From frieda.werden at gmail.com Tue Dec 6 20:18:35 2022 From: frieda.werden at gmail.com (Frieda Werden) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2022 20:18:35 -0800 Subject: [grc] Another Audacity question Message-ID: I used to use Leveller specifically because it would drop out anything below -20 dB level. This was extremely helpful for eliminating things like tape hiss. Only after doing that would I use noise reduction if necessary - because it only reduces the noise that is in the clear and not under words. When Leveller disappeared, I deliberately kept a version of MacOS that would still run the old Audacity, hoping to use it in emergencies for Leveller - but even though I have it installed, the old version refuses to open -apparently even if it isn't running, the newer version blocks it. There is something called Leveller in the dropdown menu under Distortion, but I am having a problem using it. It froze up on me. Does anyone have any recent experience with this function? -- Frieda Werden, Series Producer WINGS: Women's International News Gathering Service email: wings at wings.org and wingsradionews at gmail.com Facebook news feed: https://www.facebook.com/wingsradio To contribute funds: https://www.paypal.me/wingsradio websites: www.wings.org (historic) New site being rebuilt at: wingsradio.org/wordpress Older editions gradually being archived on archive.org From frieda.werden at gmail.com Tue Dec 6 22:33:48 2022 From: frieda.werden at gmail.com (Frieda Werden) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2022 22:33:48 -0800 Subject: [grc] Weird new audio editing software Message-ID: https://youtu.be/5ah0IoZCIxI It's called Trebble. It lets you edit audio from its transcription. Also has a suite of effects. Canada's national campus and community radio association has partnered with Trebble and is offering discounts for its members. They are recommending it for beginner editors. I think it likely there will be a zombie-like quality to audio edited this way - but it might be useful as a way to start cutting down longer pieces. I haven't tried it, but I might attend their demonstration workshop. It also says it lets you capture audio from your website.... -- Frieda Werden, Series Producer WINGS: Women's International News Gathering Service email: wings at wings.org and wingsradionews at gmail.com Facebook news feed: https://www.facebook.com/wingsradio To contribute funds: https://www.paypal.me/wingsradio websites: www.wings.org (historic) New site being rebuilt at: wingsradio.org/wordpress Older editions gradually being archived on archive.org From spencer.graves at effectivedefense.org Wed Dec 7 02:17:12 2022 From: spencer.graves at effectivedefense.org (Spencer Graves) Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2022 04:17:12 -0600 Subject: [grc] Weird new audio editing software In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <63c96859-4002-5e4b-2c9a-5d1894da7a8e@effectivedefense.org> Hi, Frieda et al.: I've not used Trebble. I'll be interested in the reports. I've been using I've been using computer transcription for a few years now. From that I get time stamps to the nearest second. I record where I want to cut in spreadsheet software like MS Excel, LibreOffice Calc or Google Sheet and compute the times to keep and to cut. Then I switch to Audacity to get cut points to the nearest hundredths of a second and modify the spreadsheet as I edit. An example transcript with the accompanying audio file is available at: https://otter.ai/u/7eRY0BzhugBlyu5FPXteeWdfKoc The spreadsheet edit plan I created for that transcript is at: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19h4QyJMHK2VqmD_FmAG55HcQ3e8q4Fu5zMjot9XlRf0/edit?usp=sharing The podcast I created from that is available at: https://kkfi.org/program-episodes/kc-homeless-union-and-hope-for-the-homeless-project-2/ I started using Trint but switched to Otter.ai. I need to identify the speakers, but I often only have to identify the first few times each speaker talks, because Otter.ai does moderately well at identifying subsequent orations by the same speaker -- and makes it easy for me to correct the speaker. The transcript is not good enough to publish but is good enough to use for timing, usually. Occasionally, Otter.ai gets the times out of order. It allows me to download the transcript with speakers and time in, e.g., docx format. Sadly, it sometimes incorrectly marks the times, then sorts the segments in the wrong order when I download the transcript. Then I have to manually correct that problem. Doing this may be more labor intensive than it should be. Yesterday, I recorded an interview of just over an hour and needed to cut it to 28 minutes. I ran out of time to complete my editing plan before broadcast time at 6 PM Central, so the result was 28:31 mm:ss; I had two or three more cuts I wanted to make but gave up. Otter.ai offers a free service for files that are no more than 30 minutes each up to a total of 300 minutes per month. I have a paid account for $8.33 per month, up to 90 minutes per recording and a total of 1200 minutes per month. And I sometimes use this to create a complete transcript with time stamps, e.g.: https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Social_construction_of_crime_and_what_we_can_do_about_it However, cleaning up a transcript and adding links and references like this can take another day or three. And without serious references, it's not suitable for Wikiversity. I'm willing to believe that there are better options both in terms of the transcription service and easier editing like Trebble. I've heard of a service that supports editing videos like this, but I can't remember it's name. I haven't tried it but probably should. Comments? Spencer Graves On 12/7/22 12:33 AM, Frieda Werden via grc wrote: > https://youtu.be/5ah0IoZCIxI > It's called Trebble. It lets you edit audio from its transcription. Also > has a suite of effects. Canada's national campus and community radio > association has partnered with Trebble and is offering discounts for its > members. They are recommending it for beginner editors. I think it likely > there will be a zombie-like quality to audio edited this way - but it might > be useful as a way to start cutting down longer pieces. I haven't tried > it, but I might attend their demonstration workshop. It also says it lets > you capture audio from your website.... > From wings at wings.org Wed Dec 7 12:53:19 2022 From: wings at wings.org (Frieda Werden) Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2022 12:53:19 -0800 Subject: [grc] Weird new audio editing software In-Reply-To: <63c96859-4002-5e4b-2c9a-5d1894da7a8e@effectivedefense.org> References: <63c96859-4002-5e4b-2c9a-5d1894da7a8e@effectivedefense.org> Message-ID: I just attended a Zoom demonstration session with the programmer who created Trebble, hosted by the NCRA. I think there will be a recording available and that I will be allowed to share the link. It looks potentially quite useful. If not for finalizing a show, at least for roughing it out. There are quite a few bells and whistles, all optional to use, including noise reduction/removal that may be better than what I've been able to find on Audacity. The demo went very quickly so I didn't get to savour the sound changes. This website includes a link to try it for free. Would be interested to hear from anyone who does: https://www.trebble.fm/#make-audio-editing-a-breeze Trebble lets you store drafts, undo, etc. It can record from your mic or you can upload audio. It automatically crossfades ambience when you make a delete edit (don't know if that is optional). Seems fairly inexpensive. You pay for blocks of time. Arbie Fru, a producer at the Nanaimo BC station, has started using it. When the snow melts, I may go down there (about an hour from here) and watch him work. Interestingly, the creator of the app sounds as if he is likely from Africa, though maybe living in Canada (I am not experienced enough to pick out language of origin from his accent). He said he developed the app to help a group of women who wanted to start a podcast but had no familiarity with audio editing. Frieda Werden, Series Producer WINGS: Women's International News Gathering Service www.wings.org On Wed, Dec 7, 2022 at 2:17 AM Spencer Graves via grc wrote: > Hi, Frieda et al.: > > > I've not used Trebble. I'll be interested in the reports. > > > I've been using I've been using computer transcription for a few > years now. From that I get time stamps to the nearest second. I record > where I want to cut in spreadsheet software like MS Excel, LibreOffice > Calc or Google Sheet and compute the times to keep and to cut. Then I > switch to Audacity to get cut points to the nearest hundredths of a > second and modify the spreadsheet as I edit. > > > An example transcript with the accompanying audio file is > available at: > > > https://otter.ai/u/7eRY0BzhugBlyu5FPXteeWdfKoc > > > The spreadsheet edit plan I created for that transcript is at: > > > > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19h4QyJMHK2VqmD_FmAG55HcQ3e8q4Fu5zMjot9XlRf0/edit?usp=sharing > > > The podcast I created from that is available at: > > > > https://kkfi.org/program-episodes/kc-homeless-union-and-hope-for-the-homeless-project-2/ > > > I started using Trint but switched to Otter.ai. I need to > identify > the speakers, but I often only have to identify the first few times each > speaker talks, because Otter.ai does moderately well at identifying > subsequent orations by the same speaker -- and makes it easy for me to > correct the speaker. The transcript is not good enough to publish but > is good enough to use for timing, usually. Occasionally, Otter.ai gets > the times out of order. It allows me to download the transcript with > speakers and time in, e.g., docx format. Sadly, it sometimes > incorrectly marks the times, then sorts the segments in the wrong order > when I download the transcript. Then I have to manually correct that > problem. > > > Doing this may be more labor intensive than it should be. > Yesterday, > I recorded an interview of just over an hour and needed to cut it to 28 > minutes. I ran out of time to complete my editing plan before broadcast > time at 6 PM Central, so the result was 28:31 mm:ss; I had two or three > more cuts I wanted to make but gave up. > > > Otter.ai offers a free service for files that are no more than > 30 > minutes each up to a total of 300 minutes per month. I have a paid > account for $8.33 per month, up to 90 minutes per recording and a total > of 1200 minutes per month. > > > And I sometimes use this to create a complete transcript with > time > stamps, e.g.: > > > > https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Social_construction_of_crime_and_what_we_can_do_about_it > > > However, cleaning up a transcript and adding links and > references > like this can take another day or three. And without serious > references, it's not suitable for Wikiversity. > > > I'm willing to believe that there are better options both in > terms of > the transcription service and easier editing like Trebble. I've heard > of a service that supports editing videos like this, but I can't > remember it's name. I haven't tried it but probably should. > > > Comments? > Spencer Graves > > > > On 12/7/22 12:33 AM, Frieda Werden via grc wrote: > > https://youtu.be/5ah0IoZCIxI > > It's called Trebble. It lets you edit audio from its transcription. > Also > > has a suite of effects. Canada's national campus and community radio > > association has partnered with Trebble and is offering discounts for its > > members. They are recommending it for beginner editors. I think it > likely > > there will be a zombie-like quality to audio edited this way - but it > might > > be useful as a way to start cutting down longer pieces. I haven't tried > > it, but I might attend their demonstration workshop. It also says it > lets > > you capture audio from your website.... > > > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > From carl at wgdr.org Fri Dec 9 11:06:09 2022 From: carl at wgdr.org (Carl Etnier) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2022 14:06:09 -0500 Subject: [grc] Weird new audio editing software In-Reply-To: References: <63c96859-4002-5e4b-2c9a-5d1894da7a8e@effectivedefense.org> Message-ID: Thanks for sharing these programs and the workflow! I use AI-generated audio transcripts for finding needles in haystacks, like short (say, 30 seconds to a couple minutes) clips from an hour-long news conference. For editing my own interviews, I can work quickly enough within Audacity that I'm satisfied with that method. After saving a raw recording of the interview, I speed-listen to the interview in Audacity, with a Label Track below the audio track(s). Where there's something that needs to be cleaned up or potentially edited out, I make a note in the Label Track. Then I go back and do the editing. That's for interviews that just need to be tightened and cleaned up a bit. If I'm producing a segment with multiple voices, from multiple interviews, I'll still use the Label Track and speed listening, but I'll jot down quick notes about who is saying what as I listen. Then I'll save the label tracks into text files (which include time stamps), open up the text files and highlight the bits of the interviews that seem to be most important, and cobble together the segment from there. Your mileage may vary! It's always interesting to hear what others are doing. --Carl Carl Etnier (he/they) CVCR Programming 802.441.3337 (mobile) wgdr.org On Wed, Dec 7, 2022 at 3:54 PM Frieda Werden via grc wrote: > I just attended a Zoom demonstration session with the programmer who > created Trebble, hosted by the NCRA. I think there will be a recording > available and that I will be allowed to share the link. It looks > potentially quite useful. If not for finalizing a show, at least for > roughing it out. There are quite a few bells and whistles, all optional to > use, including noise reduction/removal that may be better than what I've > been able to find on Audacity. The demo went very quickly so I didn't get > to savour the sound changes. > > This website includes a link to try it for free. Would be interested to > hear from anyone who does: > https://www.trebble.fm/#make-audio-editing-a-breeze > > Trebble lets you store drafts, undo, etc. It can record from your mic or > you can upload audio. It automatically crossfades ambience when you make a > delete edit (don't know if that is optional). Seems fairly inexpensive. You > pay for blocks of time. > > Arbie Fru, a producer at the Nanaimo BC station, has started using it. When > the snow melts, I may go down there (about an hour from here) and watch him > work. Interestingly, the creator of the app sounds as if he is likely from > Africa, though maybe living in Canada (I am not experienced enough to pick > out language of origin from his accent). He said he developed the app to > help a group of women who wanted to start a podcast but had no familiarity > with audio editing. > > > Frieda Werden, Series Producer > WINGS: Women's International News Gathering Service www.wings.org > > > On Wed, Dec 7, 2022 at 2:17 AM Spencer Graves via grc < > grc at maillist.peak.org> > wrote: > > > Hi, Frieda et al.: > > > > > > I've not used Trebble. I'll be interested in the reports. > > > > > > I've been using I've been using computer transcription for a > few > > years now. From that I get time stamps to the nearest second. I record > > where I want to cut in spreadsheet software like MS Excel, LibreOffice > > Calc or Google Sheet and compute the times to keep and to cut. Then I > > switch to Audacity to get cut points to the nearest hundredths of a > > second and modify the spreadsheet as I edit. > > > > > > An example transcript with the accompanying audio file is > > available at: > > > > > > https://otter.ai/u/7eRY0BzhugBlyu5FPXteeWdfKoc > > > > > > The spreadsheet edit plan I created for that transcript is at: > > > > > > > > > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19h4QyJMHK2VqmD_FmAG55HcQ3e8q4Fu5zMjot9XlRf0/edit?usp=sharing > > > > > > The podcast I created from that is available at: > > > > > > > > > https://kkfi.org/program-episodes/kc-homeless-union-and-hope-for-the-homeless-project-2/ > > > > > > I started using Trint but switched to Otter.ai. I need to > > identify > > the speakers, but I often only have to identify the first few times each > > speaker talks, because Otter.ai does moderately well at identifying > > subsequent orations by the same speaker -- and makes it easy for me to > > correct the speaker. The transcript is not good enough to publish but > > is good enough to use for timing, usually. Occasionally, Otter.ai gets > > the times out of order. It allows me to download the transcript with > > speakers and time