From mike at brownbroadcast.com Fri Aug 4 23:07:35 2023 From: mike at brownbroadcast.com (Michael D. Brown) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2023 23:07:35 -0700 Subject: [grc] Radio for People Zoom Call - Tuesday August 8 10AM PDT / 1PM EDT Message-ID: <000001d9c763$22d45210$687cf630$@brownbroadcast.com> Radio for People Zoom Call - Tuesday, August 8, 10AM PDT / 1PM EDT Same Zoom link as last month. The link is not posted publicly. For a link to the meeting: betty at c-map.org Agenda (in progress) --FCC Updates Freeze on changes to existing LPFMs and translators, Sept 1 EAS National Test October 4 Biennial Ownership Report window: Oct 2 to Dec 1 13 Franken FMs approved - no others will be allowed FCC rejects (again) expanding FM band down to 82MHz --FCC Grants --Senate Committee approves the nomination of Anna Gomez --Station Updates --Conferences and Training GRC conference updates Michael D. Brown Brown Broadcast Services, Inc. 3740 SW Comus St. ? Portland OR 97219-7418 USA mike at brownbroadcast.com ? www.brownbroadcast.com offc 503-245-6065 ? cell 503-703-3202 From damon at wtsq.org Sat Aug 5 14:34:34 2023 From: damon at wtsq.org (damon) Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2023 17:34:34 -0400 Subject: [grc] Radio for People Zoom Call - Tuesday August 8 10AM PDT / 1PM EDT In-Reply-To: <000001d9c763$22d45210$687cf630$@brownbroadcast.com> Message-ID: <64cec070.0c0a0220.bf704.6e53@mx.google.com> I'm happy to attend and update on the grc.? Please forward link.??Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S8 Active, an AT&T 5G Evolution capable smartphone -------- Original message --------From: "Michael D. Brown via grc" Date: 8/5/23 2:07 AM (GMT-05:00) To: nceorg at lists.prometheusradio.org, _GRC list Subject: [grc] Radio for People Zoom Call - Tuesday August 8 10AM PDT / 1PM EDT Radio for People Zoom Call -? Tuesday,? August 8, 10AM PDT / 1PM EDTSame Zoom link as last month.The link is not posted publicly.? For a link to the meeting:betty at c-map.org Agenda (in progress)--FCC Updates??????????? Freeze on changes to existing LPFMs and translators, Sept 1??????????? EAS National Test October 4??????????? Biennial Ownership Report window: Oct 2 to Dec 1??????????? 13 Franken FMs approved - no others will be allowed??????????? FCC rejects (again) expanding FM band down to 82MHz--FCC Grants--Senate Committee approves the nomination of Anna Gomez--Station Updates--Conferences and Training??????????? GRC conference updatesMichael D. BrownBrown Broadcast Services, Inc.3740 SW Comus St. ? Portland OR 97219-7418 USA mike at brownbroadcast.com? ??? www.brownbroadcast.comoffc 503-245-6065 ? cell 503-703-3202_______________________________________________grc mailing listgrc at maillist.peak.orghttp://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc From mike at brownbroadcast.com Mon Aug 7 09:11:10 2023 From: mike at brownbroadcast.com (Michael D. Brown) Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2023 09:11:10 -0700 Subject: [grc] Radio for People Zoom Call - TOMORROW - Tuesday, August 8, 10AM PDT / 1PM EDT Message-ID: <004501d9c949$c84f5c20$58ee1460$@brownbroadcast.com> Radio for People Zoom Call - Tuesday, August 8, 10AM PDT / 1PM EDT Same Zoom link as last month. The link is not posted publicly. For a link to the meeting: betty at c-map.org Agenda (in progress) --FCC Updates Freeze on changes to existing LPFMs and translators, Sept 1 EAS National Test October 4 Review and update Form 1 by September 15 Forms 2 and 3 will be due after the test Biennial Ownership Report window: Oct 2 to Dec 1 13 Franken FMs approved - no others will be allowed FCC rejects (again) expanding FM band down to 82MHz --FCC Grants --Senate Committee approves the nomination of Anna Gomez --Station Updates --Conferences and Training GRC conference updates Michael D. Brown Brown Broadcast Services, Inc. 3740 SW Comus St. ? Portland OR 97219-7418 USA mike at brownbroadcast.com ? www.brownbroadcast.com offc 503-245-6065 ? cell 503-703-3202 From jrorozco932 at gmail.com Mon Aug 7 10:07:01 2023 From: jrorozco932 at gmail.com (Joseph Orozco) Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2023 10:07:01 -0700 Subject: [grc] Radio for People Zoom Call - TOMORROW - Tuesday, August 8, 10AM PDT / 1PM EDT In-Reply-To: <004501d9c949$c84f5c20$58ee1460$@brownbroadcast.com> References: <004501d9c949$c84f5c20$58ee1460$@brownbroadcast.com> Message-ID: I am sorry I cannot make this meeting. I have a pre-arranged meeting with our Tribal Council starting at 10 am PT to 4 PM. On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at 9:11?AM Michael D. Brown via grc < grc at maillist.peak.org> wrote: > Radio for People Zoom Call - Tuesday, August 8, 10AM PDT / 1PM EDT > > > > > > Same Zoom link as last month. > > The link is not posted publicly. For a link to the meeting: > > betty at c-map.org > > > > Agenda (in progress) > > > > --FCC Updates > > Freeze on changes to existing LPFMs and translators, Sept 1 > > EAS National Test October 4 > > Review and update Form 1 by September 15 > > Forms 2 and 3 will be due after the test > > Biennial Ownership Report window: Oct 2 to Dec 1 > > 13 Franken FMs approved - no others will be allowed > > FCC rejects (again) expanding FM band down to 82MHz > > --FCC Grants > > --Senate Committee approves the nomination of Anna Gomez > > --Station Updates > > --Conferences and Training > > GRC conference updates > > > > > > > > > > Michael D. Brown > Brown Broadcast Services, Inc. > 3740 SW Comus St. ? Portland OR 97219-7418 USA > mike at brownbroadcast.com ? . > brownbroadcast.com> www.brownbroadcast.com > offc 503-245-6065 ? cell 503-703-3202 > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > -- Joseph R. Orozco 530-739-2684 mobil# PO Box 932 Hoopa,CA 95546 From loonfoot at gmail.com Tue Aug 8 05:00:10 2023 From: loonfoot at gmail.com (Robert Park) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2023 07:00:10 -0500 Subject: [grc] Station automation with RSS feeds Message-ID: Some years ago I followed the lead of another Wisconsin LPFM station and started using Juice for our station's RSS downloads to our broadcast computer. It still works reliably for some things but not for others. For example we automatically download and broadcast Democracy Now every weekday morning using it, and Juice deletes the file a day later. However, for two feeds from Public News Service it works for the 6 min daily newscast but not for their newer 2023Talks feed - https://feeds.libsyn.com/206553/rss. (Our broadcast software is Zara Radio and the broadcast computer is running Windows 7 home edition.) What are other stations currently using for automated broadcast of RSS feeds? From mae at recnet.com Tue Aug 8 05:12:29 2023 From: mae at recnet.com (Michelle Bradley) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2023 08:12:29 -0400 Subject: [grc] Station automation with RSS feeds In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4fc0776b-2d75-5390-5278-a5ed3dbe3fa4@recnet.com> For our stations on Rivendell, this is how we do it: https://recnet.com/rivendell-import-rss For PlayoutONE, there is an XML importer function requires specific entries in File Importer. We get our feed of 2023Talks using the Audioport RSS URL. =m On 8/8/2023 8:00 AM, Robert Park via grc wrote: > Some years ago I followed the lead of another Wisconsin LPFM station and > started using Juice for our station's RSS downloads to our broadcast > computer. It still works reliably for some things but not for others. For > example we automatically download and broadcast Democracy Now every weekday > morning using it, and Juice deletes the file a day later. However, for two > feeds from Public News Service it works