: [grc] When and where is GRC 2017? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20170302151139.759321ce@floyd.freeelectron.net> On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 13:32:28 -0500 Jim Giddings via grc wrote: > Also, was there a decision on a > permanent website/URL for the conference? I have registered the domain name "grassrootsradioconference.com". (some time ago) So let's use it as a permanent URL. For now, it points to grc2016.net, last year's conference. From sweetheartofthevalley at gmail.com Sun Mar 5 01:38:25 2017 From: sweetheartofthevalley at gmail.com (Yaney LA MacIver) Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2017 01:38:25 -0800 Subject: [grc] KPFK? In-Reply-To: References: <15392915-47D6-4BCF-B1EF-8184CA0B939E@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8D510FFA-BA67-4817-8A87-4ACD093A2B17@gmail.com> Well this was no way to treat Cynthia, highly disrespectful. I don't care what the other issues may have been with the rest of the programming. KPFK owes her a huge apology. Qapla Yaney LA MacIver 541-829-9788 http://owensvalleygirl.wordpress.com On Mar 2, 2017, at 8:27 AM, Tracy Rosenberg wrote: I believe Cynthia's show will get a new time slot in a week or two. It was taken off because everything was taken off in the midnight to 3 am period from Monday to Thursday which was all branded as Safe Harbor. There's no show called Safe Harbor. It's just a bunch of programs using the name. As I said, some are getting different time slots and a few may not. The plugola and copyright infringements problems going on with some of the programs had to be addressed and there were constant complaints about the excessive profanity and dismal fundraising results. KPFK seems to be benefitting. Their funder drive numbers have gone steadily up for the past two days. On Mar 2, 2017 8:16 AM, "Yaney LA MacIver" wrote: So why was Cynthia McKinney's show taken off. And what about Safe Harbor? Qapla Yaney LA MacIver 541-829-9788 http://owensvalleygirl.wordpress.com On Mar 2, 2017, at 7:51 AM, Tracy Rosenberg wrote: Management change. A good one. There were serious problems with third party fundraising, copyright infringements, plugola and premium defaults. A block of late night programs based around on air profanity were taken off after a year on air. Some will get new time slots, some won't. Some affected programmers upset. On Mar 2, 2017 7:47 AM, "Yaney LA MacIver via grc" wrote: So what's going on at KPFK? Qapla Yaney LA MacIver 541-829-9788 http://owensvalleygirl.wordpress.com _______________________________________________ grc mailing list grc at maillist.peak.org http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc From tracyrose at gmail.com Sun Mar 5 07:31:36 2017 From: tracyrose at gmail.com (Tracy Rosenberg) Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2017 07:31:36 -0800 Subject: [grc] KPFK? In-Reply-To: <8D510FFA-BA67-4817-8A87-4ACD093A2B17@gmail.com> References: <15392915-47D6-4BCF-B1EF-8184CA0B939E@gmail.com> <8D510FFA-BA67-4817-8A87-4ACD093A2B17@gmail.com> Message-ID: I understand that you might not have cared, but the station's management has to care about rampant plugola and copyright infringement. So they took off the entire program block and will restore some programs that were not problematic. Cynthia's is at the top of the list, if that is what she wants. On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 1:38 AM, Yaney LA MacIver < sweetheartofthevalley at gmail.com> wrote: > Well this was no way to treat Cynthia, highly disrespectful. I don't care > what the other issues may have been with the rest of the programming. KPFK > owes her a huge apology. > > Qapla > > Yaney LA MacIver > 541-829-9788 <(541)%20829-9788> > http://owensvalleygirl.wordpress.com > > On Mar 2, 2017, at 8:27 AM, Tracy Rosenberg wrote: > > I believe Cynthia's show will get a new time slot in a week or two. It was > taken off because everything was taken off in the midnight to 3 am period > from Monday to Thursday which was all branded as Safe Harbor. There's no > show called Safe Harbor. It's just a bunch of programs using the name. > > As I said, some are getting different time slots and a few may not. > > The plugola and copyright infringements problems going on with some of the > programs had to be addressed and there were constant complaints about the > excessive profanity and dismal fundraising results. > > KPFK seems to be benefitting. Their funder drive numbers have gone > steadily up for the past two days. > > > > > > > On Mar 2, 2017 8:16 AM, "Yaney LA MacIver" com> wrote: > > So why was Cynthia McKinney's show taken off. And what about Safe Harbor? > > > Qapla > > Yaney LA MacIver > 541-829-9788 <(541)%20829-9788> > http://owensvalleygirl.wordpress.com > > On Mar 2, 2017, at 7:51 AM, Tracy Rosenberg wrote: > > Management change. A good one. There were serious problems with third > party fundraising, copyright infringements, plugola and premium defaults. > > A block of late night programs based around on air profanity were taken > off after a year on air. Some will get new time slots, some won't. Some > affected programmers upset. > > > > On Mar 2, 2017 7:47 AM, "Yaney LA MacIver via grc" > wrote: > > So what's going on at KPFK? > > Qapla > > Yaney LA MacIver > 541-829-9788 > http://owensvalleygirl.wordpress.com > > > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > > > > -- Tracy Rosenberg Executive Director Media Alliance 2830 20th Street, Suite 102 San Francisco CA 94110 www.media-alliance.org (415) 746-9475 510-684-6853 Cell tracy at media-alliance.org From wings at wings.org Sun Mar 5 14:49:45 2017 From: wings at wings.org (Frieda Werden) Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2017 17:49:45 -0500 Subject: [grc] Audio from Sister Marches sought Message-ID: Looking for good audio clips ASAP from Sister Marches (held in solidarity with the big Women's March in DC) from anywhere in the Americas. Pictures, too, if you have them. Cheers, Frieda (This will be the companion piece to the show WINGS is releasing tonight about sister marches in Europe) -- Frieda Werden, Series Producer WINGS: Women's International News Gathering Service www.wings.org From musazwana at gmail.com Mon Mar 6 12:51:16 2017 From: musazwana at gmail.com (Musa Zwana) Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2017 15:51:16 -0500 Subject: [grc] Help with Underwriting Message-ID: So our station (WCAA-LP 107.3 FM - Albany, NY) is on the air as of Feb 18, 2017. We drafted a Underwriting Contract, using samples and examples that people have graciously sent us) but we are looking for someone to review it for us before we take it to the streets. Does anyone have any suggestions on who could help us? ******************************** Musa Zwana 518-365-4228 www.wcaa1073.org From c.readingnews at gmail.com Wed Mar 8 21:50:02 2017 From: c.readingnews at gmail.com (Caitlin Reading) Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2017 23:50:02 -0600 Subject: [grc] When and where is GRC 2017? In-Reply-To: <20170302151139.759321ce@floyd.freeelectron.net> References: <20170302151139.759321ce@floyd.freeelectron.net> Message-ID: Hello, Is it time to put station candidates 'in a hat' ? I may have 1 or 2......caitlin reading On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 2:11 PM, al davis via grc wrote: > On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 13:32:28 -0500 > Jim Giddings via grc wrote: > > Also, was there a decision on a > > permanent website/URL for the conference? > > I have registered the domain name "grassrootsradioconference.com". > > (some time ago) > > So let's use it as a permanent URL. > > For now, it points to grc2016.net, last year's conference. > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > From simon at kmud.org Fri Mar 10 10:24:16 2017 From: simon at kmud.org (Simon Frech) Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2017 10:24:16 -0800 Subject: [grc] Allen & Heath XB14 MK2, on-air light Message-ID: <00A5331C-2860-4B59-B472-885314CEC58C@kmud.org> This week I was helping an LPFM station with some wiring. They use the Allen & Heath XB14 MK2 mixer and have a Sandies brand on-air light. According to the manual the Remote A connector pins 1 and 8 will provide connectivity when Mic 1 is on and fader is up (a little ways). I did measure continuity with a multimeter, but when I connected the negative from the 12V power supply for a Sandies On Air light, the LEDs start glowing even before the fader is up. With the fader up completely, the LEDs are a bit brighter, but the difference is hard to tell. Someone from the station had purchased a relay, but putting that in the circuit didn?t solve the problem. I understand the XB14 is in use at many LPFM stations, and the Sandies lights are popular, so how does one connect these things? Thanks, Simon Frech From david at ibisradio.org Sat Mar 18 08:04:48 2017 From: david at ibisradio.org (David Goodman) Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2017 11:04:48 -0400 Subject: [grc] Will you indulge me this one appeal? New program! Message-ID: Friends and colleagues: I know the list-serv has prohibitions on marketing directly to stations. But I hope you'll indulge this one attempt to gain feedback on my first time attempt to produce a show for national distribution. It's called "SOUND and FURY." The tagline is: "unconventional wisdom meets dramatic radio." The show is a political storytelling mash-up of spoken word and music. Inspired by Negativland's "It's All In Your Head" and Peter Bochan's "Shortcuts." I'd like to offer the weekly hour long program to non-commercial community, college, and LPFM stations with Creative Common BY rights with an agreement that the show gets broadcast exclusively over the air (or live streaming) before being posted on-line. A 6:21 long demo and my most recent mix (29:00) lives here: https://www.mixcloud.com/davegoodman/. Feedback - especially from decision makers at stations - is greatly appreciated! Cheers, dave goodman, Independent Broadcast Information Service Boston, MA ibisradio at gmail.com Skype: ibisradio -- I.B.I.S. Radio Jamaica Plain, Boston, MA From Communityradiogoddess at yahoo.com Sun Mar 19 17:43:46 2017 From: Communityradiogoddess at yahoo.com (Donna) Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2017 20:43:46 -0400 Subject: [grc] Will you indulge me this one appeal? New program! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <551B1E5D-C3A3-4667-A34F-16F2F96FA332@yahoo.com> Hope you sent this to Sprouts! Donna DiBianco Station Start-up Specialist > On Mar 18, 2017, at 11:04 AM, David Goodman via grc wrote: > > Friends and colleagues: > > I know the list-serv has prohibitions on marketing directly to stations. > But I hope you'll indulge this one attempt to gain feedback on my first > time attempt to produce a show for national distribution. > > It's called "SOUND and FURY." The tagline is: "unconventional wisdom meets > dramatic radio." The show is a political storytelling mash-up of spoken > word and music. Inspired by Negativland's "It's All In Your Head" and Peter > Bochan's "Shortcuts." > > I'd like to offer the weekly hour long program to non-commercial community, > college, and LPFM stations with Creative Common BY rights with an agreement > that the show gets broadcast exclusively over the air (or live streaming) > before being posted on-line. > > A 6:21 long demo and my most recent mix (29:00) lives here: > https://www.mixcloud.com/davegoodman/. Feedback - especially from decision > makers at stations - is greatly appreciated! > > Cheers, > dave goodman, > Independent Broadcast Information Service > Boston, MA > > ibisradio at gmail.com > Skype: ibisradio > > > > -- > I.B.I.S. Radio > Jamaica Plain, Boston, MA > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc From wings at wings.org Sun Mar 19 19:13:06 2017 From: wings at wings.org (Frieda Werden) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 02:13:06 +0000 Subject: [grc] Will you indulge me this one appeal? New program! In-Reply-To: <551B1E5D-C3A3-4667-A34F-16F2F96FA332@yahoo.com> References: <551B1E5D-C3A3-4667-A34F-16F2F96FA332@yahoo.com> Message-ID: How about all of us on this list who are producing for distribution get a one-time amnesty once a year to send info about our programs to the list? I would be interested to know who else is out there doing this kind of work these days. On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 8:44 PM Donna via grc wrote: > Hope you sent this to Sprouts! > > Donna DiBianco > Station Start-up Specialist > > > On Mar 18, 2017, at 11:04 AM, David Goodman via grc < > grc at maillist.peak.org> wrote: > > > > Friends and colleagues: > > > > I