[grc] Grc statement on covid?

Philip Tymon philiptymon at gmail.com
Tue Apr 20 11:07:52 PDT 2021 

 "How does he get that much air time on WBAI?"

In my experience, Gary's show was one of those that brought in the most
money during pledge drives. There were one or two other shows which, in my
opinion were quite wacky, which also brought in huge amounts of money
during pledges. These few shows actually accounted for a very large
percentage of the total amount raised. It's pretty hard to say "no" to a
show that is, essentially, keeping you on the air.

On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 10:44 AM Spencer Graves via grc <
grc at maillist.peak.org> wrote:

>           I found "https://thegarynullshow.podbean.com/" and
> "https://www.wbai.org/program.php?program=29".  The former includes a
> podcast and a partial transcript for his April 19 show on "It is Time to
> Dismantle the World Health Organization".
>
>
>           The latter says he broadcasts Monday - Friday, noon to 1 PM.
>
>
>           How does he get that much air time on WBAI?
>
>
>           Does WBAI subscribe to something like the Nielsen Ratings?  If
> yes,
> does his audience actually justify giving him that much time?  If yes,
> then WBAI and Pacifica surely should be able to afford saddling Null
> with a serious editor, who would demand that he provide credible
> citations for his implication that hydroxychloroquine is safe and
> effective while also providing comparable time -- IN THAT SLOT -- for
> people who say acknowledge that the WHO is less than perfect but seems
> far better than the alternatives.
>
>
>           I'm a volunteer with KKFI in Kansas City.  KKFI is officially
> owned
> by its "Active Volunteers".  It broadcasts 24/7 at 100,000 watts and has
> only one show that gets one hour M-F:  Democracy Now.  85% of KKFI's
> broadcast hours are locally produced by volunteers.  We have a
> "Programming Committee" of volunteers who decide what shows get air time
> when.  The other 15% are national and international feeds.  We pay fees
> to Pacifica and the National Federation of Community Broadcasters.  We
> may or may not pay anything beyond that for some of our other national
> and international feeds;  if we do, it isn't much.
>
>
>           I agree that we need to be careful about censorship, because it
> can
> be used to block honest information as well as misinformation. On the
> other hand, I support a fairness doctrine, stronger and more effective
> than the one that was enforced on broadcasting between 1949 and 1987.
> Henry Ford was sued by Jews and forced to recant his antisemitic
> "International Jew" and discontinue publication of the companion
> newspaper, "The Dearborn Independent"
> (
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dearborn_Independent#Reaction_to_the_Dearborn_Independent).
>
>
>
>
>           However, the prominent antisemite Father Coughlin was allows
> access
> to the air waves until 1942, several months after the US entered World
> War II and not quite 4 years after Germany invaded Czechoslovakia.  I
> think if Father Coughlin had been saddled with more honest editorial
> review in the mid-1930s, the US likely would have accepted more Jewish
> refugees, and it would have been harder for the Nazis to justify
> building the death camps.
>
>
>           Spencer Graves
>
>
> On 4/20/21 12:30 PM, evan davis via grc wrote:
> > The letter Null was referring to is explained here;
> > https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/89204
> >
> > Note that the sponsor of the issuing organization ( which, BTW, does NOT
> > have "tens of thousands" of co-signers) is funded by the Kochs. This is,
> in
> > part, what I am talking about. We don't want to inadvertently parrot this
> > kind of right-wing propaganda and attract the kinds of people who are
> > addicted to it.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 1:20 PM David Goodman <ibisradio at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> "Tens of thousands of doctors signed on..."?  How many of them belong to
> >> to this discredited European group:
> >>
> >>
> https://www.factcheck.org/2020/10/doctors-in-video-falsely-equate-covid-19-with-a-normal-flu-virus/
> >>
> >> paz, dg
> >>
> >> On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 1:13 PM riva enteen via grc <
> grc at maillist.peak.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Worth looking at:
> >>>
> >>>
> https://childrenshealthdefense.salsalabs.org/4-19-21defender?wvpId=a4c7cc45-33af-438e-b4e7-0270a1273e0e
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 10:09 AM Doug McVay <dougmcvay at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Could you send a link for those articles? I'd be interested in reading
> >>>> them.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 10:07 AM Ann Garrison via grc <
> >>>> grc at maillist.peak.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I read a news report that someone with gunshot wounds died of COVID,
> >>> and
> >>>>> another about someone who had Stage 4 cancer and then had a heart
> >>> attack.
> >>>>> But again, I'm speaking as someone who's been vaccinated.  I don't
> >>> doubt
> >>>>> that COVID is real but I think the numbers may be inflated for
> whatever
> >>>>> reason. And I think that the censorship is dangerous.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 9:56 AM riva enteen <rivaenteen at gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I agree with Ann.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> And this is true:   "tens of thousands of doctors" have signed on to
> >>> a
> >>>>>> letter calling Covid a hoax, and that preventative treatments
> >>> (including
> >>>>>> Hydroxichloroquin) are being denied or discouraged
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Frankly, there is significant data that Hydroxichloroquin works,
> >>> which
> >>>>> is
> >>>>>> NOT bleach.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> They count covid deaths as covid only, not related to comorbidities,
> >>> but
> >>>>>> deaths from vaccines are deaths from comorbidities, not the vax.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> But I'm a crackpot.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>
> https://blackagendareport.com/reality-police-erase-lesbians-covid-skeptics-and-democracy
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 9:50 AM Ann Garrison via grc <
> >>>>>> grc at maillist.peak.org> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I think there's a danger to censoring this.  As Glen Greenwald
> said,
> >>>>>>> "There's of course a danger to spreading misinformation, but the
> >>>>> danger of
> >>>>>>> censoring it is worse." Also, I know Pacifica listeners who believe
> >>>>> what
> >>>>>>> Gary Null said and they're not crackpots on other subjects, so I
> >>>>> wouldn't
> >>>>>>> just assume that they are on this or at least some of it. And I'm
> >>>>> speaking
> >>>>>>> as someone who's been vaccinated.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 9:06 AM Rajesh Barnabas via grc <
> >>>>>>> grc at maillist.peak.org> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Yes just like black men are dying at the hands of police from
> >>>>>>>> co-morbidities...
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 11:32 AM generalrokoyura via grc <
> >>>>>>>> grc at maillist.peak.org> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I just caught the first few minutes of Gary Null's show on WBAI
> >>>>> while
> >>>>>>>>> driving away from the signal area. It made me so mad and
> >>> disgusted
> >>>>>>> that I
> >>>>>>>>> wanted to crash the car in to a pole just to destroy the
> >>> radio.In
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>>>> first
> >>>>>>>>> 5 minutes of the show, Null recited the usual litany of
> >>>>>>> pandemic-denial
> >>>>>>>>> conspiracy garbage talking.points, claiming that Covid deaths
> >>> are
> >>>>>>>>> "negligible", and that people are dying, instead, from
> >>>>>>> "co-morbidities",
> >>>>>>>>> that the World Health Organization is doing the bidding of Bill
> >>>>> Gates,
> >>>>>>>> "the
> >>>>>>>>> most powerful man in the world", that "tens of thousands of
> >>>>> doctors"
> >>>>>>> have
> >>>>>>>>> signed on to a letter calling Covid a hoax, and that
> >>> preventative
> >>>>>>>>> treatments (including Hydroxichloroquin) are being denied or
> >>>>>>>> discouraged.He
> >>>>>>>>> stopped short of recommending bleach injections, but he sounded
> >>>>> like
> >>>>>>> an
> >>>>>>>>> artificially calm and articulate Alex Jones.Would there,
> >>> perhaps,
> >>>>> be
> >>>>>>>> value
> >>>>>>>>> in the GRC issuing a collective editorial statement indicating
> >>>>> that we
> >>>>>>>> take
> >>>>>>>>> our collective public health responsibilitie
> >>>>>>>>>   s seriously and expressing a commitment to broadcasting
> >>> accurate,
> >>>>>>>>> verified information?My concern is that community radio
> >>> stations be
> >>>>>>> seen
> >>>>>>>> as
> >>>>>>>>> beacons of sanity, not as magnets for fact-and-analysis-averse
> >>>>>>>>> slepticism-junkies who might, on another day, be theatening
> >>> public
> >>>>>>>>> health.officials, or storming their places of employment.Sent
> >>> from
> >>>>> my
> >>>>>>>>> Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
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> >>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> Sincerely,
> >>>>>>> @AnnGarrison <https://twitter.com/AnnGarrison?lang=en>
> >>>>>>> Independent Journalist,
> >>>>>>> SKYPE: Ann Garrison, Oakland
> >>>>>>> 415-503-7487
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> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Sincerely,
> >>>>> @AnnGarrison <https://twitter.com/AnnGarrison?lang=en>
> >>>>> Independent Journalist,
> >>>>> SKYPE: Ann Garrison, Oakland
> >>>>> 415-503-7487
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> >>>>
> >>>>
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