for the 6 min daily newscast but > not for their newer 2023Talks feed -https://feeds.libsyn.com/206553/rss. > (Our broadcast software is Zara Radio and the broadcast computer is running > Windows 7 home edition.) What are other stations currently using for > automated broadcast of RSS feeds? > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc -- *Michelle Bradley, CBT, KU3N* /Founder: REC Networks/ +1 202 621-2355 https://recnet.com facebook.com/recnet - Twitter: @michichan From wbdy at bundymuseum.org Tue Aug 8 06:59:11 2023 From: wbdy at bundymuseum.org (WBDY 99.5 FM Binghamton Community Radio) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2023 09:59:11 -0400 Subject: [grc] Station automation with RSS feeds In-Reply-To: <4fc0776b-2d75-5390-5278-a5ed3dbe3fa4@recnet.com> References: <4fc0776b-2d75-5390-5278-a5ed3dbe3fa4@recnet.com> Message-ID: We use RDFetch for our Rivendell station. It's created and maintained by David Klann (broadcasttool.com). On Tue, Aug 8, 2023 at 8:12?AM Michelle Bradley via grc < grc at maillist.peak.org> wrote: > For our stations on Rivendell, this is how we do it: > https://recnet.com/rivendell-import-rss > > For PlayoutONE, there is an XML importer function requires specific > entries in File Importer. > > We get our feed of 2023Talks using the Audioport RSS URL. > > =m > > > On 8/8/2023 8:00 AM, Robert Park via grc wrote: > > Some years ago I followed the lead of another Wisconsin LPFM station > and > > started using Juice for our station's RSS downloads to our broadcast > > computer. It still works reliably for some things but not for others. For > > example we automatically download and broadcast Democracy Now every > weekday > > morning using it, and Juice deletes the file a day later. However, for > two > > feeds from Public News Service it works for the 6 min daily newscast but > > not for their newer 2023Talks feed -https://feeds.libsyn.com/206553/rss. > > (Our broadcast software is Zara Radio and the broadcast computer is > running > > Windows 7 home edition.) What are other stations currently using for > > automated broadcast of RSS feeds? > > _______________________________________________ > > grc mailing list > > grc at maillist.peak.org > > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > -- > *Michelle Bradley, CBT, KU3N* > /Founder: REC Networks/ > +1 202 621-2355 > https://recnet.com > facebook.com/recnet - Twitter: @michichan > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > From gm at artxfm.com Tue Aug 8 07:03:20 2023 From: gm at artxfm.com (Sharon Scott) Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2023 10:03:20 -0400 Subject: [grc] IMPT: Help LPFMs extend their reach! - File comments by Aug. 8 @ midnight ET In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6caac29f02c735af9e64e4c40fdfee37@artxfm.com> Forwarded from Todd Urick of Common Frequency -------- Original Message -------- Subject: FCC Proposed Rule Making Pertinent to LPFM Date: 2023-08-08 01:40 From: Todd Urick To: Todd Urick If you are affiliated with a non-commercial or LPFM radio station and your station ever wanted to apply for a FM translator* (*_a licensed FM transmitter to re-broadcast you main station signal to either extend your station, or fix interference issues_), you may consider submitting a _Reply Comment_ to the FCC by Wednesday August 9 (due by the end of the day, midnight eastern time) concerning Proposed Rulemaking RM-11952. This proposed rulemaking asks the FCC to enact policies that limit speculators in applying for FM translators (for profiteering purposes), and asks to provide more opportunity for non-commercial and LPFM broadcasters to apply for FM translators (the next FM translator filing window, anticipated in the next couple years). _You might consider filing a comment to the FCC:_ - Stating you are in favor of limitations on mass FM translator filers and speculation. - Tell the FCC that the next FM translator filing window should be designated for LPFM and non-commercial stations only. Commercial broadcasters have been given ample opportunities within the last three translator filing windows (two filing windows for translators for AM stations in 2017, and a filing window in 2003). - LPFM has never had an opportunity to file for FM translators. NCE stations have not had an opportunity for decades. - LPFM faces many signal problems. LPFM licensees have asked the FCC for years for signal relief without any opportunity up to this point. Tell the FCC your station's signal problems. - NCE and LPFM community stations have fringe areas where no other local community stations serve. It would be in the local public interest to extend those signals to fringe areas with a FM translator. - If you really want to get into the finer points of the rule-making, read below at "BACKGROUND" (recommended). You can file an ECFS comment with the FCC here: https://www.fcc.gov/ecfs/filings/standard You can choose _STANDARD FILING_ (attach PDF that you wrote) or _EXPRESS COMMENT _(write a comment into blank on the FCC site) Under "Proceeding" enter RM-11952 BACKGROUND: In August 2022 LPFM advocate REC Networks ("REC") filed the "Translator Reform" petition for rulemaking with the FCC. Recently, the FCC has opened a window for comments on the proposal, which is currently in the Reply-Comments stage. REC has proposed to the FCC policies to prevent the same trafficking and gamesmanship that followed the last FM translator filing opportunity ("filing window", or "Auction") in 2003. In this FCC Auction, several speculators filed dozen(s) to hundreds of applications for new FM translators on speculation, to merely sell for profit. In 2017 there were two more FM translator filing windows (for new translators) for AM licensees to apply to rebroadcast their AM stations on FM. During this filing window, the FCC ignored following the mandate of the Local Community Radio Act ("LCRA"), which required the FCC to save channels for future LPFM filing opportunities. Because of this, there are not that many frequencies left in cities for LPFM or new translators (major cities have no open channels). REC proposes restrictions within the next FM translator filing window which places limitations on the resale of FM translators, requires more disclosure of attributable interest, filing caps, and other mild limitations. REC also asks the FCC (for LPFM licensees) to eliminate the LPFM to FM translator contour overlap requirement (which is untenable), replace the 10/20 mile market-dependent distance restrictions for a translator owned by a LPFM with a 25-mile restriction, and other small adjustments. REC proposes an enhanced protection system of protecting LPFM openings in the FM band from being claimed by translators via a ?disparity factor" regimen. REC requests for the next FM translator file window be designated for LPFM and NCE stations to apply for translators between 88.1 FM - 91.9 FM. Non-commercial/LPFM advocates Common Frequency has submitted a comment that aggressively asks the FCC for much stronger protocols for the next FM translator filing window that _favors local non-commercial NCE and LPFM stations_. This list includes: - Filing caps don't work to keep speculators from applying for large amounts of FM translators and reselling them. - In the last two FM translator filing windows, where AM stations were allowed to apply for FM translators, the FCC did not comply with the LCRA. Much more stringent measures are needed to save room for LPFM and NCE FM translators. - Commercial radio licensees do not need another opportunity to file for more FM translators because they have had ample opportunities to do so. It is time to open an opportunity for only LPFM and NCE FM to apply for FM