From charlie.knower at gmail.com Sun May 2 09:16:05 2021 From: charlie.knower at gmail.com (Charlie Knower) Date: Sun, 2 May 2021 11:16:05 -0500 Subject: [grc] (no subject) Message-ID: HEARTLAND STORIES:AUDREY TRAN LAM, REDUCING URBAN PESTICIDES Series: Title: Sub-title: Heartland Stories Audrey Tran Lam, Reducing Urban Pesticides Producer: Program type: Broadcast Restrictions: Charlie Knower Weekly Program For non-profit use only. Summary: Featured speakers/guests: This week Theresa speaks to Audrey Tran Lam. Overseeing a state-wide initiative focusing on reducing urban pesticide application for water, wildlife, and child health, Tran Lam is Environmental Health Program Director for the Center for Energy & Environmental Education in Iowa. Audrey Tran Lam Notes: Credits: Heartland Radio: Cultivating Change. Brought to you by the people that produced Rootstock Radio, Heartland Stories is a weekly 29-minute radio show that is also available as a podcast, sponsored initially by the Heartland Study, a non profit research project dedicated to protecting the health of pregnant women and their babies. Each show engages listeners on the issues and challenges in food, farming and global health. While the team is in the Heartland, where much food is produced, our issues and interviews are with change makers, influentials and everyday people from all over the globe. We present solid information about what we all can do together to assure a healthy and just food system for the 21st century. Episodes are available on Audioport. Search for Heartland Stories or follow this link: http://audioport.org/index.php?op=series&series=Heartland+Stories Or on our Podcast page: https://heartlandstories.libsyn.com/ Host, Theresa Marquez Topics Environment | Health | Agriculture | Food and Nutrition Edit Version | Add Files | Delete Version/Files VERSION 1: Total Length (HH:MM:SS) Description Uploaded 00:29:00 05-02-21 11:13 Transcript, Announcer Script Location Recorded Release Date Language View Script Viroqua, WI 05-02-2021 English # Segment Length Label File Info Download Stats 1 00:29:00 heartlandstories05022021 192Kbps mp3 (39.84MB) Stereo [image: Download] 0 Charlie Knower, Producer 608-620-8785 From charlie.knower at gmail.com Sun May 2 09:19:47 2021 From: charlie.knower at gmail.com (Charlie Knower) Date: Sun, 2 May 2021 11:19:47 -0500 Subject: [grc] Heartland Stories This Week Message-ID: HEARTLAND STORIES:AUDREY TRAN LAM, REDUCING URBAN PESTICIDES Series: Title: Sub-title: Heartland Stories Audrey Tran Lam, Reducing Urban Pesticides Producer: Program type: Broadcast Restrictions: Charlie Knower Weekly Program For non-profit use only. Summary: Featured speakers/guests: This week Theresa speaks to Audrey Tran Lam. Overseeing a state-wide initiative focusing on reducing urban pesticide application for water, wildlife, and child health, Tran Lam is Environmental Health Program Director for the Center for Energy & Environmental Education in Iowa. Audrey Tran Lam Notes: Credits: Heartland Radio: Cultivating Change. Brought to you by the people that produced Rootstock Radio, Heartland Stories is a weekly 29-minute radio show that is also available as a podcast, sponsored initially by the Heartland Study, a non profit research project dedicated to protecting the health of pregnant women and their babies. Each show engages listeners on the issues and challenges in food, farming and global health. While the team is in the Heartland, where much food is produced, our issues and interviews are with change makers, influentials and everyday people from all over the globe. We present solid information about what we all can do together to assure a healthy and just food system for the 21st century. Episodes are available on Audioport. Search for Heartland Stories or follow this link: http://audioport.org/index.php?op=series&series=Heartland+Stories Or on our Podcast page: https://heartlandstories.libsyn.com/ Host, Theresa Marquez Topics Environment | Health | Agriculture | Food and Nutrition Edit Version | Add Files | Delete Version/Files VERSION 1: Total Length (HH:MM:SS) Description Uploaded 00:29:00 05-02-21 11:13 Transcript, Announcer Script Location Recorded Release Date Language View Script Viroqua, WI 05-02-2021 English # Segment Length Label File Info Download Stats 1 00:29:00 heartlandstories05022021 192Kbps mp3 (39.84MB) Stereo [image: Download] 0 -- Charlie Knower 608.620.8785 Cell charlie.knower at gmail.com From rivaenteen at gmail.com Sun May 2 09:24:56 2021 From: rivaenteen at gmail.com (riva enteen) Date: Sun, 2 May 2021 09:24:56 -0700 Subject: [grc] Media Alliance referenced Message-ID: https://blackagendareport.com/reality-police-erase-lesbians-covid-skeptics-and-democracy From tracy at media-alliance.org Sun May 2 09:34:00 2021 From: tracy at media-alliance.org (Tracy Rosenberg) Date: Sun, 2 May 2021 09:34:00 -0700 Subject: [grc] Media Alliance referenced In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Displaying that kind of insensitivity to gender pronouns in a public column is gross, Riva. You can insult people all day, but you end up all by yourself. Yuck. -Tracy On Sun, May 2, 2021, 09:25 riva enteen via grc wrote: > > https://blackagendareport.com/reality-police-erase-lesbians-covid-skeptics-and-democracy > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > From rivaenteen at gmail.com Sun May 2 09:41:28 2021 From: rivaenteen at gmail.com (riva enteen) Date: Sun, 2 May 2021 09:41:28 -0700 Subject: [grc] Media Alliance referenced In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yes, I went after 3 things: covid, Russia-gate and pronouns. But I am not alone. As to the transgender issues, I gladly stand with Glenn Greenwald. A principled discussion is always appropriate, and often, these days, necessary. MA thinks Silicon Valley should be the arbiter of truth or not? On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 9:34 AM Tracy Rosenberg wrote: > Displaying that kind of insensitivity to gender pronouns in a public > column is gross, Riva. > > You can insult people all day, but you end up all by yourself. > > Yuck. > > -Tracy > > > > On Sun, May 2, 2021, 09:25 riva enteen via grc > wrote: > >> >> https://blackagendareport.com/reality-police-erase-lesbians-covid-skeptics-and-democracy >> _______________________________________________ >> grc mailing list >> grc at maillist.peak.org >> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc >> > From tracy at media-alliance.org Sun May 2 09:53:03 2021 From: tracy at media-alliance.org (Tracy Rosenberg) Date: Sun, 2 May 2021 09:53:03 -0700 Subject: [grc] Media Alliance referenced In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Extremely ugly and hateful, Riva and an attack on the members of GRC who are gender fluid and there are several. Did you even think about that? You should not make people feel unwelcome. As usual, you ask silly rhetorical questions. Media Alliance believes what we said: that circuit breaker technology should be used on the large social media platforms to temporarily slow down the viral amplification of super spreader posts featuring hate, disinformation and lies until they can be taken a look at by a human being to see if they are violating the terms of service. -Tracy On Sun, May 2, 2021, 09:41 riva enteen via grc wrote: > Yes, I went after 3 things: covid, Russia-gate and pronouns. But I am not > alone. > As to the transgender issues, I gladly stand with Glenn Greenwald. A > principled discussion is always appropriate, and often, these days, > necessary. > MA thinks Silicon Valley should be the arbiter of truth or not? > > On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 9:34 AM Tracy Rosenberg > wrote: > > > Displaying that kind of insensitivity to gender pronouns in a public > > column is gross, Riva. > > > > You can insult people all day, but you end up all by yourself. > > > > Yuck. > > > > -Tracy > > > > > > > > On Sun, May 2, 2021, 09:25 riva enteen via grc > > wrote: > > > >> > >> > https://blackagendareport.com/reality-police-erase-lesbians-covid-skeptics-and-democracy > >> _______________________________________________ > >> grc mailing list > >> grc at maillist.peak.org > >> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > From kenyalewis at gmail.com Sun May 2 09:47:39 2021 From: kenyalewis at gmail.com (kenya lewis) Date: Sun, 2 May 2021 09:47:39 -0700 Subject: [grc] Media Alliance referenced In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0F899AD8-500A-4C49-A00E-0F40EDA6AB20@gmail.com> Riva, What ?stablished? this poorly edited set of personal observations and grudges is broadly relevant to this GRC list (or as part of a/the black agenda)? Is it possible to be considerate of each other and use this listserv to cooperate? Kenya From rivaenteen at gmail.com Sun May 2 09:54:49 2021 From: rivaenteen at gmail.com (riva enteen) Date: Sun, 2 May 2021 09:54:49 -0700 Subject: [grc] Media Alliance referenced In-Reply-To: <0F899AD8-500A-4C49-A00E-0F40EDA6AB20@gmail.com> References: <0F899AD8-500A-4C49-A00E-0F40EDA6AB20@gmail.com> Message-ID: I am glad to be considerate, butI think controversial issues must be addressed in a principled manner. MA seemed to shut down any debate about Silicon Valley determining truth and I think Tracy's response with circuit breaker begs the question. On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 9:47 AM kenya lewis wrote: > Riva, > > What ?stablished? this poorly edited set of personal observations and > grudges is broadly relevant to this GRC list (or as part of a/the black > agenda)? > > Is it possible to be considerate of each other and use this listserv to > cooperate? > > Kenya From tracy at media-alliance.org Sun May 2 10:04:12 2021 From: tracy at media-alliance.org (Tracy Rosenberg) Date: Sun, 2 May 2021 10:04:12 -0700 Subject: [grc] Media Alliance referenced In-Reply-To: References: <0F899AD8-500A-4C49-A00E-0F40EDA6AB20@gmail.com> Message-ID: You were not considerate, Riva. You said that it was too much trouble for you to observe the gender identities that people wish to be recognized by. By definition, that is rude and not considerate. You clearly need to rethink your position on not eradicating others. You also do not understand what circuit breaker technology is. Platforms do not determine truth, but they do define their terms of service, like any other website, list serv, company, radio station or organization. -Tracy On Sun, May 2, 2021, 09:55 riva enteen via grc wrote: > I am glad to be considerate, butI think controversial issues must be > addressed in a principled manner. MA seemed to shut down any debate about > Silicon Valley determining truth and I think Tracy's response with circuit > breaker begs the question. > > On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 9:47 AM kenya lewis wrote: > > > Riva, > > > > What ?stablished? this poorly edited set of personal observations and > > grudges is broadly relevant to this GRC list (or as part of a/the black > > agenda)? > > > > Is it possible to be considerate of each other and use this listserv to > > cooperate? > > > > Kenya > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > From kenyalewis at gmail.com Sun May 2 10:05:54 2021 From: kenyalewis at gmail.com (kenya lewis) Date: Sun, 2 May 2021 10:05:54 -0700 Subject: [grc] Media Alliance referenced In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Riva, The GRC listserv seems like the wrong forum. Best, Kenya From mae at recnet.com Sun May 2 10:51:50 2021 From: mae at recnet.com (Michelle Bradley) Date: Sun, 2 May 2021 13:51:50 -0400 Subject: [grc] Media Alliance referenced In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: We don't need your TERF propaganda on this list.? Take it to Murdoch..? he may publish that rubbish in one of his tabs. =m she/her On 5/2/2021 12:41 PM, riva enteen via grc wrote: > Yes, I went after 3 things: covid, Russia-gate and pronouns. But I am not > alone. > As to the transgender issues, I gladly stand with Glenn Greenwald. A > principled discussion is always appropriate, and often, these days, > necessary. > MA thinks Silicon Valley should be the arbiter of truth or not? > > On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 9:34 AM Tracy Rosenberg > wrote: > >> Displaying that kind of insensitivity to gender pronouns in a public >> column is gross, Riva. >> >> You can insult people all day, but you end up all by yourself. >> >> Yuck. >> >> -Tracy >> >> >> >> On Sun, May 2, 2021, 09:25 riva enteen via grc >> wrote: >> >>> https://blackagendareport.com/reality-police-erase-lesbians-covid-skeptics-and-democracy >>> _______________________________________________ >>> grc mailing list >>> grc at maillist.peak.org >>> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc >>> > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc From rivaenteen at gmail.com Sun May 2 15:08:17 2021 From: rivaenteen at gmail.com (riva enteen) Date: Sun, 2 May 2021 15:08:17 -0700 Subject: [grc] Media Alliance referenced In-Reply-To: References: <0F899AD8-500A-4C49-A00E-0F40EDA6AB20@gmail.com> Message-ID: It was too much trouble for you to allow debate about your "circuit breaker technology." So you think FB can censor Robert Kennedy, Jr. because he violates their terms of service? I think pressure and judgement about remembering a person's pronouns (plural yet) when a large group is introducing themselves is a distraction from what we face, such as the real threat of nuclear war. And yes, I know I will be called transphobic, but I am proud to use the word feminist, although that apparently makes me a TERF. On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 10:04 AM Tracy Rosenberg wrote: > You were not considerate, Riva. You said that it was too much trouble for > you to observe the gender identities that people wish to be recognized by. > By definition, that is rude and not considerate. You clearly need to > rethink your position on not eradicating others. > > You also do not understand what circuit breaker technology is. Platforms > do not determine truth, but they do define their terms of service, like any > other website, list serv, company, radio station or organization. > > -Tracy > > > > > > > On Sun, May 2, 2021, 09:55 riva enteen via grc > wrote: > >> I am glad to be considerate, butI think controversial issues must be >> addressed in a principled manner. MA seemed to shut down any debate about >> Silicon Valley determining truth and I think Tracy's response with circuit >> breaker begs the question. >> >> On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 9:47 AM kenya lewis wrote: >> >> > Riva, >> > >> > What ?stablished? this poorly edited set of personal observations and >> > grudges is broadly relevant to this GRC list (or as part of a/the black >> > agenda)? >> > >> > Is it possible to be considerate of each other and use this listserv to >> > cooperate? >> > >> > Kenya >> _______________________________________________ >> grc mailing list >> grc at maillist.peak.org >> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc >> > From president at wortfm.org Sun May 2 15:17:57 2021 From: president at wortfm.org (David