in, e.g., docx format. Sadly, it sometimes > > incorrectly marks the times, then sorts the segments in the wrong order > > when I download the transcript. Then I have to manually correct that > > problem. > > > > > > Doing this may be more labor intensive than it should be. > > Yesterday, > > I recorded an interview of just over an hour and needed to cut it to 28 > > minutes. I ran out of time to complete my editing plan before broadcast > > time at 6 PM Central, so the result was 28:31 mm:ss; I had two or three > > more cuts I wanted to make but gave up. > > > > > > Otter.ai offers a free service for files that are no more than > > 30 > > minutes each up to a total of 300 minutes per month. I have a paid > > account for $8.33 per month, up to 90 minutes per recording and a total > > of 1200 minutes per month. > > > > > > And I sometimes use this to create a complete transcript with > > time > > stamps, e.g.: > > > > > > > > > https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Social_construction_of_crime_and_what_we_can_do_about_it > > > > > > However, cleaning up a transcript and adding links and > > references > > like this can take another day or three. And without serious > > references, it's not suitable for Wikiversity. > > > > > > I'm willing to believe that there are better options both in > > terms of > > the transcription service and easier editing like Trebble. I've heard > > of a service that supports editing videos like this, but I can't > > remember it's name. I haven't tried it but probably should. > > > > > > Comments? > > Spencer Graves > > > > > > > > On 12/7/22 12:33 AM, Frieda Werden via grc wrote: > > > https://youtu.be/5ah0IoZCIxI > > > It's called Trebble. It lets you edit audio from its transcription. > > Also > > > has a suite of effects. Canada's national campus and community radio > > > association has partnered with Trebble and is offering discounts for > its > > > members. They are recommending it for beginner editors. I think it > > likely > > > there will be a zombie-like quality to audio edited this way - but it > > might > > > be useful as a way to start cutting down longer pieces. I haven't > tried > > > it, but I might attend their demonstration workshop. It also says it > > lets > > > you capture audio from your website.... > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > grc mailing list > > grc at maillist.peak.org > > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > > > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > From undercurrentsradio at gmail.com Fri Dec 9 13:06:02 2022 From: undercurrentsradio at gmail.com (UnderCurrents Radio) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2022 13:06:02 -0800 Subject: [grc] Weird new audio editing software In-Reply-To: References: <63c96859-4002-5e4b-2c9a-5d1894da7a8e@effectivedefense.org> Message-ID: Twisted wave now has cool multi-speech features. www.TwistedWave.com Gregg McVicar www.undercurrentsradio.net On Fri, Dec 9, 2022 at 11:06 AM Carl Etnier via grc wrote: > Thanks for sharing these programs and the workflow! > > I use AI-generated audio transcripts for finding needles in haystacks, like > short (say, 30 seconds to a couple minutes) clips from an hour-long news > conference. > > For editing my own interviews, I can work quickly enough within Audacity > that I'm satisfied with that method. After saving a raw recording of the > interview, I speed-listen to the interview in Audacity, with a Label Track > below the audio track(s). Where there's something that needs to be cleaned > up or potentially edited out, I make a note in the Label Track. Then I go > back and do the editing. > > That's for interviews that just need to be tightened and cleaned up a bit. > If I'm producing a segment with multiple voices, from multiple interviews, > I'll still use the Label Track and speed listening, but I'll jot down quick > notes about who is saying what as I listen. Then I'll save the label tracks > into text files (which include time stamps), open up the text files and > highlight the bits of the interviews that seem to be most important, and > cobble together the segment from there. > > Your mileage may vary! It's always interesting to hear what others are > doing. > > --Carl > > Carl Etnier (he/they) > CVCR Programming > 802.441.3337 (mobile) > wgdr.org > > > On Wed, Dec 7, 2022 at 3:54 PM Frieda Werden via grc < > grc at maillist.peak.org> > wrote: > > > I just attended a Zoom demonstration session with the programmer who > > created Trebble, hosted by the NCRA. I think there will be a recording > > available and that I will be allowed to share the link. It looks > > potentially quite useful. If not for finalizing a show, at least for > > roughing it out. There are quite a few bells and whistles, all optional > to > > use, including noise reduction/removal that may be better than what I've > > been able to find on Audacity. The demo went very quickly so I didn't > get > > to savour the sound changes. > > > > This website includes a link to try it for free. Would be interested to > > hear from anyone who does: > > https://www.trebble.fm/#make-audio-editing-a-breeze > > > > Trebble lets you store drafts, undo, etc. It can record from your mic or > > you can upload audio. It automatically crossfades ambience when you make > a > > delete edit (don't know if that is optional). Seems fairly inexpensive. > You > > pay for blocks of time. > > > > Arbie Fru, a producer at the Nanaimo BC station, has started using it. > When > > the snow melts, I may go down there (about an hour from here) and watch > him > > work. Interestingly, the creator of the app sounds as if he is likely > from > > Africa, though maybe living in Canada (I am not experienced enough to > pick > > out language of origin from his accent). He said he developed the app to > > help a group of women who wanted to start a podcast but had no > familiarity > > with audio editing. > > > > > > Frieda Werden, Series Producer > > WINGS: Women's International News Gathering Service www.wings.org > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 7, 2022 at 2:17 AM Spencer Graves via grc < > > grc at maillist.peak.org> > > wrote: > > > > > Hi, Frieda et al.: > > > > > > > > > I've not used Trebble. I'll be interested in the reports. > > > > > > > > > I've been using I've been using computer transcription for a > > few > > > years now. From that I get time stamps to the nearest second. I > record > > > where I want to cut in spreadsheet software like MS Excel, LibreOffice > > > Calc or Google Sheet and compute the times to keep and to cut. Then I > > > switch to Audacity to get cut points to the nearest hundredths of a > > > second and modify the spreadsheet as I edit. > > > > > > > > > An example transcript with the accompanying audio file is > > > available at: > > > > > > > > > https://otter.ai/u/7eRY0BzhugBlyu5FPXteeWdfKoc > > > > > > > > > The spreadsheet edit plan I created for that transcript is > at: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19h4QyJMHK2VqmD_FmAG55HcQ3e8q4Fu5zMjot9XlRf0/edit?usp=sharing > > > > > > > > > The podcast I created from that is available at: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://kkfi.org/program-episodes/kc-homeless-union-and-hope-for-the-homeless-project-2/ > > > > > > > > > I started using Trint but switched to Otter.ai. I need to > > > identify > > > the speakers, but I often only have to identify the first few times > each > > > speaker talks, because Otter.ai does moderately well at identifying > > > subsequent orations by the same speaker -- and makes it easy for me to > > > correct the speaker. The transcript is not good enough to publish but > > > is good enough to use for timing, usually. Occasionally, Otter.ai gets > > > the times out of order. It allows me to download the transcript with > > > speakers and time in, e.g., docx format. Sadly, it sometimes > > > incorrectly marks the times, then sorts the segments in the wrong order > > > when I download the transcript. Then I have to manually correct that > > > problem. > > > > > > > > > Doing this may be more labor intensive than it should be. > > > Yesterday, > > > I recorded an interview of just over an hour and needed to cut it to 28 > > > minutes. I ran out of time to complete my editing plan before > broadcast > > > time at 6 PM Central, so the result was 28:31 mm:ss; I had two or > three > > > more cuts I wanted to make but gave up. > > > > > > > > > Otter.ai offers a free service for files that are no more > than > > > 30 > > > minutes each up to a total of 300 minutes per month. I have a paid > > > account for $8.33 per month, up to 90 minutes per recording and a total > > > of 1200 minutes per month. > > > > > > > > > And I sometimes use this to create a complete transcript with > > > time > > > stamps, e.g.: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Social_construction_of_crime_and_what_we_can_do_about_it > > > > > > > > > However, cleaning up a transcript and adding links and > > > references > > > like this can take another day or three. And without serious > > > references, it's not suitable for Wikiversity. > > > > > > > > > I'm willing to believe that there are better options both in > > > terms of > > > the transcription service and easier editing like Trebble. I've heard > > > of a service that supports editing videos like this, but I can't > > > remember it's name. I haven't tried it but probably should. > > > > > > > > > Comments? > > > Spencer Graves > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/7/22 12:33 AM, Frieda Werden via grc wrote: > > > > https://youtu.be/5ah0IoZCIxI > > > > It's called Trebble. It lets you edit audio from its transcription. > > > Also > > > > has a suite of effects. Canada's national campus and community radio > > > > association has partnered with Trebble and is offering discounts for > > its > > > > members. They are recommending it for beginner editors. I think it > > > likely > > > > there will be a zombie-like quality to audio edited this way - but it > > > might > > > > be useful as a way to start cutting down longer pieces. I haven't > > tried > > > > it, but I might attend their demonstration workshop. It also says it > > > lets > > > > you capture audio from your website.... > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > grc mailing list > > > grc at maillist.peak.org > > > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > grc mailing list > > grc at maillist.peak.org > > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > > > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > -- ________________________ Gregg McVicar Host/Producer UnderCurrents www.undercurrentsradio.net From wings at wings.org Fri Dec 9 16:21:21 2022 From: wings at wings.org (Frieda Werden) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2022 16:21:21 -0800 Subject: [grc] Weird new audio editing software In-Reply-To: References: <63c96859-4002-5e4b-2c9a-5d1894da7a8e@effectivedefense.org> Message-ID: Interesting to learn what workarounds folks are coming up with to do complex editing. For now, I just use Audacity in mono with label track and make divisions and notes as I go along, noting what might be moved or featured. I do most of my level adjustments by hand. I do spend hours and hours on fiddling with shows (one of my friends said audio editing is like sculpture). As I age I am getting a bit more interested in likely shortcuts, but also not enthusiastic about investing in learning new tricks that might not be as good as what I've got. Frieda Werden, Series Producer WINGS: Women's International News Gathering Service www.wings.org On Fri, Dec 9, 2022 at 11:06 AM Carl Etnier wrote: > Thanks for sharing these programs and the workflow! > > I use AI-generated audio transcripts for finding needles in haystacks, > like short (say, 30 seconds to a couple minutes) clips from an hour-long > news conference. > > For editing my own interviews, I can work quickly enough within Audacity > that I'm satisfied with that method. After saving a raw recording of the > interview, I speed-listen to the interview in Audacity, with a Label Track > below the audio track(s). Where there's something that needs to be cleaned > up or potentially edited out, I make a note in the Label Track. Then I go > back and do the editing. > > That's for interviews that just need to be tightened and cleaned up a bit. > If I'm producing a segment with multiple voices, from multiple interviews, > I'll still use the Label Track and speed listening, but I'll jot down quick > notes about who is saying what as I listen. Then I'll save the label tracks > into text files (which include time stamps), open up the text files and > highlight the bits of the interviews that seem to be most important, and > cobble together the segment from there. > > Your mileage may vary! It's always interesting to hear what others are > doing. > > --Carl > > Carl Etnier (he/they) > CVCR Programming > 802.441.3337 (mobile) > wgdr.org > > > On Wed, Dec 7, 2022 at 3:54 PM Frieda Werden via grc < > grc at maillist.peak.org> wrote: > >> I just attended a Zoom demonstration session with the programmer who >> created Trebble, hosted by the NCRA. I think there will be a recording >> available and that I will be allowed to share the link. It looks >> potentially quite useful. If not for finalizing a show, at least for >> roughing it out. There are quite a few bells and whistles, all optional >> to >> use, including noise reduction/removal that may be better than what I've >> been able to find on Audacity. The demo went very quickly so I didn't get >> to savour the sound changes. >> >> This website includes a link to try it for free. Would be interested to >> hear from anyone who does: >> https://www.trebble.fm/#make-audio-editing-a-breeze >> >> Trebble lets you store drafts, undo, etc. It can record from your mic or >> you can upload audio. It automatically crossfades ambience when you make a >> delete edit (don't know if that is optional). Seems fairly inexpensive. >> You >> pay for blocks of time. >> >> Arbie Fru, a producer at the Nanaimo BC station, has started using it. >> When >> the snow melts, I may go down there (about an hour from here) and watch >> him >> work. Interestingly, the creator of the app sounds as if he is likely >> from >> Africa, though maybe living in Canada (I am not experienced enough to pick >> out language of origin from his accent). He said he developed the app to >> help a group of women who wanted to start a podcast but had no familiarity >> with audio editing. >> >> >> Frieda Werden, Series Producer >> WINGS: Women's International News Gathering Service www.wings.org >> >> >> On Wed, Dec 7, 2022 at 2:17 AM Spencer Graves via grc < >> grc at maillist.peak.org> >> wrote: >> >> > Hi, Frieda et al.: >> > >> > >> > I've not used Trebble. I'll be interested in the reports. >> > >> > >> > I've been using I've been using computer transcription for a >> few >> > years now. From that I get time stamps to the nearest second. I record >> > where I want to cut in spreadsheet software like MS Excel, LibreOffice >> > Calc or Google Sheet and compute the times to keep and to cut. Then I >> > switch to Audacity to get cut points to the nearest hundredths of a >> > second and modify the spreadsheet as I edit. >> > >> > >> > An example transcript with the accompanying audio file is >> > available at: >> > >> > >> > https://otter.ai/u/7eRY0BzhugBlyu5FPXteeWdfKoc >> > >> > >> > The spreadsheet edit plan I created for that transcript is at: >> > >> > >> > >> > >> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19h4QyJMHK2VqmD_FmAG55HcQ3e8q4Fu5zMjot9XlRf0/edit?usp=sharing >> > >> > >> > The podcast I created from that is available at: >> > >> > >> > >> > >> https://kkfi.org/program-episodes/kc-homeless-union-and-hope-for-the-homeless-project-2/ >> > >> > >> > I started using Trint but switched to Otter.ai. I need to >> > identify >> > the speakers, but I often only have to identify the first few times each >> > speaker talks, because Otter.ai does moderately well at identifying >> > subsequent orations by the same speaker -- and makes it easy for me to >> > correct the speaker. The transcript is not good enough to publish but >> > is good enough to use for timing, usually. Occasionally, Otter.ai gets >> > the times out of order. It allows me to download the transcript with >> > speakers and time in, e.g., docx format. Sadly, it sometimes >> > incorrectly marks the times, then sorts the segments in the wrong order >> > when I download the transcript. Then I have to manually correct that >> > problem. >> > >> > >> > Doing this may be more labor intensive than it should be. >> > Yesterday, >> > I recorded an interview of just over an hour and needed to cut it to 28 >> > minutes. I ran out of time to complete my editing plan before broadcast >> > time at 6 PM Central, so the result was 28:31 mm:ss; I had two or three >> > more cuts I wanted to make but gave up. >> > >> > >> > Otter.ai offers a free service for files that are no more than >> > 30 >> > minutes each up to a total of 300 minutes per month. I have a paid >> > account for $8.33 per month, up to 90 minutes per recording and a total >> > of 1200 minutes per month. >> > >> > >> > And I sometimes use this to create a complete transcript with >> > time >> > stamps, e.g.: >> > >> > >> > >> > >> https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Social_construction_of_crime_and_what_we_can_do_about_it >> > >> > >> > However, cleaning up a transcript and adding links and >> > references >> > like this can take another day or three. And without serious >> > references, it's not suitable for Wikiversity. >> > >> > >> > I'm willing to believe that there are better options both in >> > terms of >> > the transcription service and easier editing like Trebble. I've heard >> > of a service that supports editing videos like this, but I can't >> > remember it's name. I haven't tried it but probably should. >> > >> > >> > Comments? >> > Spencer Graves >> > >> > >> > >> > On 12/7/22 12:33 AM, Frieda Werden via grc wrote: >> > > https://youtu.be/5ah0IoZCIxI >> > > It's called Trebble. It lets you edit audio from its transcription. >> > Also >> > > has a suite of effects. Canada's national campus and community radio >> > > association has partnered with Trebble and is offering discounts for >> its >> > > members. They are recommending it for beginner editors. I think it >> > likely >> > > there will be a zombie-like quality to audio edited this way - but it >> > might >> > > be useful as a way to start cutting down longer pieces. I haven't >> tried >> > > it, but I might attend their demonstration workshop. It also says it >> > lets >> > > you capture audio from your website.... >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > grc mailing list >> > grc at maillist.peak.org >> > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> grc mailing list >> grc at maillist.peak.org >> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc >> > From mike at brownbroadcast.com Mon Dec 12 10:41:16 2022 From: mike at brownbroadcast.com (Michael D. Brown) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2022 13:41:16 -0500 Subject: [grc] radio stations airing pot ads, ignoring warnings from attorneys Message-ID: <008601d90e59$53078420$f9168c60$@brownbroadcast.com> https://www.insideradio.com/free/tens-of-thousands-of-ads-for-pot-dispensari es-aired-in-2022/article_85d88392-79f5-11ed-90e8-a75d570946ce.html Michael D. Brown Brown Broadcast Services, Inc. 3740 SW Comus St. ? Portland OR 97219-7418 USA mike at brownbroadcast.com ? www.brownbroadcast.com offc 503-245-6065 ? cell 503-703-3202 From simon at kmud.org Mon Dec 12 17:04:49 2022 From: simon at kmud.org (Simon Frech) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2022 17:04:49 -0800 Subject: [grc] Job posting: Technical Director, appl period extended Message-ID: <7DBCFA0D-F487-4D79-AEF7-3FC58C50B9AE@kmud.org> Hi folks, A few weeks ago I posted about a job opportunity at our station, you can find the job description at https://kmud.org/14371-2/ We?ve exteded the search until December 4, 2022. Take a look, spread the word. Thanks, Simon Frech Technical Director Redwood Community Radio, Inc. Redway, CA 95560 From simon at kmud.org Mon Dec 12 17:54:44 2022 From: simon at kmud.org (Simon Frech) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2022 17:54:44 -0800 Subject: [grc] Job posting: Technical Director, appl period extended In-Reply-To: <7DBCFA0D-F487-4D79-AEF7-3FC58C50B9AE@kmud.org> References: <7DBCFA0D-F487-4D79-AEF7-3FC58C50B9AE@kmud.org> Message-ID: <5FAE6E3F-C6E8-4454-84EE-03643403DDB2@kmud.org> Correction: Of course I meant JANUARY 4th, since the original deadline was tomorrow, December 13th (St. Lucia?s day in some countries, festival of lights). > On Dec 12, 2022, at 5:04 PM, Simon Frech wrote: > > Hi folks, > > A few weeks ago I posted about a job opportunity at our station, you can find the job description at https://kmud.org/14371-2/ > We?ve exteded the search until December 4, 2022. Take a look, spread the word. > > Thanks, > > > Simon Frech > Technical Director > Redwood Community Radio, Inc. > Redway, CA 95560 > From carl at wgdr.org Tue Dec 13 11:11:31 2022 From: carl at wgdr.org (Carl Etnier) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2022 14:11:31 -0500 Subject: [grc] Weird new audio editing software In-Reply-To: References: <63c96859-4002-5e4b-2c9a-5d1894da7a8e@effectivedefense.org> Message-ID: Well, I signed up for a free trial of Trebble and played around with it some. When you sign up, Armel, the CEO, offers to meet with you for half an hour to learn more about your needs and how Trebble can meet them. I like his style! So I signed up,and we had a nice chat this morning. He'd like to get to know members of the GRC community who edit audio, to understand our needs better, so Trebble can be responsive to them. I offered to coordinate a one-hour online session, in which he would also give some background as to how he thinks about Trebble. I offered to look for a time of the week that works for a bunch of people, so we can schedule an hour in January. If you're interested, please fill out the poll about times at https://forms.gle/JGP3UzuZ1r2HTtcG9. Please do so in the next 7 days, and I'll pass the info to Armel then, for scheduling. Also, he told me that they have a limited time offer that I'm welcome to pass on to the GRC community. (He's not sure how limited; they're offering it through January, and that may be extended.) The normal pricing for Trebble is based on a monthly subscription--the more you pay, the more audio hours of transcription/editing you get each month. When you stop paying, you lose access (except to 30 audio minutes a month). But for $70, they're offering lifetime access to two audio hours per month of transcription/editing. If you need more than that, you can buy lifetime access in chunks of two audio hours, at $70 each. Details here . My impressions of Trebble, based on the little bit of playing I've done with it, is that it could be helpful for beginning audio editors. But there's a real technique to cutting out bits of audio so that what remains sounds natural, and Trebble's tools are too crude to achieve that. Maybe it's a gateway program for people, to gain confidence? There are probably plenty of uses where somewhat clumsily edited audio is better than unedited audio. I appreciate the link to TwistedWave, which I haven't tried yet. I like its pricing strategy: Rather than buying a subscription, you pay $100 for the program, and that's it for unlimited hours of audio. Its range of languages is smaller than Trebble's; TwistedWave transcribes to about a dozen, whereas Trebble transcribes to several dozen, from Afrikaans to Ukrainian. I plan to sign up for TwistedWave's 30-day free trial sometime soon. I think it could be useful in foreign language learning (e.g., transcribing podcasts in a foreign language) if nothing else. Carl Etnier (he/they) CVCR Programming 802.441.3337 (mobile) wgdr.org On Fri, Dec 9, 2022 at 7:21 PM Frieda Werden wrote: > Interesting to learn what workarounds folks are coming up with to do > complex editing. > For now, I just use Audacity in mono with label track and make divisions > and notes as I go along, noting what might be moved or featured. I do most > of my level adjustments by hand. I do spend hours and hours on fiddling > with shows (one of my friends said audio editing is like sculpture). As I > age I am getting a bit more interested in likely shortcuts, but also not > enthusiastic about investing in learning new tricks that might not be as > good as what I've got. > > Frieda Werden, Series Producer > WINGS: Women's International News Gathering Service www.wings.org > > > On Fri, Dec 9, 2022 at 11:06 AM Carl Etnier wrote: > >> Thanks for sharing these programs and the workflow! >> >> I use AI-generated audio transcripts for finding needles in haystacks, >> like short (say, 30 seconds to a couple minutes) clips from an hour-long >> news conference. >> >> For editing my own interviews, I can work quickly enough within Audacity >> that I'm satisfied with that method. After saving a raw recording of the >> interview, I speed-listen to the interview in Audacity, with a Label Track >> below the audio track(s). Where there's something that needs to be cleaned >> up or potentially edited out, I make a note in the Label Track. Then I go >> back and do the editing. >> >> That's for interviews that just need to be tightened and cleaned up a >> bit. If I'm producing a segment with multiple voices, from multiple >> interviews, I'll still use the Label Track and speed listening, but I'll >> jot down quick notes about who is saying what as I listen. Then I'll save >> the label tracks into text files (which include time stamps), open up the >> text files and highlight the bits of the interviews that seem to be most >> important, and cobble together the segment from there. >> >> Your mileage may vary! It's always interesting to hear what others are >> doing. >> >> --Carl >> >> Carl Etnier (he/they) >> CVCR Programming >> 802.441.3337 (mobile) >> wgdr.org >> >> >> On Wed, Dec 7, 2022 at 3:54 PM Frieda Werden via grc < >> grc at maillist.peak.org> wrote: >> >>> I just attended a Zoom demonstration session with the programmer who >>> created Trebble, hosted by the NCRA. I think there will be a recording >>> available and that I will be allowed to share the link. It looks >>> potentially quite useful. If not for finalizing a show, at least for >>> roughing it out. There are quite a few bells and whistles, all optional >>> to >>> use, including noise reduction/removal that may be better than what I've >>> been able to find on Audacity. The demo went very quickly so I didn't >>> get >>> to savour the sound changes. >>> >>> This website includes a link to try it for free. Would be interested to >>> hear from anyone who does: >>> https://www.trebble.fm/#make-audio-editing-a-breeze >>> >>> Trebble lets you store drafts, undo, etc. It can record from your mic or >>> you can upload audio. It automatically crossfades ambience when you make >>> a >>> delete edit (don't know if that is optional). Seems fairly inexpensive. >>> You >>> pay for blocks of time. >>> >>> Arbie Fru, a producer at the Nanaimo BC station, has started using it. >>> When >>> the snow melts, I may go down there (about an hour from here) and watch >>> him >>> work. Interestingly, the creator of the app sounds as if he is likely >>> from >>> Africa, though maybe living in Canada (I am not experienced enough to >>> pick >>> out language of origin from his accent). He said he developed the app to >>> help a group of women who wanted to start a podcast but had no >>> familiarity >>> with audio editing. >>> >>> >>> Frieda Werden, Series Producer >>> WINGS: Women's International News Gathering Service www.wings.org >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2022 at 2:17 AM Spencer Graves via grc < >>> grc at maillist.peak.org> >>> wrote: >>> >>> > Hi, Frieda et al.: >>> > >>> > >>> > I've not used Trebble. I'll be interested in the reports. >>> > >>> > >>> > I've been using I've been using computer transcription for a >>> few >>> > years now. From that I get time stamps to the nearest second. I >>> record >>> > where I want to cut in spreadsheet software like MS Excel, LibreOffice >>> > Calc or Google Sheet and compute the times to keep and to cut. Then I >>> > switch to Audacity to get cut points to the nearest hundredths of a >>> > second and modify the spreadsheet as I edit. >>> > >>> > >>> > An example transcript with the accompanying audio file is >>> > available at: >>> > >>> > >>> > https://otter.ai/u/7eRY0BzhugBlyu5FPXteeWdfKoc >>> > >>> > >>> > The spreadsheet edit plan I created for that transcript is >>> at: >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19h4QyJMHK2VqmD_FmAG55HcQ3e8q4Fu5zMjot9XlRf0/edit?usp=sharing >>> > >>> > >>> > The podcast I created from that is available at: >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> https://kkfi.org/program-episodes/kc-homeless-union-and-hope-for-the-homeless-project-2/ >>> > >>> > >>> > I started using Trint but switched to Otter.ai. I need to >>> > identify >>> > the speakers, but I often only have to identify the first few times >>> each >>> > speaker talks, because Otter.ai does moderately well at identifying >>> > subsequent orations by the same speaker -- and makes it easy for me to >>> > correct the speaker. The transcript is not good enough to publish but >>> > is good enough to use for timing, usually. Occasionally, Otter.ai gets >>> > the times out of order. It allows me to download the transcript with >>> > speakers and time in, e.g., docx format. Sadly, it sometimes >>> > incorrectly marks the times, then sorts the segments in the wrong order >>> > when I download the transcript. Then I have to manually correct that >>> > problem. >>> > >>> > >>> > Doing this may be more labor intensive than it should be. >>> > Yesterday, >>> > I recorded an interview of just over an hour and needed to cut it to 28 >>> > minutes. I ran out of time to complete my editing plan before >>> broadcast >>> > time at 6 PM Central, so the result was 28:31 mm:ss; I had two or >>> three >>> > more cuts I wanted to make but gave up. >>> > >>> > >>> > Otter.ai offers a free service for files that are no more >>> than >>> > 30 >>> > minutes each up to a total of 300 minutes per month. I have a paid >>> > account for $8.33 per month, up to 90 minutes per recording and a total >>> > of 1200 minutes per month. >>> > >>> > >>> > And I sometimes use this to create a complete transcript with >>> > time >>> > stamps, e.g.: >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Social_construction_of_crime_and_what_we_can_do_about_it >>> > >>> > >>> > However, cleaning up a transcript and adding links and >>> > references >>> > like this can take another day or three. And without serious >>> > references, it's not suitable for Wikiversity. >>> > >>> > >>> > I'm willing to believe that there are better options both in >>> > terms of >>> > the transcription service and easier editing like Trebble. I've heard >>> > of a service that supports editing videos like this, but I can't >>> > remember it's name. I haven't tried it but probably should. >>> > >>> > >>> > Comments? >>> > Spencer Graves >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > On 12/7/22 12:33 AM, Frieda Werden via grc wrote: >>> > > https://youtu.be/5ah0IoZCIxI >>> > > It's called Trebble. It lets you edit audio from its transcription. >>> > Also >>> > > has a suite of effects. Canada's national campus and community radio >>> > > association has partnered with Trebble and is offering discounts for >>> its >>> > > members. They are recommending it for beginner editors. I think it >>> > likely >>> > > there will be a zombie-like quality to audio edited this way - but it >>> > might >>> > > be useful as a way to start cutting down longer pieces. I haven't >>> tried >>> > > it, but I might attend their demonstration workshop. It also says it >>> > lets >>> > > you capture audio from your website.... >>> > > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > grc mailing list >>> > grc at maillist.peak.org >>> > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ >>> grc mailing list >>> grc at maillist.peak.org >>> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc >>> >> From wings at wings.org Tue Dec 13 11:15:22 2022 From: wings at wings.org (Frieda Werden) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2022 11:15:22 -0800 Subject: [grc] Weird new audio editing software In-Reply-To: References: <63c96859-4002-5e4b-2c9a-5d1894da7a8e@effectivedefense.org> Message-ID: So glad you are looking into all this, including both programs. Frieda Werden, Series Producer WINGS: Women's International News Gathering Service www.wings.org On Tue, Dec 13, 2022 at 11:12 AM Carl Etnier wrote: > Well, I signed up for a free trial of Trebble and played around with it > some. When you sign up, Armel, the CEO, offers to meet with you for half an > hour to learn more about your needs and how Trebble can meet them. I like > his style! So I signed up,and we had a nice chat this morning. He'd like to > get to know members of the GRC community who edit audio, to understand our > needs better, so Trebble can be responsive to them. I offered to coordinate > a one-hour online session, in which he would also give some background as > to how he thinks about Trebble. > > I offered to look for a time of the week that works for a bunch of people, > so we can schedule an hour in January. If you're interested, please fill > out the