translators, because: (a) There has been no or little opportunity for them to apply in the last two decades (b) Both services have a dire need to fix signal interference issues and extend their local programming to other communities. Specific policies or actions CF recommends include: (1) Limiting the number of applications to five by any entity to prevent speculation. (2) The filer should be in the proximity of the proposed new FM translator. Or rebroadcast a station that can be received off-the-air (_not via satellite or internet_ -- to dissuade national networks). (3) The next filing window should be for nonprofits, LFPM, and non-commercial stations only. The FCC should allow applicants to propose translators anywhere on the FM band, _not just 88.1 FM -91.9 FM._ (4) Translators applied for by LPFM licensees should have no 60 dBu overlap or distance-to-headquarters requirement. These measures stifle the amelioration of complex interference and signal issues. (5) Applicants should provide a brief narrative of the "intention of use" for a newly-proposed FM translator. This should deter speculators. (6) The FCC should modify the "FCC point system" (this system designates the highest point-receiver as the winner of a radio channel if multiple applicants apply for the same channel). (a) A point should be given for a broadcaster with a local studio creating local programming. (b) A point should be given to broadcasters that currently do not own any translators and are only applying for one translator. (c) Change the "establish local" point. This affords points to applicants that have been around two years applying for a translator within 25 miles of their station. However, for full power community and public stations, they may want to apply for a translator more than 25 miles away. The proposal allows these NCE applicants to claim local points if it is within the 40 dBu fringe contour of their station which shares a common headquarters for the entity. (d) Do away with the translator "technical superiority" point system. The FCC usually rewards the proposal that maximizes use of spectrum (large coverage areas). Although this subject matter is difficult to explain, "technical superiority" usually rewards the dominant broadcaster who has access to the best tower site, and does not use spectrum strategically. You can read REC's proposal and Common Frequency's comments via the links below CF's Comment https://www.fcc.gov/ecfs/document/107270843413704/1 REC's Proposed Rulemaking: Well-summarized by REC here: _https://recnet.com/node/3849_ and the proposed rulemaking as submitted: https://www.fcc.gov/ecfs/document/1072672306591/1 Thanks Todd Common Frequency From mae at recnet.com Tue Aug 8 07:07:55 2023 From: mae at recnet.com (Michelle Bradley) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2023 10:07:55 -0400 Subject: [grc] IMPT: Help LPFMs extend their reach! - File comments by Aug. 8 @ midnight ET In-Reply-To: <6caac29f02c735af9e64e4c40fdfee37@artxfm.com> References: <6caac29f02c735af9e64e4c40fdfee37@artxfm.com> Message-ID: <947c96f6-5b97-bf3f-4ed1-aadd769ddc83@recnet.com> Correction to the link to the REC summary of the Translator Reform petition for rulemaking. https://recnet.com/node/3849 =m On 8/8/2023 10:03 AM, Sharon Scott via grc wrote: > Forwarded from Todd Urick of Common Frequency > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: FCC Proposed Rule Making Pertinent to LPFM > Date: 2023-08-08 01:40 > From: Todd Urick > To: Todd Urick > > If you are affiliated with a non-commercial or LPFM radio station and > your station ever wanted to apply for a FM translator* (*_a licensed FM > transmitter to re-broadcast you main station signal to either extend > your station, or fix interference issues_), you may consider submitting > a _Reply Comment_ to the FCC by Wednesday August 9 (due by the end of > the day, midnight eastern time) concerning Proposed Rulemaking RM-11952. > ?This proposed rulemaking asks the FCC to enact policies that limit > speculators in applying for FM translators (for profiteering purposes), > and asks to provide more opportunity for non-commercial and LPFM > broadcasters to apply for FM translators (the next FM translator filing > window, anticipated in the next couple years). > > _You might consider filing a comment to the FCC:_ > > - Stating you are in favor of limitations on mass FM translator filers > and speculation. > > - Tell the FCC that the next FM translator filing window should be > designated for LPFM and non-commercial stations only.? Commercial > broadcasters have been given ample opportunities within the last three > translator filing windows (two filing windows for translators for AM > stations in 2017, and a filing window in 2003). > > - LPFM has never had an opportunity to file for FM translators. NCE > stations have not had an opportunity for decades. > > - LPFM faces many signal problems.? LPFM licensees have asked the FCC > for years for signal relief without any opportunity up to this point. > Tell the FCC your station's signal problems. > > - NCE and LPFM community stations have fringe areas where no other local > community stations serve.? It would be in the local public interest to > extend those signals to fringe areas with a FM translator. > > - If you really want to get into the finer points of the rule-making, > read below at "BACKGROUND" (recommended). > > You can file an ECFS comment with the FCC here: > https://www.fcc.gov/ecfs/filings/standard > > You can choose _STANDARD FILING_ (attach PDF that you wrote) or _EXPRESS > COMMENT _(write a comment into blank on the FCC site) > > Under "Proceeding" enter RM-11952 > > BACKGROUND: > > In August 2022 LPFM advocate REC Networks ("REC") filed the "Translator > Reform" petition for rulemaking with the FCC.? Recently, the FCC has > opened a window for comments on the proposal, which is currently in the > Reply-Comments stage.? REC has proposed to the FCC policies to prevent > the same trafficking and gamesmanship that followed the last FM > translator filing opportunity ("filing window", or "Auction") in 2003. > In this FCC Auction, several speculators filed dozen(s) to hundreds of > applications for new FM translators on speculation, to merely sell for > profit. > > In 2017 there were two more FM translator filing windows (for new > translators) for AM licensees to apply to rebroadcast their AM stations > on FM.? During this filing window, the FCC ignored following the mandate > of the Local Community Radio Act ("LCRA"), which required the FCC to > save channels for future LPFM filing opportunities.? Because of this, > there are not that many frequencies left in cities for LPFM or new > translators (major cities have no open channels). > > REC proposes restrictions within the next FM translator filing window > which places limitations on the resale of FM translators, requires more > disclosure of attributable interest, filing caps, and other mild > limitations.? REC also asks the FCC (for LPFM licensees) to eliminate > the LPFM to FM translator contour overlap requirement (which is > untenable), replace the 10/20 mile market-dependent distance > restrictions for a translator owned by a LPFM with a 25-mile > restriction, and other small adjustments.? REC proposes an enhanced > protection system of protecting LPFM openings in the FM band from being > claimed by translators via a ?disparity factor" regimen. > > REC requests for the next FM translator file window be designated for > LPFM and NCE stations to apply for translators between 88.1 FM - 91.9 > FM. > > Non-commercial/LPFM advocates Common Frequency has submitted a comment > that aggressively asks the FCC for much stronger protocols for the next > FM translator