know the list-serv has prohibitions on marketing directly to stations. > > But I hope you'll indulge this one attempt to gain feedback on my first > > time attempt to produce a show for national distribution. > > > > It's called "SOUND and FURY." The tagline is: "unconventional wisdom > meets > > dramatic radio." The show is a political storytelling mash-up of spoken > > word and music. Inspired by Negativland's "It's All In Your Head" and > Peter > > Bochan's "Shortcuts." > > > > I'd like to offer the weekly hour long program to non-commercial > community, > > college, and LPFM stations with Creative Common BY rights with an > agreement > > that the show gets broadcast exclusively over the air (or live streaming) > > before being posted on-line. > > > > A 6:21 long demo and my most recent mix (29:00) lives here: > > https://www.mixcloud.com/davegoodman/. Feedback - especially from > decision > > makers at stations - is greatly appreciated! > > > > Cheers, > > dave goodman, > > Independent Broadcast Information Service > > Boston, MA > > > > ibisradio at gmail.com > > Skype: ibisradio > > > > > > > > -- > > I.B.I.S. Radio > > Jamaica Plain, Boston, MA > > _______________________________________________ > > grc mailing list > > grc at maillist.peak.org > > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > > > > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > -- Frieda Werden, Series Producer WINGS: Women's International News Gathering Service www.wings.org From pbame at prometheusradio.org Mon Mar 20 07:19:33 2017 From: pbame at prometheusradio.org (Paul Bame) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 10:19:33 -0400 Subject: [grc] Radio Silence series starting soon (Iraq) Message-ID: Conceived by artist Michael Rakowitz, Radio Silence returns famed Iraqi broadcaster Bahjat Abdulawahed to the airwaves after decades of absence in the surreal world of ?Radio Baghdad.? Bringing together the voices and talents of Iraqi refugees, Iraq War veterans, and musicians and performers, the program weaves elements of experimental documentary, radio plays, sound collage, and variety programs to frame the real experiences and talents of participants and reconstruct an Iraq dematerialized by literal destruction and diasporic separation. Radio Silence will launch with a live performance on Independence Mall in Philadelphia on July 29, 2017 (with a simulcast on PhillyCAM TV), and a ten episode special radio event to follow, broadcast on WPPM PhillyCAM radio and other community radio stations across the country. The project can be seen as an alternative form of public art?trading the street corner for the public airwaves, and representation via images for evocation via voice and sound. Partners include Warrior Writers, Prometheus Radio project, and PhillyCAM. For more info go here: https://www.muralarts.org/radiosilencedistro/ Paul (pablito) Bame Prometheus Radio Project , Engineering Director 215.727.9620 x505 N0KCL/3 From jama at asis.com Mon Mar 20 07:39:55 2017 From: jama at asis.com (Jama) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 07:39:55 -0700 Subject: [grc] Will you indulge me this one appeal? New program! In-Reply-To: References: <551B1E5D-C3A3-4667-A34F-16F2F96FA332@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5E37DB60-2BA9-41CE-8217-CE47C0991EF4@asis.com> I think that's a great idea. (And, hadn't heard about this prohibition.) On Mar 19, 2017, at 7:13 PM, Frieda Werden via grc wrote: > How about all of us on this list who are producing for distribution get a > one-time amnesty once a year to send info about our programs to the list? > I would be interested to know who else is out there doing this kind of work > these days. > > >>> On Mar 18, 2017, at 11:04 AM, David Goodman via grc < >> grc at maillist.peak.org> wrote: >>> >>> Friends and colleagues: >>> >>> I know the list-serv has prohibitions on marketing directly to stations. >>> But I hope you'll indulge this one attempt to gain feedback on my first >>> time attempt to produce a show for national distribution. >>> >>> It's called "SOUND and FURY." The tagline is: "unconventional wisdom >> meets >>> dramatic radio." The show is a political storytelling mash-up of spoken >>> word and music. Inspired by Negativland's "It's All In Your Head" and >> Peter >>> Bochan's "Shortcuts." >>> >>> I'd like to offer the weekly hour long program to non-commercial >> community, >>> college, and LPFM stations with Creative Common BY rights with an >> agreement >>> that the show gets broadcast exclusively over the air (or live streaming) >>> before being posted on-line. >>> >>> A 6:21 long demo and my most recent mix (29:00) lives here: >>> https://www.mixcloud.com/davegoodman/. Feedback - especially from >> decision >>> makers at stations - is greatly appreciated! >>> >>> Cheers, >>> dave goodman, >>> Independent Broadcast Information Service >>> Boston, MA >>> >>> ibisradio at gmail.com >>> Skype: ibisradio >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> I.B.I.S. Radio >>> Jamaica Plain, Boston, MA >>> _______________________________________________ >>> grc mailing list >>> grc at maillist.peak.org >>> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> grc mailing list >> grc at maillist.peak.org >> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc >> > -- > Frieda Werden, Series Producer > WINGS: Women's International News Gathering Service www.wings.org > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > From tuc at tucradio.org Mon Mar 20 10:22:32 2017 From: tuc at tucradio.org (Maria Gilardin) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 10:22:32 -0700 Subject: [grc] Will you indulge me this one appeal? New program! In-Reply-To: <5E37DB60-2BA9-41CE-8217-CE47C0991EF4@asis.com> References: <551B1E5D-C3A3-4667-A34F-16F2F96FA332@yahoo.com> <5E37DB60-2BA9-41CE-8217-CE47C0991EF4@asis.com> Message-ID: Hi Jama, I remember that the prohibition was for producers like Frieda and I who put out weekly shows not to flood the list with each release - but I also would like to see who else is distributing and it was fun to read about Dave. Once a year seems fair and whenever something goes into distribution for the first time, like Sound and Fury. Maria Gilardin/TUC Radio PO Box 44/Calpella, CA, 95418 (707) 463-2654 http://www.tucradio.org On 3/20/2017 7:39 AM, Jama via grc wrote: > I think that's a great idea. (And, hadn't heard about this prohibition.) > > > On Mar 19, 2017, at 7:13 PM, Frieda Werden via grc wrote: > >> How about all of us on this list who are producing for distribution get a >> one-time amnesty once a year to send info about our programs to the list? >> I would be interested to know who else is out there doing this kind of work >> these days. >> >> >>>> On Mar 18, 2017, at 11:04 AM, David Goodman via grc < >>> grc at maillist.peak.org> wrote: >>>> Friends and colleagues: >>>> >>>> I know the list-serv has prohibitions on marketing directly to stations. >>>> But I hope you'll indulge this one attempt to gain feedback on my first >>>> time attempt to produce a show for national distribution. >>>> >>>> It's called "SOUND and FURY." The tagline is: "unconventional wisdom >>> meets >>>> dramatic radio." The show is a political storytelling mash-up of spoken >>>> word and music. Inspired by Negativland's "It's All In Your Head" and >>> Peter >>>> Bochan's "Shortcuts." >>>> >>>> I'd like to offer the weekly hour long program to non-commercial >>> community, >>>> college, and LPFM stations with Creative Common BY rights with an >>> agreement >>>> that the show gets broadcast exclusively over the air (or live streaming) >>>> before being posted on-line. >>>> >>>> A 6:21 long demo and my most recent mix (29:00) lives here: >>>> https://www.mixcloud.com/davegoodman/. Feedback - especially from >>> decision >>>> makers at stations - is greatly appreciated! >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> dave goodman, >>>> Independent Broadcast Information Service >>>> Boston, MA >>>> >>>> ibisradio at gmail.com >>>> Skype: ibisradio >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> I.B.I.S. Radio >>>> Jamaica Plain, Boston, MA >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> grc mailing list >>>> grc at maillist.peak.org >>>> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> grc mailing list >>> grc at maillist.peak.org >>> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc >>> >> -- >> Frieda Werden, Series Producer >> WINGS: Women's International News Gathering Service www.wings.org >> _______________________________________________ >> grc mailing list >> grc at maillist.peak.org >> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc >> > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc From dklann at wdrt.org Mon Mar 20 10:27:26 2017 From: dklann at wdrt.org (David Klann) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 12:27:26 -0500 Subject: [grc] Will you indulge me this one appeal? New program! In-Reply-To: References: <551B1E5D-C3A3-4667-A34F-16F2F96FA332@yahoo.com> <5E37DB60-2BA9-41CE-8217-CE47C0991EF4@asis.com> Message-ID: As the current "list cop" I support this idea! Occasionally promoting a program seems like a reasonable idea and might help spread the word for producers. I would hope that people know how to self-restrain. :) ~David Klann On 03/20/2017 12:22 PM, Maria Gilardin via grc wrote: > Hi Jama, I remember that the prohibition was for producers like Frieda > and I who put out weekly shows not to flood the list with each release - > but I also would like to see who else is distributing and it was fun to > read about Dave. Once a year seems fair and whenever something goes into > distribution for the first time, like Sound and Fury. > > Maria Gilardin/TUC Radio > PO Box 44/Calpella, CA, 95418 > (707) 463-2654 > http://www.tucradio.org > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 195 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From mbbm at brownbroadcast.com Tue Mar 21 10:56:50 2017 From: mbbm at brownbroadcast.com (Betty McArdle) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2017 10:56:50 -0700 Subject: [grc] Will you indulge me this one appeal? New program! In-Reply-To: References: <551B1E5D-C3A3-4667-A34F-16F2F96FA332@yahoo.com> Message-ID: I find this proposed sharing of possible programming to be an essential part of Community Radio. I would like to see what community radio producers and producing. Betty McArdle CMAP betty at c-map.org -----Original Message----- From: grc [mailto:grc-bounces at maillist.peak.org] On Behalf Of Frieda Werden via grc Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 7:13 PM To: David Goodman; Donna Cc: GRC Subject: Re: [grc] Will you indulge me this one appeal? New program! How about all of us on this list who are producing for distribution get a one-time amnesty once a year to send info about our programs to the list? I would be interested to know who else is out there doing this kind of work these days. On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 8:44 PM Donna via grc wrote: > Hope you sent this to Sprouts! > > Donna DiBianco > Station Start-up Specialist > > > On Mar 18, 2017, at 11:04 AM, David Goodman via grc < > grc at maillist.peak.org> wrote: > > > > Friends and colleagues: > > > > I know the list-serv has prohibitions on marketing directly to stations. > > But I hope you'll indulge this one attempt to gain feedback on my > > first time attempt to produce a show for national distribution. > > > > It's called "SOUND and FURY." The tagline is: "unconventional wisdom > meets > > dramatic radio." The show is a political storytelling mash-up of > > spoken word and music. Inspired by Negativland's "It's All In Your > > Head" and > Peter > > Bochan's "Shortcuts." > > > > I'd like to offer the weekly hour long program to non-commercial > community, > > college, and LPFM stations with Creative Common BY rights with an > agreement > > that the show gets broadcast exclusively over the air (or live > > streaming) before being posted on-line. > > > > A 6:21 long demo and my most recent mix (29:00) lives here: > > https://www.mixcloud.com/davegoodman/. Feedback - especially from > decision > > makers at stations - is greatly appreciated! > > > > Cheers, > > dave goodman, > > Independent Broadcast Information Service Boston, MA > > > > ibisradio at gmail.com > > Skype: ibisradio > > > > > > > > -- > > I.B.I.S. Radio > > Jamaica Plain, Boston, MA > > _______________________________________________ > > grc mailing list > > grc at maillist.peak.org > > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > > > > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > -- Frieda Werden, Series Producer WINGS: Women's International