poll about times at https://forms.gle/JGP3UzuZ1r2HTtcG9. Please > do so in the next 7 days, and I'll pass the info to Armel then, for > scheduling. > > Also, he told me that they have a limited time offer that I'm welcome to > pass on to the GRC community. (He's not sure how limited; they're offering > it through January, and that may be extended.) The normal pricing for > Trebble is based on a monthly subscription--the more you pay, the more > audio hours of transcription/editing you get each month. When you stop > paying, you lose access (except to 30 audio minutes a month). But for $70, > they're offering lifetime access to two audio hours per month of > transcription/editing. If you need more than that, you can buy lifetime > access in chunks of two audio hours, at $70 each. Details here > > . > > My impressions of Trebble, based on the little bit of playing I've done > with it, is that it could be helpful for beginning audio editors. But > there's a real technique to cutting out bits of audio so that what remains > sounds natural, and Trebble's tools are too crude to achieve that. Maybe > it's a gateway program for people, to gain confidence? There are probably > plenty of uses where somewhat clumsily edited audio is better than unedited > audio. > > I appreciate the link to TwistedWave, which I haven't tried yet. I like > its pricing strategy: Rather than buying a subscription, you pay $100 for > the program, and that's it for unlimited hours of audio. Its range of > languages is smaller than Trebble's; TwistedWave transcribes to about a > dozen, whereas Trebble transcribes to several dozen, from Afrikaans to > Ukrainian. I plan to sign up for TwistedWave's 30-day free trial sometime > soon. I think it could be useful in foreign language learning (e.g., > transcribing podcasts in a foreign language) if nothing else. > > Carl Etnier (he/they) > CVCR Programming > 802.441.3337 (mobile) > wgdr.org > > > On Fri, Dec 9, 2022 at 7:21 PM Frieda Werden wrote: > >> Interesting to learn what workarounds folks are coming up with to do >> complex editing. >> For now, I just use Audacity in mono with label track and make divisions >> and notes as I go along, noting what might be moved or featured. I do most >> of my level adjustments by hand. I do spend hours and hours on fiddling >> with shows (one of my friends said audio editing is like sculpture). As I >> age I am getting a bit more interested in likely shortcuts, but also not >> enthusiastic about investing in learning new tricks that might not be as >> good as what I've got. >> >> Frieda Werden, Series Producer >> WINGS: Women's International News Gathering Service www.wings.org >> >> >> On Fri, Dec 9, 2022 at 11:06 AM Carl Etnier wrote: >> >>> Thanks for sharing these programs and the workflow! >>> >>> I use AI-generated audio transcripts for finding needles in haystacks, >>> like short (say, 30 seconds to a couple minutes) clips from an hour-long >>> news conference. >>> >>> For editing my own interviews, I can work quickly enough within Audacity >>> that I'm satisfied with that method. After saving a raw recording of the >>> interview, I speed-listen to the interview in Audacity, with a Label Track >>> below the audio track(s). Where there's something that needs to be cleaned >>> up or potentially edited out, I make a note in the Label Track. Then I go >>> back and do the editing. >>> >>> That's for interviews that just need to be tightened and cleaned up a >>> bit. If I'm producing a segment with multiple voices, from multiple >>> interviews, I'll still use the Label Track and speed listening, but I'll >>> jot down quick notes about who is saying what as I listen. Then I'll save >>> the label tracks into text files (which include time stamps), open up the >>> text files and highlight the bits of the interviews that seem to be most >>> important, and cobble together the segment from there. >>> >>> Your mileage may vary! It's always interesting to hear what others are >>> doing. >>> >>> --Carl >>> >>> Carl Etnier (he/they) >>> CVCR Programming >>> 802.441.3337 (mobile) >>> wgdr.org >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2022 at 3:54 PM Frieda Werden via grc < >>> grc at maillist.peak.org> wrote: >>> >>>> I just attended a Zoom demonstration session with the programmer who >>>> created Trebble, hosted by the NCRA. I think there will be a recording >>>> available and that I will be allowed to share the link. It looks >>>> potentially quite useful. If not for finalizing a show, at least for >>>> roughing it out. There are quite a few bells and whistles, all >>>> optional to >>>> use, including noise reduction/removal that may be better than what I've >>>> been able to find on Audacity. The demo went very quickly so I didn't >>>> get >>>> to savour the sound changes. >>>> >>>> This website includes a link to try it for free. Would be interested to >>>> hear from anyone who does: >>>> https://www.trebble.fm/#make-audio-editing-a-breeze >>>> >>>> Trebble lets you store drafts, undo, etc. It can record from your mic or >>>> you can upload audio. It automatically crossfades ambience when you >>>> make a >>>> delete edit (don't know if that is optional). Seems fairly inexpensive. >>>> You >>>> pay for blocks of time. >>>> >>>> Arbie Fru, a producer at the Nanaimo BC station, has started using it. >>>> When >>>> the snow melts, I may go down there (about an hour from here) and watch >>>> him >>>> work. Interestingly, the creator of the app sounds as if he is likely >>>> from >>>> Africa, though maybe living in Canada (I am not experienced enough to >>>> pick >>>> out language of origin from his accent). He said he developed the app >>>> to >>>> help a group of women who wanted to start a podcast but had no >>>> familiarity >>>> with audio editing. >>>> >>>> >>>> Frieda Werden, Series Producer >>>> WINGS: Women's International News Gathering Service www.wings.org >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2022 at 2:17 AM Spencer Graves via grc < >>>> grc at maillist.peak.org> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> > Hi, Frieda et al.: >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > I've not used Trebble. I'll be interested in the reports. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > I've been using I've been using computer transcription for >>>> a few >>>> > years now. From that I get time stamps to the nearest second. I >>>> record >>>> > where I want to cut in spreadsheet software like MS Excel, LibreOffice >>>> > Calc or Google Sheet and compute the times to keep and to cut. Then I >>>> > switch to Audacity to get cut points to the nearest hundredths of a >>>> > second and modify the spreadsheet as I edit. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > An example transcript with the accompanying audio file is >>>> > available at: >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > https://otter.ai/u/7eRY0BzhugBlyu5FPXteeWdfKoc >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > The spreadsheet edit plan I created for that transcript is >>>> at: >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19h4QyJMHK2VqmD_FmAG55HcQ3e8q4Fu5zMjot9XlRf0/edit?usp=sharing >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > The podcast I created from that is available at: >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> https://kkfi.org/program-episodes/kc-homeless-union-and-hope-for-the-homeless-project-2/ >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > I started using Trint but switched to Otter.ai. I need to >>>> > identify >>>> > the speakers, but I often only have to identify the first few times >>>> each >>>> > speaker talks, because Otter.ai does moderately well at identifying >>>> > subsequent orations by the same speaker -- and makes it easy for me to >>>> > correct the speaker. The transcript is not good enough to publish but >>>> > is good enough to use for timing, usually. Occasionally, Otter.ai >>>> gets >>>> > the times out of order. It allows me to download the transcript with >>>> > speakers and time in, e.g., docx format. Sadly, it sometimes >>>> > incorrectly marks the times, then sorts the segments in the wrong >>>> order >>>> > when I download the transcript. Then I have to manually correct that >>>> > problem. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Doing this may be more labor intensive than it should be. >>>> > Yesterday, >>>> > I recorded an interview of just over an hour and needed to cut it to >>>> 28 >>>> > minutes. I ran out of time to complete my editing plan before >>>> broadcast >>>> > time at 6 PM Central, so the result was 28:31 mm:ss; I had two or >>>> three >>>> > more cuts I wanted to make but gave up. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Otter.ai offers a free service for files that are no more >>>> than >>>> > 30 >>>> > minutes each up to a total of 300 minutes per month. I have a paid >>>> > account for $8.33 per month, up to 90 minutes per recording and a >>>> total >>>> > of 1200 minutes per month. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > And I sometimes use this to create a complete transcript >>>> with >>>> > time >>>> > stamps, e.g.: >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Social_construction_of_crime_and_what_we_can_do_about_it >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > However, cleaning up a transcript and adding links and >>>> > references >>>> > like this can take another day or three. And without serious >>>> > references, it's not suitable for Wikiversity. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > I'm willing to believe that there are better options both in >>>> > terms of >>>> > the transcription service and easier editing like Trebble. I've heard >>>> > of a service that supports editing videos like this, but I can't >>>> > remember it's name. I haven't tried it but probably should. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Comments? >>>> > Spencer Graves >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On 12/7/22 12:33 AM, Frieda Werden via grc wrote: >>>> > > https://youtu.be/5ah0IoZCIxI >>>> > > It's called Trebble. It lets you edit audio from its transcription. >>>> > Also >>>> > > has a suite of effects. Canada's national campus and community >>>> radio >>>> > > association has partnered with Trebble and is offering discounts >>>> for its >>>> > > members. They are recommending it for beginner editors. I think it >>>> > likely >>>> > > there will be a zombie-like quality to audio edited this way - but >>>> it >>>> > might >>>> > > be useful as a way to start cutting down longer pieces. I haven't >>>> tried >>>> > > it, but I might attend their demonstration workshop. It also says >>>> it >>>> > lets >>>> > > you capture audio from your website.... >>>> > > >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > grc mailing list >>>> > grc at maillist.peak.org >>>> > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> grc mailing list >>>> grc at maillist.peak.org >>>> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc >>>> >>> From mike at brownbroadcast.com Sun Dec 18 16:00:06 2022 From: mike at brownbroadcast.com (Michael D. Brown) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2022 16:00:06 -0800 Subject: [grc] RADIO FOR PEOPLE ZOOM CALL - Tuesday, Dec 20 - 10AM PST / 1PM EST Message-ID: <008501d9133c$dac920c0$905b6240$@brownbroadcast.com> Please join us this Tuesday Dec 20, for the RADIO FOR PEOPLE Zoom Call - 10AM PST / 1PM EST Same Zoom link as last month. The link is not posted publicly. For a link to the meeting: betty at c-map.org == Tentative Agenda FCC Updates -No national EAS test was conducted in ?22, but ?Form One? is required to be filed by Feb 28, 2023 -Many stations air pot ads - FCC mum so far -Lots of NCE grants; no new Points Decision groups released -Effect of Dem majority in Senate on Biden appointees (including Sohn) Station Updates Conferences and Training Audio over broadcast continues to fade (NFCB Webinar) -More time with audio through mobile devices, than radio receivers -39% report having zero radios at home -fight to keep AM radio in electric cars New ATSC-3.0 Digital TV standard: bandwidth for new radio stations? Additions to this agenda? thanks Michael D. Brown Brown Broadcast Services, Inc. 3740 SW Comus St. ? Portland OR 97219-7418 USA mike at brownbroadcast.com ? www.brownbroadcast.com offc 503-245-6065 ? cell 503-703-3202 From mike at brownbroadcast.com Mon Dec 19 13:32:20 2022 From: mike at brownbroadcast.com (Michael D. Brown) Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2022 13:32:20 -0800 Subject: [grc] TOMORROW: RADIO FOR PEOPLE Zoom Call ? 10AM PST / 1PM EST Message-ID: <006a01d913f1$609cdfc0$21d69f40$@brownbroadcast.com> FCC Updates -No national EAS test was conducted in ?22, but ?Form One? is required to be filed by Feb 28, 2023 -Many stations air marijuana ads - FCC mum so far -Lots of NCE grants; no new Points Decision groups released -Effect of Warnock victory & Dem majority in Senate on Biden appointees (including Sohn) Station Updates Conferences and Training Audio over broadcast continues to fade (NFCB Webinar) -More time with audio through mobile devices, than radio receivers -39% report having zero radios at home -fight to keep AM radio in electric cars New ATSC-3.0 Digital TV standard: bandwidth for new radio stations? Same Zoom link as last month. The link is not posted publicly. For a link to the meeting: betty at c-map.org Michael D. Brown Brown Broadcast Services, Inc. 3740 SW Comus St. ? Portland OR 97219-7418 USA mike at brownbroadcast.com ? www.brownbroadcast.com offc 503-245-6065 ? cell 503-703-3202 From mike at brownbroadcast.com Tue Dec 20 08:48:19 2022 From: mike at brownbroadcast.com (Michael D. Brown) Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2022 08:48:19 -0800 Subject: [grc] **TODAY**: RADIO FOR PEOPLE Zoom Call ? 10AM PST / 1PM EST Message-ID: <006501d91492$de33d5a0$9a9b80e0$@brownbroadcast.com> FCC Updates -no national EAS test was conducted in ?22, but ?Form One? is required to be filed by Feb 28, 2023 -many stations air marijuana ads - FCC mum so far -lots of NCE grants; no new Points Decision groups released -effect of Warnock victory & Dem majority in Senate on Biden appointees (including Sohn) Station Updates Conferences and Training New ATSC-3.0 Digital TV standard: -what is it and why should radio folks care? -bandwidth for new radio stations? Audio over broadcast continues to fade (NFCB Webinar) -more time is spent with audio through mobile devices, than radio receivers - for the first time in history -39% report having zero radios at home -fight to keep AM radio in electric cars Same Zoom link as last month. The link is not posted publicly. For a link to the meeting: betty at c-map.org Michael D. Brown Brown Broadcast Services, Inc. 3740 SW Comus St. ? Portland OR 97219-7418 USA mike at brownbroadcast.com ? www.brownbroadcast.com offc 503-245-6065 ? cell 503-703-3202 From frieda.werden at gmail.com Wed Dec 21 09:10:32 2022 From: frieda.werden at gmail.com (Frieda Werden) Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2022 09:10:32 -0800 Subject: [grc] Fwd: AI Hiding In Plain Sight In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ?Adobe released Project Podcast, a free AI-powered audio processing tool that can enhance voice recordings, making them sound like recordings made in a professional audio studio. ? ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Shelly Palmer Date: Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 8:16 AM Subject: AI Hiding In Plain Sight To: This is absolutely the year of AI, and the announcements are just going to keep on coming. ShellyPalmer Think About This Wednesday, December 21, 2022 There are a bunch of AI announcements in the news today. OpenAI is releasing Point-E, which is like DALL-E but for 3D modeling. Its resolution isn't great, but it's up to two magnitudes faster than competing systems. Adobe released Project Podcast, a free AI-powered audio processing tool that can enhance voice recordings, making them sound like recordings made in a professional audio studio. Google announced a research project for an app that can read a prescription written in "doctor's handwriting" and figure out what the doctor was trying to prescribe. (Details for each below.) This is absolutely the year of AI, and the announcements are just going to keep on coming. One of the biggest opportunities for value creation in the next few years will be companies that leverage the base layers provided by large language models and finely tune highly-specialized middle layers above them. Think of it as training (educating) workers, then renting them out to other companies. The startup thesis for 2023? Find an existing problem or inefficiency you can solve by fine tuning a large language model, then turn the solution into a SaaS. So exciting!!! -s P.S. Are you going to CES 2023? If so, there are still a few openings left for live tech briefings and floor tours on Saturday. We've also got an unlimited number of openings for online post-CES tech briefings; these one-hour Zoom sessions are custom-created for your business and can be scheduled at your convenience. Learn more . ------------------------------ Today's Most Interesting Stories OpenAI releases Point-E, which is like DALL-E but for 3D modeling OpenAI, the Elon Musk-founded artificial intelligence startup behind popular DALL-E text-to-image generator, announced on Tuesday the release of its newest picture-making machine POINT-E, which can produce 3D point clouds directly from text prompts. Read More ? Engadget Shelly's Blog: How Far Can AI Go? If you haven't already uploaded your 10-to-20 selfies to Lensa and let it turn you into a superhero, or a rock star, or an astronaut, you should give it a try. It's fun, but it's also instructive. You'll learn about the type and quality of inputs generative AI needs in order to obtain satisfactory results, and you'll experience the workflow and process of consumer-grade generative AI. But most importantly, when the model transforms you into a mystical creature in a cosmic setting, or an anime character, or a cyborg, you will find yourself asking one question: How far can this technology go? Read More ? Shelly Palmer Google can now read your doctor's bad handwriting A number of doctors write medicine prescriptions in haste. Google says it is working with pharmacists to work out that handwriting. Read More ? TechCrunch Make your noisy recording sound like pro audio with Adobe?s free AI tool Recently, Adobe released a free AI-powered audio processing tool that can enhance some poor-quality voice recordings by removing background noise and making the voice sound stronger. When it works, the result sounds like a recording made in a professional sound booth with a high-quality microphone. Read More ? Ars Technica Elon Musk says he'll step down as Twitter CEO, but won't sell the company Elon Musk has said that he will step down as CEO of Twitter once a suitable replacement can be found. Read More ? Engadget Report: YouTube to pay $2.5 billion per year for Sunday Ticket YouTube is closing in on a deal for Sunday Ticket, the out-of-market package that DirecTV has exclusively broadcast since 1994, when it debuted. John Ourand of Sports Business Journal reports that YouTube will pay $2.5 billion per year for the package. Read More ? ProFootballTalk ChatGPT Has Infiltrated Twitter Replies The now popular text-producing AI is reportedly being used to engage with users on Twitter. Read More ? Gizmodo TikTok bans hit more U.S. states; security firm says most access blocked globally State agencies in Louisiana and West Virginia on Monday became the latest to ban the use of the popular social media service TikTok on government-managed devices over concern that China could use it to track Americans and censor content. Read More ? Reuters Delta will reportedly make its in-flight Wi-Fi free Delta Air Lines is reportedly planning to make in-flight Wi-Fi free on a ?significant portion? of its planes starting early next year. Read More ? The Verge ------------------------------ Need a Keynoter, Host or Moderator? I would welcome the opportunity to speak at your next event. Learn more. About The Palmer Group The Palmer Group works on Web3 strategy and solutions with Fortune 500 companies like Samsung, Ford, Verizon, Meta, ComcastNBCU, PepsiCo, Walt Disney, Charter, Nike, Oracle, Travelers, Delta Air Lines, Paramount, Mastercard, and GSK to name a few. Please contact us to learn how we can help you leverage the power and promise of Web3. Read More ? The Palmer Group ------------------------------ *Please Note: I am not a financial advisor. Nothing contained herein should be considered financial advice. If you are considering any type of investment you should conduct your own research and, if necessary, seek the advice of a licensed financial advisor. CES? is the registered trademark of The Consumer Technology Association.? The Palmer Group is not endorsed by, affiliated with, or sponsored by CES.* This email was sent to frieda.werden at gmail.com *why did I get this?* unsubscribe from this list update subscription preferences The Palmer Group ? PO Box 1455 ? New York, NY 10156-1455 ? USA -- -- Frieda Werden, Series Producer WINGS: Women's International News Gathering Service email: wings at wings.org and? wingsradionews at gmail.com? Facebook news feed: https://www.facebook.com/wingsradio To contribute funds: https://www.paypal.me/wingsradio websites: www.wings.org (historic) New site being rebuilt at: wingsradio.org/wordpress Older editions gradually being archived ?on archive.org From pobnkin at comcast.net Wed Dec 21 18:37:55 2022 From: pobnkin at comcast.net (Paul O'ROURKE BABB) Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2022 18:37:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: [grc] Fwd: AI Hiding In Plain Sight In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <536355913.351015.1671676675775@connect.xfinity.com> You find this intrusion exciting??? I find it supremely frightening and outrageous!!! I am a radio programmer who appreciates and wants great editing tools and I am a prescribing clinician and patient advocate whose work and training are increasingly challenged and overridden by demanding patients who are certain their few hours of research on the inter net is far better and by mushrooming layers of hucksters and insurance "benefits managers". Add to this the tremendous criminal enterprises manufacturing and selling fake medicines and treatments. This has NOTHING to do with "training(educating)" workers and everything to do with replacing us in every aspect of our lives that can be monetized. This should be vigorously opposed and struggled against in every way we can. Paul > On 12/21/2022 9:10 AM Frieda Werden via grc wrote: > > > ?Adobe released Project Podcast, a free AI-powered audio processing tool > that can enhance voice recordings, making them sound like recordings made > in a professional audio studio. ? > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: Shelly Palmer > Date: Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 8:16 AM > Subject: AI Hiding In Plain Sight > To: > > > This is absolutely the year of AI, and the announcements are just going to > keep on coming. > ShellyPalmer > > > Think About This > > Wednesday, December 21, 2022 > > There are a bunch of AI announcements in the news today. OpenAI is > releasing Point-E, which is like DALL-E but for 3D modeling. Its resolution > isn't great, but it's up to two magnitudes faster than competing systems. > Adobe released Project Podcast, a free AI-powered audio processing tool > that can enhance voice recordings, making them sound like recordings made > in a professional audio studio. Google announced a research project for an > app that can read a prescription written in "doctor's handwriting" and > figure out what the doctor was trying to prescribe. (Details for each > below.) > > This is absolutely the year of AI, and the announcements are just going to > keep on coming. One of the biggest opportunities for value creation in the > next few years will be companies that leverage the base layers provided by > large language models and finely tune highly-specialized middle layers > above them. Think of it as training (educating) workers, then renting them > out to other companies. The startup thesis for 2023? Find an existing > problem or inefficiency you can solve by fine tuning a large language > model, then turn the solution into a SaaS. So exciting!!! -s > > P.S. Are you going to CES 2023? If so, there are still a few openings left > for live tech briefings and floor tours on Saturday. We've also got an > unlimited number of openings for online post-CES tech briefings; these > one-hour Zoom sessions are custom-created for your business and can be > scheduled at your convenience. Learn more > > . > ------------------------------ > Today's Most Interesting Stories OpenAI releases Point-E, which is like > DALL-E but for 3D modeling > > > OpenAI, the Elon Musk-founded artificial intelligence startup behind > popular DALL-E text-to-image generator, announced on Tuesday the release of > its newest picture-making machine POINT-E, which can produce 3D point > clouds directly from text prompts. > > > Read More ? Engadget > > Shelly's Blog: How Far Can AI Go? > > > If you haven't already uploaded your 10-to-20 selfies to Lensa and let it > turn you into a superhero, or a rock star, or an astronaut, you should give > it a try. It's fun, but it's also instructive. You'll learn about the type > and quality of inputs generative AI needs in order to obtain satisfactory > results, and you'll experience the workflow and process of consumer-grade > generative AI. But most importantly, when the model transforms you into a > mystical creature in a cosmic setting, or an anime character, or a cyborg, > you will find yourself asking one question: How far can this technology go? > > > Read More ? Shelly Palmer > > Google can now read your doctor's bad handwriting > > > A number of doctors write medicine prescriptions in haste. Google says it > is working with pharmacists to work out that handwriting. > > > Read More ? TechCrunch > > > > Make your noisy recording sound like pro audio with Adobe?s free AI tool > > > Recently, Adobe released a free AI-powered audio processing tool that can > enhance some poor-quality voice recordings by removing background noise and > making the voice sound stronger. When it works, the result sounds like a > recording made in a professional sound booth with a high-quality microphone. > > > Read More ? Ars Technica > > Elon Musk says he'll step down as Twitter CEO, but won't sell the company > > > Elon Musk has said that he will step down as CEO of Twitter once a suitable > replacement can be found. > > > Read More ? Engadget > > Report: YouTube to pay $2.5 billion per year for Sunday Ticket > > > YouTube is closing in on a deal for Sunday Ticket, the out-of-market > package that DirecTV has exclusively broadcast since 1994, when it debuted. > John Ourand of Sports Business Journal reports that YouTube will pay $2.5 > billion per year for the package. > > > Read More ? ProFootballTalk > > > > ChatGPT Has Infiltrated Twitter Replies > > > The now popular text-producing AI is reportedly being used to engage with > users on Twitter. > > > Read More ? Gizmodo > > TikTok bans hit more U.S. states; security firm says most access blocked > globally > > > State agencies in Louisiana and West Virginia on Monday became the latest > to ban the use of the popular social media service TikTok on > government-managed devices over concern that China could use it to track > Americans and censor content. > > > Read More ? Reuters > > Delta will reportedly make its in-flight Wi-Fi free > > > Delta Air Lines is reportedly planning to make in-flight Wi-Fi free on a > ?significant portion? of its planes starting early next year. > > > Read More ? The Verge > > ------------------------------ > Need a Keynoter, Host or Moderator? > > > I would welcome the opportunity to speak at your next event. > > Learn > more. > > > About The Palmer Group > > > The Palmer Group works on Web3 strategy and solutions with Fortune 500 > companies like Samsung, Ford, Verizon, Meta, ComcastNBCU, PepsiCo, Walt > Disney, Charter, Nike, Oracle, Travelers, Delta Air Lines, Paramount, > Mastercard, and GSK to name a few. Please contact us to learn how we can > help you leverage the power and promise of Web3. > > > Read More ? The Palmer Group > > ------------------------------ > > *Please Note: I am not a financial advisor. Nothing contained herein should > be considered financial advice. If you are considering any type of > investment you should conduct your own research and, if necessary, seek the > advice of a licensed financial advisor. CES? is the registered trademark of > The Consumer Technology Association.? 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USA > > -- > > -- > Frieda Werden, Series Producer > WINGS: Women's International News Gathering Service > email: wings at wings.org and? wingsradionews at gmail.com? > Facebook news feed: https://www.facebook.com/wingsradio > To contribute funds: https://www.paypal.me/wingsradio > websites: www.wings.org (historic) > New site being rebuilt at: wingsradio.org/wordpress > Older editions gradually being archived ?on archive.org > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc From tracy at media-alliance.org Thu Dec 22 12:17:05 2022 From: tracy at media-alliance.org (Tracy Rosenberg) Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2022 12:17:05 -0800 Subject: [grc] AI Hiding In Plain Sight In-Reply-To: <1fc80fb22f1d73cfc24fe9efe4fc1013@whidbey.com> References: <1fc80fb22f1d73cfc24fe9efe4fc1013@whidbey.com> Message-ID: While the temptations of automation are real, and I know how grueling audio editing can be, the introduction of AI into editing software has all kinds of potential negatives. The way that AI works is that the systems have to be "trained" on voices and much of the way this has been done is by snatching smart speaker commands without the permission and consent of the users (or the kind of permission layered in dense privacy policies that no one reads or understands). The things also regularly record people in their homes when people don't intend to be recorded. These both constitute significant privacy abuses. Additionally, the technology in a broader sense is being developed in pursuit of voice and emotion recognition, a set of technologies that have chilling implications in the hands of law enforcement and are already in use in some prison facilities. To bring it back to radio use, there would seem to be a few issues. One is accents, and both errors caused by accents the AI is not familiar with, and the connotations of "smoothing" language out in a way developed by largely white and asian male programmers which may change the way people express themselves. This also applies to the disabled and the neurodivergent. Human judgment is probably better suited to make close calls between authenticity and comprehensibility than an AI. What I think one can be sure of is that the technology will come out first and the problems will be revealed later. So buyer beware and always consider the possible downsides of new gee whiz technologies. Best, Tracy Rosenberg Media Alliance On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 12:49 PM Tom Voorhees wrote: > Tracy, If you could outline the possible AI user risks to the below? Ann, > Frieda or myself could post your response to the GRC list. Thanks, Tom. > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: [grc] Fwd: AI Hiding In Plain Sight > Date: 2022-12-21 09:10 > From: Frieda Werden via grc > To: GRC list > Reply-To: Frieda Werden > > > "Adobe released Project Podcast, a free AI-powered audio processing tool > that can enhance voice recordings, making them sound like recordings made > in a professional audio studio. " > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: Shelly Palmer > Date: Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 8:16 AM > Subject: AI Hiding In Plain Sight > To: > > > This is absolutely the year of AI, and the announcements are just going to > keep on coming. > ShellyPalmer > < > https://shellypalmer.us3.list-manage.com/track/click?u=c45bf0ae5539b15b901766ddd&id=3a389af3d0&e=4c30b7e32a > > > > Think About This > > Wednesday, December 21, 2022 > > There are a bunch of AI announcements in the news today. OpenAI is > releasing Point-E, which is like DALL-E but for 3D modeling. Its resolution > isn't great, but it's up to two magnitudes faster than competing systems. > Adobe released Project Podcast, a free AI-powered audio processing tool > that can enhance voice recordings, making them sound like recordings made > in a professional audio studio. Google announced a research project for an > app that can read a prescription written in "doctor's handwriting" and > figure out what the doctor was trying to prescribe. (Details for each > below.) > > This is absolutely the year of AI, and the announcements are just going to > keep on coming. One of the biggest opportunities for value creation in the > next few years will be companies that leverage the base layers provided by > large language models and finely tune highly-specialized middle layers > above them. Think of it as training (educating) workers, then renting them > out to other companies. The startup thesis for 2023? Find an existing > problem or inefficiency you can solve by fine tuning a large language > model, then turn the solution into a SaaS. So exciting!!! -s > > P.S. Are you going