filing window that _favors local non-commercial NCE and > LPFM stations_.? This list includes: > > - Filing caps don't work to keep speculators from applying for large > amounts of FM translators and reselling them. > > - In the last two FM translator filing windows, where AM stations were > allowed to apply for FM translators, the FCC did not comply with the > LCRA.? Much more stringent measures are needed to save room for LPFM and > NCE FM translators. > > - Commercial radio licensees do not need another opportunity to file for > more FM translators because they have had ample opportunities to do so. > It is time to open an opportunity for only LPFM and NCE FM to apply for > FM translators, because: > > (a) There has been no or little opportunity for them to apply in the > last two decades > > (b) Both services have a dire need to fix signal interference issues and > extend their local programming to other communities. > > Specific policies or actions CF recommends include: > > (1) Limiting the number of applications to five by any entity to prevent > speculation. > > (2) The filer should be in the proximity of the proposed new FM > translator.? Or rebroadcast a station that can be received off-the-air > (_not via satellite or internet_ -- to dissuade national networks). > > (3) The next filing window should be for nonprofits, LFPM, and > non-commercial stations only.? The FCC should allow applicants to > propose translators anywhere on the FM band, _not just 88.1 FM -91.9 > FM._ > > (4) Translators applied for by LPFM licensees should have no 60 dBu > overlap or distance-to-headquarters requirement.? These measures stifle > the amelioration of complex interference and signal issues. > > (5) Applicants should provide a brief narrative of the "intention of > use" for a newly-proposed FM translator.? This should deter speculators. > > (6) The FCC should modify the "FCC point system" (this system designates > the highest point-receiver as the winner of a radio channel if multiple > applicants apply for the same channel). > > ?? (a) A point should be given for a broadcaster with a local studio > creating local programming. > > ?? (b) A point should be given to broadcasters that currently do not own > any translators and are only applying for one translator. > > ?? (c) Change the "establish local" point.? This affords points to > applicants that have been around two years applying for a translator > within 25 miles of their station.? However, for full power community and > public stations, they may want to apply for a translator more than 25 > miles away.? The proposal allows these NCE applicants to claim local > points if it is within the 40 dBu fringe contour of their station which > shares a common headquarters for the entity. > > ?? (d) Do away with the translator "technical superiority" point system. > The FCC usually rewards the proposal that maximizes use of spectrum > (large coverage areas).? Although this subject matter is difficult to > explain, "technical superiority" usually rewards the dominant > broadcaster who has access to the best tower site, and does not use > spectrum strategically. > > You can read REC's proposal and Common Frequency's comments via the > links below > > CF's Comment https://www.fcc.gov/ecfs/document/107270843413704/1 > > REC's Proposed Rulemaking: Well-summarized by REC here: > _https://recnet.com/node/3849_ and the proposed rulemaking as submitted: > https://www.fcc.gov/ecfs/document/1072672306591/1 > > Thanks > > Todd > Common Frequency > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc -- *Michelle Bradley, CBT, KU3N* /Founder: REC Networks/ +1 202 621-2355 https://recnet.com facebook.com/recnet - Twitter: @michichan From mike at brownbroadcast.com Tue Aug 8 07:53:45 2023 From: mike at brownbroadcast.com (Michael D. Brown) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2023 07:53:45 -0700 Subject: [grc] TODAY: Radio for People Zoom Call - Tuesday, August 8, 10AM PDT / 1PM EDT Message-ID: <004001d9ca08$21bd3f20$6537bd60$@brownbroadcast.com> Radio for People Zoom Call - TODAY Tuesday, August 8, 10AM PDT / 1PM EDT Same Zoom link as last month. The link is not posted publicly. For a link to the meeting: betty at c-map.org < mailto: betty at c-map.org> Agenda --FCC Updates Freeze on changes to existing LPFMs and translators, Sept 1 EAS National Test October 4 Review and update Form 1 by September 15 Forms 2 and 3 will be due after the test Biennial Ownership Report window: Oct 2 to Dec 1 13 Franken FMs approved - no others will be allowed FCC rejects (again) expanding FM band down to 82MHz Translator Reform RM-11952 - reply commends due by tomorrow (Aug 9) --FCC Grants --Senate Committee approves the nomination of Anna Gomez --Station Updates --Conferences and Training GRC conference updates Michael D. Brown Brown Broadcast Services, Inc. 3740 SW Comus St. ? Portland OR 97219-7418 USA mike at brownbroadcast.com ? www.brownbroadcast.com offc 503-245-6065 ? cell 503-703-3202 From chase.spross at xray.fm Tue Aug 8 08:32:38 2023 From: chase.spross at xray.fm (Chase Spross) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2023 08:32:38 -0700 Subject: [grc] Station automation with RSS feeds In-Reply-To: References: <4fc0776b-2d75-5390-5278-a5ed3dbe3fa4@recnet.com> Message-ID: KXRY uses Radiologik, it's Mac based and supports RSS feed scheduling and playback through it's "podcast" feature On Tue, Aug 8, 2023 at 6:59?AM WBDY 99.5 FM Binghamton Community Radio via grc wrote: > We use RDFetch for our Rivendell station. It's created and maintained by > David Klann (broadcasttool.com). > > On Tue, Aug 8, 2023 at 8:12?AM Michelle Bradley via grc < > grc at maillist.peak.org> wrote: > > > For our stations on Rivendell, this is how we do it: > > https://recnet.com/rivendell-import-rss > > > > For PlayoutONE, there is an XML importer function requires specific > > entries in File Importer. > > > > We get our feed of 2023Talks using the Audioport RSS URL. > > > > =m > > > > > > On 8/8/2023 8:00 AM, Robert Park via grc wrote: > > > Some years ago I followed the lead of another Wisconsin LPFM station > > and > > > started using Juice for our station's RSS downloads to our broadcast > > > computer. It still works reliably for some things but not for others. > For > > > example we automatically download and broadcast Democracy Now every > > weekday > > > morning using it, and Juice deletes the file a day later. However, for > > two > > > feeds from Public News Service it works for the 6 min daily newscast > but > > > not for their newer 2023Talks feed - > https://feeds.libsyn.com/206553/rss. > > > (Our broadcast software is Zara Radio and the broadcast computer is > > running > > > Windows 7 home edition.) What are other stations currently using for > > > automated broadcast of RSS feeds? > > > _______________________________________________ > > > grc mailing list > > > grc at maillist.peak.org > > > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > > -- > > *Michelle Bradley, CBT, KU3N* > > /Founder: REC Networks/ > > +1 202 621-2355 > > https://recnet.com > > facebook.com/recnet - Twitter: @michichan > > _______________________________________________ > > grc mailing list > > grc at maillist.peak.org > > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > > > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > -- *Chase Spross* Pronouns: (he/him) Station Director // XRAY.FM // KXRY 91.1 & 107.1 FM 503-233-2700 Schedule a time to meet with me https://calendly.com/chase-spross "Portland's best independent radio station" -- *Thrillist, *2017 One the "14 Best radio stations you can stream online" -- *Digital Trends, *2017 "Best of Portland " -- *Willamette Week* 