News Gathering Service www.wings.org _______________________________________________ grc mailing list grc at maillist.peak.org http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc From wendy at radio4houston.org Tue Mar 21 12:43:33 2017 From: wendy at radio4houston.org (Wendy Schroell) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2017 14:43:33 -0500 Subject: [grc] How about a poll of the list members? Re: Will you indulge me this one appeal? New program! Message-ID: I agree with Betty that programming is a perfect thing to share on this list. Maybe the prohibition is outdated. There doesn't seem to be very much traffic on grc at peak.org these days - at this point maybe the members could be polled to see if they want to have program descriptions and subjects promoted here? Or there could be a separate list for programming - that kind of defeats the purpose though if everyone doesn't see it. wendy On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 12:56 PM, Betty McArdle via grc < grc at maillist.peak.org> wrote: > I find this proposed sharing of possible programming to be an essential > part > of Community Radio. I would like to see what community radio producers and > producing. > > Betty McArdle > CMAP > betty at c-map.org > > -----Original Message----- > From: grc [mailto:grc-bounces at maillist.peak.org] On Behalf Of Frieda > Werden > via grc > Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 7:13 PM > To: David Goodman; Donna > Cc: GRC > Subject: Re: [grc] Will you indulge me this one appeal? New program! > > How about all of us on this list who are producing for distribution get a > one-time amnesty once a year to send info about our programs to the list? > I would be interested to know who else is out there doing this kind of work > these days. > > > On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 8:44 PM Donna via grc > wrote: > > > Hope you sent this to Sprouts! > > > > Donna DiBianco > > Station Start-up Specialist > > > > > On Mar 18, 2017, at 11:04 AM, David Goodman via grc < > > grc at maillist.peak.org> wrote: > > > > > > Friends and colleagues: > > > > > > I know the list-serv has prohibitions on marketing directly to > stations. > > > But I hope you'll indulge this one attempt to gain feedback on my > > > first time attempt to produce a show for national distribution. > > > > > > It's called "SOUND and FURY." The tagline is: "unconventional wisdom > > meets > > > dramatic radio." The show is a political storytelling mash-up of > > > spoken word and music. Inspired by Negativland's "It's All In Your > > > Head" and > > Peter > > > Bochan's "Shortcuts." > > > > > > I'd like to offer the weekly hour long program to non-commercial > > community, > > > college, and LPFM stations with Creative Common BY rights with an > > agreement > > > that the show gets broadcast exclusively over the air (or live > > > streaming) before being posted on-line. > > > > > > A 6:21 long demo and my most recent mix (29:00) lives here: > > > https://www.mixcloud.com/davegoodman/. Feedback - especially from > > decision > > > makers at stations - is greatly appreciated! > > > > > > Cheers, > > > dave goodman, > > > Independent Broadcast Information Service Boston, MA > > > > > > ibisradio at gmail.com > > > Skype: ibisradio > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > I.B.I.S. Radio > > > Jamaica Plain, Boston, MA > > > _______________________________________________ > > > grc mailing list > > > grc at maillist.peak.org > > > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > grc mailing list > > grc at maillist.peak.org > > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > > > -- > Frieda Werden, Series Producer > WINGS: Women's International News Gathering Service www.wings.org > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > > > > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > From david at ibisradio.org Tue Mar 21 13:56:23 2017 From: david at ibisradio.org (David Goodman) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2017 16:56:23 -0400 Subject: [grc] How about a poll of the list members? Re: Will you indulge me this one appeal? New program! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Regardless of how this resolves, I'm glad the discussion is happening. As far as *my *show goes, I've received little in the way of critical comments. A friend says the intro is waaay too long so I'm considering shortening that. But if anyone listens to the "Ides of Trump" mix, I'd love some feedback. Cheers, dg On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 3:43 PM, Wendy Schroell via grc < grc at maillist.peak.org> wrote: > I agree with Betty that programming is a perfect thing to share on this > list. Maybe the prohibition is outdated. > > There doesn't seem to be very much traffic on grc at peak.org these days - at > this point maybe the members could be polled to see if they want to have > program descriptions and subjects promoted here? > > Or there could be a separate list for programming - that kind of defeats > the purpose though if everyone doesn't see it. > > wendy > > > > -- I.B.I.S. Radio Jamaica Plain, Boston, MA From 26ftasl at gmail.com Tue Mar 21 17:39:22 2017 From: 26ftasl at gmail.com (John Halpin) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2017 20:39:22 -0400 Subject: [grc] Will you indulge me this one appeal? New program! In-Reply-To: References: <551B1E5D-C3A3-4667-A34F-16F2F96FA332@yahoo.com> Message-ID: Kudos to David for taking the Bigly step ! I like the idea of sharing programming ideas and availability occasionally on this list. Good way to get the word out to others in the community radio world especially for those who do not have network affiliation. A separate list would probably be better, though, if to be used to announce programs on a regular basis. John Halpin HarpswellRadio.org john.halpin at harpswellradio.org On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 1:56 PM, Betty McArdle via grc < grc at maillist.peak.org> wrote: > I find this proposed sharing of possible programming to be an essential > part > of Community Radio. I would like to see what community radio producers and > producing. > > Betty McArdle > CMAP > betty at c-map.org > > -----Original Message----- > From: grc [mailto:grc-bounces at maillist.peak.org] On Behalf Of Frieda > Werden > via grc > Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 7:13 PM > To: David Goodman; Donna > Cc: GRC > Subject: Re: [grc] Will you indulge me this one appeal? New program! > > How about all of us on this list who are producing for distribution get a > one-time amnesty once a year to send info about our programs to the list? > I would be interested to know who else is out there doing this kind of work > these days. > > > On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 8:44 PM Donna via grc > wrote: > > > Hope you sent this to Sprouts! > > > > Donna DiBianco > > Station Start-up Specialist > > > > > On Mar 18, 2017, at 11:04 AM, David Goodman via grc < > > grc at maillist.peak.org> wrote: > > > > > > Friends and colleagues: > > > > > > I know the list-serv has prohibitions on marketing directly to > stations. > > > But I hope you'll indulge this one attempt to gain feedback on my > > > first time attempt to produce a show for national distribution. > > > > > > It's called "SOUND and FURY." The tagline is: "unconventional wisdom > > meets > > > dramatic radio." The show is a political storytelling mash-up of > > > spoken word and music. Inspired by Negativland's "It's All In Your > > > Head" and > > Peter > > > Bochan's "Shortcuts." > > > > > > I'd like to offer the weekly hour long program to non-commercial > > community, > > > college, and LPFM stations with Creative Common BY rights with an > > agreement > > > that the show gets broadcast exclusively over the air (or live > > > streaming) before being posted on-line. > > > > > > A 6:21 long demo and my most recent mix (29:00) lives here: > > > https://www.mixcloud.com/davegoodman/. Feedback - especially from > > decision > > > makers at stations - is greatly appreciated! > > > > > > Cheers, > > > dave goodman, > > > Independent Broadcast Information Service Boston, MA > > > > > > ibisradio at gmail.com > > > Skype: ibisradio > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > I.B.I.S. Radio > > > Jamaica Plain, Boston, MA > > > _______________________________________________ > > > grc mailing list > > > grc at maillist.peak.org > > > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > grc mailing list > > grc at maillist.peak.org > > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > > > -- > Frieda Werden, Series Producer > WINGS: Women's International News Gathering Service www.wings.org > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > > > > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > From simon at kmud.org Tue Mar 21 18:32:05 2017 From: simon at kmud.org (Simon Frech) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2017 18:32:05 -0700 Subject: [grc] Will you indulge me this one appeal? New program! In-Reply-To: References: <551B1E5D-C3A3-4667-A34F-16F2F96FA332@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4165A99F-1B0E-4814-ACBA-45D1617C27EF@kmud.org> I?m not opposed to occasional announcements of new shows. Just want y?all to know that there is already a pretty active list that?s used for this type of announcement: pacificaannounce at yahoogroups.com It has 614 members according to its homepage https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/pacificaannounce/info Simon > On Mar 21, 2017, at 5:39 PM, John Halpin via grc wrote: > > Kudos to David for taking the Bigly step ! > > I like the idea of sharing programming ideas and availability occasionally > on this list. Good way to get the word out to others in the community > radio world especially for those who do not have network affiliation. A > separate list would probably be better, though, if to be used to announce > programs on a regular basis. > > John Halpin > HarpswellRadio.org > john.halpin at harpswellradio.org > > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 1:56 PM, Betty McArdle via grc < > grc at maillist.peak.org> wrote: > >> I find this proposed sharing of possible programming to be an essential >> part >> of Community Radio. I would like to see what community radio producers and >> producing. >> >> Betty McArdle >> CMAP >> betty at c-map.org >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: grc [mailto:grc-bounces at maillist.peak.org] On Behalf Of Frieda >> Werden >> via grc >> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 7:13 PM >> To: David Goodman; Donna >> Cc: GRC >> Subject: Re: [grc] Will you indulge me this one appeal? New program! >> >> How about all of us on this list who are producing for distribution get a >> one-time amnesty once a year to send info about our programs to the list? >> I would be interested to know who else is out there doing this kind of work >> these days. >> >> >> On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 8:44 PM Donna via grc >> wrote: >> >>> Hope you sent this to Sprouts! >>> >>> Donna DiBianco >>> Station Start-up Specialist >>> >>>> On Mar 18, 2017, at 11:04 AM, David Goodman via grc < >>> grc at maillist.peak.org> wrote: >>>> >>>> Friends and colleagues: >>>> >>>> I know the list-serv has prohibitions on marketing directly to >> stations. >>>> But I hope you'll indulge this one attempt to gain feedback on my >>>> first time attempt to produce a show for national distribution. >>>> >>>> It's called "SOUND and FURY." The tagline is: "unconventional wisdom >>> meets >>>> dramatic radio." The show is a political storytelling mash-up of >>>> spoken word and music. Inspired by Negativland's "It's All In Your >>>> Head" and >>> Peter >>>> Bochan's "Shortcuts." >>>> >>>> I'd like to offer the weekly hour long program to non-commercial >>> community, >>>> college, and LPFM stations with Creative Common BY rights with an >>> agreement >>>> that the show gets broadcast exclusively over the air (or live >>>> streaming) before being posted on-line. >>>> >>>> A 6:21 long demo and my most recent mix (29:00) lives here: >>>> https://www.mixcloud.com/davegoodman/. Feedback - especially from >>> decision >>>> makers at stations - is greatly appreciated! >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> dave goodman, >>>> Independent Broadcast Information Service Boston, MA >>>> >>>> ibisradio at gmail.com >>>> Skype: ibisradio >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> I.B.I.S. Radio >>>> Jamaica Plain, Boston, MA >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> grc mailing list >>>> grc at maillist.peak.org >>>> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> grc mailing list >>> grc at maillist.peak.org >>> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc >>> >> -- >> Frieda Werden, Series Producer >> WINGS: Women's International News Gathering Service www.wings.org >> _______________________________________________ >> grc mailing list >> grc at maillist.peak.org >> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> grc mailing list >> grc at maillist.peak.org >> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc >> > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc From john at soundsofdissent.org Wed Mar 22 10:40:15 2017 From: john at soundsofdissent.org (John Grebe) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2017 13:40:15 -0400 Subject: [grc] Will you indulge me this one appeal? New program! In-Reply-To: References: , , Message-ID: <58D2B6FF.26011.19D5A4BE@john.soundsofdissent.org> People do not know how to self-restrain, for even once per year postings. Some producers are super-promoters, and it doesn't equate to quality of programming. Only after subscribing for 6 months should a list member be allowed to send a promotion/announcement of their program. This is not a producers' or program directors' email list specifically. It's a general radio issues list for grassroots radio stations. (I'm a producer-reporter host and radio technician.) I would subscribe to a separate list for producers and/or program directors among the GRC members. In case three producers of one show are all list members: ONLY one program announcement or description PER SHOW (not per producer) may be sent per year, signed with the full name of the poster and all producers involved. Violating that year-long term results in expulsion from the GRC list. I'd want any annual limit enforced harshly. No slippery pushing at the limits by sliding program content into emails ostensibly on other subjects. Frankly, a web link in email is enough promotion so interested "targets" can find weekly descriptions on a web page. If the wrong change is made to list rules, super-promoters and replies to them will burden this general purpose list. There are separate spaces for that elsewhere. If necessary, start a separate email list--perhaps GRC-Programs--to accommodate us producers' show descriptions or announcements. Traffic on the GRC list surges and recedes at times. That's not a reason to flood it with program announcements, where the biggest self-promoters take up the most space. This list is a wonderful resource (and a great reference archive) to learn about obscure important radio knowledge from decades-experienced GRC'ers--information that's not found elsewhere. Program content announcements, however, can be found on producers' own sites and upload sites (like Radio4All, Pacifica's AudioPort, PRX, Content Depot, etc.). The worst effect of regular program announcements or descriptions on this GRC list would be that people like me would stop reading it for all the rest of the content. I watched a local Boston area independent radio list get smacked with programs' (an excellent program, but that's not the point) announcements. It stanched discussion, and diluted the original purpose of the list. How many list member producers are we? Do we want that number of show announcements per week, month or year? Best regards, John - WZBC-FM Boston-Newton On 20 Mar 2017 at 12:27, David Klann via grc wrote: To: grc at maillist.peak.org Organization: WDRT, 91.9fm, Viroqua, WI, US Date sent: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 12:27:26 -0500 Subject: Re: [grc] Will you indulge me this one appeal? New program! From: David Klann via grc Send reply to: dklann at wdrt.org > As the current "list cop" I support this idea! Occasionally promoting > a program seems like a reasonable idea and might help spread the word > for producers. I would hope that people know how to self-restrain. :) > > ~David Klann > > > On 03/20/2017 12:22 PM, Maria Gilardin via grc wrote: > > Hi Jama, I remember that the prohibition was for producers like > > Frieda and I who put out weekly shows not to flood the list with > > each release - but I also would like to see who else is distributing > > and it was fun to read about Dave. Once a year seems fair and > > whenever something goes into distribution for the first time, like > > Sound and Fury. > > > > Maria Gilardin/TUC Radio > > PO Box 44/Calpella, CA, 95418 > > (707) 463-2654 > > http://www.tucradio.org > > > > From andrewstelzer at gmail.com Wed Mar 22 11:02:47 2017 From: andrewstelzer at gmail.com (Andrew Stelzer) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2017 11:02:47 -0700 Subject: [grc] Will you indulge me this one appeal? New program! In-Reply-To: <58D2B6FF.26011.19D5A4BE@john.soundsofdissent.org> References: <58D2B6FF.26011.19D5A4BE@john.soundsofdissent.org> Message-ID: I agree with John 102%,(extra 2 because I advocate zero program announcements here, not 1 per year) Self-restraint is a pipe dream, especially amongst 'promoters'--by definition. The pacificaannounce list exists for exactly this purpose--for program announcements. Allowing program announcements on the GRC list will drive people(and entire stations) from this list that need it as a crucial resource...and will also dilute the strength of Pacifica-announce as a clear source of what its intended for--peopel will get confused as to which list to post to, etc. We all end up weaker. go here!!!: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/pacificaannounce/info On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 10:40 AM, John Grebe via grc wrote: > People do not know how to self-restrain, for even once per year postings. > Some producers are > super-promoters, and it doesn't equate to quality of programming. > > Only after subscribing for 6 months should a list member be allowed to > send a > promotion/announcement of their program. > > This is not a producers' or program directors' email list specifically. > It's a general radio issues list for > grassroots radio stations. (I'm a producer-reporter host and radio > technician.) I would subscribe to a > separate list for producers and/or program directors among the GRC members. > > In case three producers of one show are all list members: ONLY one > program announcement or > description PER SHOW (not per producer) may be sent per year, signed with > the full name of the > poster and all producers involved. Violating that year-long term results > in expulsion from the GRC > list. I'd want any annual limit enforced harshly. No slippery pushing at > the limits by sliding program > content into emails ostensibly on other subjects. Frankly, a web link in > email is enough promotion so > interested "targets" can find weekly descriptions on a web page. > > If the wrong change is made to list rules, super-promoters and replies to > them will burden this > general purpose list. > > There are separate spaces for that elsewhere. If necessary, start a > separate email list--perhaps > GRC-Programs--to accommodate us producers' show descriptions or > announcements. > > Traffic on the GRC list surges and recedes at times. That's not a reason > to flood it with program > announcements, where the biggest self-promoters take up the most space. > This list is a wonderful > resource (and a great reference archive) to learn about obscure important > radio knowledge from > decades-experienced GRC'ers--information that's not found elsewhere. > Program content > announcements, however, can be found on producers' own sites and upload > sites (like Radio4All, > Pacifica's AudioPort, PRX, Content Depot, etc.). > > The worst effect of regular program announcements or descriptions on this > GRC list would be that > people like me would stop reading it for all the rest of the content. I > watched a local Boston area > independent radio list get smacked with programs' (an excellent program, > but that's not the point) > announcements. It stanched discussion, and diluted the original purpose of > the list. > > How many list member producers are we? Do we want that number of show > announcements per > week, month or year? > > Best regards, > John > - > WZBC-FM Boston-Newton > > > > On 20 Mar 2017 at 12:27, David Klann via grc wrote: > > To: grc at maillist.peak.org > Organization: WDRT, 91.9fm, Viroqua, WI, US > Date sent: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 12:27:26 -0500 > Subject: Re: [grc] Will you indulge me this one appeal? New program! > From: David Klann via grc > Send reply to: dklann at wdrt.org > > > As the current "list cop" I support this idea! Occasionally promoting > > a program seems like a reasonable idea and might help spread the word > > for producers. I would hope that people know how to self-restrain. :) > > > > ~David Klann > > > > > > On 03/20/2017 12:22 PM, Maria Gilardin via grc wrote: > > > Hi Jama, I remember that the prohibition was for producers like > > > Frieda and I who put out weekly shows not to flood the list with > > > each release - but I also would like to see who else is distributing > > > and it was fun to read about Dave. Once a year seems fair and > > > whenever something goes into distribution for the first time, like > > > Sound and Fury. > > > > > > Maria Gilardin/TUC Radio > > > PO Box 44/Calpella, CA, 95418 > > > (707) 463-2654 > > > http://www.tucradio.org > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > From wings at wings.org Wed Mar 22 14:06:20 2017 From: wings at wings.org (Frieda Werden) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2017 21:06:20 +0000 Subject: [grc] Will you indulge me this one appeal? New program! In-Reply-To: References: <58D2B6FF.26011.19D5A4BE@john.soundsofdissent.org> Message-ID: Many grc members are not Pacifica affiliates, I think. On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 11:04 AM Andrew Stelzer via grc < grc at maillist.peak.org> wrote: > I agree with John 102%,(extra 2 because I advocate zero program > announcements here, not 1 per year) > > Self-restraint is a pipe dream, especially amongst 'promoters'--by > definition. > > The pacificaannounce list exists for exactly this purpose--for program > announcements. Allowing program announcements on the GRC list will drive > people(and entire stations) from this list that need it as a crucial > resource...and will also dilute the strength of Pacifica-announce as a > clear source of what its intended for--peopel will get confused as to which > list to post to, etc. We all end up weaker. > > go here!!!: > https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/pacificaannounce/info > > > On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 10:40 AM, John Grebe via grc < > grc at maillist.peak.org> > wrote: > > > People do not know how to self-restrain, for even once per year postings. > > Some producers are > > super-promoters, and it doesn't equate to quality of programming. > > > > Only after subscribing for 6 months should a list member be allowed to > > send a > > promotion/announcement of their program. > > > > This is not a producers' or program directors' email list specifically. > > It's a general radio issues list for > > grassroots radio stations. (I'm a producer-reporter host and radio > > technician.) I would subscribe to a > > separate list for producers and/or program directors among the GRC > members. > > > > In case three producers of one show are all list members: ONLY one > > program announcement or > > description PER SHOW (not per producer) may be sent per year, signed with > > the full name of the > > poster and all producers involved. Violating that year-long term results > > in expulsion from the GRC > > list. I'd want any annual limit enforced harshly. No slippery pushing at > > the limits by sliding program > > content into emails ostensibly on other subjects. Frankly, a web link in > > email is enough promotion so > > interested "targets" can find weekly descriptions on a web page. > > > > If the wrong change is made to list rules, super-promoters and replies to > > them will burden this > > general purpose list. > > > > There are separate spaces for that elsewhere. If necessary, start a > > separate email list--perhaps > > GRC-Programs--to accommodate us producers' show descriptions or > > announcements. > > > > Traffic on the GRC list surges and recedes at times. That's not a reason > > to flood it with program > > announcements, where the biggest self-promoters take up the most space. > > This list is a wonderful > > resource (and a great reference archive) to learn about obscure important > > radio knowledge from > > decades-experienced GRC'ers--information that's not found elsewhere. > > Program content > > announcements, however, can be found on producers' own sites and upload > > sites (like Radio4All, > > Pacifica's AudioPort, PRX, Content Depot, etc.). > > > > The worst effect of regular program announcements or descriptions on this > > GRC list would be that > > people like me would stop reading it for all the rest of the content. I > > watched a local Boston area > > independent radio list get smacked with programs' (an excellent program, > > but that's not the point) > > announcements. It stanched discussion, and diluted the original purpose > of > > the list. > > > > How many list member producers are we? Do we want that number of show > > announcements per > > week, month or year? > > > > Best regards, > > John > > - > > WZBC-FM Boston-Newton > > > > > > > > On 20 Mar 2017 at 12:27, David Klann via grc wrote: > > > > To: grc at maillist.peak.org > > Organization: WDRT, 91.9fm, Viroqua, WI, US > > Date sent: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 12:27:26 -0500 > > Subject: Re: [grc] Will you indulge me this one appeal? New > program! > > From: David Klann via grc > > Send reply to: dklann at wdrt.org > > > > > As the current "list cop" I support this idea! Occasionally promoting > > > a program seems like a reasonable idea and might help spread the word > > > for producers. I would hope that people know how to self-restrain. :) > > > > > > ~David Klann > > > > > > > > > On 03/20/2017 12:22 PM, Maria Gilardin via grc wrote: > > > > Hi Jama, I remember that the prohibition was for producers like > > > > Frieda and I who put out weekly shows not to flood the list with > > > > each release - but I also would like to see who else is distributing > > > > and it was fun to read about Dave. Once a year seems fair and > > > > whenever something goes into distribution for the first time, like > > > > Sound and Fury. > > > > > > > > Maria Gilardin/TUC Radio > > > > PO Box 44/Calpella, CA, 95418 > > > > (707) 463-2654 > > > > http://www.tucradio.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > grc mailing list > > grc at maillist.peak.org > > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > > > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > -- Frieda Werden, Series Producer WINGS: Women's International News Gathering Service www.wings.org From kenny at wtsq.org Wed Mar 22 15:14:09 2017 From: kenny at wtsq.org (Kenny Lavender) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2017 18:14:09 -0400 Subject: [grc] Will you indulge me this one appeal? New program! In-Reply-To: References: <58D2B6FF.26011.19D5A4BE@john.soundsofdissent.org> Message-ID: I am not a Pacifica affiliate On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 5:06 PM, Frieda Werden via grc < grc at maillist.peak.org> wrote: > Many grc members are not Pacifica affiliates, I think. > > On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 11:04 AM Andrew Stelzer via grc < > grc at maillist.peak.org> wrote: > > > I agree with John 102%,(extra 2 because I advocate zero program > > announcements here, not 1 per year) > > > > Self-restraint is a pipe dream, especially amongst 'promoters'--by > > definition. > > > > The pacificaannounce list exists for exactly this purpose--for program > > announcements. Allowing program announcements on the GRC list will drive > > people(and entire stations) from this list that need it as a crucial > > resource...and will also dilute the strength of Pacifica-announce as a > > clear source of what its intended for--peopel will get confused as to > which > > list to post to, etc. We all end up weaker. > > > > go here!!!: > > https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/pacificaannounce/info > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 10:40 AM, John Grebe via grc < > > grc at maillist.peak.org> > > wrote: > > > > > People do not know how to self-restrain, for even once per year > postings. > > > Some producers are > > > super-promoters, and it doesn't equate to quality of programming. > > > > > > Only after subscribing for 6 months should a list member be allowed to > > > send a > > > promotion/announcement of their program. > > > > > > This is not a producers' or program directors' email list specifically. > > > It's a general radio issues list for > > > grassroots radio stations. (I'm a producer-reporter host and radio > > > technician.) I would subscribe to a > > > separate list for producers and/or program directors among the GRC > > members. > > > > > > In case three producers of one show are all list members: ONLY one > > > program announcement or > > > description PER SHOW (not per producer) may be sent per year, signed > with > > > the full name of the > > > poster and all producers involved. Violating that year-long term > results > > > in expulsion from the GRC > > > list. I'd want any annual limit enforced harshly. No slippery pushing > at > > > the limits by sliding program > > > content into emails ostensibly on other subjects. Frankly, a web link > in > > > email is enough promotion so > > > interested "targets" can find weekly descriptions on a web page. > > > > > > If the wrong change is made to list rules, super-promoters and replies > to > > > them will burden this > > > general purpose list. > > > > > > There are separate spaces for that elsewhere. If necessary, start a > > > separate email list--perhaps > > > GRC-Programs--to accommodate us producers' show descriptions or > > > announcements. > > > > > > Traffic on the GRC list surges and recedes at times. That's not a > reason > > > to flood it with program > > > announcements, where the biggest self-promoters take up the most space. > > > This list is a wonderful > > > resource (and a great reference archive) to learn about obscure > important > > > radio knowledge from > > > decades-experienced GRC'ers--information that's not found elsewhere. > > > Program content > > > announcements, however, can be found on producers' own sites and upload > > > sites (like Radio4All, > > > Pacifica's AudioPort, PRX, Content Depot, etc.). > > > > > > The worst effect of regular program announcements or descriptions on > this > > > GRC list would be that > > > people like me would stop reading it for all the rest of the content. I > > > watched a local Boston area > > > independent radio list get smacked with programs' (an excellent > program, > > > but that's not the point) > > > announcements. It stanched discussion, and diluted the original purpose > > of > > > the list. > > > > > > How many list member producers are we? Do we want that number of show > > > announcements per > > > week, month or year? > > > > > > Best regards, > > > John > > > - > > > WZBC-FM Boston-Newton > > > > > > > > > > > > On 20 Mar 2017 at 12:27, David Klann via grc wrote: > > > > > > To: grc at maillist.peak.org > > > Organization: WDRT, 91.9fm, Viroqua, WI, US > > > Date sent: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 12:27:26 -0500 > > > Subject: Re: [grc] Will you indulge me this one appeal? New > > program! > > > From: David Klann via grc > > > Send reply to: dklann at wdrt.org > > > > > > > As the current "list cop" I support this idea! Occasionally promoting > > > > a program seems like a reasonable idea and might help spread the word > > > > for producers. I would hope that people know how to self-restrain. :) > > > > > > > > ~David Klann > > > > > > > > > > > > On 03/20/2017 12:22 PM, Maria Gilardin via grc wrote: > > > > > Hi Jama, I remember that the prohibition was for producers like > > > > > Frieda and I who put out weekly shows not to flood the list with > > > > > each release - but I also would like to see who else is > distributing > > > > > and it was fun to read about Dave. Once a year seems fair and > > > > > whenever something goes into distribution for the first time, like > > > > > Sound and Fury. > > > > > > > > > > Maria Gilardin/TUC Radio > > > > > PO Box 44/Calpella, CA, 95418 > > > > > (707) 463-2654 > > > > > http://www.tucradio.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > grc mailing list > > > grc at maillist.peak.org > > > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > grc mailing list > > grc at maillist.peak.org > > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > > > -- > Frieda Werden, Series Producer > WINGS: Women's International News Gathering Service www.wings.org > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > From andrewstelzer at gmail.com Wed Mar 22 15:25:29 2017 From: andrewstelzer at gmail.com (Andrew Stelzer) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2017 15:25:29 -0700 Subject: [grc] Will you indulge me this one appeal? New program! In-Reply-To: References: <58D2B6FF.26011.19D5A4BE@john.soundsofdissent.org> Message-ID: you dont have be a pacifica affliiate to be on that list, and many programs include non-audioport url links for downloading their shows in their posts. On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 3:14 PM, Kenny Lavender wrote: > I am not a Pacifica affiliate > > On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 5:06 PM, Frieda Werden via grc < > grc at maillist.peak.org> wrote: > >> Many grc members are not Pacifica affiliates, I think. >> >> On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 11:04 AM Andrew Stelzer via grc < >> grc at maillist.peak.org> wrote: >> >> > I agree with John 102%,(extra 2 because I advocate zero program >> > announcements here, not 1 per year) >> > >> > Self-restraint is a pipe dream, especially amongst 'promoters'--by >> > definition. >> > >> > The pacificaannounce list exists for exactly this purpose--for program >> > announcements. Allowing program announcements on the GRC list will drive >> > people(and entire stations) from this list that need it as a crucial >> > resource...and will also dilute the strength of Pacifica-announce as a >> > clear source of what its intended for--peopel will get confused as to >> which >> > list to post to, etc. We all end up weaker. >> > >> > go here!!!: >> > https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/pacificaannounce/info >> > >> > >> > On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 10:40 AM, John Grebe via grc < >> > grc at maillist.peak.org> >> > wrote: >> > >> > > People do not know how to self-restrain, for even once per year >> postings. >> > > Some producers are >> > > super-promoters, and it doesn't equate to quality of programming. >> > > >> > > Only after subscribing for 6 months should a list member be allowed to >> > > send a >> > > promotion/announcement of their program. >> > > >> > > This is not a producers' or program directors' email list >> specifically. >> > > It's a general radio issues list for >> > > grassroots radio stations. (I'm a producer-reporter host and radio >> > > technician.) I would subscribe to a >> > > separate list for producers and/or program directors among the GRC >> > members. >> > > >> > > In case three producers of one show are all list members: ONLY one >> > > program announcement or >> > > description PER SHOW (not per producer) may be sent per year, signed >> with >> > > the full name of the >> > > poster and all producers involved. Violating that year-long term >> results >> > > in expulsion from the GRC >> > > list. I'd want any annual limit enforced harshly. No slippery pushing >> at >> > > the limits by sliding program >> > > content into emails ostensibly on other subjects. Frankly, a web link >> in >> > > email is enough promotion so >> > > interested "targets" can find weekly descriptions on a web page. >> > > >> > > If the wrong change is made to list rules, super-promoters and >> replies to >> > > them will burden this >> > > general purpose list. >> > > >> > > There are separate spaces for that elsewhere. If necessary, start a >> > > separate email list--perhaps >> > > GRC-Programs--to accommodate us producers' show descriptions or >> > > announcements. >> > > >> > > Traffic on the GRC list surges and recedes at times. That's not a >> reason >> > > to flood it with program >> > > announcements, where the biggest self-promoters take up the most >> space. >> > > This list is a wonderful >> > > resource (and a great reference archive) to learn about obscure >> important >> > > radio knowledge from >> > > decades-experienced GRC'ers--information that's not found elsewhere. >> > > Program content >> > > announcements, however, can be found on producers' own sites and >> upload >> > > sites (like Radio4All, >> > > Pacifica's AudioPort, PRX, Content Depot, etc.). >> > > >> > > The worst effect of regular program announcements or descriptions on >> this >> > > GRC list would be that >> > > people like me would stop reading it for all the rest of the content. >> I >> > > watched a local Boston area >> > > independent radio list get smacked with programs' (an excellent >> program, >> > > but that's not the point) >> > > announcements. It stanched discussion, and diluted the original >> purpose >> > of >> > > the list. >> > > >> > > How many list member producers are we? Do we want that number of show >> > > announcements per >> > > week, month or year? >> > > >> > > Best regards, >> > > John >> > > - >> > > WZBC-FM Boston-Newton >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > On 20 Mar 2017 at 12:27, David Klann via grc wrote: >> > > >> > > To: grc at maillist.peak.org >> > > Organization: WDRT, 91.9fm, Viroqua, WI, US >> > > Date sent: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 12:27:26 -0500 >> > > Subject: Re: [grc] Will you indulge me this one appeal? New >> > program! >> > > From: David Klann via grc >> > > Send reply to: dklann at wdrt.org >> > > >> > > > As the current "list cop" I support this idea! Occasionally >> promoting >> > > > a program seems like a reasonable idea and might help spread the >> word >> > > > for producers. I would hope that people know how to self-restrain. >> :) >> > > > >> > > > ~David Klann >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > On 03/20/2017 12:22 PM, Maria Gilardin via grc wrote: >> > > > > Hi Jama, I remember that the prohibition was for producers like >> > > > > Frieda and I who put out weekly shows not to flood the list with >> > > > > each release - but I also would like to see who else is >> distributing >> > > > > and it was fun to read about Dave. Once a year seems fair and >> > > > > whenever something goes into distribution for the first time, like >> > > > > Sound and Fury. >> > > > > >> > > > > Maria Gilardin/TUC Radio >> > > > > PO Box 44/Calpella, CA, 95418 >> > > > > (707) 463-2654 >> > > > > http://www.tucradio.org >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > grc mailing list >> > > grc at maillist.peak.org >> > > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > grc mailing list >> > grc at maillist.peak.org >> > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc >> > >> -- >> Frieda Werden, Series Producer >> WINGS: Women's International News Gathering Service www.wings.org >> _______________________________________________ >> grc mailing list >> grc at maillist.peak.org >> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc >> > > From david at ibisradio.org Wed Mar 22 15:50:41 2017 From: david at ibisradio.org (David Goodman) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2017 18:50:41 -0400 Subject: [grc] Will you indulge me this one appeal? New program! In-Reply-To: References: <58D2B6FF.26011.19D5A4BE@john.soundsofdissent.org> Message-ID: So what is the process for making a decision on this? Obviously we don't have consensus. Super majority perhaps? (75% have to say yay) cheers, dg On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 6:25 PM, Andrew Stelzer via grc < grc at maillist.peak.org> wrote: > you dont have be a pacifica affliiate to be on that list, and many programs > include non-audioport url links for downloading their shows in their posts. > > On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 3:14 PM, Kenny Lavender wrote: > > > I am not a Pacifica affiliate > > > > On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 5:06 PM, Frieda Werden via grc < > > grc at maillist.peak.org> wrote: > > > >> Many grc members are not Pacifica affiliates, I think. > >> > >> On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 11:04 AM Andrew Stelzer via grc < > >> grc at maillist.peak.org> wrote: > >> > >> > I agree with John 102%,(extra 2 because I advocate zero program > >> > announcements here, not 1 per year) > >> > > >> > Self-restraint is a pipe dream, especially amongst 'promoters'--by > >> > definition. > >> > > >> > The pacificaannounce list exists for exactly this purpose--for program > >> > announcements. Allowing program announcements on the GRC list will > drive > >> > people(and entire stations) from this list that need it as a crucial > >> > resource...and will also dilute the strength of Pacifica-announce as a > >> > clear source of what its intended for--peopel will get confused as to > >> which > >> > list to post to, etc. We all end up weaker. > >> > > >> > go here!!!: > >> > https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/pacificaannounce/info > >> > > >> > > >> > On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 10:40 AM, John Grebe via grc < > >> > grc at maillist.peak.org> > >> > wrote: > >> > > >> > > People do not know how to self-restrain, for even once per year > >> postings. > >> > > Some producers are > >> > > super-promoters, and it doesn't equate to quality of programming. > >> > > > >> > > Only after subscribing for 6 months should a list member be allowed > to > >> > > send a > >> > > promotion/announcement of their program. > >> > > > >> > > This is not a producers' or program directors' email list > >> specifically. > >> > > It's a general radio issues list for > >> > > grassroots radio stations. (I'm a producer-reporter host and radio > >> > > technician.) I would subscribe to a > >> > > separate list for producers and/or program directors among the GRC > >> > members. > >> > > > >> > > In case three producers of one show are all list members: ONLY one > >> > > program announcement or > >> > > description PER SHOW (not per producer) may be sent per year, signed > >> with > >> > > the full name of the > >> > > poster and all producers involved. Violating that year-long term > >> results > >> > > in expulsion from the GRC > >> > > list. I'd want any annual limit enforced harshly. No slippery > pushing > >> at > >> > > the limits by sliding program > >> > > content into emails ostensibly on other subjects. Frankly, a web > link > >> in > >> > > email is enough promotion so > >> > > interested "targets" can find weekly descriptions on a web page. > >> > > > >> > > If the wrong change is made to list rules, super-promoters and > >> replies to > >> > > them will burden this > >> > > general purpose list. > >> > > > >> > > There are separate spaces for that elsewhere. If necessary, start a > >> > > separate email list--perhaps > >> > > GRC-Programs--to accommodate us producers' show descriptions or > >> > > announcements. > >> > > > >> > > Traffic on the GRC list surges and recedes at times. That's not a > >> reason > >> > > to flood it with program > >> > > announcements, where the biggest self-promoters take up the most > >> space. > >> > > This list is a wonderful > >> > > resource (and a great reference archive) to learn about obscure > >> important > >> > > radio knowledge from > >> > > decades-experienced GRC'ers--information that's not found elsewhere. > >> > > Program content > >> > > announcements, however, can be found on producers' own sites and > >> upload > >> > > sites (like Radio4All, > >> > > Pacifica's AudioPort, PRX, Content Depot, etc.). > >> > > > >> > > The worst effect of regular program announcements or descriptions on > >> this > >> > > GRC list would be that > >> > > people like me would stop reading it for all the rest of the > content. > >> I > >> > > watched a local Boston area > >> > > independent radio list get smacked with programs' (an excellent > >> program, > >> > > but that's not the point) > >> > > announcements. It stanched discussion, and diluted the original > >> purpose > >> > of > >> > > the list. > >> > > > >> > > How many list member producers are we? Do we want that number of > show > >> > > announcements per > >> > > week, month or year? > >> > > > >> > > Best regards, > >> > > John > >> > > - > >> > > WZBC-FM Boston-Newton > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > On 20 Mar 2017 at 12:27, David Klann via grc wrote: > >> > > > >> > > To: grc at maillist.peak.org > >> > > Organization: WDRT, 91.9fm, Viroqua, WI, US > >> > > Date sent: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 12:27:26 -0500 > >> > > Subject: Re: [grc] Will you indulge me this one appeal? New > >> > program! > >> > > From: David Klann via grc > >> > > Send reply to: dklann at wdrt.org > >> > > > >> > > > As the current "list cop" I support this idea! Occasionally > >> promoting > >> > > > a program seems like a reasonable idea and might help spread the > >> word > >> > > > for producers. I would hope that people know how to self-restrain. > >> :) > >> > > > > >> > > > ~David Klann > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > On 03/20/2017 12:22 PM, Maria Gilardin via grc wrote: > >> > > > > Hi Jama, I remember that the prohibition was for producers like > >> > > > > Frieda and I who put out weekly shows not to flood the list with > >> > > > > each release - but I also would like to see who else is > >> distributing > >> > > > > and it was fun to read about Dave. Once a year seems fair and > >> > > > > whenever something goes into distribution for the first time, > like > >> > > > > Sound and Fury. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Maria Gilardin/TUC Radio > >> > > > > PO Box 44/Calpella, CA, 95418 > >> > > > > (707) 463-2654 > >> > > > > http://www.tucradio.org > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > _______________________________________________ > >> > > grc mailing list > >> > > grc at maillist.peak.org > >> > > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > >> > > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > grc mailing list > >> > grc at maillist.peak.org > >> > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > >> > > >> -- > >> Frieda Werden, Series Producer > >> WINGS: Women's International News Gathering Service www.wings.org > >> _______________________________________________ > >> grc mailing list > >> grc at maillist.peak.org > >> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > -- I.B.I.S. Radio Jamaica Plain, Boston, MA From wings at wings.org Wed Mar 22 16:21:52 2017 From: wings at wings.org (Frieda Werden) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2017 23:21:52 +0000 Subject: [grc] Will you indulge me this one appeal? New program! In-Reply-To: References: <58D2B6FF.26011.19D5A4BE@john.soundsofdissent.org> Message-ID: How about we have a new round of self- introductions by list members, and each say what we do in community radio? On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 3:51 PM David Goodman via grc wrote: > So what is the process for making a decision on this? Obviously we don't > have consensus. Super majority perhaps? (75% have to say yay) > > cheers, > dg > > > On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 6:25 PM, Andrew Stelzer via grc < > grc at maillist.peak.org> wrote: > > > you dont have be a pacifica affliiate to be on that list, and many > programs > > include non-audioport url links for downloading their shows in their > posts. > > > > On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 3:14 PM, Kenny Lavender wrote: > > > > > I am not a Pacifica affiliate > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 5:06 PM, Frieda Werden via grc < > > > grc at maillist.peak.org> wrote: > > > > > >> Many grc members are not Pacifica affiliates, I think. > > >> > > >> On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 11:04 AM Andrew Stelzer via grc < > > >> grc at maillist.peak.org> wrote: > > >> > > >> > I agree with John 102%,(extra 2 because I advocate zero program > > >> > announcements here, not 1 per year) > > >> > > > >> > Self-restraint is a pipe dream, especially amongst 'promoters'--by > > >> > definition. > > >> > > > >> > The pacificaannounce list exists for exactly this purpose--for > program > > >> > announcements. Allowing program announcements on the GRC list will > > drive > > >> > people(and entire stations) from this list that need it as a crucial > > >> > resource...and will also dilute the strength of Pacifica-announce > as a > > >> > clear source of what its intended for--peopel will get confused as > to > > >> which > > >> > list to post to, etc. We all end up weaker. > > >> > > > >> > go here!!!: > > >> > https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/pacificaannounce/info > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 10:40 AM, John Grebe via grc < > > >> > grc at maillist.peak.org> > > >> > wrote: > > >> > > > >> > > People do not know how to self-restrain, for even once per year > > >> postings. > > >> > > Some producers are > > >> > > super-promoters, and it doesn't equate to quality of programming. > > >> > > > > >> > > Only after subscribing for 6 months should a list member be > allowed > > to > > >> > > send a > > >> > > promotion/announcement of their program. > > >> > > > > >> > > This is not a producers' or program directors' email list > > >> specifically. > > >> > > It's a general radio issues list for > > >> > > grassroots radio stations. (I'm a producer-reporter host and radio > > >> > > technician.) I would subscribe to a > > >> > > separate list for producers and/or program directors among the GRC > > >> > members. > > >> > > > > >> > > In case three producers of one show are all list members: ONLY > one > > >> > > program announcement or > > >> > > description PER SHOW (not per producer) may be sent per year, > signed > > >> with > > >> > > the full name of the > > >> > > poster and all producers involved. Violating that year-long term > > >> results > > >> > > in expulsion from the GRC > > >> > > list. I'd want any annual limit enforced harshly. No slippery > > pushing > > >> at > > >> > > the limits by sliding program > > >> > > content into emails ostensibly on other subjects. Frankly, a web > > link > > >> in > > >> > > email is enough promotion so > > >> > > interested "targets" can find weekly descriptions on a web page. > > >> > > > > >> > > If the wrong change is made to list rules, super-promoters and > > >> replies to > > >> > > them will burden this > > >> > > general purpose list. > > >> > > > > >> > > There are separate spaces for that elsewhere. If necessary, start > a > > >> > > separate email list--perhaps > > >> > > GRC-Programs--to accommodate us producers' show descriptions or > > >> > > announcements. > > >> > > > > >> > > Traffic on the GRC list surges and recedes at times. That's not a > > >> reason > > >> > > to flood it with program > > >> > > announcements, where the biggest self-promoters take up the most > > >> space. > > >> > > This list is a wonderful > > >> > > resource (and a great reference archive) to learn about obscure > > >> important > > >> > > radio knowledge from > > >> > > decades-experienced GRC'ers--information that's not found > elsewhere. > > >> > > Program content > > >> > > announcements, however, can be found on producers' own sites and > > >> upload > > >> > > sites (like Radio4All, > > >> > > Pacifica's AudioPort, PRX, Content Depot, etc.). > > >> > > > > >> > > The worst effect of regular program announcements or descriptions > on > > >> this > > >> > > GRC list would be that > > >> > > people like me would stop reading it for all the rest of the > > content. > > >> I > > >> > > watched a local Boston area > > >> > > independent radio list get smacked with programs' (an excellent > > >> program, > > >> > > but that's not the point) > > >> > > announcements. It stanched discussion, and diluted the original > > >> purpose > > >> > of > > >> > > the list. > > >> > > > > >> > > How many list member producers are we? Do we want that number of > > show > > >> > > announcements per > > >> > > week, month or year? > > >> > > > > >> > > Best regards, > > >> > > John > > >> > > - > > >> > > WZBC-FM Boston-Newton > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > On 20 Mar 2017 at 12:27, David Klann via grc wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > > To: grc at maillist.peak.org > > >> > > Organization: WDRT, 91.9fm, Viroqua, WI, US > > >> > > Date sent: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 12:27:26 -0500 > > >> > > Subject: Re: [grc] Will you indulge me this one appeal? New > > >> > program! > > >> > > From: David Klann via grc > > >> > > Send reply to: dklann at wdrt.org > > >> > > > > >> > > > As the current "list cop" I support this idea! Occasionally > > >> promoting > > >> > > > a program seems like a reasonable idea and might help spread the > > >> word > > >> > > > for producers. I would hope that people know how to > self-restrain. > > >> :) > > >> > > > > > >> > > > ~David Klann > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > On 03/20/2017 12:22 PM, Maria Gilardin via grc wrote: > > >> > > > > Hi Jama, I remember that the prohibition was for producers > like > > >> > > > > Frieda and I who put out weekly shows not to flood the list > with > > >> > > > > each release - but I also would like to see who else is > > >> distributing > > >> > > > > and it was fun to read about Dave. Once a year seems fair and > > >> > > > > whenever something goes into distribution for the first time, > > like > > >> > > > > Sound and Fury. > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > Maria Gilardin/TUC Radio > > >> > > > > PO Box 44/Calpella, CA, 95418 > > >> > > > > (707) 463-2654 > > >> > > > > http://www.tucradio.org > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > >> > > grc mailing list > > >> > > grc at maillist.peak.org > > >> > > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > > >> > > > > >> > _______________________________________________ > > >> > grc mailing list > > >> > grc at maillist.peak.org > > >> > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > > >> > > > >> -- > > >> Frieda Werden, Series Producer > > >> WINGS: Women's International News Gathering Service www.wings.org > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> grc mailing list > > >> grc at maillist.peak.org > > >> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > > >> > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > grc mailing list > > grc at maillist.peak.org > > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > > > > > > -- > I.B.I.S. Radio > Jamaica Plain, Boston, MA > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > -- Frieda Werden, Series Producer WINGS: Women's International News Gathering Service www.wings.org From jeff at davismedia.org Wed Mar 22 16:58:36 2017 From: jeff at davismedia.org (Jeff Shaw) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2017 16:58:36 -0700 Subject: [grc] Will you indulge me this one appeal? New program! In-Reply-To: References: <58D2B6FF.26011.19D5A4BE@john.soundsofdissent.org> Message-ID: <57b605e6-32d6-829b-0306-f30e45754c1b@davismedia.org> On 3/22/17 4:21 PM, Frieda Werden via grc wrote: > How about we have a new round of self- introductions by list members, and > each say what we do in community radio? Hello, my name is Jeff and I'm addicted to community radio. I agree with Andrew, this list is great when the focus avoids Pacifica infighting and program promotion, and I always prefer self-policing. > > On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 3:51 PM David Goodman via grc > wrote: > >> So what is the process for making a decision on this? Obviously we don't >> have consensus. Super majority perhaps? (75% have to say yay) >> >> cheers, >> dg >> >> >> On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 6:25 PM, Andrew Stelzer via grc < >> grc at maillist.peak.org> wrote: >> >>> you dont have be a pacifica affliiate to be on that list, and many >> programs >>> include non-audioport url links for downloading their shows in their >> posts. >>> On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 3:14 PM, Kenny Lavender wrote: >>> >>>> I am not a Pacifica affiliate >>>> >>>> On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 5:06 PM, Frieda Werden via grc < >>>> grc at maillist.peak.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Many grc members are not Pacifica affiliates, I think. >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 11:04 AM Andrew Stelzer via grc < >>>>> grc at maillist.peak.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I agree with John 102%,(extra 2 because I advocate zero program >>>>>> announcements here, not 1 per year) >>>>>> >>>>>> Self-restraint is a pipe dream, especially amongst 'promoters'--by >>>>>> definition. >>>>>> >>>>>> The pacificaannounce list exists for exactly this purpose--for >> program >>>>>> announcements. Allowing program announcements on the GRC list will >>> drive >>>>>> people(and entire stations) from this list that need it as a crucial >>>>>> resource...and will also dilute the strength of Pacifica-announce >> as a >>>>>> clear source of what its intended for--peopel will get confused as >> to >>>>> which >>>>>> list to post to, etc. We all end up weaker. >>>>>> >>>>>> go here!!!: >>>>>> https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/pacificaannounce/info >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 10:40 AM, John Grebe via grc < >>>>>> grc at maillist.peak.org> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> People do not know how to self-restrain, for even once per year >>>>> postings. >>>>>>> Some producers are >>>>>>> super-promoters, and it doesn't equate to quality of programming. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Only after subscribing for 6 months should a list member be >> allowed >>> to >>>>>>> send a >>>>>>> promotion/announcement of their program. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is not a producers' or program directors' email list >>>>> specifically. >>>>>>> It's a general radio issues list for >>>>>>> grassroots radio stations. (I'm a producer-reporter host and radio >>>>>>> technician.) I would subscribe to a >>>>>>> separate list for producers and/or program directors among the GRC >>>>>> members. >>>>>>> In case three producers of one show are all list members: ONLY >> one >>>>>>> program announcement or >>>>>>> description PER SHOW (not per producer) may be sent per year, >> signed >>>>> with >>>>>>> the full name of the >>>>>>> poster and all producers involved. Violating that year-long term >>>>> results >>>>>>> in expulsion from the GRC >>>>>>> list. I'd want any annual limit enforced harshly. No slippery >>> pushing >>>>> at >>>>>>> the limits by sliding program >>>>>>> content into emails ostensibly on other subjects. Frankly, a web >>> link >>>>> in >>>>>>> email is enough promotion so >>>>>>> interested "targets" can find weekly descriptions on a web page. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If the wrong change is made to list rules, super-promoters and >>>>> replies to >>>>>>> them will burden this >>>>>>> general purpose list. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There are separate spaces for that elsewhere. If necessary, start >> a >>>>>>> separate email list--perhaps >>>>>>> GRC-Programs--to accommodate us producers' show descriptions or >>>>>>> announcements. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Traffic on the GRC list surges and recedes at times. That's not a >>>>> reason >>>>>>> to flood it with program >>>>>>> announcements, where the biggest self-promoters take up the most >>>>> space. >>>>>>> This list is a wonderful >>>>>>> resource (and a great reference archive) to learn about obscure >>>>> important >>>>>>> radio knowledge from >>>>>>> decades-experienced GRC'ers--information that's not found >> elsewhere. >>>>>>> Program content >>>>>>> announcements, however, can be found on producers' own sites and >>>>> upload >>>>>>> sites (like Radio4All, >>>>>>> Pacifica's AudioPort, PRX, Content Depot, etc.). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The worst effect of regular program announcements or descriptions >> on >>>>> this >>>>>>> GRC list would be that >>>>>>> people like me would stop reading it for all the rest of the >>> content. >>>>> I >>>>>>> watched a local Boston area >>>>>>> independent radio list get smacked with programs' (an excellent >>>>> program, >>>>>>> but that's not the point) >>>>>>> announcements. It stanched discussion, and diluted the original >>>>> purpose >>>>>> of >>>>>>> the list. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> How many list member producers are we? Do we want that number of >>> show >>>>>>> announcements per >>>>>>> week, month or year? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>> John >>>>>>> - >>>>>>> WZBC-FM Boston-Newton >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 20 Mar 2017 at 12:27, David Klann via grc wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To: grc at maillist.peak.org >>>>>>> Organization: WDRT, 91.9fm, Viroqua, WI, US >>>>>>> Date sent: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 12:27:26 -0500 >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [grc] Will you indulge me this one appeal? New >>>>>> program! >>>>>>> From: David Klann via grc >>>>>>> Send reply to: dklann at wdrt.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As the current "list cop" I support this idea! Occasionally >>>>> promoting >>>>>>>> a program seems like a reasonable idea and might help spread the >>>>> word >>>>>>>> for producers. I would hope that people know how to >> self-restrain. >>>>> :) >>>>>>>> ~David Klann >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 03/20/2017 12:22 PM, Maria Gilardin via grc wrote: >>>>>>>>> Hi Jama, I remember that the prohibition was for producers >> like >>>>>>>>> Frieda and I who put out weekly shows not to flood the list >> with >>>>>>>>> each release - but I also would like to see who else is >>>>> distributing >>>>>>>>> and it was fun to read about Dave. Once a year seems fair and >>>>>>>>> whenever something goes into distribution for the first time, >>> like >>>>>>>>> Sound and Fury. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Maria Gilardin/TUC Radio >>>>>>>>> PO Box 44/Calpella, CA, 95418 >>>>>>>>> (707) 463-2654 >>>>>>>>> http://www.tucradio.org >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> grc mailing list >>>>>>> grc at maillist.peak.org >>>>>>> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> grc mailing list >>>>>> grc at maillist.peak.org >>>>>> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Frieda Werden, Series Producer >>>>> WINGS: Women's International News Gathering Service www.wings.org >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> grc mailing list >>>>> grc at maillist.peak.org >>>>> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc >>>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> grc mailing list >>> grc at maillist.peak.org >>> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc >>> >> >> >> -- >> I.B.I.S. Radio >> Jamaica Plain, Boston, MA >> _______________________________________________ >> grc mailing list >> grc at maillist.peak.org >> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc >> From loonfoot at gmail.com Wed Mar 22 19:29:49 2017 From: loonfoot at gmail.com (Robert Park) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2017 21:29:49 -0500 Subject: [grc] Will you indulge me this one appeal? New program! In-Reply-To: <57b605e6-32d6-829b-0306-f30e45754c1b@davismedia.org> References: <58D2B6FF.26011.19D5A4BE@john.soundsofdissent.org> <57b605e6-32d6-829b-0306-f30e45754c1b@davismedia.org> Message-ID: I'm Program Director for the smallest of 5 community LPFM stations in the Greater Madison WI area. I'm in favor of one or two new programs being introduced per year to this list by individuals involved in producing them. I think the messages should be brief with a link to more info. On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 6:58 PM, Jeff Shaw via grc wrote: > On 3/22/17 4:21 PM, Frieda Werden via grc wrote: > > How about we have a new round of self- introductions by list members, and > > each say what we do in community radio? > Hello, my name is Jeff and I'm addicted to community radio. > > I agree with Andrew, this list is great when the focus avoids Pacifica > infighting and program promotion, and I always prefer self-policing. > > > > > On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 3:51 PM David Goodman via grc < > grc at maillist.peak.org> > > wrote: > > > >> So what is the process for making a decision on this? Obviously we don't > >> have consensus. Super majority perhaps? (75% have to say yay) > >> > >> cheers, > >> dg > >> > >> > >> On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 6:25 PM, Andrew Stelzer via grc < > >> grc at maillist.peak.org> wrote: > >> > >>> you dont have be a pacifica affliiate to be on that list, and many > >> programs > >>> include non-audioport url links for downloading their shows in their > >> posts. > >>> On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 3:14 PM, Kenny Lavender > wrote: > >>> > >>>> I am not a Pacifica affiliate > >>>> > >>>> On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 5:06 PM, Frieda Werden via grc < > >>>> grc at maillist.peak.org> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Many grc members are not Pacifica affiliates, I think. > >>>>> > >>>>> On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 11:04 AM Andrew Stelzer via grc < > >>>>> grc at maillist.peak.org> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> I agree with John 102%,(extra 2 because I advocate zero program > >>>>>> announcements here, not 1 per year) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Self-restraint is a pipe dream, especially amongst 'promoters'--by > >>>>>> definition. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> The pacificaannounce list exists for exactly this purpose--for > >> program > >>>>>> announcements. Allowing program announcements on the GRC list will > >>> drive > >>>>>> people(and entire stations) from this list that need it as a crucial > >>>>>> resource...and will also dilute the strength of Pacifica-announce > >> as a > >>>>>> clear source of what its intended for--peopel will get confused as > >> to > >>>>> which > >>>>>> list to post to, etc. We all end up weaker. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> go here!!!: > >>>>>> https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/pacificaannounce/info > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 10:40 AM, John Grebe via grc < > >>>>>> grc at maillist.peak.org> > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> People do not know how to self-restrain, for even once per year > >>>>> postings. > >>>>>>> Some producers are > >>>>>>> super-promoters, and it doesn't equate to quality of programming. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Only after subscribing for 6 months should a list member be > >> allowed > >>> to > >>>>>>> send a > >>>>>>> promotion/announcement of their program. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> This is not a producers' or program directors' email list > >>>>> specifically. > >>>>>>> It's a general radio issues list for > >>>>>>> grassroots radio stations. (I'm a producer-reporter host and radio > >>>>>>> technician.) I would subscribe to a > >>>>>>> separate list for producers and/or program directors among the GRC > >>>>>> members. > >>>>>>> In case three producers of one show are all list members: ONLY > >> one > >>>>>>> program announcement or > >>>>>>> description PER SHOW (not per producer) may be sent per year, > >> signed > >>>>> with > >>>>>>> the full name of the > >>>>>>> poster and all producers involved. Violating that year-long term > >>>>> results > >>>>>>> in expulsion from the GRC > >>>>>>> list. I'd want any annual limit enforced harshly. No slippery > >>> pushing > >>>>> at > >>>>>>> the limits by sliding program > >>>>>>> content into emails ostensibly on other subjects. Frankly, a web > >>> link > >>>>> in > >>>>>>> email is enough promotion so > >>>>>>> interested "targets" can find weekly descriptions on a web page. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> If the wrong change is made to list rules, super-promoters and > >>>>> replies to > >>>>>>> them will burden this > >>>>>>> general purpose list. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> There are separate spaces for that elsewhere. If necessary, start > >> a > >>>>>>> separate email list--perhaps > >>>>>>> GRC-Programs--to accommodate us producers' show descriptions or > >>>>>>> announcements. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Traffic on the GRC list surges and recedes at times. That's not a > >>>>> reason > >>>>>>> to flood it with program > >>>>>>> announcements, where the biggest self-promoters take up the most > >>>>> space. > >>>>>>> This list is a wonderful > >>>>>>> resource (and a great reference archive) to learn about obscure > >>>>> important > >>>>>>> radio knowledge from > >>>>>>> decades-experienced GRC'ers--information that's not found > >> elsewhere. > >>>>>>> Program content > >>>>>>> announcements, however, can be found on producers' own sites and > >>>>> upload > >>>>>>> sites (like Radio4All, > >>>>>>> Pacifica's AudioPort, PRX, Content Depot, etc.). > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> The worst effect of regular program announcements or descriptions > >> on > >>>>> this > >>>>>>> GRC list would be that > >>>>>>> people like me would stop reading it for all the rest of the > >>> content. > >>>>> I > >>>>>>> watched a local Boston area > >>>>>>> independent radio list get smacked with programs' (an excellent > >>>>> program, > >>>>>>> but that's not the point) > >>>>>>> announcements. It stanched discussion, and diluted the original > >>>>> purpose > >>>>>> of > >>>>>>> the list. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> How many list member producers are we? Do we want that number of > >>> show > >>>>>>> announcements per > >>>>>>> week, month or year? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Best regards, > >>>>>>> John > >>>>>>> - > >>>>>>> WZBC-FM Boston-Newton > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On 20 Mar 2017 at 12:27, David Klann via grc wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> To: grc at maillist.peak.org > >>>>>>> Organization: WDRT, 91.9fm, Viroqua, WI, US > >>>>>>> Date sent: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 12:27:26 -0500 > >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [grc] Will you indulge me this one appeal? New > >>>>>> program! > >>>>>>> From: David Klann via grc > >>>>>>> Send reply to: dklann at wdrt.org > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> As the current "list cop" I support this idea! Occasionally > >>>>> promoting > >>>>>>>> a program seems like a reasonable idea and might help spread the > >>>>> word > >>>>>>>> for producers. I would hope that people know how to > >> self-restrain. > >>>>> :) > >>>>>>>> ~David Klann > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On 03/20/2017 12:22 PM, Maria Gilardin via grc wrote: > >>>>>>>>> Hi Jama, I remember that the prohibition was for producers > >> like > >>>>>>>>> Frieda and I who put out weekly shows not to flood the list > >> with > >>>>>>>>> each release - but I also would like to see who else is > >>>>> distributing > >>>>>>>>> and it was fun to read about Dave. Once a year seems fair and > >>>>>>>>> whenever something goes into distribution for the first time, > >>> like > >>>>>>>>> Sound and Fury. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Maria Gilardin/TUC Radio > >>>>>>>>> PO Box 44/Calpella, CA, 95418 > >>>>>>>>> (707) 463-2654 > >>>>>>>>> http://www.tucradio.org > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>> grc mailing list > >>>>>>> grc at maillist.peak.org > >>>>>>> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> grc mailing list > >>>>>> grc at maillist.peak.org > >>>>>> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > >>>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> Frieda Werden, Series Producer > >>>>> WINGS: Women's International News Gathering Service www.wings.org > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> grc mailing list > >>>>> grc at maillist.peak.org > >>>>> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > >>>>> > >>>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> grc mailing list > >>> grc at maillist.peak.org > >>> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > >>> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> I.B.I.S. Radio > >> Jamaica Plain, Boston, MA > >> _______________________________________________ > >> grc mailing list > >> grc at maillist.peak.org > >> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > From undercurrentsradio at gmail.com Wed Mar 22 20:21:02 2017 From: undercurrentsradio at gmail.com (UnderCurrents Radio) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2017 20:21:02 -0700 Subject: [grc] Fwd: Will you indulge me this one appeal? New program! References: Message-ID: Andrew: Works fine for Pacifica programming. But that?s not the only interesting and available material out there. Gregg Gregg McVicar www.undercurrentsradio.net From anniegarrison at gmail.com Thu Mar 30 16:28:10 2017 From: anniegarrison at gmail.com (Ann Garrison) Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 16:28:10 -0700 Subject: [grc] New post, "The Israel Rwanda Alliance, " to NewsUp on Audioport Message-ID: I just posted a 3:45 minute news story, "The Rwanda Israel Alliance," on the special relationship between Israel and Rwanda which led to Rwanda's President Paul Kagame being the first African head of state to address AIPAC last weekend. Kagame was also the only foreign head of state to address AIPAC this year besides Benjamin Netanyahu himself. I have a 10:10 minute version that explains quite a bit more, and which I might post to another section of Audioport in a day or two. I didn't post it to NewsUp because we agreed that NewsUp posts would be no longer than 8 minutes. I can also e-mail the longer version to anyone interested; it would just take more time than I have to post it to another section of Audioport today. No one has posted to NewsUp in the past week, maybe longer, so I'm sending this note to remind folks that it's there - for reporters to post and for hosts and hewscasters to download. For real, Ann Garrison Independent Journalist, SKYPE: Ann Garrison, Oakland 415-503-7487