to CES 2023? If so, there are still a few openings left > for live tech briefings and floor tours on Saturday. We've also got an > unlimited number of openings for online post-CES tech briefings; these > one-hour Zoom sessions are custom-created for your business and can be > scheduled at your convenience. Learn more > < > https://shellypalmer.us3.list-manage.com/track/click?u=c45bf0ae5539b15b901766ddd&id=b887aab25a&e=4c30b7e32a > > > . > ------------------------------ > Today's Most Interesting Stories OpenAI releases Point-E, which is like > DALL-E but for 3D modeling > < > https://shellypalmer.us3.list-manage.com/track/click?u=c45bf0ae5539b15b901766ddd&id=08c13753c4&e=4c30b7e32a > > > > OpenAI, the Elon Musk-founded artificial intelligence startup behind > popular DALL-E text-to-image generator, announced on Tuesday the release of > its newest picture-making machine POINT-E, which can produce 3D point > clouds directly from text prompts. > < > https://shellypalmer.us3.list-manage.com/track/click?u=c45bf0ae5539b15b901766ddd&id=bfdbda9f9b&e=4c30b7e32a > > > > Read More ? Engadget > < > https://shellypalmer.us3.list-manage.com/track/click?u=c45bf0ae5539b15b901766ddd&id=149e7e0b3c&e=4c30b7e32a > > > Shelly's Blog: How Far Can AI Go? > < > https://shellypalmer.us3.list-manage.com/track/click?u=c45bf0ae5539b15b901766ddd&id=c9b65c86a3&e=4c30b7e32a > > > > If you haven't already uploaded your 10-to-20 selfies to Lensa and let it > turn you into a superhero, or a rock star, or an astronaut, you should give > it a try. It's fun, but it's also instructive. You'll learn about the type > and quality of inputs generative AI needs in order to obtain satisfactory > results, and you'll experience the workflow and process of consumer-grade > generative AI. But most importantly, when the model transforms you into a > mystical creature in a cosmic setting, or an anime character, or a cyborg, > you will find yourself asking one question: How far can this technology go? > < > https://shellypalmer.us3.list-manage.com/track/click?u=c45bf0ae5539b15b901766ddd&id=1aa04d5d45&e=4c30b7e32a > > > > Read More ? Shelly Palmer > < > https://shellypalmer.us3.list-manage.com/track/click?u=c45bf0ae5539b15b901766ddd&id=32df6e0a28&e=4c30b7e32a > > > Google can now read your doctor's bad handwriting > < > https://shellypalmer.us3.list-manage.com/track/click?u=c45bf0ae5539b15b901766ddd&id=516e4367bb&e=4c30b7e32a > > > > A number of doctors write medicine prescriptions in haste. Google says it > is working with pharmacists to work out that handwriting. > < > https://shellypalmer.us3.list-manage.com/track/click?u=c45bf0ae5539b15b901766ddd&id=923d3b8827&e=4c30b7e32a > > > > Read More ? TechCrunch > < > https://shellypalmer.us3.list-manage.com/track/click?u=c45bf0ae5539b15b901766ddd&id=448f25b713&e=4c30b7e32a > > > > < > https://shellypalmer.us3.list-manage.com/track/click?u=c45bf0ae5539b15b901766ddd&id=6cbb32acc4&e=4c30b7e32a > > > Make your noisy recording sound like pro audio with Adobe's free AI tool > < > https://shellypalmer.us3.list-manage.com/track/click?u=c45bf0ae5539b15b901766ddd&id=189f799ca5&e=4c30b7e32a > > > > Recently, Adobe released a free AI-powered audio processing tool that can > enhance some poor-quality voice recordings by removing background noise and > making the voice sound stronger. When it works, the result sounds like a > recording made in a professional sound booth with a high-quality > microphone. > < > https://shellypalmer.us3.list-manage.com/track/click?u=c45bf0ae5539b15b901766ddd&id=23e18e99f4&e=4c30b7e32a > > > > Read More ? 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USA > > -- > -- Tracy Rosenberg Executive Director Media Alliance 2830 20th Street Suite 201 San Francisco, CA 94110 https://media-alliance.org Email: tracy at media-alliance.org 415-746-9475 (office) 510-684-6853 (cell) Encrypted email at tracy.rosenberg at protonmail.com Text via Signal Pronouns: She/Her/Hers - From juice at whidbey.com Thu Dec 22 12:41:11 2022 From: juice at whidbey.com (Tom Voorhees) Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2022 12:41:11 -0800 Subject: [grc] AI Hiding In Plain Sight In-Reply-To: References: <1fc80fb22f1d73cfc24fe9efe4fc1013@whidbey.com> Message-ID: Response from Tracy as below, who has investigated the AI negatives for many years. -Tom. On 2022-12-22 12:17, Tracy Rosenberg wrote: > While the temptations of automation are real, and I know how grueling audio editing can be, the introduction of AI into editing software has all kinds of potential negatives. The way that AI works is that the systems have to be "trained" on voices and much of the way this has been done is > by snatching smart speaker commands without the permission and consent of the users (or the kind of permission layered in dense privacy policies that no one reads or understands). The things also regularly record people in their homes when people don't intend to be recorded. > These both constitute significant privacy abuses. Additionally, the technology in a broader sense is being developed in pursuit of voice and emotion recognition, a set of technologies that have chilling implications in the hands of law enforcement and are already in use in > some prison facilities. > > To bring it back to radio use, there would seem to be a few issues. One is accents, and both errors caused by accents the AI is not familiar with, and the connotations of "smoothing" language out in a way developed by largely white and asian male programmers which may > change the way people express themselves. This also applies to the disabled and the neurodivergent. Human judgment is probably better suited to make close calls between authenticity and comprehensibility than an AI. > > What I think one can be sure of is that the technology will come out first and the problems will be revealed later. So buyer beware and always consider the possible downsides of new gee whiz technologies. > > Best, > > Tracy Rosenberg > Media Alliance > > On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 12:49 PM Tom Voorhees wrote: > >> Tracy, If you could outline the possible AI user risks to the below? Ann, Frieda or myself could post your response to the GRC list. Thanks, Tom. >> >> -------- Original Message -------- >> >> SUBJECT: >> [grc] Fwd: AI Hiding In Plain Sight >> >> DATE: >> 2022-12-21 09:10 >> >> FROM: >> Frieda Werden via grc >> >> TO: >> GRC list >> >> REPLY-TO: >> Frieda Werden >> >> "Adobe released Project Podcast, a free AI-powered audio processing tool >> that can enhance voice recordings, making them sound like recordings made >> in a professional audio studio. " >> >> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >> From: Shelly Palmer >> Date: Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 8:16 AM >> Subject: AI Hiding In Plain Sight >> To: >> >> This is absolutely the year of AI, and the announcements are just going to >> keep on coming. >> ShellyPalmer >> >> >> Think About This >> >> Wednesday, December 21, 2022 >> >> There are a bunch of AI announcements in the news today. OpenAI is >> releasing Point-E, which is like DALL-E but for 3D modeling. Its resolution >> isn't great, but it's up to two magnitudes faster than competing systems. >> Adobe released Project Podcast, a free AI-powered audio processing tool >> that can enhance voice recordings, making them sound like recordings made >> in a professional audio studio. Google announced a research project for an >> app that can read a prescription written in "doctor's handwriting" and >> figure out what the doctor was trying to prescribe. (Details for each >> below.) >> >> This is absolutely the year of AI, and the announcements are just going to >> keep on coming. One of the biggest opportunities for value creation in the >> next few years will be companies that leverage the base layers provided by >> large language models and finely tune highly-specialized middle layers >> above them. Think of it as training (educating) workers, then renting them >> out to other companies. The startup thesis for 2023? Find an existing >> problem or inefficiency you can solve by fine tuning a large language >> model, then turn the solution into a SaaS. So exciting!!! -s >> >> P.S. Are you going to CES 2023? If so, there are still a few openings left >> for live tech briefings and floor tours on Saturday. We've also got an >> unlimited number of openings for online post-CES tech briefings; these >> one-hour Zoom sessions are custom-created for your business and can be >> scheduled at your convenience. Learn more >> >> . >> ------------------------------ >> Today's Most Interesting Stories OpenAI releases Point-E, which is like >> DALL-E but for 3D modeling >> >> >> OpenAI, the Elon Musk-founded artificial intelligence startup behind >> popular DALL-E text-to-image generator, announced on Tuesday the release of >> its newest picture-making machine POINT-E, which can produce 3D point >> clouds directly from text prompts. >> >> >> Read More ? Engadget >> >> Shelly's Blog: How Far Can AI Go? >> >> >> If you haven't already uploaded your 10-to-20 selfies to Lensa and let it >> turn you into a superhero, or a rock star, or an astronaut, you should give >> it a try. It's fun, but it's also instructive. You'll learn about the type >> and quality of inputs generative AI needs in order to obtain satisfactory >> results, and you'll experience the workflow and process of consumer-grade >> generative AI. But most importantly, when the model transforms you into a >> mystical creature in a cosmic setting, or an anime character, or a cyborg, >> you will find yourself asking one question: How far can this technology go? >> >> >> Read More ? Shelly Palmer >> >> Google can now read your doctor's bad handwriting >> >> >> A number of doctors write medicine prescriptions in haste. Google says it >> is working with pharmacists to work out that handwriting. >> >> >> Read More ? TechCrunch >> >> >> >> Make your noisy recording sound like pro audio with Adobe's free AI tool >> >> >> Recently, Adobe released a free AI-powered audio processing tool that can >> enhance some poor-quality voice recordings by removing background noise and >> making the voice sound stronger. When it works, the result sounds like a >> recording made in a professional sound booth with a high-quality microphone. >> >> >> Read More ? Ars Technica >> >> Elon Musk says he'll step down as Twitter CEO, but won't sell the company >> >> >> Elon Musk has said that he will step down as CEO of Twitter once a suitable >> replacement can be found. >> >> >> Read More ? Engadget >> >> Report: YouTube to pay $2.5 billion per year for Sunday Ticket >> >> >> YouTube is closing in on a deal for Sunday Ticket, the out-of-market >> package that DirecTV has exclusively broadcast since 1994, when it debuted. >> John Ourand of Sports Business Journal reports that YouTube will pay $2.5 >> billion per year for the package. >> >> >> Read More ? ProFootballTalk >> >> >> >> ChatGPT Has Infiltrated Twitter Replies >> >> >> The now popular text-producing AI is reportedly being used to engage with >> users on Twitter. >> >> >> Read More ? Gizmodo >> >> TikTok bans hit more U.S. states; security firm says most access blocked >> globally >> >> >> State agencies in Louisiana and West Virginia on Monday became the latest >> to ban the use of the popular social media service TikTok on >> government-managed devices over concern that China could use it to track >> Americans and censor content. >> >> >> Read More ? Reuters >> >> Delta will reportedly make its in-flight Wi-Fi free >> >> >> Delta Air Lines is reportedly planning to make in-flight Wi-Fi free on a >> "significant portion" of its planes starting early next year. >> >> >> Read More ? The Verge >> >> ------------------------------ >> Need a Keynoter, Host or Moderator? >> >> >> I would welcome the opportunity to speak at your next event. >> >> Learn >> more. >> >> >> About The Palmer Group >> >> >> The Palmer Group works on Web3 strategy and solutions with Fortune 500 >> companies like Samsung, Ford, Verizon, Meta, ComcastNBCU, PepsiCo, Walt >> Disney, Charter, Nike, Oracle, Travelers, Delta Air Lines, Paramount, >> Mastercard, and GSK to name a few. Please contact us to learn how we can >> help you leverage the power and promise of Web3. >> >> >> Read More ? The Palmer Group >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *Please Note: I am not a financial advisor. Nothing contained herein should >> be considered financial advice. 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USA >> >> -- > > -- > > Tracy Rosenberg > Executive Director > Media Alliance > 2830 20th Street Suite 201 > San Francisco, CA 94110 > https://media-alliance.org [1] > Email: tracy at media-alliance.org > 415-746-9475 (office) > 510-684-6853 (cell) > Encrypted email at tracy.rosenberg at protonmail.com > Text via Signal > Pronouns: She/Her/Hers > > - Links: ------ [1] http://www.media-alliance.org From juice at whidbey.com Fri Dec 30 12:43:17 2022 From: juice at whidbey.com (Tom Voorhees) Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2022 12:43:17 -0800 Subject: [grc] Archive Request - 2018 GRC - How to create a local newscast In-Reply-To: References: <02075e6c-5b49-3565-59a9-307d41ccc99b@effectivedefense.org> <28d142a24505717fd2fa827a5242f182@whidbey.com> <05aa0012-fda2-b931-2ce1-d9f7a1eed791@effectivedefense.org> <003401d91c15$998520f0$cc8f62d0$@c-map.org> Message-ID: <51733e93aa802034914fbee6a77657e3@whidbey.com> GRC, Spencer, Ann and all, Per the below retrieved files. Do we have a GRC member with the capacity to download and post all the 2018 GRC recordings to a common GRC site with sufficient storage capacity and easy access? Here is the single retrieved post to the Pacifica Foundation YouTube site; How to create a local newscast. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FU2Gf75yT0w. Thanks to all those of you who helped track this down. I'm glad we got it posted to the site because I'm sure there are still small stations?some new and some who weren't represented at this GRC?who would like to develop a newscast. -Ann & Tom. On Thu, Dec 29, 2022 at 10:42 PM Ann Garrison wrote: What I'm posting to the Pacifica Foundation YouTube channel is the memorable workshop with Leigh Robartes, Yuko Kodama, and Eric Tegethoff about how to create a local newscast at the 2018 GRC in Portland I asked for the file because someone new to uploading content to the Pacifica Network asked me about it and took particular interest when I mentioned KRFP-Radio Free Moscow. He asked me about KRFP's story and I told him what I knew, including that the town was named by a Russian immigrant who started a trading post there in the 1890s. I said that Leigh had given this fascinating presentation at the 2018 GRC and I'd see if I could track it down. Now that I have it seems like a good thing to post to the Pacifica Foundation YouTube channel. I have one question in mind as I listen to this again. Many of those present were from stations that didn't have a newscast and wanted to get one going. Leigh Robartes offered to train anyone who could get to Moscow and manage to stay long enough to do some training. I'm wondering whether anyone ever took him up on that and whether any local newscasts got off the ground with help from this workshop. Does anyone know? I'm adding Leigh and Ursula to the address bar. Only Ann's requested On 2022-12-30 01:39, Spencer Graves wrote: > Hi, Ann et al.: > > > I also have videos and audio files from the first two days. Do you > want any of those? > > > I was more inspired by Lisa Loving's two presentations than by what > Leigh and others said in that round table. I can upload the material > from the previous two days, but I'm close to the free limit for Google > Drive, and I don't know that I have the space to do it without > deleting some of what I have there. > > > Regarding Moscow, I felt, perhaps incorrectly, that what Leigh was > doing in Moscow was a bigger commitment than we could reasonably > expect from a typical volunteer. > > > The message I got from Lisa made more sense to me: Hire a > journalist to design and manage a training program, offer regular > training. Maybe 5 percent of those you train will volunteer to help > produce news. The other 95 percent do other things for the station. > That's enough to keep it going. I've so far been unable so far to > raise money to pay a professional journalist to manage something like > that for KKFI in Kansas City. I launched a training program that we > offered training in Audacity and interviewing on three Saturdays, 2-3 > months apart. Then COVID killed that. I tried to keep it going via > Zoom but got zero support, and it died. However, KKFI now a training > committee that has been working since before COVID to design a > curriculum. They now have a deadline of the end of January to