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019 "The city's best all-around station" --* Portland Mercury*, 2017 "Reliably fascinating programming" -- Richard (a listener) From folkbloke at gmail.com Tue Aug 8 09:12:46 2023 From: folkbloke at gmail.com (Todd Tyson) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2023 12:12:46 -0400 Subject: [grc] TODAY: Radio for People Zoom Call - Tuesday, August 8, 10AM PDT / 1PM EDT In-Reply-To: <004001d9ca08$21bd3f20$6537bd60$@brownbroadcast.com> References: <004001d9ca08$21bd3f20$6537bd60$@brownbroadcast.com> Message-ID: I am planning to Zoom, but haven?t received link from Betty, yet. Todd at WFVR-LP On Tue, Aug 8, 2023 at 10:53 AM Michael D. Brown via grc < grc at maillist.peak.org> wrote: > Radio for People Zoom Call - TODAY Tuesday, August 8, 10AM PDT / 1PM EDT > > > > Same Zoom link as last month. > > The link is not posted publicly. For a link to the meeting: > > betty at c-map.org < > mailto: > betty at c-map.org> > > > > > > Agenda > > > > --FCC Updates > > Freeze on changes to existing LPFMs and translators, Sept 1 > > EAS National Test October 4 > > Review and update Form 1 by September 15 > > Forms 2 and 3 will be due after the test > > Biennial Ownership Report window: Oct 2 to Dec 1 > > 13 Franken FMs approved - no others will be allowed > > FCC rejects (again) expanding FM band down to 82MHz > > Translator Reform RM-11952 - reply commends due by tomorrow (Aug > 9) > > --FCC Grants > > --Senate Committee approves the nomination of Anna Gomez > > --Station Updates > > --Conferences and Training > > GRC conference updates > > > > > > > > Michael D. Brown > Brown Broadcast Services, Inc. > 3740 SW Comus St. ? Portland OR 97219-7418 USA > > mike at brownbroadcast.com ? . > brownbroadcast.com> www.brownbroadcast.com > offc 503-245-6065 ? cell 503-703-3202 > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > From damon at wtsq.org Tue Aug 8 09:30:39 2023 From: damon at wtsq.org (Damon Cater) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2023 12:30:39 -0400 Subject: [grc] Updates Message-ID: www.2023grassrootsradioconference.com Please Share! -- *-Damon Cater* President WTSQ 88.1 FM - *The Status Quo* 304-678-4159 <304-610-5666> wtsq.org From gm at artxfm.com Tue Aug 8 12:14:11 2023 From: gm at artxfm.com (Sharon Scott) Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2023 15:14:11 -0400 Subject: [grc] Help NCE's extend reach. Sample letter to FCC - Due 8/8 @ Midnight ET In-Reply-To: <947c96f6-5b97-bf3f-4ed1-aadd769ddc83@recnet.com> References: <6caac29f02c735af9e64e4c40fdfee37@artxfm.com> <947c96f6-5b97-bf3f-4ed1-aadd769ddc83@recnet.com> Message-ID: <1436427e8b927370743f2076a38e651e@artxfm.com> Community Radio Station and Friends, Please take a moment to express your support for RM-1995 which hopes to make FM translators available to Noncommercial Educational stations, including but not limited to LPFM stations. The information provided below has some insight. It is always best to file comments in to the FCC in your own words but sample letter is attached. You may personalize this form letter if you need a simple way to show your support. FILE COMMENT HERE: https://www.fcc.gov/ecfs/filings/standard To attach a document select: STANDARD FILING_ To write your own comment select: EXPRESS COMMENT Under "Proceeding" enter RM-11952 ********** ********** ********** On 2023-08-08 10:07, Michelle Bradley via grc wrote: > Correction to the link to the REC summary of the Translator Reform > petition for rulemaking. > > https://recnet.com/node/3849 > > =m > > On 8/8/2023 10:03 AM, Sharon Scott via grc wrote: >> Forwarded from Todd Urick of Common Frequency >> >> -------- Original Message -------- >> Subject: FCC Proposed Rule Making Pertinent to LPFM >> Date: 2023-08-08 01:40 >> From: Todd Urick >> To: Todd Urick >> >> If you are affiliated with a non-commercial or LPFM radio station and >> your station ever wanted to apply for a FM translator* (*_a licensed >> FM >> transmitter to re-broadcast you main station signal to either extend >> your station, or fix interference issues_), you may consider >> submitting >> a _Reply Comment_ to the FCC by Wednesday August 9 (due by the end of >> the day, midnight eastern time) concerning Proposed Rulemaking >> RM-11952. >> ?This proposed rulemaking asks the FCC to enact policies that limit >> speculators in applying for FM translators (for profiteering >> purposes), >> and asks to provide more opportunity for non-commercial and LPFM >> broadcasters to apply for FM translators (the next FM translator >> filing >> window, anticipated in the next couple years). >> >> _You might consider filing a comment to the FCC:_ >> >> - Stating you are in favor of limitations on mass FM translator filers >> and speculation. >> >> - Tell the FCC that the next FM translator filing window should be >> designated for LPFM and non-commercial stations only.? Commercial >> broadcasters have been given ample opportunities within the last three >> translator filing windows (two filing windows for translators for AM >> stations in 2017, and a filing window in 2003). >> >> - LPFM has never had an opportunity to file for FM translators. NCE >> stations have not had an opportunity for decades. >> >> - LPFM faces many signal problems.? LPFM licensees have asked the FCC >> for years for signal relief without any opportunity up to this point. >> Tell the FCC your station's signal problems. >> >> - NCE and LPFM community stations have fringe areas where no other >> local >> community stations serve.? It would be in the local public interest to >> extend those signals to fringe areas with a FM translator. >> >> - If you really want to get into the finer points of the rule-making, >> read below at "BACKGROUND" (recommended). >> >> You can file an ECFS comment with the FCC here: >> https://www.fcc.gov/ecfs/filings/standard >> >> You can choose _STANDARD FILING_ (attach PDF that you wrote) or >> _EXPRESS >> COMMENT _(write a comment into blank on the FCC site) >> >> Under "Proceeding" enter RM-11952 >> >> BACKGROUND: >> >> In August 2022 LPFM advocate REC Networks ("REC") filed the >> "Translator >> Reform" petition for rulemaking with the FCC.? Recently, the FCC has >> opened a window for comments on the proposal, which is currently in >> the >> Reply-Comments stage.? REC has proposed to the FCC policies to prevent >> the same trafficking and gamesmanship that followed the last FM >> translator filing opportunity ("filing window", or "Auction") in 2003. >> In this FCC Auction, several speculators filed dozen(s) to hundreds of >> applications for new FM translators on speculation, to merely sell for >> profit. >> >> In 2017 there were two more FM translator filing windows (for new >> translators) for AM licensees to apply to rebroadcast their AM >> stations >> on FM.? During this filing window, the FCC ignored following the >> mandate >> of the Local Community Radio Act ("LCRA"), which required the FCC to >> save channels for future LPFM filing opportunities.? Because of this, >> there are not that many frequencies left in cities for LPFM or new >> translators (major cities have no open channels). >> >> REC proposes restrictions within the next FM translator filing window >> which places limitations on the resale of FM translators, requires >> more >> disclosure of attributable interest, filing caps, and other mild >> limitations.? REC also asks the FCC (for LPFM licensees) to eliminate >> the LPFM to FM translator contour overlap requirement (which is >> untenable), replace the 10/20 mile market-dependent distance >> restrictions for a translator owned by a LPFM with a 25-mile >> restriction, and other small adjustments.? REC proposes an enhanced >> protection system