Devereaux-Weber) Date: Sun, 2 May 2021 17:17:57 -0500 Subject: [grc] Media Alliance referenced In-Reply-To: References: <0F899AD8-500A-4C49-A00E-0F40EDA6AB20@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi riva, The GRC is an email list created for the Grassroots Radio Conference. The purpose of the list is to discuss things about starting and operating community radio stations. We don't run Facebook. We don't determine policies for Facebook. Radio stations who subscribe to this list may wish to broadcast programs about this topic, but that is not the purpose of this list. You seem to be passionate about the topics of interest to you. That is great. But this is not the forum for that discussion. Dave David Devereaux-Weber President, WORT Board of Directors president at wortfm.org (608)576-2599 On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 5:08 PM riva enteen via grc wrote: > It was too much trouble for you to allow debate about your "circuit breaker > technology." So you think FB can censor Robert Kennedy, Jr. because he > violates their terms of service? > > I think pressure and judgement about remembering a person's pronouns > (plural yet) when a large group is introducing themselves is a distraction > from what we face, such as the real threat of nuclear war. And yes, I know > I will be called transphobic, but I am proud to use the word feminist, > although that apparently makes me a TERF. > > On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 10:04 AM Tracy Rosenberg > wrote: > > > You were not considerate, Riva. You said that it was too much trouble for > > you to observe the gender identities that people wish to be recognized > by. > > By definition, that is rude and not considerate. You clearly need to > > rethink your position on not eradicating others. > > > > You also do not understand what circuit breaker technology is. Platforms > > do not determine truth, but they do define their terms of service, like > any > > other website, list serv, company, radio station or organization. > > > > -Tracy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, May 2, 2021, 09:55 riva enteen via grc > > wrote: > > > >> I am glad to be considerate, butI think controversial issues must be > >> addressed in a principled manner. MA seemed to shut down any debate > about > >> Silicon Valley determining truth and I think Tracy's response with > circuit > >> breaker begs the question. > >> > >> On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 9:47 AM kenya lewis > wrote: > >> > >> > Riva, > >> > > >> > What ?stablished? this poorly edited set of personal observations and > >> > grudges is broadly relevant to this GRC list (or as part of a/the > black > >> > agenda)? > >> > > >> > Is it possible to be considerate of each other and use this listserv > to > >> > cooperate? > >> > > >> > Kenya > >> _______________________________________________ > >> grc mailing list > >> grc at maillist.peak.org > >> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > From adrienne at sonic.net Sun May 2 15:20:23 2021 From: adrienne at sonic.net (Adrienne) Date: Sun, 02 May 2021 15:20:23 -0700 Subject: [grc] Media Alliance referenced In-Reply-To: References: <0F899AD8-500A-4C49-A00E-0F40EDA6AB20@gmail.com> Message-ID: Please take this discussion off this list. Adrienne On 2021-05-02 3:08 pm, riva enteen via grc wrote: > It was too much trouble for you to allow debate about your "circuit breaker > technology." So you think FB can censor Robert Kennedy, Jr. because he > violates their terms of service? > > I think pressure and judgement about remembering a person's pronouns > (plural yet) when a large group is introducing themselves is a distraction > from what we face, such as the real threat of nuclear war. And yes, I know > I will be called transphobic, but I am proud to use the word feminist, > although that apparently makes me a TERF. > > On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 10:04 AM Tracy Rosenberg > wrote: > > You were not considerate, Riva. You said that it was too much trouble for > you to observe the gender identities that people wish to be recognized by. > By definition, that is rude and not considerate. You clearly need to > rethink your position on not eradicating others. > > You also do not understand what circuit breaker technology is. Platforms > do not determine truth, but they do define their terms of service, like any > other website, list serv, company, radio station or organization. > > -Tracy > > On Sun, May 2, 2021, 09:55 riva enteen via grc > wrote: > > I am glad to be considerate, butI think controversial issues must be > addressed in a principled manner. MA seemed to shut down any debate about > Silicon Valley determining truth and I think Tracy's response with circuit > breaker begs the question. > > On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 9:47 AM kenya lewis wrote: > > Riva, > > What "stablished" this poorly edited set of personal observations and > grudges is broadly relevant to this GRC list (or as part of a/the black > agenda)? > > Is it possible to be considerate of each other and use this listserv to > cooperate? > > Kenya _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc _______________________________________________ grc mailing list grc at maillist.peak.org http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc From rivaenteen at gmail.com Sun May 2 15:22:41 2021 From: rivaenteen at gmail.com (riva enteen) Date: Sun, 2 May 2021 15:22:41 -0700 Subject: [grc] Media Alliance referenced In-Reply-To: References: <0F899AD8-500A-4C49-A00E-0F40EDA6AB20@gmail.com> Message-ID: MA put out an email to this list supporting Silicon Valley censorship. So this is not a forum to respond to that? Frankly, I find it shocking that GRC doesn't grapple with this new, very controversial and potentially dangerous trend. The debate was shut down. I guess Adrienne agrees that we are not to talk about Silicon Valley censorship. No wonder the left is dead. On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 3:18 PM David Devereaux-Weber wrote: > Hi riva, > > The GRC is an email list created for the Grassroots Radio Conference. The > purpose of the list is to discuss things about starting and operating > community radio stations. We don't run Facebook. We don't determine > policies for Facebook. Radio stations who subscribe to this list may wish > to broadcast programs about this topic, but that is not the purpose of this > list. > > You seem to be passionate about the topics of interest to you. That is > great. But this is not the forum for that discussion. > > Dave > > David Devereaux-Weber > President, WORT Board of Directors > president at wortfm.org > (608)576-2599 > > > On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 5:08 PM riva enteen via grc > wrote: > >> It was too much trouble for you to allow debate about your "circuit >> breaker >> technology." So you think FB can censor Robert Kennedy, Jr. because he >> violates their terms of service? >> >> I think pressure and judgement about remembering a person's pronouns >> (plural yet) when a large group is introducing themselves is a distraction >> from what we face, such as the real threat of nuclear war. And yes, I >> know >> I will be called transphobic, but I am proud to use the word feminist, >> although that apparently makes me a TERF. >> >> On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 10:04 AM Tracy Rosenberg > > >> wrote: >> >> > You were not considerate, Riva. You said that it was too much trouble >> for >> > you to observe the gender identities that people wish to be recognized >> by. >> > By definition, that is rude and not considerate. You clearly need to >> > rethink your position on not eradicating others. >> > >> > You also do not understand what circuit breaker technology is. Platforms >> > do not determine truth, but they do define their terms of service, like >> any >> > other website, list serv, company, radio station or organization. >> > >> > -Tracy >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Sun, May 2, 2021, 09:55 riva enteen via grc >> > wrote: >> > >> >> I am glad to be considerate, butI think controversial issues must be >> >> addressed in a principled manner. MA seemed to shut down any debate >> about >> >> Silicon Valley determining truth and I think Tracy's response with >> circuit >> >> breaker begs the question. >> >> >> >> On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 9:47 AM kenya lewis >> wrote: >> >> >> >> > Riva, >> >> > >> >> > What ?stablished? this poorly edited set of personal observations and >> >> > grudges is broadly relevant to this GRC list (or as part of a/the >> black >> >> > agenda)? >> >> > >> >> > Is it possible to be considerate of each other and use this listserv >> to >> >> > cooperate? >> >> > >> >> > Kenya >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> grc mailing list >> >> grc at maillist.peak.org >> >> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc >> >> >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> grc mailing list >> grc at maillist.peak.org >> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc >> > From rivaenteen at gmail.com Sun May 2 15:24:36 2021 From: rivaenteen at gmail.com (riva enteen) Date: Sun, 2 May 2021 15:24:36 -0700 Subject: [grc] Media Alliance referenced In-Reply-To: References: <0F899AD8-500A-4C49-A00E-0F40EDA6AB20@gmail.com> Message-ID: https://sputniknews.com/us/202105021082786632-we-have-to-stop-them-senator-hawley-warns-that-big-tech-poses-gravest-threat-to-us---report/ But GRC doesn't talk about it. On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 3:22 PM riva enteen wrote: > MA put out an email to this list supporting Silicon Valley censorship. So > this is not a forum to respond to that? > Frankly, I find it shocking that GRC doesn't grapple with this new, very > controversial and potentially dangerous trend. The debate was shut down. > I guess Adrienne agrees that we are not to talk about Silicon Valley > censorship. No wonder the left is dead. > > On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 3:18 PM David Devereaux-Weber > wrote: > >> Hi riva, >> >> The GRC is an email list created for the Grassroots Radio Conference. The >> purpose of the list is to discuss things about starting and operating >> community radio stations. We don't run Facebook. We don't determine >> policies for Facebook. Radio stations who subscribe to this list may wish >> to broadcast programs about this topic, but that is not the purpose of this >> list. >> >> You seem to be passionate about the topics of interest to you. That is >> great. But this is not the forum for that discussion. >> >> Dave >> >> David Devereaux-Weber >> President, WORT Board of Directors >> president at wortfm.org >> (608)576-2599 >> >> >> On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 5:08 PM riva enteen via grc >> wrote: >> >>> It was too much trouble for you to allow debate about your "circuit >>> breaker >>> technology." So you think FB can censor Robert Kennedy, Jr. because he >>> violates their terms of service? >>> >>> I think pressure and judgement about remembering a person's pronouns >>> (plural yet) when a large group is introducing themselves is a >>> distraction >>> from what we face, such as the real threat of nuclear war. And yes, I >>> know >>> I will be called transphobic, but I am proud to use the word feminist, >>> although that apparently makes me a TERF. >>> >>> On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 10:04 AM Tracy Rosenberg < >>> tracy at media-alliance.org> >>> wrote: >>> >>> > You were not considerate, Riva. You said that it was too much trouble >>> for >>> > you to observe the gender identities that people wish to be recognized >>> by. >>> > By definition, that is rude and not considerate. You clearly need to >>> > rethink your position on not eradicating others. >>> > >>> > You also do not understand what circuit breaker technology is. >>> Platforms >>> > do not determine truth, but they do define their terms of service, >>> like any >>> > other website, list serv, company, radio station or organization. >>> > >>> > -Tracy >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > On Sun, May 2, 2021, 09:55 riva enteen via grc >>> > wrote: >>> > >>> >> I am glad to be considerate, butI think controversial issues must be >>> >> addressed in a principled manner. MA seemed to shut down any debate >>> about >>> >> Silicon Valley determining truth and I think Tracy's response with >>> circuit >>> >> breaker begs the question. >>> >> >>> >> On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 9:47 AM kenya lewis >>> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> > Riva, >>> >> > >>> >> > What ?stablished? this poorly edited set of personal observations >>> and >>> >> > grudges is broadly relevant to this GRC list (or as part of a/the >>> black >>> >> > agenda)? >>> >> > >>> >> > Is it possible to be considerate of each other and use this >>> listserv to >>> >> > cooperate? >>> >> > >>> >> > Kenya >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> grc mailing list >>> >> grc at maillist.peak.org >>> >> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc >>> >> >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ >>> grc mailing list >>> grc at maillist.peak.org >>> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc >>> >> From spencer.graves at effectivedefense.org Sun May 2 15:30:08 2021 From: spencer.graves at effectivedefense.org (Spencer Graves) Date: Sun, 2 May 2021 17:30:08 -0500 Subject: [grc] Media Alliance referenced In-Reply-To: References: <0F899AD8-500A-4C49-A00E-0F40EDA6AB20@gmail.com> Message-ID: 1. I perceive multiple issues in this thread. 