produce > training for "Program Associate", which allows someone to produce > content for KKFI. They are also working to produce training for > "board operator". That contains much more material and is not as far > along. > > > Comments? > > > Spencer > > > On 12/30/22 12:42 AM, Ann Garrison wrote: >> What I'm posting to the Pacifica Foundation YouTube channel is the >> memorable workshop with Leigh Robartes, Yuko Kodama, and Eric >> Tegethoff about how to create a local newscast at the 2018 GRC in >> Portland? I asked for the file because someone new to uploading >> content to the Pacifica Network asked me about it and took particular >> interest when I mentioned KRFP-Radio Free Moscow. He asked me about >> KRFP's story and I told him what I knew, including that the town was >> named by a Russian immigrant who started a trading post there in the >> 1890s. I said that Leigh had given this fascinating presentation at >> the 2018 GRC and I'd see if I could track it down. Now that I have it >> seems like a good thing to post to the Pacifica Foundation YouTube >> channel. >> >> I have one question in mind as I listen to this again. Many of those >> present were from stations that didn't have a newscast and wanted to >> get one going. Leigh Robartes offered to train anyone who could get to >> Moscow and manage to stay long enough to do some training. I'm >> wondering whether anyone ever took him up on that and whether any >> local newscasts got off the ground with help from this workshop. Does >> anyone know?? I'm adding Leigh and Ursula to the address bar. >> >> >> On Thu, Dec 29, 2022 at 10:11 PM Betty McArdle > > wrote: >> >> Hi Spencer, >> >> The file says I do not permission to view the file so I cannot be >> positive.? Wade Rathke was our closing day keynote speaker so it >> is >> possible that file is his presentation. >> >> Betty McArdle >> CMAP >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Spencer Graves > > >> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2022 3:30 PM >> To: Tom Voorhees > >> Cc: anniegarrison at gmail.com ; >> Tracy >> Rosenberg > >; Marianne Edain >> >; >> betty at c-map.org >> Subject: Re: Archive Request - update 2018 GRC >> >> Hello, All: >> >> >> ? ? ? ? ? See: >> >> >> >> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/17p5tODVXQqHbeFouwnmUm6c5kYyF8Rfp?usp=sharing >> >> >> >> ? ? ? ? ? Am I correct that the presenter in "MAH02057.MP4" is >> Wade >> Rathke? >> >> >> ? ? ? ? ? The Wikipedia article on him does not have a photo.? If >> you have a photo of him you'd like to have included in that >> article, >> let me know. >> The process is that you have to upload it to Wikimedia Commons.? I >> can help you do it, e.g., in a Zoom session.? However, I cannot do >> it for you because the people who support Wikipedia and other >> Wikimedia Foundation projects are justifiably paranoid about being >> shut down for copyright violations.? Alternatively, I can extract >> is >> still from that short video and use that. >> >> >> ? ? ? ? ? Comments? >> ? ? ? ? ? Best Wishes, >> ? ? ? ? ? Spencer Graves >> m:? 408-655-4567 >> >> >> On 12/29/22 4:35 PM, Tom Voorhees wrote: >> > Thanks again Spencer! >> > >> > If you could find the time to download the below five files >> from >> > October 7, 2018 and forward to all copied above, it would be >> greatly >> > appreciated by Ann and myself.? ?-Tom. >> > >> > On 2022-12-29 13:09, Tom Voorhees wrote: >> > >> >> Thanks Betty and Spencer, Tracy as copied was able to locate >> the >> >> desired audio version of the requested video via the way back >> machine >> >> as attached below from the GRC of Sunday October 7, 2018 >> starting at >> >> 9:15 am.? ? -Tom. >> >> >> >> Leigh, KRFP is the first of three segments. >> >> >> >> *Local Radio News Programming* >> >> >> >> Tom Voorhees-Moderator; Panelists: Leigh Robartes, Yuko >> Kodama, >> Eric >> >> Tegethoff >> >> >> >> With commercial local news quality rapidly deteriorating from >> most >> >> sources, it's time for local community radio stations to >> consider >> >> filling the gap with news we can trust. This panel discussion >> with >> >> two smaller local station news directors and an experienced >> >> investigative reporter, will encourage you to start up your >> own >> local >> >> radio news programming. Local to international trustable news >> sources >> >> will be shared along with local news gathering and production >> skills. >> >> >> >> Audio File Attached ... >> >> >> >> LocalRadioNewsProgramming.mp3 >> >> >> >> > >> >> ew?usp=drive_web> >> >> >> >> On 2022-12-28 20:09, Tom Voorhees wrote: >> >> >> >>? ? ?Hi Betty, Need your assistance locating the time and date >> of my >> >>? ? ?news workshop at the last GRC in Portland? >> >> >> >>? ? ?Attempting to choose video files as below by Spencer >> Graves as >> >>? ? ?copied of the news workshop i hosted >> >> >> >>? ? ?On 2022-12-28 18:55, Ann Garrison wrote: >> >> >> >>? ? ? ? ?All I'm looking for is Leigh Robartes talk about KRFP. >> Or if >> >>? ? ? ? ?he was on a panel, I'd like the panel. This is for >> someone >> >>? ? ? ? ?taking an interest in KRFP. >> >> >> >>? ? ? ? ?On Wed, Dec 28, 2022 at 5:46 PM Spencer Graves >> >>? ? ? ? ?> >> >>? ? ? ? ?> >> wrote: >> >> >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?Hi, Ann and Tom: >> >> >> >> >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?I've found 3 folders totaling 21.57 GB, >> which is >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?more than I know how >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?to easily transfer to you.? This includes 36 video >> files >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?in three >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?folders by date: >> >> >> >> >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?DATE? ? ? FILES? ?GB >> >> >> >> >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?Oct5? ? ? 13? ? ? 9.21 >> >> >> >> >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?Oct6? ? ? 17? ? ? 6.77 >> >> >> >> >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?Oct7? ? ? ?6? ? ? 5.58 >> >> >> >> >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?total? ? ?36? ? ?21.57 >> >> >> >> >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Below please find more info on the >> contents of >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?these three folders: >> >> >> >> >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?total 0 >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?drwxr-xr-x? 15 sg? staff? 480 Dec 28 19:12 >> 2018-10-05 >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?drwxr-xr-x? 19 sg? staff? 608 Dec 28 19:13 >> 2018-10-06 >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?drwxr-xr-x? ?8 sg? staff? 256 Dec 28 19:13 >> 2018-10-07 >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?-rw-r--r--? ?1 sg? staff? ? 0 Dec 28 19:43 GRC.txt >> >> >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?./2018-10-05: >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?total 17994648 >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?-rwxrwxrwx? 1 sg? staff? ?755591822 Oct? 5? 2018 >> 4CH010I.wav >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?-rwxrwxrwx? 1 sg? staff? ?755591822 Oct? 5? 2018 >> 4CH010M.wav >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?-rwxrwxrwx? 1 sg? staff? ?867011534 Oct? 5? 2018 >> 4CH011I.wav >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?-rwxrwxrwx? 1 sg? staff? ?867011534 Oct? 5? 2018 >> 4CH011M.wav >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?-rwxrwxrwx@ 1 sg? staff? ?755591822 Oct? 5? 2018 >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?ClyburnPanel2018-10-05.wav >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?-rwxrwxrwx@ 1 sg? staff? ? 16026820 Oct? 5? 2018 >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?ClyburnPanel2018-10-05a.MP4 >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?-rwxrwxrwx@ 1 sg? staff? ? ?4610569 Oct? 5? 2018 >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?ClyburnPanel2018-10-05b.MP4 >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?-rwxrwxrwx@ 1 sg? staff? ?838251150 Oct? 5? 2018 >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?Loving-cellphoneJournalism2018-10-05.wav >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?-rwxrwxrwx@ 1 sg? staff? 1709457713 Oct? 5? 2018 >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?Loving2018-10-05.MP4 >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?-rwxrwxrwx@ 1 sg? staff? ?867011534 Oct? 5? 2018 >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?Security2018-10-05.wav >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?-rwxrwxrwx@ 1 sg? staff? 1775285786 Oct? 5? 2018 >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?ThreatModeling2018-10-05.MP4 >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?-rwxrwxrwx@ 1 sg? staff? ? ?1796212 Oct? 5? 2018 >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?safeSpacePolicy.MP4 >> >> >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?./2018-10-06: >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?total 13224560 >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?-rwxrwxrwx? 1 sg? staff? ? ? 675214 Oct? 6? 2018 >> 4CH012M.wav >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?-rwxrwxrwx? 1 sg? staff? ? 71636622 Oct? 6? 2018 >> 4CH013M.wav >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?-rwxrwxrwx? 1 sg? staff? ?719037390 Oct? 6? 2018 >> 4CH014M.wav >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?-rwxrwxrwx? 1 sg? staff? ?712919438 Oct? 6? 2018 >> 4CH015M.wav >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?-rwxrwxrwx? 1 sg? staff? ?472545678 Oct? 6? 2018 >> 4CH016M.wav >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?-rwxrwxrwx@ 1 sg? staff? ? 12938352 Oct? 6? 2018 >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?KBOOpanel2018-10-06a.MP4 >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?-rwxrwxrwx@ 1 sg? staff? ? ?6270656 Oct? 6? 2018 >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?KBOOpanel2018-10-06b.MP4 >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?-rwxrwxrwx@ 1 sg? staff? ? ?4488411 Oct? 6? 2018 >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?KBOOpanel2018-10-06c.MP4 >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?-rwxrwxrwx@ 1 sg? staff? ? ?7637535 Oct? 6? 2018 >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?KBOOpanel2018-10-06d.MP4 >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?-rwxrwxrwx@ 1 sg? staff? ? ?8860298 Oct? 6? 2018 >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?KBOOpanel2018-10-06e.MP4 >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?-rwxrwxrwx@ 1 sg? staff? ? ?7169116 Oct? 6? 2018 >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?KBOOtower2018-10-06a.MP4 >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?-rwxrwxrwx@ 1 sg? staff? ? ? 442053 Oct? 6? 2018 >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?KBOOtower2018-10-06b.MP4 >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?-rwxrwxrwx@ 1 sg? staff? ? ?6546530 Oct? 6? 2018 >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?KBOOtower2018-10-06c.MP4 >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?-rwxrwxrwx@ 1 sg? staff? 1733696181 Oct? 6? 2018 >> MAH02047.MP4 >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?-rwxrwxrwx@ 1 sg? staff? 1498920104 Oct? 6? 2018 >> MAH02051.MP4 >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?-rwxrwxrwx@ 1 sg? staff? 1488360742 Oct? 6? 2018 >> >> MAH02052.MP4 >> >> >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?./2018-10-07: >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?total 10904368 >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?-rwxrwxrwx? 1 sg? staff? 1036822670 Oct? 7? 2018 >> 4CH017M.wav >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?-rwxrwxrwx? 1 sg? staff? ?804225166 Oct? 7? 2018 >> 4CH018M.wav >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?-rwxrwxrwx? 1 sg? staff? 1986161166 Oct? 7? 2018 >> MAH02055.MP4 >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?-rwxrwxrwx? 1 sg? staff? 1721292358 Oct? 7? 2018 >> MAH02056.MP4 >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?-rwxrwxrwx? 1 sg? staff? ? 34523083 Oct? 7? 2018 >> >> MAH02057.MP4 >> >> >> >> >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Which files do you what?? If only a few, >> I can >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?upload them to my >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?Google Drive.? If more, we need to research how to >> get >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?them to you. >> >> >> >> >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Best Wishes, >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Spencer Graves >> >> >> >> >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?########## >> >> >> >> >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?Thanks for your interest.? I will reply but maybe >> not >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?today or tomorrow. >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?I just want you to know that I've received your >> email, >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?and I plan to >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?do what you asked.? Spencer Graves >> >> >> >> >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?On 12/28/22 1:08 AM, Ann Garrison wrote: >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?> I just wanted to share the video with Max >> Blumenthal, >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?whose Grayzone >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?> highlights hour has begun airing at 5 pm >> Tuesdays at >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?KPFK. Max is Editor >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?> of The Grayzone > >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?> >>.? He's learning that he can >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?> upload the show to Audioport and make it >> available to >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?stations around >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?> the country and he's intrigued by that. The 200+ >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?Pacifica affiliates >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?> seems to be something he wasn't much aware of, >> and he >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?asked me what the >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?> story of KRFP-Moscow is. I told him a few things >> I >> know >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?and said I'd see >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?> if I could get hold of Leigh's talk at the >> Portland GRC >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?and send it to him. >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?> >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?> I'm not going to broadcast it or anything like >> that, >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?just want to send >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?> it to someone who asked me about KRFP's story. >> I'm >> a big >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?KRFP fan, so I >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?> had mentioned it to him. >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?> >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?> On Tue, Dec 27, 2022 at 10:56 PM Tom Voorhees >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ? >> > >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?> > > >>> >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?wrote: >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?> >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?>? ? ?Hi Spencer, >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?> >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?>? ? ?Could you share again with Ann as copied and >> myself, >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?the video you >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?>? ? ?took at the Portland GRC of my news >> workshop? As I >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?recall it was a link. >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?> >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?>? ? ?Ann can explain the use she intends. >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?> >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?>? ? ?Thanks in advance.? ?-Tom. >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?> >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?> >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?> >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?