of protecting LPFM openings in the FM band from >> being >> claimed by translators via a ?disparity factor" regimen. >> >> REC requests for the next FM translator file window be designated for >> LPFM and NCE stations to apply for translators between 88.1 FM - 91.9 >> FM. >> >> Non-commercial/LPFM advocates Common Frequency has submitted a comment >> that aggressively asks the FCC for much stronger protocols for the >> next >> FM translator filing window that _favors local non-commercial NCE and >> LPFM stations_.? This list includes: >> >> - Filing caps don't work to keep speculators from applying for large >> amounts of FM translators and reselling them. >> >> - In the last two FM translator filing windows, where AM stations were >> allowed to apply for FM translators, the FCC did not comply with the >> LCRA.? Much more stringent measures are needed to save room for LPFM >> and >> NCE FM translators. >> >> - Commercial radio licensees do not need another opportunity to file >> for >> more FM translators because they have had ample opportunities to do >> so. >> It is time to open an opportunity for only LPFM and NCE FM to apply >> for >> FM translators, because: >> >> (a) There has been no or little opportunity for them to apply in the >> last two decades >> >> (b) Both services have a dire need to fix signal interference issues >> and >> extend their local programming to other communities. >> >> Specific policies or actions CF recommends include: >> >> (1) Limiting the number of applications to five by any entity to >> prevent >> speculation. >> >> (2) The filer should be in the proximity of the proposed new FM >> translator.? Or rebroadcast a station that can be received off-the-air >> (_not via satellite or internet_ -- to dissuade national networks). >> >> (3) The next filing window should be for nonprofits, LFPM, and >> non-commercial stations only.? The FCC should allow applicants to >> propose translators anywhere on the FM band, _not just 88.1 FM -91.9 >> FM._ >> >> (4) Translators applied for by LPFM licensees should have no 60 dBu >> overlap or distance-to-headquarters requirement.? These measures >> stifle >> the amelioration of complex interference and signal issues. >> >> (5) Applicants should provide a brief narrative of the "intention of >> use" for a newly-proposed FM translator.? This should deter >> speculators. >> >> (6) The FCC should modify the "FCC point system" (this system >> designates >> the highest point-receiver as the winner of a radio channel if >> multiple >> applicants apply for the same channel). >> >> ?? (a) A point should be given for a broadcaster with a local studio >> creating local programming. >> >> ?? (b) A point should be given to broadcasters that currently do not >> own >> any translators and are only applying for one translator. >> >> ?? (c) Change the "establish local" point.? This affords points to >> applicants that have been around two years applying for a translator >> within 25 miles of their station.? However, for full power community >> and >> public stations, they may want to apply for a translator more than 25 >> miles away.? The proposal allows these NCE applicants to claim local >> points if it is within the 40 dBu fringe contour of their station >> which >> shares a common headquarters for the entity. >> >> ?? (d) Do away with the translator "technical superiority" point >> system. >> The FCC usually rewards the proposal that maximizes use of spectrum >> (large coverage areas).? Although this subject matter is difficult to >> explain, "technical superiority" usually rewards the dominant >> broadcaster who has access to the best tower site, and does not use >> spectrum strategically. >> >> You can read REC's proposal and Common Frequency's comments via the >> links below >> >> CF's Comment https://www.fcc.gov/ecfs/document/107270843413704/1 >> >> REC's Proposed Rulemaking: Well-summarized by REC here: >> _https://recnet.com/node/3849_ and the proposed rulemaking as >> submitted: >> https://www.fcc.gov/ecfs/document/1072672306591/1 >> >> Thanks >> >> Todd >> Common Frequency >> _______________________________________________ >> grc mailing list >> grc at maillist.peak.org >> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > -- > *Michelle Bradley, CBT, KU3N* > /Founder: REC Networks/ > +1 202 621-2355 > https://recnet.com > facebook.com/recnet - Twitter: @michichan > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: FCC3849commentS.docx Type: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document Size: 13665 bytes Desc: not available URL: From gm at artxfm.com Tue Aug 8 12:18:16 2023 From: gm at artxfm.com (Sharon Scott) Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2023 15:18:16 -0400 Subject: [grc] Correction: Due Aug. 9 at Midnight In-Reply-To: <1436427e8b927370743f2076a38e651e@artxfm.com> References: <6caac29f02c735af9e64e4c40fdfee37@artxfm.com> <947c96f6-5b97-bf3f-4ed1-aadd769ddc83@recnet.com> <1436427e8b927370743f2076a38e651e@artxfm.com> Message-ID: <38c5868e0be4dcd5c58a73609d387a26@artxfm.com> On 2023-08-08 15:14, Sharon Scott via grc wrote: > Community Radio Station and Friends, > > Please take a moment to express your support for RM-1995 which hopes to > make FM translators available to Noncommercial Educational stations, > including but not limited to LPFM stations. Due Aug. 9 @ Midnight. > > The information provided below has some insight. It is always best to > file comments in to the FCC in your own words but sample letter is > attached. You may personalize this form letter if you need a simple way > to show your support. > > > FILE COMMENT HERE: > https://www.fcc.gov/ecfs/filings/standard > > To attach a document select: STANDARD FILING_ > To write your own comment select: EXPRESS COMMENT > > Under "Proceeding" enter RM-11952 > > > ********** > ********** > ********** > > > > On 2023-08-08 10:07, Michelle Bradley via grc wrote: >> Correction to the link to the REC summary of the Translator Reform >> petition for rulemaking. >> >> https://recnet.com/node/3849 >> >> =m > > > > >> >> On 8/8/2023 10:03 AM, Sharon Scott via grc wrote: >>> Forwarded from Todd Urick of Common Frequency >>> >>> -------- Original Message -------- >>> Subject: FCC Proposed Rule Making Pertinent to LPFM >>> Date: 2023-08-08 01:40 >>> From: Todd Urick >>> To: Todd Urick >>> >>> If you are affiliated with a non-commercial or LPFM radio station and >>> your station ever wanted to apply for a FM translator* (*_a licensed >>> FM >>> transmitter to re-broadcast you main station signal to either extend >>> your station, or fix interference issues_), you may consider >>> submitting >>> a _Reply Comment_ to the FCC by Wednesday August 9 (due by the end of >>> the day, midnight eastern time) concerning Proposed Rulemaking >>> RM-11952. >>> ?This proposed rulemaking asks the FCC to enact policies that limit >>> speculators in applying for FM translators (for profiteering >>> purposes), >>> and asks to provide more opportunity for non-commercial and LPFM >>> broadcasters to apply for FM translators (the next FM translator >>> filing >>> window, anticipated in the next couple years). >>> >>> _You might consider filing a comment to the FCC:_ >>> >>> - Stating you are in favor of limitations on mass FM translator >>> filers >>> and speculation. >>> >>> - Tell the FCC that the next FM translator filing window should be >>> designated for LPFM and non-commercial stations only.? Commercial >>> broadcasters have been given ample opportunities within the last >>> three >>> translator filing windows (two filing windows for translators for AM >>> stations in 2017, and a filing window in 2003). >>> >>> - LPFM has never had an opportunity to file for FM translators. NCE >>> stations have not had an opportunity for decades. >>> >>> - LPFM faces many signal problems.? LPFM licensees have asked the FCC >>> for years for signal relief without any opportunity up to this point. >>> Tell the FCC your station's signal problems. >>> >>> - NCE and LPFM community stations have fringe areas where no other >>> local >>> community stations serve.? It would be in the local public interest >>> to >>> extend those signals to fringe areas with a FM translator. >>> >>> - If you really want to get into the finer points of the rule-making, >>> read below at "BACKGROUND" (recommended). >>> >>> You can file an ECFS comment with the FCC here: >>> https://www.fcc.gov/ecfs/filings/standard >>> >>> You can choose _STANDARD FILING_ (attach PDF that you wrote) or >>> _EXPRESS >>> COMMENT _(write a comment into blank on the FCC site) >>> >>> Under "Proceeding" enter RM-11952 >>> >>> BACKGROUND: >>> >>> In August 2022 LPFM advocate REC Networks ("REC") filed the >>> "Translator >>> Reform" petition for rulemaking with the FCC.? Recently, the FCC has >>> opened a window for comments on the proposal, which is currently in >>> the >>> Reply-Comments stage.? REC has proposed to the FCC policies to >>> prevent >>> the same trafficking and gamesmanship that followed the last FM >>> translator filing opportunity ("filing window", or "Auction") in >>> 2003. >>> In this FCC Auction, several speculators filed dozen(s) to hundreds >>> of >>> applications for new FM translators on speculation, to merely sell >>> for >>> profit. >>> >>> In 2017 there were two more FM translator filing windows (for new >>> translators) for AM licensees to apply to rebroadcast their AM >>> stations >>> on FM.? During this filing window, the FCC ignored following the >>> mandate >>> of the Local Community Radio Act ("LCRA"), which required the FCC to >>> save channels for future LPFM filing opportunities.? Because of this, >>> there are not that many frequencies left in cities for LPFM or new >>> translators (major cities have no open channels). >>> >>> REC proposes restrictions within the next FM translator filing window >>> which places limitations on the resale of FM translators, requires >>> more >>> disclosure of attributable interest, filing caps, and other mild >>> limitations.? REC also asks the FCC (for LPFM licensees) to eliminate >>> the LPFM to FM translator contour overlap requirement (which is >>> untenable), replace the 10/20 mile market-dependent distance >>> restrictions for a translator owned by a LPFM with a 25-mile >>> restriction, and other small adjustments.? REC proposes an enhanced >>> protection system of protecting LPFM openings in the FM band from >>> being >>> claimed by translators via a ?disparity factor" regimen. >>> >>> REC requests for the next FM translator file window be designated for >>> LPFM and NCE stations to apply for translators between 88.1 FM - 91.9 >>> FM. >>> >>> Non-commercial/LPFM advocates Common Frequency has submitted a >>> comment >>> that aggressively asks the FCC for much stronger protocols for the >>> next >>> FM translator filing window that _favors local non-commercial NCE and >>> LPFM stations_.? This list includes: >>> >>> - Filing caps don't work to keep speculators from applying for large >>> amounts of FM translators and reselling them. >>> >>> - In the last two FM translator filing windows, where AM stations >>> were >>> allowed to apply for FM translators, the FCC did not comply with the >>> LCRA.? Much more stringent measures are needed to save room for LPFM >>> and >>> NCE FM translators. >>> >>> - Commercial radio licensees do not need another opportunity to file >>> for >>> more FM translators because they have had ample opportunities to do >>> so. >>> It is time to open an opportunity for only LPFM and NCE FM to apply >>> for >>> FM translators, because: >>> >>> (a) There has been no or little opportunity for them to apply in the >>> last two decades >>> >>> (b) Both services have a dire need to fix signal interference issues >>> and >>> extend their local programming to other communities. >>> >>> Specific policies or actions CF recommends include: >>> >>> (1) Limiting the number of applications to five by any entity to >>> prevent >>> speculation. >>> >>> (2) The filer should be in the proximity of the proposed new FM >>> translator.? Or rebroadcast a station that can be received >>> off-the-air >>> (_not via satellite or internet_ -- to dissuade national networks). >>> >>> (3) The next filing window should be for nonprofits, LFPM, and >>> non-commercial stations only.? The FCC should allow applicants to >>> propose translators anywhere on the FM band, _not just 88.1 FM -91.9 >>> FM._ >>> >>> (4) Translators applied for by LPFM licensees should have no 60 dBu >>> overlap or distance-to-headquarters requirement.? These measures >>> stifle >>> the amelioration of complex interference and signal issues. >>> >>> (5) Applicants should provide a brief narrative of the "intention of >>> use" for a newly-proposed FM translator.? This should deter >>> speculators. >>> >>> (6) The FCC should modify the "FCC point system" (this system >>> designates >>> the highest point-receiver as the winner of a radio channel if >>> multiple >>> applicants apply for the same channel). >>> >>> ?? (a) A point should be given for a broadcaster with a local studio >>> creating local programming. >>> >>> ?? (b) A point should be given to broadcasters that currently do not >>> own >>> any translators and are only applying for one translator. >>> >>> ?? (c) Change the "establish local" point.? This affords points to >>> applicants that have been around two years applying for a translator >>> within 25 miles of their station.? However, for full power community >>> and >>> public stations, they may want to apply for a translator more than 25 >>> miles away.? The proposal allows these NCE applicants to claim local >>> points if it is within the 40 dBu fringe contour of their station >>> which >>> shares a common headquarters for the entity. >>> >>> ?? (d) Do away with the translator "technical superiority" point >>> system. >>> The FCC usually rewards the proposal that maximizes use of spectrum >>> (large coverage areas).? Although this subject matter is difficult to >>> explain, "technical superiority" usually rewards the dominant >>> broadcaster who has access to the best tower site, and does not use >>> spectrum strategically. >>> >>> You can read REC's proposal and Common Frequency's comments via the >>> links below >>> >>> CF's Comment https://www.fcc.gov/ecfs/document/107270843413704/1 >>> >>> REC's Proposed Rulemaking: Well-summarized by REC here: >>> _https://recnet.com/node/3849_ and the proposed rulemaking as >>> submitted: >>> https://www.fcc.gov/ecfs/document/1072672306591/1 >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Todd >>> Common Frequency >>> _______________________________________________ >>> grc mailing list >>> grc at maillist.peak.org >>> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc >> -- >> *Michelle Bradley, CBT, KU3N* >> /Founder: REC Networks/ >> +1 202 621-2355 >> https://recnet.com >> facebook.com/recnet - Twitter: @michichan >> _______________________________________________ >> grc mailing list >> grc at maillist.peak.org >> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Scott Co-Founder & General Manager ARTxFM / WXOX 97.1 FM P.O. Box 5103 Louisville, Kentucky 40255 USA 502.640.6414 *************************** ARTxFM http://www.artxfm.com GET THE APP I-TUNES https://apps.apple.com/us/app/id1205816500 Google Play https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.artxfm.xox_player&pli=1 ************************ NEW BOOK: LOW POWER FM for DUMMIES