[grc] Weird new audio editing software

[Spencer Graves]

Hi, Frieda et al.:


	  I've not used Trebble.  I'll be interested in the reports.


	  I've been using I've been using computer transcription for a few 
years now.  From that I get time stamps to the nearest second.  I record 
where I want to cut in spreadsheet software like MS Excel, LibreOffice 
Calc or Google Sheet and compute the times to keep and to cut.  Then I 
switch to Audacity to get cut points to the nearest hundredths of a 
second and modify the spreadsheet as I edit.


	  An example transcript with the accompanying audio file is available at:


https://otter.ai/u/7eRY0BzhugBlyu5FPXteeWdfKoc


	  The spreadsheet edit plan I created for that transcript is at:


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19h4QyJMHK2VqmD_FmAG55HcQ3e8q4Fu5zMjot9XlRf0/edit?usp=sharing


	  The podcast I created from that is available at:


https://kkfi.org/program-episodes/kc-homeless-union-and-hope-for-the-homeless-project-2/


	  I started using Trint but switched to Otter.ai.  I need to identify 
the speakers, but I often only have to identify the first few times each 
speaker talks, because Otter.ai does moderately well at identifying 
subsequent orations by the same speaker -- and makes it easy for me to 
correct the speaker.  The transcript is not good enough to publish but 
is good enough to use for timing, usually.  Occasionally, Otter.ai gets 
the times out of order.  It allows me to download the transcript with 
speakers and time in, e.g., docx format.  Sadly, it sometimes 
incorrectly marks the times, then sorts the segments in the wrong order 
when I download the transcript.  Then I have to manually correct that 
problem.


	  Doing this may be more labor intensive than it should be.  Yesterday, 
I recorded an interview of just over an hour and needed to cut it to 28 
minutes.  I ran out of time to complete my editing plan before broadcast 
time at 6 PM Central, so the result was 28:31 mm:ss;  I had two or three 
more cuts I wanted to make but gave up.


	  Otter.ai offers a free service for files that are no more than 30 
minutes each up to a total of 300 minutes per month.  I have a paid 
account for $8.33 per month, up to 90 minutes per recording and a total 
of 1200 minutes per month.


	  And I sometimes use this to create a complete transcript with time 
stamps, e.g.:


https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Social_construction_of_crime_and_what_we_can_do_about_it


	  However, cleaning up a transcript and adding links and references 
like this can take another day or three.  And without serious 
references, it's not suitable for Wikiversity.


	  I'm willing to believe that there are better options both in terms of 
the transcription service and easier editing like Trebble.  I've heard 
of a service that supports editing videos like this, but I can't 
remember it's name.  I haven't tried it but probably should.


	  Comments?
	  Spencer Graves



On 12/7/22 12:33 AM, Frieda Werden via grc wrote:
> https://youtu.be/5ah0IoZCIxI
> It's called Trebble.  It lets you edit audio from its transcription.  Also
> has a suite of effects.  Canada's national campus and community radio
> association has partnered with Trebble and is offering discounts for its
> members.  They are recommending it for beginner editors.  I think it likely
> there will be a zombie-like quality to audio edited this way - but it might
> be useful as a way to start cutting down longer pieces.  I haven't tried
> it, but I might attend their demonstration workshop.  It also says it lets
> you capture audio from your website....
>