> >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?> >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?> -- >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?> Sincerely, >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?> @AnnGarrison >> > >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?> >> >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?> Independent Journalist, >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?> SKYPE: Ann Garrison, Oakland >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?> 415-503-7487 >> >>? ? ? ? ? ? ?> >> >> >> >> >> >>? ? ? ? ?-- >> >>? ? ? ? ?Sincerely, >> >>? ? ? ? ?@AnnGarrison > > >> >>? ? ? ? ?Independent Journalist, >> >>? ? ? ? ?SKYPE: Ann Garrison, Oakland >> >>? ? ? ? ?415-503-7487 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> -- Sincerely, >> @AnnGarrison >> Independent Journalist, >> SKYPE: Ann Garrison, Oakland >> 415-503-7487 >> From sirius at pacifica.org Fri Dec 30 14:38:56 2022 From: sirius at pacifica.org (Sirius_Pacifica_Org) Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2022 17:38:56 -0500 Subject: [grc] Archive Request - 2018 GRC - How to create a local newscast In-Reply-To: <51733e93aa802034914fbee6a77657e3@whidbey.com> References: <02075e6c-5b49-3565-59a9-307d41ccc99b@effectivedefense.org> <28d142a24505717fd2fa827a5242f182@whidbey.com> <05aa0012-fda2-b931-2ce1-d9f7a1eed791@effectivedefense.org> <003401d91c15$998520f0$cc8f62d0$@c-map.org> <51733e93aa802034914fbee6a77657e3@whidbey.com> Message-ID: <1962EA19-E9DA-44E9-B57E-37097535849F@pacifica.org> Hi Tom, GRC, Spencer, Ann, Betty, Sharon and All, Pacifica would like to help out with this project, to explore your needs for transfer/hosting services. Please have someone contact me and/or Otis McClay to discuss bandwidth and storage considerations. Have a Happy New Year, Jon --------------------------------------------------------------- Jon Almeleh Director of Engineering and Compliance Pacifica Foundation, Inc. 973-710-8173 > On Dec 30, 2022, at 3:43 PM, Tom Voorhees via grc wrote: > > GRC, Spencer, Ann and all, > Per the below retrieved files. Do we have a GRC member with the capacity to download and post all the 2018 GRC recordings to a common GRC site with sufficient storage capacity and easy access? > > Here is the single retrieved post to the Pacifica Foundation YouTube site; How to create a local newscast. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FU2Gf75yT0w. > > Thanks to all those of you who helped track this down. I'm glad we got it posted to the site because I'm sure there are still small stations?some new and some who weren't represented at this GRC?who would like to develop a newscast. -Ann & Tom. > > On Thu, Dec 29, 2022 at 10:42 PM Ann Garrison wrote: > What I'm posting to the Pacifica Foundation YouTube channel is the memorable workshop with Leigh Robartes, Yuko Kodama, and Eric Tegethoff about how to create a local newscast at the 2018 GRC in Portland I asked for the file because someone new to uploading content to the Pacifica Network asked me about it and took particular interest when I mentioned KRFP-Radio Free Moscow. He asked me about KRFP's story and I told him what I knew, including that the town was named by a Russian immigrant who started a trading post there in the 1890s. I said that Leigh had given this fascinating presentation at the 2018 GRC and I'd see if I could track it down. Now that I have it seems like a good thing to post to the Pacifica Foundation YouTube channel. > > I have one question in mind as I listen to this again. Many of those present were from stations that didn't have a newscast and wanted to get one going. Leigh Robartes offered to train anyone who could get to Moscow and manage to stay long enough to do some training. I'm wondering whether anyone ever took him up on that and whether any local newscasts got off the ground with help from this workshop. Does anyone know? I'm adding Leigh and Ursula to the address bar. > > Only Ann's requested > > On 2022-12-30 01:39, Spencer Graves wrote: >> Hi, Ann et al.: >> I also have videos and audio files from the first two days. Do you >> want any of those? >> I was more inspired by Lisa Loving's two presentations than by what >> Leigh and others said in that round table. I can upload the material >> from the previous two days, but I'm close to the free limit for Google >> Drive, and I don't know that I have the space to do it without >> deleting some of what I have there. >> Regarding Moscow, I felt, perhaps incorrectly, that what Leigh was >> doing in Moscow was a bigger commitment than we could reasonably >> expect from a typical volunteer. >> The message I got from Lisa made more sense to me: Hire a >> journalist to design and manage a training program, offer regular >> training. Maybe 5 percent of those you train will volunteer to help >> produce news. The other 95 percent do other things for the station. >> That's enough to keep it going. I've so far been unable so far to >> raise money to pay a professional journalist to manage something like >> that for KKFI in Kansas City. I launched a training program that we >> offered training in Audacity and interviewing on three Saturdays, 2-3 >> months apart. Then COVID killed that. I tried to keep it going via >> Zoom but got zero support, and it died. However, KKFI now a training >> committee that has been working since before COVID to design a >> curriculum. They now have a deadline of the end of January to produce >> training for "Program Associate", which allows someone to produce >> content for KKFI. They are also working to produce training for >> "board operator". That contains much more material and is not as far >> along. >> Comments? >> Spencer >> On 12/30/22 12:42 AM, Ann Garrison wrote: >>> What I'm posting to the Pacifica Foundation YouTube channel is the memorable workshop with Leigh Robartes, Yuko Kodama, and Eric Tegethoff about how to create a local newscast at the 2018 GRC in Portland I asked for the file because someone new to uploading content to the Pacifica Network asked me about it and took particular interest when I mentioned KRFP-Radio Free Moscow. He asked me about KRFP's story and I told him what I knew, including that the town was named by a Russian immigrant who started a trading post there in the 1890s. I said that Leigh had given this fascinating presentation at the 2018 GRC and I'd see if I could track it down. Now that I have it seems like a good thing to post to the Pacifica Foundation YouTube channel. >>> I have one question in mind as I listen to this again. Many of those present were from stations that didn't have a newscast and wanted to get one going. Leigh Robartes offered to train anyone who could get to Moscow and manage to stay long enough to do some training. I'm wondering whether anyone ever took him up on that and whether any local newscasts got off the ground with help from this workshop. Does anyone know? I'm adding Leigh and Ursula to the address bar. >>> On Thu, Dec 29, 2022 at 10:11 PM Betty McArdle > wrote: >>> Hi Spencer, >>> The file says I do not permission to view the file so I cannot be >>> positive. Wade Rathke was our closing day keynote speaker so it is >>> possible that file is his presentation. >>> Betty McArdle >>> CMAP >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Spencer Graves >> > >>> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2022 3:30 PM >>> To: Tom Voorhees > >>> Cc: anniegarrison at gmail.com ; Tracy >>> Rosenberg >> >; Marianne Edain >>> >; >>> betty at c-map.org >>> Subject: Re: Archive Request - update 2018 GRC >>> Hello, All: >>> See: >>> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/17p5tODVXQqHbeFouwnmUm6c5kYyF8Rfp?usp=sharing >>> Am I correct that the presenter in "MAH02057.MP4" is Wade >>> Rathke? >>> The Wikipedia article on him does not have a photo. If >>> you have a photo of him you'd like to have included in that article, >>> let me know. >>> The process is that you have to upload it to Wikimedia Commons. I >>> can help you do it, e.g., in a Zoom session. However, I cannot do >>> it for you because the people who support Wikipedia and other >>> Wikimedia Foundation projects are justifiably paranoid about being >>> shut down for copyright violations. Alternatively, I can extract is >>> still from that short video and use that. >>> Comments? >>> Best Wishes, >>> Spencer Graves >>> m: 408-655-4567 >>> On 12/29/22 4:35 PM, Tom Voorhees wrote: >>> > Thanks again Spencer! >>> > >>> > If you could find the time to download the below five files from >>> > October 7, 2018 and forward to all copied above, it would be greatly >>> > appreciated by Ann and myself. -Tom. >>> > >>> > On 2022-12-29 13:09, Tom Voorhees wrote: >>> > >>> >> Thanks Betty and Spencer, Tracy as copied was able to locate the >>> >> desired audio version of the requested video via the way back >>> machine >>> >> as attached below from the GRC of Sunday October 7, 2018 starting at >>> >> 9:15 am. -Tom. >>> >> >>> >> Leigh, KRFP is the first of three segments. >>> >> >>> >> *Local Radio News Programming* >>> >> >>> >> Tom Voorhees-Moderator; Panelists: Leigh Robartes, Yuko Kodama, >>> Eric >>> >> Tegethoff >>> >> >>> >> With commercial local news quality rapidly deteriorating from most >>> >> sources, it's time for local community radio stations to consider >>> >> filling the gap with news we can trust. This panel discussion with >>> >> two smaller local station news directors and an experienced >>> >> investigative reporter, will encourage you to start up your own >>> local >>> >> radio news programming. Local to international trustable news >>> sources >>> >> will be shared along with local news gathering and production >>> skills. >>> >> >>> >> Audio File Attached ... >>> >> >>> >> LocalRadioNewsProgramming.mp3 >>> >> >>> >>> >> ew?usp=drive_web> >>> >> >>> >> On 2022-12-28 20:09, Tom Voorhees wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Hi Betty, Need your assistance locating the time and date of my >>> >> news workshop at the last GRC in Portland? >>> >> >>> >> Attempting to choose video files as below by Spencer Graves as >>> >> copied of the news workshop i hosted >>> >> >>> >> On 2022-12-28 18:55, Ann Garrison wrote: >>> >> >>> >> All I'm looking for is Leigh Robartes talk about KRFP. Or if >>> >> he was on a panel, I'd like the panel. This is for someone >>> >> taking an interest in KRFP. >>> >> >>> >> On Wed, Dec 28, 2022 at 5:46 PM Spencer Graves >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Hi, Ann and Tom: >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> I've found 3 folders totaling 21.57 GB, >>> which is >>> >> more than I know how >>> >> to easily transfer to you. This includes 36 video files >>> >> in three >>> >> folders by date: >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> DATE FILES GB >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Oct5 13 9.21 >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Oct6 17 6.77 >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Oct7 6 5.58 >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> total 36 21.57 >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Below please find more info on the contents of >>> >> these three folders: >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> total 0 >>> >> drwxr-xr-x 15 sg staff 480 Dec 28 19:12 2018-10-05 >>> >> drwxr-xr-x 19 sg staff 608 Dec 28 19:13 2018-10-06 >>> >> drwxr-xr-x 8 sg staff 256 Dec 28 19:13 2018-10-07 >>> >> -rw-r--r-- 1 sg staff 0 Dec 28 19:43 GRC.txt >>> >> >>> >> ./2018-10-05: >>> >> total 17994648 >>> >> -rwxrwxrwx 1 sg staff 755591822 Oct 5 2018 >>> 4CH010I.wav >>> >> -rwxrwxrwx 1 sg staff 755591822 Oct 5 2018 >>> 4CH010M.wav >>> >> -rwxrwxrwx 1 sg staff 867011534 Oct 5 2018 >>> 4CH011I.wav >>> >> -rwxrwxrwx 1 sg staff 867011534 Oct 5 2018 >>> 4CH011M.wav >>> >> -rwxrwxrwx@ 1 sg staff 755591822 Oct 5 2018 >>> >> ClyburnPanel2018-10-05.wav >>> >> -rwxrwxrwx@ 1 sg staff 16026820 Oct 5 2018 >>> >> ClyburnPanel2018-10-05a.MP4 >>> >> -rwxrwxrwx@ 1 sg staff 4610569 Oct 5 2018 >>> >> ClyburnPanel2018-10-05b.MP4 >>> >> -rwxrwxrwx@ 1 sg staff 838251150 Oct 5 2018 >>> >> Loving-cellphoneJournalism2018-10-05.wav >>> >> -rwxrwxrwx@ 1 sg staff 1709457713 Oct 5 2018 >>> >> Loving2018-10-05.MP4 >>> >> -rwxrwxrwx@ 1 sg staff 867011534 Oct 5 2018 >>> >> Security2018-10-05.wav >>> >> -rwxrwxrwx@ 1 sg staff 1775285786 Oct 5 2018 >>> >> ThreatModeling2018-10-05.MP4 >>> >> -rwxrwxrwx@ 1 sg staff 1796212 Oct 5 2018 >>> >> safeSpacePolicy.MP4 >>> >> >>> >> ./2018-10-06: >>> >> total 13224560 >>> >> -rwxrwxrwx 1 sg staff 675214 Oct 6 2018 >>> 4CH012M.wav >>> >> -rwxrwxrwx 1 sg staff 71636622 Oct 6 2018 >>> 4CH013M.wav >>> >> -rwxrwxrwx 1 sg staff 719037390 Oct 6 2018 >>> 4CH014M.wav >>> >> -rwxrwxrwx 1 sg staff 712919438 Oct 6 2018 >>> 4CH015M.wav >>> >> -rwxrwxrwx 1 sg staff 472545678 Oct 6 2018 >>> 4CH016M.wav >>> >> -rwxrwxrwx@ 1 sg staff 12938352 Oct 6 2018 >>> >> KBOOpanel2018-10-06a.MP4 >>> >> -rwxrwxrwx@ 1 sg staff 6270656 Oct 6 2018 >>> >> KBOOpanel2018-10-06b.MP4 >>> >> -rwxrwxrwx@ 1 sg staff 4488411 Oct 6 2018 >>> >> KBOOpanel2018-10-06c.MP4 >>> >> -rwxrwxrwx@ 1 sg staff 7637535 Oct 6 2018 >>> >> KBOOpanel2018-10-06d.MP4 >>> >> -rwxrwxrwx@ 1 sg staff 8860298 Oct 6 2018 >>> >> KBOOpanel2018-10-06e.MP4 >>> >> -rwxrwxrwx@ 1 sg staff 7169116 Oct 6 2018 >>> >> KBOOtower2018-10-06a.MP4 >>> >> -rwxrwxrwx@ 1 sg staff 442053 Oct 6 2018 >>> >> KBOOtower2018-10-06b.MP4 >>> >> -rwxrwxrwx@ 1 sg staff 6546530 Oct 6 2018 >>> >> KBOOtower2018-10-06c.MP4 >>> >> -rwxrwxrwx@ 1 sg staff 1733696181 Oct 6 2018 >>> MAH02047.MP4 >>> >> -rwxrwxrwx@ 1 sg staff 1498920104 Oct 6 2018 >>> MAH02051.MP4 >>> >> -rwxrwxrwx@ 1 sg staff 1488360742 Oct 6 2018 >>> >> MAH02052.MP4 >>> >> >>> >> ./2018-10-07: >>> >> total 10904368 >>> >> -rwxrwxrwx 1 sg staff 1036822670 Oct 7 2018 >>> 4CH017M.wav >>> >> -rwxrwxrwx 1 sg staff 804225166 Oct 7 2018 >>> 4CH018M.wav >>> >> -rwxrwxrwx 1 sg staff 1986161166 Oct 7 2018 >>> MAH02055.MP4 >>> >> -rwxrwxrwx 1 sg staff 1721292358 Oct 7 2018 >>> MAH02056.MP4 >>> >> -rwxrwxrwx 1 sg staff 34523083 Oct 7 2018 >>> >> MAH02057.MP4 >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Which files do you what? If only a few, I can >>> >> upload them to my >>> >> Google Drive. If more, we need to research how to get >>> >> them to you. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Best Wishes, >>> >> Spencer Graves >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> ########## >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Thanks for your interest. I will reply but maybe not >>> >> today or tomorrow. >>> >> I just want you to know that I've received your email, >>> >> and I plan to >>> >> do what you asked. Spencer Graves >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On 12/28/22 1:08 AM, Ann Garrison wrote: >>> >> > I just wanted to share the video with Max Blumenthal, >>> >> whose Grayzone >>> >> > highlights hour has begun airing at 5 pm Tuesdays at >>> >> KPFK. Max is Editor >>> >> > of The Grayzone >> >>> >> >> >>. He's learning that he can >>> >> > upload the show to Audioport and make it available to >>> >> stations around >>> >> > the country and he's intrigued by that. The 200+ >>> >> Pacifica affiliates >>> >> > seems to be something he wasn't much aware of, and he >>> >> asked me what the >>> >> > story of KRFP-Moscow is. I told him a few things I >>> know >>> >> and said I'd see >>> >> > if I could get hold of Leigh's talk at the >>> Portland GRC >>> >> and send it to him. >>> >> > >>> >> > I'm not going to broadcast it or anything like that, >>> >> just want to send >>> >> > it to someone who asked me about KRFP's story. I'm >>> a big >>> >> KRFP fan, so I >>> >> > had mentioned it to him. >>> >> > >>> >> > On Tue, Dec 27, 2022 at 10:56 PM Tom Voorhees >>> >> >>> > >>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> >> wrote: >>> >> > >>> >> > Hi Spencer, >>> >> > >>> >> > Could you share again with Ann as copied and >>> myself, >>> >> the video you >>> >> > took at the Portland GRC of my news workshop? As I >>> >> recall it was a link. >>> >> > >>> >> > Ann can explain the use she intends. >>> >> > >>> >> > Thanks in advance. -Tom. >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > -- >>> >> > Sincerely, >>> >> > @AnnGarrison >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> > Independent Journalist, >>> >> > SKYPE: Ann Garrison, Oakland >>> >> > 415-503-7487 >>> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> Sincerely, >>> >> @AnnGarrison >> > >>> >> Independent Journalist, >>> >> SKYPE: Ann Garrison, Oakland >>> >> 415-503-7487 >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> > >>> -- Sincerely, >>> @AnnGarrison >>> Independent Journalist, >>> SKYPE: Ann Garrison, Oakland >>> 415-503-7487 > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc