[grc] [Stubblefield] Internet threat to STL 900 Mhz band
Tom Voorhees
juice at whidbey.com
Wed Jun 19 10:38:48 PDT 2019
As Mechi mentions below, the 2 meter radio band intended for ham radio
to participate in real emergencies is being threatened in France and as
covered by DN this morning face book starting a new cripto currency.
To avoid future false alarms.
Is there a trustable site that assesses the potential security risks to
radio and internet?
Tom.
On 2019-06-19 07:50, Michelle Bradley via grc wrote:
> The problem is that false alarms spread fake news and unnecessary
> engagements. It is one thing to state that internet interests are
> looking for spectrum to expand into, but to actually insinuate that a
> specific piece of spectrum is being directly threatened, without any
> confirmation is another thing.
>
> It also puts a lot of unnecessary burden on those of us who are
> following and advocating on spectrum issues.
>
> Also, if there is a threat, we need to weigh the credibility of the
> threat and the chances of the threat coming to fruition.
>
> For example, the Amateur Radio community is concerned right now due to
> a proposal by France to seek spectrum for non-safety aviation purposes
> in a meeting of the CEPT (Europe's standards agency) Electronic
> Communications Committee, Project Team A. One of the bands that they
> called out specifically in a document is the 144~146 MHz band, which
> is the 2-meter amateur radio band for possible allocation in all
> regions (worldwide) for new allocations in the aeronautical mobile
> service on a primary basis.
>
> While this is a credible threat at this time, this venue can be seen
> as a low level planning meeting that is intended for developing CEPT
> positions to represent the European Union in an upcoming World Radio
> Conference. Of course, other nations would have to also be on board
> with this. This threat should be on the radar, but we are not losing
> 2 meters tomorrow. The Project Team A meetings are taking place in
> Prague until June 21. We will see how this all works out.
>
> This is an example where there was a specific threat made to
> spectrum. The concerns expressed as a result of the France proposal
> are currently valid and need to be watched until the threat is tabled
> in the ECC or dies in the WRC.
>
>
> *Michelle A. Bradley, CBT*
> /Amateur Radio: KU3N/
> /Founder - REC Networks/ - *https://recnet.com*
> *1-844-REC-LPFM* / +1 202 621-2355
> SBE Certified
> On 6/19/2019 10:25 AM, Spencer Graves via grc wrote:
>> Hi, Tom et al.:
>>
>>
>> Thanks for the clarification.
>>
>>
>> Nearly everyone on this list would probably agree that many
>> actions of this FCC (and even the FCC under previous administrations)
>> needed to be monitored and resisted. If we do not get an occasional
>> false alarm, we could too easily overlook something really important.
>>
>>
>> Best Wishes,
>> Spencer Graves
>>
>>
>> On 2019-06-19 07:10, Tom Voorhees via grc wrote:
>>> Michi is correct. I apology, for the false alarm. I was blinded by
>>> concern for the internet sucking up all possible spectrum and its
>>> 1984 Orwell security implications, to include the gold rush for 5G
>>> and iot, the internet of things. Tom.
>>>
>>> On 2019-06-18 16:48, Michelle Bradley via grc wrote:
>>>> Contact your local SBE Frequency Coordinator:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.sbe.org/sections/freq_local.php
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> =m
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Michelle A. Bradley, CBT*
>>>> /Amateur Radio: KU3N/
>>>> /Founder - REC Networks/ - *https://recnet.com*
>>>> *1-844-REC-LPFM* / +1 202 621-2355
>>>> SBE Certified
>>>> On 6/18/2019 7:43 PM, Spencer Graves via grc wrote:
>>>>> What is this, how might it impact KKFI.org (90.1 FM, Kansas
>>>>> City), and how might I go about getting more information on it?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In particular, KKFI has a Studio to Transmitter Link (STL)
>>>>> that includes microwave antennae on the roof of the building
>>>>> holding our studio and another one close to the top of our tower
>>>>> almost 6 miles away. Am I correct that we have some flexibility
>>>>> regarding which specific frequency (or frequencies) we use? Are
>>>>> all those options in the 900 MHz band? And how might I find out
>>>>> which specific frequency we are using at a particular time?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Spencer Graves
>>>>> Secretary, KKFI.org
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2019-06-18 16:21, Michelle Bradley via grc wrote:
>>>>>> There are still 73 records in the spectrum 942-944 that are
>>>>>> operating in accordance with §74.502(a) which permits BAS stations
>>>>>> licensed as of 11/21/84 to continue operating on a co-equal
>>>>>> primary basis to other services operating in the band. Looks
>>>>>> like that 942-944 is still available for new stations in Puerto
>>>>>> Rico. Other than that, there are no other Part 74 records from
>>>>>> 900~999 MHz except for the designated 944-952 band.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Michelle A. Bradley, CBT*
>>>>>> /Amateur Radio: KU3N/
>>>>>> /Founder - REC Networks/ - *https://recnet.com*
>>>>>> *1-844-REC-LPFM* / +1 202 621-2355
>>>>>> SBE Certified
>>>>>> On 6/18/2019 4:30 PM, Tom Voorhees wrote:
>>>>>>> Thanks for pointing out the 944-952 relevance Michi. Although I
>>>>>>> am aware when 944-952 is over crowded, some may have been
>>>>>>> licensed above or below 944-952? Can your database provide the
>>>>>>> answer?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2019-06-18 13:01, Michelle Bradley via grc wrote:
>>>>>>>> Tom..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am looking through these documents. Can you point to where a
>>>>>>>> specific threat was made to the reallocation of the BAS spectrum
>>>>>>>> between 944-952 MHz specifically? Much of what I see are
>>>>>>>> centered
>>>>>>>> around the 896-901/935-940 private land mobile (part 90)
>>>>>>>> spectrum
>>>>>>>> (which is commonly called in the industry "The 900 MHz Band").
>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>> FCC does have a proceeding to revamp this band.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If there is a direct threat to 944-952, then I can look further
>>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>>> it and we can engage if appropriate. Otherwise, we should not
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> creating any real noise and creating new paranoia and rumors if
>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>> proceeding does not affect broadcast's interests in the 944-952
>>>>>>>> BAS
>>>>>>>> STL spectrum.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Michelle A. Bradley, CBT*
>>>>>>>> /Amateur Radio: KU3N/
>>>>>>>> /Founder - REC Networks/ - *https://recnet.com*
>>>>>>>> *1-844-REC-LPFM* / +1 202 621-2355
>>>>>>>> SBE Certified
>>>>>>>> On 6/18/2019 3:27 PM, Tom Voorhees wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Per the below links, 900 Mhz FCC licensed radio STL studio to
>>>>>>>>> transmitter links appear to be on the chopping block to be
>>>>>>>>> sucked up by the spectrum hungry internet industry.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> STLs could be forced into the much less secure internet.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The proposal claims national power grids would be more secure
>>>>>>>>> within a dedicated 900 Mhz private industry internet.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This is more phony crap to justify converting all radio
>>>>>>>>> spectrum for exclusive use by the internet, as no IP internet
>>>>>>>>> protocol technology is anyway near completely secure.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.rcrwireless.com/20190618/carriers/pdvwireless-rebrands-amid-continued-focus-on-private-lte-for-utilities
>>>>>>>>> https://www.rcrwireless.com/20190313/policy/in-potential-boost-private-lte-fcc-proposes-reconfiguring-900-mhz
>>>>>>>>> Tom.
>>>>>>>>>
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