2. I perceive the question of political correctness to be off topic, but Silicon Valley censorship is an extremely serious issue we should discuss. Spencer Graves On 5/2/21 5:24 PM, riva enteen via grc wrote: > https://sputniknews.com/us/202105021082786632-we-have-to-stop-them-senator-hawley-warns-that-big-tech-poses-gravest-threat-to-us---report/ > > But GRC doesn't talk about it. > > On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 3:22 PM riva enteen wrote: > >> MA put out an email to this list supporting Silicon Valley censorship. So >> this is not a forum to respond to that? >> Frankly, I find it shocking that GRC doesn't grapple with this new, very >> controversial and potentially dangerous trend. The debate was shut down. >> I guess Adrienne agrees that we are not to talk about Silicon Valley >> censorship. No wonder the left is dead. >> >> On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 3:18 PM David Devereaux-Weber >> wrote: >> >>> Hi riva, >>> >>> The GRC is an email list created for the Grassroots Radio Conference. The >>> purpose of the list is to discuss things about starting and operating >>> community radio stations. We don't run Facebook. We don't determine >>> policies for Facebook. Radio stations who subscribe to this list may wish >>> to broadcast programs about this topic, but that is not the purpose of this >>> list. >>> >>> You seem to be passionate about the topics of interest to you. That is >>> great. But this is not the forum for that discussion. >>> >>> Dave >>> >>> David Devereaux-Weber >>> President, WORT Board of Directors >>> president at wortfm.org >>> (608)576-2599 >>> >>> >>> On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 5:08 PM riva enteen via grc >>> wrote: >>> >>>> It was too much trouble for you to allow debate about your "circuit >>>> breaker >>>> technology." So you think FB can censor Robert Kennedy, Jr. because he >>>> violates their terms of service? >>>> >>>> I think pressure and judgement about remembering a person's pronouns >>>> (plural yet) when a large group is introducing themselves is a >>>> distraction >>>> from what we face, such as the real threat of nuclear war. And yes, I >>>> know >>>> I will be called transphobic, but I am proud to use the word feminist, >>>> although that apparently makes me a TERF. >>>> >>>> On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 10:04 AM Tracy Rosenberg < >>>> tracy at media-alliance.org> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> You were not considerate, Riva. You said that it was too much trouble >>>> for >>>>> you to observe the gender identities that people wish to be recognized >>>> by. >>>>> By definition, that is rude and not considerate. You clearly need to >>>>> rethink your position on not eradicating others. >>>>> >>>>> You also do not understand what circuit breaker technology is. >>>> Platforms >>>>> do not determine truth, but they do define their terms of service, >>>> like any >>>>> other website, list serv, company, radio station or organization. >>>>> >>>>> -Tracy >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, May 2, 2021, 09:55 riva enteen via grc >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I am glad to be considerate, butI think controversial issues must be >>>>>> addressed in a principled manner. MA seemed to shut down any debate >>>> about >>>>>> Silicon Valley determining truth and I think Tracy's response with >>>> circuit >>>>>> breaker begs the question. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 9:47 AM kenya lewis >>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Riva, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What ?stablished? this poorly edited set of personal observations >>>> and >>>>>>> grudges is broadly relevant to this GRC list (or as part of a/the >>>> black >>>>>>> agenda)? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is it possible to be considerate of each other and use this >>>> listserv to >>>>>>> cooperate? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Kenya >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> grc mailing list >>>>>> grc at maillist.peak.org >>>>>> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> grc mailing list >>>> grc at maillist.peak.org >>>> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc >>>> >>> > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > From spencer.graves at effectivedefense.org Sun May 2 15:32:23 2021 From: spencer.graves at effectivedefense.org (Spencer Graves) Date: Sun, 2 May 2021 17:32:23 -0500 Subject: [grc] =?utf-8?q?Fwd=3A_Google=E2=80=99s_attack_on_progressives?= In-Reply-To: <249d16-6d09-6089847a@list.demandprogress.org> References: <249d16-6d09-6089847a@list.demandprogress.org> Message-ID: -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Google?s attack on email Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2021 15:51:39 +0000 From: Keep Demanding Progress Reply-To: info at demandprogress.org To: Spencer Graves Google is messing with your inbox, and it?s threatening our work. Dear Spencer, It was April 2020. The coronavirus pandemic was in full swing, and some of our biggest issues?from the continuity of Congress to the power of Big Tech?were in the public eye. *And then our Gmail traffic suddenly dropped off.* Fewer people were opening our emails than before. Changes in Gmail's inbox filters have been sending emails people signed up for to spam and make it harder to take on corporate power.^1 *Big Tech corporations like Google are using their control over the internet to undermine our ability to tell you about important issues and ways you can take urgent action. The ongoing attack on progressive organizations has resulted in a serious drop in donations?donations we depend on to mobilize the grassroots.* *Will you donate to Demand Progress right now and help us fight back against Big Tech?s undemocratic and unaccountable power? * It wasn?t just Demand Progress. Last year, data analysts at the Markup discovered that only 2% of email from Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders were reaching users? inboxes at the height of the presidential primary, even though users had asked to receive their email updates. Emails were instead going to promotions and even spam folders.^2 /If you've saved your payment information with ActBlue Express, your donation will go through immediately:/ Donate $20 Donate $40 Donate $75 Or, donate another amount Since Google and Facebook began these troubling practices, organizations like Demand Progress have had a harder time getting emails to people who have asked to hear from us.^3 Emails about the open internet, the filibuster, and corporate greed, and more are often being kept out of your inbox by Google, preventing more people from taking action. Imagine the impact on us as an organization taking on the establishment and their corporate money, or mobilizing to challenge a government that oppresses us. The internet is supposed to empower us and make it easy for us to organize, raise money, and make change. *But Big Tech is making that increasingly difficult, and donations are down 30% from this time last year. * One of our main campaigns is taking on the power of these huge tech companies. It?s become clear to everyone that Google and Facebook have too much control over what people see on the internet, and they are abusing that power in order to make a profit. Amazon abuses its dominant market position to crush small businesses and workers. We need to fight back, and these giants are making our work harder. We?ve just launched a brand new website, and we?re working to make ourselves heard on alternate social media channels. 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Contributions are not deductible as charitable contributions for federal income tax purposes. Join our online community on *Facebook * or *Twitter .* You can unsubscribe from this list at any time. From president at wortfm.org Sun May 2 15:53:24 2021 From: president at wortfm.org (David Devereaux-Weber) Date: Sun, 2 May 2021 17:53:24 -0500 Subject: [grc] =?utf-8?q?Fwd=3A_Google=E2=80=99s_attack_on_progressives?= In-Reply-To: References: <249d16-6d09-6089847a@list.demandprogress.org> Message-ID: Facebook and Google are privately held corporations. They are under no obligation to be fair or unbiased. The community radio stations that this list was created for cannot change Facebook or Google. Regardless of how we feel about them, or what we write about them, we are unlikely to change their behavior. If you would like to make a pitch to the radio stations on this list to do a radio show about these topics, this is the place. But these discussions of the evils of the world just fills up peoples' email boxes and does not solve anything. It just frustrates the radio stations that need this tool to talk about radio issues. Riva and Spencer: you have websites. You are free to write what you want. Go out to social media and write messages to draw readers in to read what you write. That is not the purpose of this list. Dave David Devereaux-Weber President, WORT Board of Directors president at wortfm.org (608)576-2599 On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 5:32 PM Spencer Graves via grc wrote: > > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject: Google?s attack on email > Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2021 15:51:39 +0000 > From: Keep Demanding Progress > Reply-To: info at demandprogress.org > To: Spencer Graves > > > > Google is messing with your inbox, and it?s threatening our work. > > Dear Spencer, > > It was April 2020. The coronavirus pandemic was in full swing, and some > of our biggest issues?from the continuity of Congress to the power of > Big Tech?were in the public eye. > > *And then our Gmail traffic suddenly dropped off.* Fewer people were > opening our emails than before. Changes in Gmail's inbox filters have > been sending emails people signed up for to spam and make it harder to > take on corporate power.^1 > > *Big Tech corporations like Google are using their control over the > internet to undermine our ability to tell you about important issues and > ways you can take urgent action. The ongoing attack on progressive > organizations has resulted in a serious drop in donations?donations we > depend on to mobilize the grassroots.* > > *Will you donate to Demand Progress right now and help us fight back > against Big Tech?s undemocratic and unaccountable power? > < > https://act.demandprogress.org/go/39934?amount=200&t=1&akid=27913%2E2399510%2EqDJ6gh > >* > > It wasn?t just Demand Progress. Last year, data analysts at the Markup > discovered that only 2% of email from Elizabeth Warren and Bernie > Sanders were reaching users? inboxes at the height of the presidential > primary, even though users had asked to receive their email updates. > Emails were instead going to promotions and even spam folders.^2 > > /If you've saved your payment information with ActBlue Express, your > donation will go through immediately:/ > > Donate $20 > > > > > Donate $40 > > > > > Donate $75 > > > > > Or, donate another amount > > > > Since Google and Facebook began these troubling practices, organizations > like Demand Progress have had a harder time getting emails to people who > have asked to hear from us.^3 Emails about the open internet, the > filibuster, and corporate greed, and more are often being kept out of > your inbox by Google, preventing more people from taking action. > > Imagine the impact on us as an organization taking on the establishment > and their corporate money, or mobilizing to challenge a government that > oppresses us. The internet is supposed to empower us and make it easy > for us to organize, raise money, and make change. > > *But Big Tech is making that increasingly difficult, and donations are > down 30% from this time last year. * > > One of our main campaigns is taking on the power of these huge tech > companies. It?s become clear to everyone that Google and Facebook have > too much control over what people see on the internet, and they are > abusing that power in order to make a profit. Amazon abuses its dominant > market position to crush small businesses and workers. We need to fight > back, and these giants are making our work harder. > > We?ve just launched a brand new website, and we?re working to make > ourselves heard on alternate social media channels. We?ve also launched > a campaign asking President Biden and Congress to take on the power of > Google and the other Big Tech companies. *We can rise above Big Tech and > keep demanding progress, but only with the support of our donors. * > > *Will you help us raise $25,000 by May 1? > < > https://act.demandprogress.org/go/39934?amount=200&t=6&akid=27913%2E2399510%2EqDJ6gh > >* > > Thanks for standing with us. > > Robert Cruickshank, > Demand Progress > > DONATE > < > https://act.demandprogress.org/go/39934?amount=200&t=7&akid=27913%2E2399510%2EqDJ6gh > > > > Sources: > > 1. /Business Insider/, "Mark Zuckerberg reportedly signed off on a > Facebook algorithm change that throttled traffic to progressive news > sites ? and one site says that quiet change cost it $400,000 to $600,000 > a year," October 19, 2020 > > > 2. /The Guardian/, "Is Gmail hiding Bernie?s emails to you? How inbox > filtering may impact democracy," February 26, 2020 > > > 3. Ibid. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > PAID FOR BY DEMAND PROGRESS (DemandProgress.org > ) and not > authorized by any candidate or candidate's committee. Contributions are > not deductible as charitable contributions for federal income tax > purposes. Join our online community on *Facebook > * or *Twitter > .* > > You can unsubscribe > < > http://act.demandprogress.org/cms/unsubscribe/unsubscribe/?t=11&akid=27913%2E2399510%2EqDJ6gh> > > from this list at any time. > > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > From anniegarrison at gmail.com Sun May 2 16:34:32 2021 From: anniegarrison at gmail.com (Ann Garrison) Date: Sun, 2 May 2021 16:34:32 -0700 Subject: [grc] Media Alliance referenced In-Reply-To: References: <0F899AD8-500A-4C49-A00E-0F40EDA6AB20@gmail.com> Message-ID: I agree that internet censorship is now such a critical media issue that it merits discussion on this list, so long as it remains rational rather than vituperative. Discussion within Pacifica Radio often becomes vituperative fast, and I wish that weren't so, but over the years I've learned it's best to walk away once that happens. We produced two shows on censorship and surveillance, with particular emphasis on internet censorship, for "COVID, Race, and Democracy." Nick Huntley, cybersecurity specialist and producer of "Nick?s Nerd News," a show syndicated on Audioport, contributed a piece on Amazon surveillance to the last one. https://covidtaskforce.pacifica.org/2021/01/25/covid-surveillance-and-big-tech-censorship-january-25-2021/ https://covidtaskforce.pacifica.org/2021/03/02/covid-big-tech-censorship-surveillance-part-2-march-1-2021/ On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 3:22 PM riva enteen via grc wrote: > MA put out an email to this list supporting Silicon Valley censorship. So > this is not a forum to respond to that? > Frankly, I find it shocking that GRC doesn't grapple with this new, very > controversial and potentially dangerous trend. The debate was shut down. > I guess Adrienne agrees that we are not to talk about Silicon Valley > censorship. No wonder the left is dead. > > On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 3:18 PM David Devereaux-Weber > > wrote: > > > Hi riva, > > > > The GRC is an email list created for the Grassroots Radio Conference. The > > purpose of the list is to discuss things about starting and operating > > community radio stations. We don't run Facebook. We don't determine > > policies for Facebook. Radio stations who subscribe to this list may wish > > to broadcast programs about this topic, but that is not the purpose of > this > > list. > > > > You seem to be passionate about the topics of interest to you. That is > > great. But this is not the forum for that discussion. > > > > Dave > > > > David Devereaux-Weber > > President, WORT Board of Directors > > president at wortfm.org > > (608)576-2599 > > > > > > On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 5:08 PM riva enteen via grc < > grc at maillist.peak.org> > > wrote: > > > >> It was too much trouble for you to allow debate about your "circuit > >> breaker > >> technology." So you think FB can censor Robert Kennedy, Jr. because he > >> violates their terms of service? > >> > >> I think pressure and judgement about remembering a person's pronouns > >> (plural yet) when a large group is introducing themselves is a > distraction > >> from what we face, such as the real threat of nuclear war. And yes, I > >> know > >> I will be called transphobic, but I am proud to use the word feminist, > >> although that apparently makes me a TERF. > >> > >> On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 10:04 AM Tracy Rosenberg < > tracy at media-alliance.org > >> > > >> wrote: > >> > >> > You were not considerate, Riva. You said that it was too much trouble > >> for > >> > you to observe the gender identities that people wish to be recognized > >> by. > >> > By definition, that is rude and not considerate. You clearly need to > >> > rethink your position on not eradicating others. > >> > > >> > You also do not understand what circuit breaker technology is. > Platforms > >> > do not determine truth, but they do define their terms of service, > like > >> any > >> > other website, list serv, company, radio station or organization. > >> > > >> > -Tracy > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > On Sun, May 2, 2021, 09:55 riva enteen via grc > > >> > wrote: > >> > > >> >> I am glad to be considerate, butI think controversial issues must be > >> >> addressed in a principled manner. MA seemed to shut down any debate > >> about > >> >> Silicon Valley determining truth and I think Tracy's response with > >> circuit > >> >> breaker begs the question. > >> >> > >> >> On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 9:47 AM kenya lewis > >> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > Riva, > >> >> > > >> >> > What ?stablished? this poorly edited set of personal observations > and > >> >> > grudges is broadly relevant to this GRC list (or as part of a/the > >> black > >> >> > agenda)? > >> >> > > >> >> > Is it possible to be considerate of each other and use this > listserv > >> to > >> >> > cooperate? > >> >> > > >> >> > Kenya > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> grc mailing list > >> >> grc at maillist.peak.org > >> >> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > >> >> > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > >> grc mailing list > >> grc at maillist.peak.org > >> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > -- Sincerely, @AnnGarrison Independent Journalist, SKYPE: Ann Garrison, Oakland 415-503-7487 From tracy at media-alliance.org Sun May 2 22:29:55 2021 From: tracy at media-alliance.org (Tracy Rosenberg) Date: Sun, 2 May 2021 22:29:55 -0700 Subject: [grc] Media Alliance referenced In-Reply-To: References: <0F899AD8-500A-4C49-A00E-0F40EDA6AB20@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi all, I'm sorry this landed on this list, and it appears to have been an error by the OP, which I'll mention below. But since my name was dragged here w/o my permission, let me clarify a few things. 1) What is commonly known as "terfing" or gender pronoun disrespect isn't okay and it isn't about that righwing canard "political correctness". It is about letting people tell their own stories about themselves and respecting others as being as fully human as oneself and not refracting their ideas about themselves through a self-centered perspective about how it makes "you" feel. It is new for many of us. I have mis-gendered people. And in so doing, I have learned a lot about why I was doing that and why I needed to stop. Progress is hard. But it is when we stop trying that we commit sins against fellow human beings. There is no excuse for not recognizing anyone's chosen gender identity and no excuse for whining about it or dismissing it. 2) Media Alliance does not send our organizational bulletins to the GRC list, just like no one else does. Riva is mistaken in her claim that Media Alliance sent the circuit breaker petition to GRC. We did not. Riva receives our email bulletins because she is subscribed to our mailing list and if she does not want to be, there is a little button called unsubscribe at the bottom of each one. It is possible a member of GRC forwarded the petition here. I dunno. If so, that was their choice. But I expect that the original poster just got confused by their email inbox. 3) The ensuing conversation is confused on several counts. To start with, social media is not the same thing as email. "The Internet" is not the same thing as social media, nor is it the same thing as email. No one is censored on "the Internet". For the price of a domain name, anyone can set up a free website and say whatever they want. When people talk about "censorship", what they mean is traffic to their site or their content, which is a different matter. Free speech is not the same thing as a guaranteed audience size. 4) With regard to Spencer's post. Demand Progress are friends of mine, as are some others that have been using this talking point in their fundraising emails, like Common Dreams. It stems from a righwing talking point used at a Congressional hearing when a Republican started yelling about how his brother's campaign emails ended up in his spam folder and used it as proof that Google is biased against Republicans. Most of us made fun of it for a long time afterwards and I can't tell you how distressed I am to see progressives picking up a dumb rightwing talking point. As Pichai explained, and I will repeat, spam filters on email accounts like Gmail are a) popular with users and b) based on a long list of technical factors related to bulk emailing that include how fast unsubscribes and bounces are tended to, the number of bad email addresses, the frequency of emails sent, the open rates, the SPC setting on the sender email address, the number of spam complaints received and so on. While of course, these formulas could be more transparent, they aren't unknown and that is why digital directors are a job category. With political emails, because I got all of them (Sanders, Warren, Trump, Biden, Buttigieg, Klobuchar, Yang, Gabbard et al), I can personally testify that for all of them, some made it to my inbox and some ended up in spam. My recollection is that Trump was fairly adept at avoiding the spam box and so was Sanders later in his campaign, but not earlier. Warren did not have top knotch digital staff. The answer to what emails end up in spam is a tech question, not a political question and it isn't helpful to pretend otherwise. For those groups sending fundraising letters, well the accuracy of fundraising letters leaves a lot to be desired. It is a good idea not to pretend a donate email is a meaningful political analysis. It's a hook to encourage you to donate money. 5) A circuit breaker policy on social media has been recommended by a number of blue ribbon experts. The idea seems to have originated with Rutgers law professor Ellen Goodman ( https://law.rutgers.edu/directory/view/1020). It is not censorship, which is the prevention of content being posted. The problem of virality in social media is pretty much just the web 2.0 version of the old mainstream media problem of "if it bleeds, it leads". Being machines, the AI that powers social media algorithims pretty much interprets engagement as popularity. So a post of blatant lies that gets 600 people correcting it (i.e. the sun is closer to the earth than the moon) is perceived as desirable content, because so many people said "fuck no, that's wrong", while valuable posts that don't motivate so many people to correct them are seen as less popular and less desirable. It's the same thing that happened when daily newspapers plastered a bloody victim of a crime picture on the front page and sold three times as many copies as usual because people reacted and they drew from that exactly all the wrong conclusions. Everything old is new again. So left to their own devices, repulsive social media posts are served by the algorithim. This is exacerbated by the fact that the right wing has invested in a bot ecosphere to rapidly engage and kick up the AI and neither progressives nor centrist democrats have anything even remotely equal. That is why when you get lists of the 20 most viral posts any week of the year from Facebook, it is all or almost all rabid right wing frothing at the mouth. Similarly, that is why Donald Trump had so many followers on Twitter. It was a bot collection for the purpose of supercharging his content. When people play the system, it is more than reasonable to play back. A circuit breaker censors nothing, but it slows down super-spreader content that is being manipulated for virality by coordinated networks for a short period of time, allowing for human review before it appears in hundreds of thousands or even millions of feeds. None of this impacts the original post, It remains. And none of this impacts progressive media because I hate to break it to you, progressive media content is not the superspreader content. This is apart from issues of community standards and terms of service, which on social media platforms are frequently applied by low wage workers, often in India, who make frequent mistakes. The answer for that is more resources for the function, which is a hard sell for the move fast and break things crowd. But all a circuit breaker is, is an artificial intelligence brake, and it is foolish to equate that with censorship. Way too broad a brush and essentially a meaningless argument imho. - Tracy On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 4:34 PM Ann Garrison via grc wrote: > I agree that internet censorship is now such a critical media issue that it > merits discussion on this list, so long as it remains rational rather than > vituperative. Discussion within Pacifica Radio often becomes vituperative > fast, and I wish that weren't so, but over the years I've learned it's best > to walk away once that happens. > > We produced two shows on censorship and surveillance, with particular > emphasis on internet censorship, for "COVID, Race, and Democracy." Nick > Huntley, cybersecurity specialist and producer of "Nick?s Nerd News," a > show syndicated on Audioport, contributed a piece on Amazon surveillance to > the last one. > > https://covidtaskforce.pacifica.org/2021/01/25/covid-surveillance-and-big-tech-censorship-january-25-2021/ > > https://covidtaskforce.pacifica.org/2021/03/02/covid-big-tech-censorship-surveillance-part-2-march-1-2021/ > > On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 3:22 PM riva enteen via grc > wrote: > > > MA put out an email to this list supporting Silicon Valley censorship. > So > > this is not a forum to respond to that? > > Frankly, I find it shocking that GRC doesn't grapple with this new, very > > controversial and potentially dangerous trend. The debate was shut down. > > I guess Adrienne agrees that we are not to talk about Silicon Valley > > censorship. No wonder the left is dead. > > > > On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 3:18 PM David Devereaux-Weber < > president at wortfm.org > > > > > wrote: > > > > > Hi riva, > > > > > > The GRC is an email list created for the Grassroots Radio Conference. > The > > > purpose of the list is to discuss things about starting and operating > > > community radio stations. We don't run Facebook. We don't determine > > > policies for Facebook. Radio stations who subscribe to this list may > wish > > > to broadcast programs about this topic, but that is not the purpose of > > this > > > list. > > > > > > You seem to be passionate about the topics of interest to you. That is > > > great. But this is not the forum for that discussion. > > > > > > Dave > > > > > > David Devereaux-Weber > > > President, WORT Board of Directors > > > president at wortfm.org > > > (608)576-2599 > > > > > > > > > On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 5:08 PM riva enteen via grc < > > grc at maillist.peak.org> > > > wrote: > > > > > >> It was too much trouble for you to allow debate about your "circuit > > >> breaker > > >> technology." So you think FB can censor Robert Kennedy, Jr. because > he > > >> violates their terms of service? > > >> > > >> I think pressure and judgement about remembering a person's pronouns > > >> (plural yet) when a large group is introducing themselves is a > > distraction > > >> from what we face, such as the real threat of nuclear war. And yes, I > > >> know > > >> I will be called transphobic, but I am proud to use the word feminist, > > >> although that apparently makes me a TERF. > > >> > > >> On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 10:04 AM Tracy Rosenberg < > > tracy at media-alliance.org > > >> > > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >> > You were not considerate, Riva. You said that it was too much > trouble > > >> for > > >> > you to observe the gender identities that people wish to be > recognized > > >> by. > > >> > By definition, that is rude and not considerate. You clearly need to > > >> > rethink your position on not eradicating others. > > >> > > > >> > You also do not understand what circuit breaker technology is. > > Platforms > > >> > do not determine truth, but they do define their terms of service, > > like > > >> any > > >> > other website, list serv, company, radio station or organization. > > >> > > > >> > -Tracy > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > On Sun, May 2, 2021, 09:55 riva enteen via grc < > grc at maillist.peak.org > > > > > >> > wrote: > > >> > > > >> >> I am glad to be considerate, butI think controversial issues must > be > > >> >> addressed in a principled manner. MA seemed to shut down any > debate > > >> about > > >> >> Silicon Valley determining truth and I think Tracy's response with > > >> circuit > > >> >> breaker begs the question. > > >> >> > > >> >> On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 9:47 AM kenya lewis > > >> wrote: > > >> >> > > >> >> > Riva, > > >> >> > > > >> >> > What ?stablished? this poorly edited set of personal observations > > and > > >> >> > grudges is broadly relevant to this GRC list (or as part of a/the > > >> black > > >> >> > agenda)? > > >> >> > > > >> >> > Is it possible to be considerate of each other and use this > > listserv > > >> to > > >> >> > cooperate? > > >> >> > > > >> >> > Kenya > > >> >> _______________________________________________ > > >> >> grc mailing list > > >> >> grc at maillist.peak.org > > >> >> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > > >> >> > > >> > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> grc mailing list > > >> grc at maillist.peak.org > > >> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > > >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > grc mailing list > > grc at maillist.peak.org > > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > > > > > -- > Sincerely, > @AnnGarrison > Independent Journalist, > SKYPE: Ann Garrison, Oakland > 415-503-7487 > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > -- Tracy Rosenberg Executive Director Media Alliance 2830 20th Street Suite 201 San Francisco, CA 94110 www.media-alliance.org 415-746-9475 510-684-6853 Cell Encrypted email at tracy.rosenberg at protonmail.com Text via Signal - From anniegarrison at gmail.com Sun May 2 23:18:31 2021 From: anniegarrison at gmail.com (Ann Garrison) Date: Sun, 2 May 2021 23:18:31 -0700 Subject: [grc] Media Alliance referenced In-Reply-To: References: <0F899AD8-500A-4C49-A00E-0F40EDA6AB20@gmail.com> Message-ID: Many interesting points, Tracy, which I consider worthy of discussion on this list. I'll quarrel with only one for the moment. Practice puts constant pressure on the language, and "internet censorship" is now common parlance for search engines and social media platforms erasure of content, whether with algorithms, low wage labor, or decisions made at a higher organizational level. On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 10:30 PM Tracy Rosenberg via grc < grc at maillist.peak.org> wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm sorry this landed on this list, and it appears to have been an error by > the OP, which I'll mention below. But since my name was dragged here w/o my > permission, let me clarify a few things. > > 1) What is commonly known as "terfing" or gender pronoun disrespect isn't > okay and it isn't about that righwing canard "political correctness". It is > about letting people tell their own stories about themselves and respecting > others > as being as fully human as oneself and not refracting their ideas about > themselves through a self-centered perspective about how it makes "you" > feel. It is new for many of us. I have mis-gendered people. And in so > doing, I have > learned a lot about why I was doing that and why I needed to stop. Progress > is hard. But it is when we stop trying that we commit sins against fellow > human beings. There is no excuse for not recognizing anyone's chosen gender > identity and no excuse for whining about it or dismissing it. > > 2) Media Alliance does not send our organizational bulletins to the GRC > list, just like no one else does. Riva is mistaken in her claim that Media > Alliance sent the circuit breaker petition to GRC. We did not. Riva > receives our email bulletins because she is subscribed to our mailing list > and if she does not want to be, there is a little button called unsubscribe > at the bottom of each one. It is possible a member of GRC forwarded the > petition here. I dunno. If so, that was their choice. But I expect that the > original poster just got confused by their email inbox. > > 3) The ensuing conversation is confused on several counts. To start with, > social media is not the same thing as email. "The Internet" is not the same > thing as social media, nor is it the same thing as email. No one is > censored on "the Internet". For the price of a domain name, anyone can set > up a free website and say whatever they want. When people talk about > "censorship", what they mean is traffic to their site or their content, > which is a different matter. Free speech is not the same thing as a > guaranteed audience size. > > 4) With regard to Spencer's post. Demand Progress are friends of mine, as > are some others that have been using this talking point in their > fundraising emails, like Common Dreams. It stems from a righwing talking > point used at a Congressional hearing when a Republican started yelling > about how his brother's campaign emails ended up in his spam folder and > used it as proof that Google is biased against Republicans. Most of us made > fun of it for a long time > afterwards and I can't tell you how distressed I am to see progressives > picking up a dumb rightwing talking point. As Pichai explained, and I will > repeat, spam filters on email accounts like Gmail are a) popular with users > and b) based on a long list of technical factors related to bulk emailing > that include how fast unsubscribes and bounces are tended to, the number of > bad email addresses, the frequency of emails sent, the open rates, the SPC > setting on the sender email address, the number of spam complaints received > and so on. While of course, these formulas could be more transparent, they > aren't unknown and that is why digital directors are a job category. With > political emails, because I got all of them (Sanders, Warren, Trump, Biden, > Buttigieg, Klobuchar, Yang, Gabbard et al), I can personally testify that > for all of them, some made it to my inbox and some ended up in spam. My > recollection is that Trump was fairly adept at avoiding the spam box and so > was Sanders later in his campaign, but not earlier. Warren did not have top > knotch digital staff. The answer to what emails end up in spam is a tech > question, not a political question and it isn't helpful to pretend > otherwise. For those groups sending fundraising letters, well the accuracy > of fundraising letters leaves a lot to be desired. It is a good idea not to > pretend a donate email is a meaningful political analysis. It's a hook to > encourage you to donate money. > > 5) A circuit breaker policy on social media has been recommended by a > number of blue ribbon experts. The idea seems to have originated with > Rutgers law professor Ellen Goodman ( > https://law.rutgers.edu/directory/view/1020). It is not censorship, which > is the prevention of content being posted. The problem of virality in > social media is pretty much just the web 2.0 version of the old mainstream > media problem of "if it bleeds, it leads". Being machines, the AI that > powers social media algorithims pretty much interprets engagement as > popularity. So a post of blatant lies that gets 600 people correcting it > (i.e. the sun is closer to the earth than the moon) is perceived as > desirable content, because so many people said "fuck no, that's wrong", > while valuable posts that don't motivate so many people to correct them are > seen as less popular and less desirable. It's the same thing that happened > when daily newspapers plastered a bloody victim of a crime picture on the > front page and sold three times as many copies as usual because people > reacted and they drew from that exactly all the wrong conclusions. > Everything old is new again. > > So left to their own devices, repulsive social media posts are served by > the algorithim. This is exacerbated by the fact that the right wing has > invested in a bot ecosphere to rapidly engage and kick up the AI and > neither progressives nor centrist democrats have anything even remotely > equal. That is why when you get lists of the 20 most viral posts any week > of the year from Facebook, it is all or almost all rabid right wing > frothing at the mouth. Similarly, that is why Donald Trump had so many > followers on Twitter. It was a bot collection for the purpose of > supercharging his content. When people play the system, it is more than > reasonable to play back. A circuit breaker censors nothing, but it slows > down super-spreader content that is being manipulated for virality by > coordinated networks for a short period of time, allowing for human review > before it appears in hundreds of thousands or even millions of feeds. None > of this impacts the original post, It remains. And none of this impacts > progressive media because I hate to break it to you, progressive media > content is not the superspreader content. > > This is apart from issues of community standards and terms of service, > which on social media platforms are frequently applied by low wage workers, > often in India, who make frequent mistakes. The answer for that is more > resources for the function, which is a hard sell for the move fast and > break things crowd. > > But all a circuit breaker is, is an artificial intelligence brake, and it > is foolish to equate that with censorship. Way too broad a brush and > essentially a meaningless argument imho. > > - Tracy > > On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 4:34 PM Ann Garrison via grc > > wrote: > > > I agree that internet censorship is now such a critical media issue that > it > > merits discussion on this list, so long as it remains rational rather > than > > vituperative. Discussion within Pacifica Radio often becomes > vituperative > > fast, and I wish that weren't so, but over the years I've learned it's > best > > to walk away once that happens. > > > > We produced two shows on censorship and surveillance, with particular > > emphasis on internet censorship, for "COVID, Race, and Democracy." Nick > > Huntley, cybersecurity specialist and producer of "Nick?s Nerd News," a > > show syndicated on Audioport, contributed a piece on Amazon surveillance > to > > the last one. > > > > > https://covidtaskforce.pacifica.org/2021/01/25/covid-surveillance-and-big-tech-censorship-january-25-2021/ > > > > > https://covidtaskforce.pacifica.org/2021/03/02/covid-big-tech-censorship-surveillance-part-2-march-1-2021/ > > > > On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 3:22 PM riva enteen via grc < > grc at maillist.peak.org> > > wrote: > > > > > MA put out an email to this list supporting Silicon Valley censorship. > > So > > > this is not a forum to respond to that? > > > Frankly, I find it shocking that GRC doesn't grapple with this new, > very > > > controversial and potentially dangerous trend. The debate was shut > down. > > > I guess Adrienne agrees that we are not to talk about Silicon Valley > > > censorship. No wonder the left is dead. > > > > > > On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 3:18 PM David Devereaux-Weber < > > president at wortfm.org > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Hi riva, > > > > > > > > The GRC is an email list created for the Grassroots Radio Conference. > > The > > > > purpose of the list is to discuss things about starting and operating > > > > community radio stations. We don't run Facebook. We don't determine > > > > policies for Facebook. Radio stations who subscribe to this list may > > wish > > > > to broadcast programs about this topic, but that is not the purpose > of > > > this > > > > list. > > > > > > > > You seem to be passionate about the topics of interest to you. That > is > > > > great. But this is not the forum for that discussion. > > > > > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > David Devereaux-Weber > > > > President, WORT Board of Directors > > > > president at wortfm.org > > > > (608)576-2599 > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 5:08 PM riva enteen via grc < > > > grc at maillist.peak.org> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> It was too much trouble for you to allow debate about your "circuit > > > >> breaker > > > >> technology." So you think FB can censor Robert Kennedy, Jr. because > > he > > > >> violates their terms of service? > > > >> > > > >> I think pressure and judgement about remembering a person's pronouns > > > >> (plural yet) when a large group is introducing themselves is a > > > distraction > > > >> from what we face, such as the real threat of nuclear war. And > yes, I > > > >> know > > > >> I will be called transphobic, but I am proud to use the word > feminist, > > > >> although that apparently makes me a TERF. > > > >> > > > >> On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 10:04 AM Tracy Rosenberg < > > > tracy at media-alliance.org > > > >> > > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > > > >> > You were not considerate, Riva. You said that it was too much > > trouble > > > >> for > > > >> > you to observe the gender identities that people wish to be > > recognized > > > >> by. > > > >> > By definition, that is rude and not considerate. You clearly need > to > > > >> > rethink your position on not eradicating others. > > > >> > > > > >> > You also do not understand what circuit breaker technology is. > > > Platforms > > > >> > do not determine truth, but they do define their terms of service, > > > like > > > >> any > > > >> > other website, list serv, company, radio station or organization. > > > >> > > > > >> > -Tracy > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > On Sun, May 2, 2021, 09:55 riva enteen via grc < > > grc at maillist.peak.org > > > > > > > >> > wrote: > > > >> > > > > >> >> I am glad to be considerate, butI think controversial issues must > > be > > > >> >> addressed in a principled manner. MA seemed to shut down any > > debate > > > >> about > > > >> >> Silicon Valley determining truth and I think Tracy's response > with > > > >> circuit > > > >> >> breaker begs the question. > > > >> >> > > > >> >> On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 9:47 AM kenya lewis > > > > >> wrote: > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > Riva, > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > What ?stablished? this poorly edited set of personal > observations > > > and > > > >> >> > grudges is broadly relevant to this GRC list (or as part of > a/the > > > >> black > > > >> >> > agenda)? > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > Is it possible to be considerate of each other and use this > > > listserv > > > >> to > > > >> >> > cooperate? > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > Kenya > > > >> >> _______________________________________________ > > > >> >> grc mailing list > > > >> >> grc at maillist.peak.org > > > >> >> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > >> grc mailing list > > > >> grc at maillist.peak.org > > > >> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > > > >> > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > grc mailing list > > > grc at maillist.peak.org > > > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > > > > > > > > > -- > > Sincerely, > > @AnnGarrison > > Independent Journalist, > > SKYPE: Ann Garrison, Oakland > > 415-503-7487 > > _______________________________________________ > > grc mailing list > > grc at maillist.peak.org > > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > > > > > -- > Tracy Rosenberg > Executive Director > Media Alliance > 2830 20th Street Suite 201 > San Francisco, CA 94110 > www.media-alliance.org > 415-746-9475 > 510-684-6853 Cell > Encrypted email at tracy.rosenberg at protonmail.com > Text via Signal > > - > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > -- Sincerely, @AnnGarrison Independent Journalist, SKYPE: Ann Garrison, Oakland 415-503-7487 From rivaenteen at gmail.com Mon May 3 08:14:09 2021 From: rivaenteen at gmail.com (riva enteen) Date: Mon, 3 May 2021 08:14:09 -0700 Subject: [grc] Media Alliance referenced In-Reply-To: References: <0F899AD8-500A-4C49-A00E-0F40EDA6AB20@gmail.com> Message-ID: New Caitlin Johnstone on the subject. https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2021/05/03/silicon-valley-algorithm-manipulation-is-the-only-thing-keeping-mainstream-media-alive/ On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 11:18 PM Ann Garrison via grc wrote: > Many interesting points, Tracy, which I consider worthy of discussion on > this list. > > I'll quarrel with only one for the moment. Practice puts constant pressure > on the language, and "internet censorship" is now common parlance for > search engines and social media platforms erasure of content, whether with > algorithms, low wage labor, or decisions made at a higher organizational > level. > > On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 10:30 PM Tracy Rosenberg via grc < > grc at maillist.peak.org> wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > I'm sorry this landed on this list, and it appears to have been an error > by > > the OP, which I'll mention below. But since my name was dragged here w/o > my > > permission, let me clarify a few things. > > > > 1) What is commonly known as "terfing" or gender pronoun disrespect > isn't > > okay and it isn't about that righwing canard "political correctness". It > is > > about letting people tell their own stories about themselves and > respecting > > others > > as being as fully human as oneself and not refracting their ideas about > > themselves through a self-centered perspective about how it makes "you" > > feel. It is new for many of us. I have mis-gendered people. And in so > > doing, I have > > learned a lot about why I was doing that and why I needed to stop. > Progress > > is hard. But it is when we stop trying that we commit sins against fellow > > human beings. There is no excuse for not recognizing anyone's chosen > gender > > identity and no excuse for whining about it or dismissing it. > > > > 2) Media Alliance does not send our organizational bulletins to the GRC > > list, just like no one else does. Riva is mistaken in her claim that > Media > > Alliance sent the circuit breaker petition to GRC. We did not. Riva > > receives our email bulletins because she is subscribed to our mailing > list > > and if she does not want to be, there is a little button called > unsubscribe > > at the bottom of each one. It is possible a member of GRC forwarded the > > petition here. I dunno. If so, that was their choice. But I expect that > the > > original poster just got confused by their email inbox. > > > > 3) The ensuing conversation is confused on several counts. To start with, > > social media is not the same thing as email. "The Internet" is not the > same > > thing as social media, nor is it the same thing as email. No one is > > censored on "the Internet". For the price of a domain name, anyone can > set > > up a free website and say whatever they want. When people talk about > > "censorship", what they mean is traffic to their site or their content, > > which is a different matter. Free speech is not the same thing as a > > guaranteed audience size. > > > > 4) With regard to Spencer's post. Demand Progress are friends of mine, as > > are some others that have been using this talking point in their > > fundraising emails, like Common Dreams. It stems from a righwing talking > > point used at a Congressional hearing when a Republican started yelling > > about how his brother's campaign emails ended up in his spam folder and > > used it as proof that Google is biased against Republicans. Most of us > made > > fun of it for a long time > > afterwards and I can't tell you how distressed I am to see progressives > > picking up a dumb rightwing talking point. As Pichai explained, and I > will > > repeat, spam filters on email accounts like Gmail are a) popular with > users > > and b) based on a long list of technical factors related to bulk emailing > > that include how fast unsubscribes and bounces are tended to, the number > of > > bad email addresses, the frequency of emails sent, the open rates, the > SPC > > setting on the sender email address, the number of spam complaints > received > > and so on. While of course, these formulas could be more transparent, > they > > aren't unknown and that is why digital directors are a job category. With > > political emails, because I got all of them (Sanders, Warren, Trump, > Biden, > > Buttigieg, Klobuchar, Yang, Gabbard et al), I can personally testify that > > for all of them, some made it to my inbox and some ended up in spam. My > > recollection is that Trump was fairly adept at avoiding the spam box and > so > > was Sanders later in his campaign, but not earlier. Warren did not have > top > > knotch digital staff. The answer to what emails end up in spam is a tech > > question, not a political question and it isn't helpful to pretend > > otherwise. For those groups sending fundraising letters, well the > accuracy > > of fundraising letters leaves a lot to be desired. It is a good idea not > to > > pretend a donate email is a meaningful political analysis. It's a hook to > > encourage you to donate money. > > > > 5) A circuit breaker policy on social media has been recommended by a > > number of blue ribbon experts. The idea seems to have originated with > > Rutgers law professor Ellen Goodman ( > > https://law.rutgers.edu/directory/view/1020). It is not censorship, > which > > is the prevention of content being posted. The problem of virality in > > social media is pretty much just the web 2.0 version of the old > mainstream > > media problem of "if it bleeds, it leads". Being machines, the AI that > > powers social media algorithims pretty much interprets engagement as > > popularity. So a post of blatant lies that gets 600 people correcting it > > (i.e. the sun is closer to the earth than the moon) is perceived as > > desirable content, because so many people said "fuck no, that's wrong", > > while valuable posts that don't motivate so many people to correct them > are > > seen as less popular and less desirable. It's the same thing that > happened > > when daily newspapers plastered a bloody victim of a crime picture on the > > front page and sold three times as many copies as usual because people > > reacted and they drew from that exactly all the wrong conclusions. > > Everything old is new again. > > > > So left to their own devices, repulsive social media posts are served by > > the algorithim. This is exacerbated by the fact that the right wing has > > invested in a bot ecosphere to rapidly engage and kick up the AI and > > neither progressives nor centrist democrats have anything even remotely > > equal. That is why when you get lists of the 20 most viral posts any week > > of the year from Facebook, it is all or almost all rabid right wing > > frothing at the mouth. Similarly, that is why Donald Trump had so many > > followers on Twitter. It was a bot collection for the purpose of > > supercharging his content. When people play the system, it is more than > > reasonable to play back. A circuit breaker censors nothing, but it slows > > down super-spreader content that is being manipulated for virality by > > coordinated networks for a short period of time, allowing for human > review > > before it appears in hundreds of thousands or even millions of feeds. > None > > of this impacts the original post, It remains. And none of this impacts > > progressive media because I hate to break it to you, progressive media > > content is not the superspreader content. > > > > This is apart from issues of community standards and terms of service, > > which on social media platforms are frequently applied by low wage > workers, > > often in India, who make frequent mistakes. The answer for that is more > > resources for the function, which is a hard sell for the move fast and > > break things crowd. > > > > But all a circuit breaker is, is an artificial intelligence brake, and it > > is foolish to equate that with censorship. Way too broad a brush and > > essentially a meaningless argument imho. > > > > - Tracy > > > > On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 4:34 PM Ann Garrison via grc < > grc at maillist.peak.org > > > > > wrote: > > > > > I agree that internet censorship is now such a critical media issue > that > > it > > > merits discussion on this list, so long as it remains rational rather > > than > > > vituperative. Discussion within Pacifica Radio often becomes > > vituperative > > > fast, and I wish that weren't so, but over the years I've learned it's > > best > > > to walk away once that happens. > > > > > > We produced two shows on censorship and surveillance, with particular > > > emphasis on internet censorship, for "COVID, Race, and Democracy." > Nick > > > Huntley, cybersecurity specialist and producer of "Nick?s Nerd News," a > > > show syndicated on Audioport, contributed a piece on Amazon > surveillance > > to > > > the last one. > > > > > > > > > https://covidtaskforce.pacifica.org/2021/01/25/covid-surveillance-and-big-tech-censorship-january-25-2021/ > > > > > > > > > https://covidtaskforce.pacifica.org/2021/03/02/covid-big-tech-censorship-surveillance-part-2-march-1-2021/ > > > > > > On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 3:22 PM riva enteen via grc < > > grc at maillist.peak.org> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > MA put out an email to this list supporting Silicon Valley > censorship. > > > So > > > > this is not a forum to respond to that? > > > > Frankly, I find it shocking that GRC doesn't grapple with this new, > > very > > > > controversial and potentially dangerous trend. The debate was shut > > down. > > > > I guess Adrienne agrees that we are not to talk about Silicon Valley > > > > censorship. No wonder the left is dead. > > > > > > > > On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 3:18 PM David Devereaux-Weber < > > > president at wortfm.org > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi riva, > > > > > > > > > > The GRC is an email list created for the Grassroots Radio > Conference. > > > The > > > > > purpose of the list is to discuss things about starting and > operating > > > > > community radio stations. We don't run Facebook. We don't determine > > > > > policies for Facebook. Radio stations who subscribe to this list > may > > > wish > > > > > to broadcast programs about this topic, but that is not the purpose > > of > > > > this > > > > > list. > > > > > > > > > > You seem to be passionate about the topics of interest to you. That > > is > > > > > great. But this is not the forum for that discussion. > > > > > > > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > > > David Devereaux-Weber > > > > > President, WORT Board of Directors > > > > > president at wortfm.org > > > > > (608)576-2599 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 5:08 PM riva enteen via grc < > > > > grc at maillist.peak.org> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> It was too much trouble for you to allow debate about your > "circuit > > > > >> breaker > > > > >> technology." So you think FB can censor Robert Kennedy, Jr. > because > > > he > > > > >> violates their terms of service? > > > > >> > > > > >> I think pressure and judgement about remembering a person's > pronouns > > > > >> (plural yet) when a large group is introducing themselves is a > > > > distraction > > > > >> from what we face, such as the real threat of nuclear war. And > > yes, I > > > > >> know > > > > >> I will be called transphobic, but I am proud to use the word > > feminist, > > > > >> although that apparently makes me a TERF. > > > > >> > > > > >> On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 10:04 AM Tracy Rosenberg < > > > > tracy at media-alliance.org > > > > >> > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> > You were not considerate, Riva. You said that it was too much > > > trouble > > > > >> for > > > > >> > you to observe the gender identities that people wish to be > > > recognized > > > > >> by. > > > > >> > By definition, that is rude and not considerate. You clearly > need > > to > > > > >> > rethink your position on not eradicating others. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > You also do not understand what circuit breaker technology is. > > > > Platforms > > > > >> > do not determine truth, but they do define their terms of > service, > > > > like > > > > >> any > > > > >> > other website, list serv, company, radio station or > organization. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > -Tracy > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > On Sun, May 2, 2021, 09:55 riva enteen via grc < > > > grc at maillist.peak.org > > > > > > > > > >> > wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > >> >> I am glad to be considerate, butI think controversial issues > must > > > be > > > > >> >> addressed in a principled manner. MA seemed to shut down any > > > debate > > > > >> about > > > > >> >> Silicon Valley determining truth and I think Tracy's response > > with > > > > >> circuit > > > > >> >> breaker begs the question. > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 9:47 AM kenya lewis < > kenyalewis at gmail.com > > > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > Riva, > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > What ?stablished? this poorly edited set of personal > > observations > > > > and > > > > >> >> > grudges is broadly relevant to this GRC list (or as part of > > a/the > > > > >> black > > > > >> >> > agenda)? > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > Is it possible to be considerate of each other and use this > > > > listserv > > > > >> to > > > > >> >> > cooperate? > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > Kenya > > > > >> >> _______________________________________________ > > > > >> >> grc mailing list > > > > >> >> grc at maillist.peak.org > > > > >> >> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > > >> grc mailing list > > > > >> grc at maillist.peak.org > > > > >> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > grc mailing list > > > > grc at maillist.peak.org > > > > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Sincerely, > > > @AnnGarrison > > > Independent Journalist, > > > SKYPE: Ann Garrison, Oakland > > > 415-503-7487 > > > _______________________________________________ > > > grc mailing list > > > grc at maillist.peak.org > > > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > > > > > > > > > -- > > Tracy Rosenberg > > Executive Director > > Media Alliance > > 2830 20th Street Suite 201 > > San Francisco, CA 94110 > > www.media-alliance.org > > 415-746-9475 > > 510-684-6853 Cell > > Encrypted email at tracy.rosenberg at protonmail.com > > Text via Signal > > > > - > > _______________________________________________ > > grc mailing list > > grc at maillist.peak.org > > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > > > > > -- > Sincerely, > @AnnGarrison > Independent Journalist, > SKYPE: Ann Garrison, Oakland > 415-503-7487 > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > From sirius at pacifica.org Thu May 6 08:41:49 2021 From: sirius at pacifica.org (Sirius_Pacifica_Org) Date: Thu, 6 May 2021 11:41:49 -0400 Subject: [grc] KPFK - Pacifica is seeking to fill its General Manager position in Los Angeles. Message-ID: Hi All, KPFK - Pacifica is seeking to fill its General Manager position in Los Angeles. General Manager application deadline -- 6/1/2021 Please send replies to gmsc.kpfk at pacifica.org thank you Jon --------------------------------------------------------------- Jon Almeleh Director of Engineering and Compliance Pacifica Foundation, Inc. 973-710-8173 Title: General Manager Department: KPFK ? Radio Station Location: Los Angeles, CA Employment Type: Full-Time FLSA Exemption Status: Exempt ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ABOUT PACIFICA FOUNDATION The Pacifica Foundation is a non-profit agency providing educational services. Mission: https://www.pacifica.org/about_mission.php The Pacifica Foundation is an EQUAL OPPORTUNITY EMPLOYER. Pacifica Foundation does not discriminate on the basis of race, color, ancestry, religious creed, national origin, ethnicity, gender, age, marital status, disability, medical condition, or sexual orientation. Women and minorities are encouraged to apply. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SUMMARY: KPFK Radio, 90.7 FM Los Angeles, seeks a General Manager with a proven track record of collaborative leadership and vision to provide innovative, high-quality, free speech community-based non-commercial radio to a diverse audience in a major media market. KPFK is licensed to the Pacifica Foundation Inc., founded in 1946 as a non-profit mission-driven democratic media institution. KPFK was established in 1959 as the second listener-supported radio station in the Pacifica network. Historically, Pacifica invented listener-sponsored broadcasting. Pacifica is dedicated to education, free speech, peace, social justice, and cross-cultural understanding. Pacifica national and local boards include elected delegates of listener and staff members. For details, see https://pacifica.org/about_mission.php. KPFK is the strongest FM signal west of the Mississippi, broadcasting at 112,000 watts of power, serving most of Southern California from Santa Barbara to San Diego, webcasting at KPFK.org, with an eclectic mix of public affairs, talk, news, culture, music, and health and spirituality content, including some Spanish language programming. The successful candidate will demonstrate the capacity to build the station's audience, financial support, and vital role in public discourse, working with paid and volunteer staff, other volunteers, trainees, and democratic governance, to develop effective community engagement using terrestrial broadcasting along with a significant web presence, social media, podcasting, and multimedia production. Reports To: Pacifica Foundation Executive Director Collaborates With: Local Station Board JOB SPECIFICATIONS Duties, Tasks, and Responsibilities: The GM is hired and supervised by the Executive Director (ED) of Pacifica following a search process by the elected KPFK Local Station Board (LSB). This is a full-time exempt management position. The GM works with the KPFK LSB and Pacifica's ED in implementing the Pacifica Mission, and is subject to an annual evaluation by the LSB. The General Manager is responsible and accountable for overall management and all station operations including programming; finance; budgeting; compliance with all necessary local, state, and Federal laws and regulations, especially FCC compliance; technical operations; facilities management; long-term planning; fund-raising; web and social media presence; public relations; and personnel, supervising a staff of more than 20 FTE employees and more than 230 volunteer staff members. Working with the paid and volunteer staff and a management team, the Local Station Board, and the community, the General Manager is responsible for monitoring and guiding the station. KPFK GM - Job Description General Manager - Pacifica Radio Financial Accountability and Responsibilities ? Maintain the fiscal integrity of the station through improving gross and net income, listenership and membership, other fundraising activities, prudent budget management, timely reporting, and compliance with Pacifica National Board and Pacifica National Office policies and practices. ? Supervise preparation of a strategic annual balanced budget for the station, in collaboration with the LSB Finance Committee, Business Manager, Pacifica's Chief Financial Officer (CFO) and ED; obtain LSB budget approval, then National Finance Committee (NFC) and Pacifica National Board (PNB) approval. This includes working to rebuild financial reserves over time. The budgeting process includes proposing appropriate levels of staffing and the amount and schedule of time spent fund-raising on-air. ? Administer the budget throughout the year, facilitating and responding to quarterly LSB review, assuring that there are complete, timely, accurate records for the annual audit. ? Provide regular monthly reports on revenue and expenditures for oversight by the local Finance Committee, LSB, and the National Office. General Operations/Physical Plant ? Oversee optimal transmitter function and compliance with all necessary local, state and Federal laws and regulations; oversee maintenance of all KPFK re-transmission and booster equipment throughout the region. ? Supervise physical plant maintenance in conjunction with the Chief Engineer and/or Operations Manager in compliance with all necessary local, state and Federal laws and regulations. ? Coordinate with the Pacifica National Office and Pacifica Radio Archives, both housed in the KPFK building owned by the Pacifica Foundation. Programming ? Select a Program Director from a pool of candidates presented by the LSB. ? Ensure that program content complies with all State and Federal laws and regulations as well as Pacifica programming policies and requirements, and that, by meeting community needs, it enhances KPFK's audience, impact, and reputation. ? Establish, maintain, and review programming goals and services in line with the Pacifica Mission; oversee a regular process of evaluation and improvement. ? Oversee technical broadcast operations, and program content, delivery, format, production values, and schedule. ? Supervise the PD and communicate programming goals and initiatives to the staff, LSB and listeners. Personnel/Trade Union ? Supervise all station staff, both paid (20+) and volunteer (200+); maintain accurate records of all staff and their current contact information. ? Attend trade union contract negotiations, handle grievance process, and manage union employees. ? Follow all Pacifica procedures and state and Federal laws, regarding employment processing, recruitment and selection, hiring, termination, and other personnel actions; ensure compliance with the Pacifica Foundation employment handbook and union contracts. ? Ensure that public safety measures are in place at the station for paid and volunteer staff, members of the general public, and visitors. ? Report to the PNB quarterly or upon request on the status of diversity of station staffing, programming and audience (data permitting) within the radio station areas. FCC, CPB, EEO, AG Reports ? Ensure complete and timely compliance with all necessary public file reports, annual CPB Station Activity Surveys, FCC license renewal applications, EEO mandates, charity registration with the CA Attorney General, OSHA regulations, and/or other necessary local, State and Federal filings. Community Relations ? Broadcast monthly reports to the listeners with at least half the scheduled time allotted for listener call-ins; schedule a similar report from governance, as required by Pacifica policy. ? Represent the station and Pacifica at public forums; handle media relations for the station. ? Engage in broad community outreach and audience development. ? Maintain publication of appropriate station and network information, including those required by law (e.g., EEO) or by policy. Development ? Lead collaborative process to develop effective strategic plans for fund-raising on- and off-air, and supervise their implementation. ? Meet with donors. ? Collaborate with national fund-raising efforts. Internet ? Oversee development and maintenance of KPFK's Web services and social media engagement. Training ? Oversee training of paid and volunteer staff in regard to policies, operations, program quality, vocal quality, fund- raising, community engagement, and audience development. Governance ? Serve as a non-voting ex-officio member of the Local Station Board, actively participate in all LSB meetings; report to the LSB in person and in writing at all monthly LSB meetings and as necessary. ? Work with the Local Elections Supervisor (LES) to implement all Pacifica governance election procedures and policies, including outreach to and education of listener-sponsors; maintain accurate, up-to-date records of the station's two classes of members (listener-sponsors and staff) as required by the CA Corporations Code; and provide adequate station resources to help ensure the election meets quorum. ? Attend Pacifica National Board meetings four times a year or upon request. Other duties as assigned. Job descriptions are subject to change without notice based on the needs of the station and foundation. Successful Candidates must demonstrate the following: Understanding of and commitment to the Pacifica Mission. Bachelor's Degree or commensurate experience in related field. Five years of management experience in radio or related media required, non-commercial radio preferred. Candidate shall possess excellent management skills and a proven ability to work collaboratively with paid and volunteer staff and governance, to prioritize and to delegate responsibilities appropriately and effectively. Candidate shall possess strong interpersonal and communications skills and the ability to lead and motivate staff and volunteers. Candidate must be committed to creating a diverse workplace and serving the needs of a diverse audience. Fund- raising experience required. Bilingual English-Spanish desirable. Physical Abilities: Ability to lift up to 30 lbs., approximately three (3) times per week. Must be able to navigate stairs multiple times during each work shift. Mental Abilities: Ability to think clearly and manage multiple changing priorities, and remain pleasant and positive. Requires critical thinking and ability to support people with difficult challenges. Requires good judgment. Requirements: Employment is contingent upon proof of eligibility to work in the U.S., 21 years of age or older, verification of degree/credentials, satisfactory Background Check, agreeing to uphold all of the Pacifica Foundation Policies and Procedures, Confidentiality Agreement, Policy on Outside Employment, Policy on Prohibiting/Preventing Workplace Violence, Policy to Prohibit Harassment in the Workplace, Policy on Ethics, adhering to Drug-Free Workplace Policy, compliance with Workplace Injury and Illness Prevention Policies, and compliance with HIPAA Rules and Regulations, (by signature). Compensation: $70-80,000 per annum, DOE: Full Benefits package including Medical, Dental, Vision, Life, and Disability as well as 403b Retirement Plan with Employer match. The Pacifica Foundation is an Equal Opportunity Employer, and does not discriminate on the basis of race, nationality, gender, age, disability, or sexuality. To apply, please send a resume and cover letter to: gmsc.kpfk at pacifica.org or by postal mail to: KPFK GM Search Pacifica Foundation National Office Attention: Michael Novick, LSB & Search Committee Chair 3729 Cahuenga Boulevard West Studio City CA 91604-3504 You will receive an electronic confirmation of the receipt of your application. The Pacifica Foundation and KPFK are Equal Opportunity Employers From mike at brownbroadcast.com Sat May 8 22:18:01 2021 From: mike at brownbroadcast.com (Michael D. Brown) Date: Sat, 8 May 2021 22:18:01 -0700 Subject: [grc] Radio for People Zoom Conference Call - Tuesday May 11 11AM PDT / 2PM EDT Message-ID: <001101d74492$aeff4d40$0cfde7c0$@brownbroadcast.com> You?re invited to join the Radio for People Zoom Conference Call, Tuesday May 11, 11AM PDT / 2PM EDT Same Zoom link as last month. For security, the link is not posted publicly. If you need a link to the meeting, please email: betty at c-map.org Tentative Agenda: --FCC Announces Filing Window for new Reserved-Band NCE stations --Outreach for the Window --FCC Updates (including applications and grants) --Station Updates --GRC conference planning --Other conferences and training --anything else? Michael D. Brown Brown Broadcast Services, Inc. 3740 SW Comus St. ? Portland OR 97219-7418 USA mike at brownbroadcast.com ? www.brownbroadcast.com offc 503-245-6065 ? cell 503-703-3202 From charlie.knower at gmail.com Sun May 9 10:07:46 2021 From: charlie.knower at gmail.com (Charlie Knower) Date: Sun, 9 May 2021 12:07:46 -0500 Subject: [grc] Heartland Stories Radio this Week Message-ID: HEARTLAND STORIES:MACKENZIE FELDMAN, FOUNDER OF HERBICIDE-FREE CAMPUS. Series: Title: Sub-title: Heartland Stories Mackenzie Feldman, Founder of Herbicide-Free Campus. Producer: Program type: Broadcast Restrictions: Charlie Knower Weekly Program For non-profit use only. Summary: Featured speakers/guests: In this special Mothers Day episode Theresa chats with Mackenzie Feldman, Founder and Executive Director ofHerbicide Free Campus, an organization that supports student groups who want to eliminate synthetic herbicide use on their campuses. Mackenzies activism was inspired while growing up in Hawaii witnessing and being part of the fight against GMO food. Listen to her incredible story, her passionate work, how COVID-19 is changing her organizations work, the witnessing of theLee Johnsontrial and much more. This movement is about a cultural shift in the way we manage landscapes and tend to the soil. For the sake of future, generations we must do better. Mackenzie Feldman Mackenzie Feldman Notes: Credits: Heartland Radio: Cultivating Change. Brought to you by the people that produced Rootstock Radio, Heartland Stories is a weekly 29-minute radio show that is also available as a podcast, sponsored initially by the Heartland Study, a non profit research project dedicated to protecting the health of pregnant women and their babies. Each show engages listeners on the issues and challenges in food, farming and global health. While the team is in the Heartland, where much food is produced, our issues and interviews are with change makers, influentials and everyday people from all over the globe. We present solid information about what we all can do together to assure a healthy and just food system for the 21st century. Episodes are available on Audioport. Search for Heartland Stories or follow this link: http://audioport.org/index.php?op=series&series=Heartland+Stories Or on our Podcast page: https://heartlandstories.libsyn.com/ Theresa Marquez, host. Topics Organic Farming | Children and Reproductive Health | Food and Nutrition | Mothers Edit Version | Add Files | Delete Version/Files VERSION 1: Total Length (HH:MM:SS) Description Uploaded 00:29:00 05-09-21 12:06 Transcript, Announcer Script Location Recorded Release Date Language View Script Viroqua WI 05-09-2021 English # Segment Length Label File Info Download Stats 1 00:29:00 heartlandstories050921 128Kbps mp3 (26.56MB) Stereo [image: Download] 0 -- Charlie Knower 608.620.8785 Cell charlie.knower at gmail.com From gm at artxfm.com Mon May 10 07:11:26 2021 From: gm at artxfm.com (Sharon Scott) Date: Mon, 10 May 2021 10:11:26 -0400 Subject: [grc] Fwd: 5/10 at 8pm ET -- GRC Monthly Meet-up In-Reply-To: References: <3E2FA559-854E-4112-A0F3-9009FE318706@artxfm.com> <153C5F53-82B9-42B0-9F24-0A685E68080A@artxfm.com> Message-ID: <767dd6178bdedc652289c1f2dc29abcd@artxfm.com> TONIGHT!!!! HOPE