[grc] Media Alliance referenced

Ann Garrison anniegarrison at gmail.com
Sun May 2 16:34:32 PDT 2021


I agree that internet censorship is now such a critical media issue that it
merits discussion on this list, so long as it remains rational rather than
vituperative.  Discussion within Pacifica Radio often becomes vituperative
fast, and I wish that weren't so, but over the years I've learned it's best
to walk away once that happens.

We produced two shows on censorship and surveillance, with particular
emphasis on internet censorship, for "COVID, Race, and Democracy."  Nick
Huntley, cybersecurity specialist and producer of "Nick’s Nerd News," a
show syndicated on Audioport, contributed a piece on Amazon surveillance to
the last one.
https://covidtaskforce.pacifica.org/2021/01/25/covid-surveillance-and-big-tech-censorship-january-25-2021/
https://covidtaskforce.pacifica.org/2021/03/02/covid-big-tech-censorship-surveillance-part-2-march-1-2021/

On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 3:22 PM riva enteen via grc <grc at maillist.peak.org>
wrote:

> MA put out an email to this list supporting Silicon Valley censorship.  So
> this is not a forum to respond to that?
> Frankly, I find it shocking that GRC doesn't grapple with this new, very
> controversial and potentially dangerous trend.  The debate was shut down.
> I guess Adrienne agrees that we are not to talk about Silicon Valley
> censorship.  No wonder the left is dead.
>
> On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 3:18 PM David Devereaux-Weber <president at wortfm.org
> >
> wrote:
>
> > Hi riva,
> >
> > The GRC is an email list created for the Grassroots Radio Conference. The
> > purpose of the list is to discuss things about starting and operating
> > community radio stations. We don't run Facebook. We don't determine
> > policies for Facebook. Radio stations who subscribe to this list may wish
> > to broadcast programs about this topic, but that is not the purpose of
> this
> > list.
> >
> > You seem to be passionate about the topics of interest to you. That is
> > great. But this is not the forum for that discussion.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > David Devereaux-Weber
> > President, WORT Board of Directors
> > president at wortfm.org <President at wortfm.org>
> > (608)576-2599
> >
> >
> > On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 5:08 PM riva enteen via grc <
> grc at maillist.peak.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> It was too much trouble for you to allow debate about your "circuit
> >> breaker
> >> technology."  So you think FB can censor Robert Kennedy, Jr. because he
> >> violates their terms of service?
> >>
> >> I think pressure and judgement about remembering a person's pronouns
> >> (plural yet) when a large group is introducing themselves is a
> distraction
> >> from what we face, such as the real threat of nuclear war.  And yes, I
> >> know
> >> I will be called transphobic, but I am proud to use the word feminist,
> >> although that apparently makes me a TERF.
> >>
> >> On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 10:04 AM Tracy Rosenberg <
> tracy at media-alliance.org
> >> >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > You were not considerate, Riva. You said that it was too much trouble
> >> for
> >> > you to observe the gender identities that people wish to be recognized
> >> by.
> >> > By definition, that is rude and not considerate. You clearly need to
> >> > rethink your position on not eradicating others.
> >> >
> >> > You also do not understand what circuit breaker technology is.
> Platforms
> >> > do not determine truth, but they do define their terms of service,
> like
> >> any
> >> > other website, list serv, company, radio station or organization.
> >> >
> >> > -Tracy
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Sun, May 2, 2021, 09:55 riva enteen via grc <grc at maillist.peak.org
> >
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I am glad to be considerate, butI think controversial issues must be
> >> >> addressed in a principled manner.  MA seemed to shut down any debate
> >> about
> >> >> Silicon Valley determining truth and I think Tracy's response with
> >> circuit
> >> >> breaker begs the question.
> >> >>
> >> >> On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 9:47 AM kenya lewis <kenyalewis at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > Riva,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > What “stablished” this poorly edited set of personal observations
> and
> >> >> > grudges is broadly relevant to this GRC list (or as part of a/the
> >> black
> >> >> > agenda)?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Is it possible to be considerate of each other and use this
> listserv
> >> to
> >> >> > cooperate?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Kenya
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