TO SEE YOU THERE!!!! -------- Original Message -------- Subject: 5/10 at 8pm ET -- GRC Monthly Meet-up Date: 2021-05-07 12:43 From: Mary Yates To: ladyjam at artxfm.com Hello Community! The GRC Monthly Met-up will take place Monday, May 10th at 8pm ET. This month we will focus on identifying the host station for the 2021 GRC as well as begin collecting names for the GRC Directory. Please come with any topics you wish to discuss. This is a less formal session so there will be plenty of time for some sharing and great grassroots radio conversation! Looking forward to seeing all your lovely faces! xox, Mary ART FM is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting. Topic: GRC Monthly Meet-Up Time: May 10, 2021 08:00 PM Please download and import the following iCalendar (.ics) files to your calendar system. *This calendar is a series scheduled through November, 2021. * Monthly: https://us02web.zoom.us/meeting/tZwvce-pqzktGdRXTXV70Y2Th-kkFfgOhoJ3/ics?icsToken=98tyKuGgrD0sG9GXtxqHRpw-AI_oM-vwmHpajadvpCvdNXcDW1HCPq9JOZR5F_fY Join Zoom Meeting https://us02web.zoom.us/j/88266152730?pwd=d2lmQ3VpM3IwTXNPRno3ZkcxWmVKdz09 Meeting ID: 882 6615 2730 Passcode: 327027 One tap mobile +13017158592,,88266152730#,,,,327027# US (Washington DC) +13126266799,,88266152730#,,,,327027# US (Chicago) Dial by your location +1 301 715 8592 US (Washington DC) +1 312 626 6799 US (Chicago) +1 646 558 8656 US (New York) +1 253 215 8782 US (Tacoma) +1 346 248 7799 US (Houston) +1 669 900 9128 US (San Jose) Meeting ID: 882 6615 2730 Passcode: 327027Find your local number: https://us02web.zoom.us/u/kw8cl9nvOxox, Lady Jam Turn up the Juice every Friday from 3-5pm on 97.1 WXOX Louisville, or stream live at www.artxfm.com [1] Links: ------ [1] http://www.artxfm.com From mike at brownbroadcast.com Mon May 10 23:59:53 2021 From: mike at brownbroadcast.com (Michael D. Brown) Date: Mon, 10 May 2021 23:59:53 -0700 Subject: [grc] Radio for People Zoom Conference Call, Today (Tuesday) May 11 Message-ID: <005401d74633$3ea5ab00$bbf10100$@brownbroadcast.com> You?re invited to join the Radio for People Zoom Conference Call, Today (Tuesday) May 11, 11AM PDT / 2PM EDT Same Zoom link as last month. For security, the link is not posted publicly. If you need a link to the meeting, please email: betty at c-map.org Tentative Agenda: --FCC Announces Filing Window for new Reserved-Band NCE stations --Outreach for the Window --FCC Updates (including applications and grants) --Station Updates --GRC conference planning --Other conferences and training --Silicon Valley censorship - follow-up discussion --anything else? Michael D. Brown Brown Broadcast Services, Inc. 3740 SW Comus St. ? Portland OR 97219-7418 USA mike at brownbroadcast.com ? www.brownbroadcast.com offc 503-245-6065 ? cell 503-703-3202 From frieda.werden at gmail.com Fri May 14 16:54:57 2021 From: frieda.werden at gmail.com (Frieda Werden) Date: Fri, 14 May 2021 16:54:57 -0700 Subject: [grc] New Audacity file format news Message-ID: Basically, they have changed the .aup files so that they can't accidentally get split up and corrupt your project. https://www.makeuseof.com/audacity-3-release-new-file-format/ -- Frieda Werden, Series Producer WINGS: Women's International News Gathering Service email: wings at wings.org and wingsradionews at gmail.com Facebook news feed: https://www.facebook.com/wingsradio To contribute funds: https://www.paypal.me/wingsradio websites: www.wings.org (historic) New site being rebuilt at: wingsradio.org/wordpress Older editions gradually being archived on archive.org From wings at wings.org Fri May 14 16:55:45 2021 From: wings at wings.org (Frieda Werden) Date: Fri, 14 May 2021 16:55:45 -0700 Subject: [grc] New Audacity file format news In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Basically, they have changed the .aup files so that they can't accidentally get split up and corrupt your project. https://www.makeuseof.com/audacity-3-release-new-file-format/ -- Frieda Werden, Series Producer WINGS: Women's International News Gathering Service email: wings at wings.org and wingsradionews at gmail.com Facebook news feed: https://www.facebook.com/wingsradio To contribute funds: https://www.paypal.me/wingsradio websites: www.wings.org (historic) New site being rebuilt at: wingsradio.org/wordpress Older editions gradually being archived on archive.org From ad253 at freeelectron.net Fri May 14 18:44:29 2021 From: ad253 at freeelectron.net (al davis) Date: Fri, 14 May 2021 21:44:29 -0400 Subject: [grc] =?utf-8?q?Fwd=3A_Google=E2=80=99s_attack_on_progressives?= In-Reply-To: References: <249d16-6d09-6089847a@list.demandprogress.org> Message-ID: <20210514214429.32e85925@z> On Sun, 2 May 2021 17:32:23 -0500 using a Mac Spencer Graves via grc wrote: > Google is messing with your inbox, and it?s threatening our work. You finally noticed! In fairness, it's not just Google. It's Yahoo, Microsoft, Amazon, hotmail, Zoom, Facebook, Apple, and many others. We all need to remember that the choice of what products and services to use, buy, and recommend always has a social and political impact. What that impact is may not be obvious at first look. You may hear or read in the news about some big company and their political connections, and be tempted to switch to their biggest competitor, not realizing that the other big company may be even worse. In this case, it is more innocent than it appears to be, in one way, more scary than it appears to be, in another. The "messing with your inbox" that you see is just badly designed spam filtering run amok. Spam filtering is crazy, complex, and political. People demand it, then complain when it doesn't work perfectly. In this case, that's all it is. I really don't think Google is prejudiced against Bernie. If big tech is prejudiced against anything, it's *us*. Blurring the specifics, most of what Spencer's forwarded email says is true, and important. I say most, because demandprogress.org is a bit hypocritical. I would have more confidence if they used something other than Google for their email. If you don't like Google (or any other company that's part of big tech), don't use it. Maybe run your own mail server. Maybe find a provider that is friendly to the cause. Maybe grassroots radio should support grassroots tech. Maybe we should savor home grown tech like we do home grown food, and home grown media. Where you buy your tech is as political as where you buy your food. If you do like big tech, and choose to use it or even promote it, that's your choice, but please realize the politics of your choice. To David D-W ..... This is on topic for this list. This is a radio issue. The list is not just about programming. From charlie.knower at gmail.com Sun May 16 09:03:35 2021 From: charlie.knower at gmail.com (Charlie Knower) Date: Sun, 16 May 2021 11:03:35 -0500 Subject: [grc] Heartland Stories Radio This Week Message-ID: HEARTLAND STORIES:TOM FRANTZEN, THE LIFE OF AN IOWA ORGANIC FARMER. Series: Title: Sub-title: Heartland Stories Tom Frantzen, The life of an Iowa Organic Farmer. Producer: Program type: Broadcast Restrictions: Charlie Knower Weekly Program For non-profit use only. Summary: Featured speakers/guests: This week Theresa interviews Tom Frantzen. Tom and his wife Irene run a diversified organic farm where they raise organic hogs, cattle, corn, soybeans, hay and small grains. Tom Frantzen Notes: Credits: Heartland Radio: Cultivating Change. Brought to you by the people that produced Rootstock Radio, Heartland Stories is a weekly 29-minute radio show that is also available as a podcast, sponsored initially by the Heartland Study, a non profit research project dedicated to protecting the health of pregnant women and their babies. Each show engages listeners on the issues and challenges in food, farming and global health. While the team is in the Heartland, where much food is produced, our issues and interviews are with change makers, influentials and everyday people from all over the globe. We present solid information about what we all can do together to assure a healthy and just food system for the 21st century. Episodes are available on Audioport. Search for Heartland Stories or follow this link: http://audioport.org/index.php?op=series&series=Heartland+Stories Or on our Podcast page: https://heartlandstories.libsyn.com/ Host, Theresa Marquez Topics Family Farm | Organic Farming Edit Version | Add Files | Delete Version/Files VERSION 1: Total Length (HH:MM:SS) Description Uploaded 00:29:00 05-16-21 11:02 Transcript, Announcer Script Location Recorded Release Date Language View Script Viroqua, WI 05-16-2021 English # Segment Length Label File Info Download Stats 1 00:29:00 heartlandstories05162021 192Kbps mp3 (39.84MB) Stereo [image: Download] 0 -- Charlie Knower 608.620.8785 Cell charlie.knower at gmail.com From charlie.knower at gmail.com Sun May 23 06:22:37 2021 From: charlie.knower at gmail.com (Charlie Knower) Date: Sun, 23 May 2021 08:22:37 -0500 Subject: [grc] Heartland Radio Stories this week Message-ID: HEARTLAND STORIES:MARIA RODALE, FORMER CHAIRPERSON OF RODALE, INC. Series: Title: Sub-title: Heartland Stories Maria Rodale, Former Chairperson of Rodale, Inc. Producer: Program type: Broadcast Restrictions: Charlie Knower Weekly Program For non-profit use only. Summary: Featured speakers/guests: This week Theresa talks with Maria Rodale the former chairperson and chief executive officer of Rodale Inc., the global health and wellness content company which created the iconic brandsMens Health,Womens Health,Runners World,Bicycling,Prevention, andRodales Organic Life. Rodale Inc. has also published hundreds of books on health, fitness, food, and the environment, including Al GoresAn Inconvenient Truth(and)Sequel, Howard SchultzsOnward,andThe South Beach Diet. Maria has authored numerous books, including 2010sOrganic Manifesto. In 2016 she releasedScratch, a cookbook based on her former blog,Marias Farm Country Kitchen. Maria Rodale Notes: Credits: Heartland Stories Radio: Cultivating Change. Brought to you by the people that produced Rootstock Radio, Heartland Stories is a weekly 29-minute radio show that is also available as a podcast, sponsored initially by the Heartland Study, a non profit research project dedicated to protecting the health of pregnant women and their babies. Each show engages listeners on the issues and challenges in food, farming and global health. While the team is in the Heartland, where much food is produced, our issues and interviews are with change makers, influentials and everyday people from all over the globe. We present solid information about what we all can do together to assure a healthy and just food system for the 21st century. Episodes are available on Audioport. Search for Heartland Stories or follow this link: http://audioport.org/index.php?op=series&series=Heartland+Stories Or on our Podcast page: https://heartlandstories.libsyn.com/ Host, Theresa Marquez Topics Family Farm | Organic Farming | Food and Nutrition Edit Version | Add Files | Delete Version/Files VERSION 1: Total Length (HH:MM:SS) Description Uploaded 00:29:00 05-23-21 08:21 Transcript, Announcer Script Location Recorded Release Date Language View Script Viroqua, WI 05-23-2021 English # Segment Length Label File Info Download Stats 1 00:29:00 heartlandstories05232021 192Kbps mp3 (39.84MB) Stereo [image: Download] 0 -- Charlie Knower, Producer 608.620.8785 Cell charlie.knower at gmail.com From sirius at pacifica.org Mon May 24 09:25:54 2021 From: sirius at pacifica.org (Sirius_Pacifica_Org) Date: Mon, 24 May 2021 12:25:54 -0400 Subject: [grc] KPFA - Pacifica is seeking to fill the UpFront producer position in Berkeley, California. The UpFront Producer Position application deadline is 6/15/2021 P Message-ID: HI All, KPFA - Pacifica is seeking to fill the UpFront producer position in Berkeley, California. The UpFront Producer Position application deadline is 6/15/2021 Applicant responses should be sent to producer-job at kpfa.org thanks, Jon --------------------------------------------------------------- Jon Almeleh Director of Engineering and Compliance Pacifica Foundation, Inc. 973-710-8173 From duncan at kxci.org Mon May 24 11:58:45 2021 From: duncan at kxci.org (Duncan Hudson) Date: Mon, 24 May 2021 11:58:45 -0700 Subject: [grc] KXCI - Community Radio in Tucson, AZ - is searching for an Executive Director Message-ID: Hello All, KXCI - Community Radio in Tucson, AZ - is searching for an Executive Director. Here are a links to the position- https://kxci.org/employment-at-kxci/ https://www.indeed.com/job/executive-director-ce2f67b24c7eba84 Also, if anyone has suggestions of other radio related organizations or areas that I can reach out to about posting the position, that would be appreciated. This is my first time posting to the GRC Listserv, so let me know if I have not followed protocol. Thanks, Duncan - Duncan Hudson MD KXCI-FM 220 S. 4th Ave. Tucson, AZ 85701 520.623.1000 ext16 duncan at kxci.org http://www.kxci.org From charlie.knower at gmail.com Sun May 30 08:45:56 2021 From: charlie.knower at gmail.com (Charlie Knower) Date: Sun, 30 May 2021 10:45:56 -0500 Subject: [grc] Heartland Stories Radio this week Message-ID: HEARTLAND STORIES:HOW ORGANIC CERTIFICATION WORKS Series: Title: Sub-title: Heartland Stories How Organic Certification Works Producer: Program type: Broadcast Restrictions: Charlie Knower Weekly Program For non-profit use only. Summary: Featured speakers/guests: This week Theresa speaks with Cori Skolaski, Executive Director Of MOSA Certified Organic. MOSA provides USDA-accredited organic certification services for farmers, processors, distributors, restaurants and retailers. Cori Skolaski, Executive Director Of MOSA Certified Organic Notes: Credits: Heartland Stories Radio: Cultivating Change. Brought to you by the people that produced Rootstock Radio, Heartland Stories is a weekly 29-minute radio show that is also available as a podcast, sponsored initially by the Heartland Study, a non profit research project dedicated to protecting the health of pregnant women and their babies. Each show engages listeners on the issues and challenges in food, farming and global health. While the team is in the Heartland, where much food is produced, our issues and interviews are with change makers, influentials and everyday people from all over the globe. We present solid information about what we all can do together to assure a healthy and just food system for the 21st century. Episodes are available on Audioport. Search for Heartland Stories or follow this link: http://audioport.org/index.php?op=series&series=Heartland+Stories Or on our Podcast page: https://heartlandstories.libsyn.com/ Host, Theresa Marquez Topics Organic Farming Edit Version | Add Files | Delete Version/Files VERSION 1: Total Length (HH:MM:SS) Description Uploaded 00:29:00 05-30-21 10:44 Transcript, Announcer Script Location Recorded Release Date Language View Script Viroqua, WI 05-30-2021 English # Segment Length Label File Info Download Stats 1 00:29:00 heartlandstories05302021 192Kbps mp3 (39.84MB) Stereo [image: Download] 0 -- Charlie Knower 608.620.8785 Cell charlie.knower at gmail.com