https://www.amazon.com/Low-Power-Dummies-Sharon-Scott/dp/1394185324/ From pbame at prometheusradio.org Thu Aug 10 10:14:31 2023 From: pbame at prometheusradio.org (Paul Bame) Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2023 13:14:31 -0400 Subject: [grc] Station automation with RSS feeds In-Reply-To: References: <4fc0776b-2d75-5390-5278-a5ed3dbe3fa4@recnet.com> Message-ID: youtube-dl and its descendent yt-dlp can download podcasts (and many other things), and I believe you can force the output file name, omitting the extra task of deleting stale files. If not, a simple wrapper script (aka .bat file) can remove the old file. ## Paul (he/him) (pablito) Bame Engineering Director, Philadelphia, Prometheus Radio Project 215.727.9620 x2 / 970.988.3849 On Tue, Aug 8, 2023 at 11:32?AM Chase Spross via grc wrote: > KXRY uses Radiologik, it's Mac based and supports RSS feed scheduling and > playback through it's "podcast" feature > > On Tue, Aug 8, 2023 at 6:59?AM WBDY 99.5 FM Binghamton Community Radio via > grc wrote: > > > We use RDFetch for our Rivendell station. It's created and maintained by > > David Klann (broadcasttool.com). > > > > On Tue, Aug 8, 2023 at 8:12?AM Michelle Bradley via grc < > > grc at maillist.peak.org> wrote: > > > > > For our stations on Rivendell, this is how we do it: > > > https://recnet.com/rivendell-import-rss > > > > > > For PlayoutONE, there is an XML importer function requires specific > > > entries in File Importer. > > > > > > We get our feed of 2023Talks using the Audioport RSS URL. > > > > > > =m > > > > > > > > > On 8/8/2023 8:00 AM, Robert Park via grc wrote: > > > > Some years ago I followed the lead of another Wisconsin LPFM > station > > > and > > > > started using Juice for our station's RSS downloads to our broadcast > > > > computer. It still works reliably for some things but not for others. > > For > > > > example we automatically download and broadcast Democracy Now every > > > weekday > > > > morning using it, and Juice deletes the file a day later. However, > for > > > two > > > > feeds from Public News Service it works for the 6 min daily newscast > > but > > > > not for their newer 2023Talks feed - > > https://feeds.libsyn.com/206553/rss. > > > > (Our broadcast software is Zara Radio and the broadcast computer is > > > running > > > > Windows 7 home edition.) What are other stations currently using for > > > > automated broadcast of RSS feeds? > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > grc mailing list > > > > grc at maillist.peak.org > > > > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > > > -- > > > *Michelle Bradley, CBT, KU3N* > > > /Founder: REC Networks/ > > > +1 202 621-2355 > > > https://recnet.com > > > facebook.com/recnet - Twitter: @michichan > > > _______________________________________________ > > > grc mailing list > > > grc at maillist.peak.org > > > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > grc mailing list > > grc at maillist.peak.org > > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > > > > > -- > *Chase Spross* > Pronouns: (he/him) > Station Director // XRAY.FM // KXRY 91.1 & 107.1 FM > 503-233-2700 > Schedule a time to meet with me https://calendly.com/chase-spross > > "Portland's best > < > https://www.thrillist.com/lifestyle/portland/best-record-labels-portland-oregon-to-watch > > > independent > radio station" -- *Thrillist, *2017 > > One the "14 Best > radio > stations you can stream online" -- *Digital Trends, *2017 > > "Best of Portland > < > http://www.wweek.com/portland/article-25089-best-of-portland-readers-poll.html > >" > -- *Willamette Week* 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019 > > "The city's best > < > http://www.portlandmercury.com/events/19170707/its-so-bazaar-the-xrayfm-summer-party > > > all-around station" --* Portland Mercury*, 2017 > > "Reliably fascinating programming" -- Richard (a listener) > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > From damon at wtsq.org Mon Aug 14 11:34:32 2023 From: damon at wtsq.org (Damon Cater) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2023 14:34:32 -0400 Subject: [grc] Updates Message-ID: there are new updates on the website for the www.2023grassrootsradioconference.com *Also, don't forget to get your tickets before the early bird registration expires at the end of this month!!! * -- *-Damon Cater* President WTSQ 88.1 FM - *The Status Quo* 304-678-4159 <304-610-5666> wtsq.org From gm at artxfm.com Thu Aug 17 08:39:34 2023 From: gm at artxfm.com (Sharon Scott) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2023 11:39:34 -0400 Subject: [grc] OFFICIAL CALL FOR PRESENTERS - GRC 2023!!! Message-ID: <8a7ffb2d5f3fac27d71fe0e0e6ae3301@artxfm.com> OFFICIAL CALL FOR PRESENTERS for the 2023 Grassroots Radio Conference! GRC is always a participatory conference. Many attendees are also speakers. It was been a while since we met and we know you have something helpful to share! SUBMIT PRESENTATION IDEAS HERE: https://forms.gle/FnA5LoGtVsXzG9we8 GRC presenters will be included in an exciting schedule including these legendary radio stars: Amy Goodman, Democracy Now! Pete Tridish, Prometheus Radio Project / International Media Action Ursula Ruedenburg, Pacifica Affiliates Jim Ellinger, Austin Airwaves Michelle Bradley, REC Networks The GRC 2023 will take place in Charleston, West Virginia and will be hosted by WTSQ 88.1 FM. For more details check the GRASSROOTS RADIO CONFERENCE WEBSITE: https://www.2023grassrootsradioconference.com/ CONFERENCE SCHOLARSHIPS ARE AVAILABLE to cover 50% of your registration fee. Thanks Amy Goodman! APPLY for SCHOLARSHIPS HERE: https://forms.gle/fPdem9ffYsCDwv6V8 REGISTER FOR THE CONFERENCE HERE: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/2023-grassroots-radio-conference-tickets-640731223337 Hope to see you in October! We will have so much to celebrate!!! XOX, Sharon *************************** Sharon M. Scott Co-Founder & General Manager ARTxFM / WXOX 97.1 FM P.O. Box 5103 Louisville, Kentucky 40255 USA 502.640.6414 *************************** ARTxFM http://www.artxfm.com GET THE APP I-TUNES https://apps.apple.com/us/app/id1205816500 Google Play https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.artxfm.xox_player&pli=1 ************************ NEW BOOK: LOW POWER FM for DUMMIES https://www.amazon.com/Low-Power-Dummies-Sharon-Scott/dp/1394185324/ From damon at wtsq.org Fri Aug 18 10:55:11 2023 From: damon at wtsq.org (Damon Cater) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2023 13:55:11 -0400 Subject: [grc] GRC Updates Message-ID: Check out updates! Pass this along to your networks! Check out Presenters! www.2023grassrootsradioconference.com Thanks! See you all in the fall! -- *-Damon Cater* President WTSQ 88.1 FM - *The Status Quo* 304-678-4159 <304-610-5666> wtsq.org From gm at artxfm.com Mon Aug 21 10:52:38 2023 From: gm at artxfm.com (Sharon Scott) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2023 13:52:38 -0400 Subject: [grc] GRC Meet-Up - TUES Aug 22 @ 8 PM ET Message-ID: Please join us for the GRC Monthly Meet up on Tuesday, Aug. 22 at 8 PM ET. All parties interested in community radio are welcome to attend. ART FM is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting. Topic: GRC Monthly Meet-Up Time: Aug 22, 2023 08:00 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada) Join Zoom Meeting https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81286496405?pwd=N1pCd0l0dEJ3TTJMWjV6WlVTUUxqUT09 Meeting ID: 812 8649 6405 Passcode: 101923 Subjects include: Grassroots Radio Conference 2023 https://www.2023grassrootsradioconference.com LPFM Application Window https://lpfmresources.com Nov. 1 - 8, 2023 --- One tap mobile +13052241968,,81286496405#,,,,*101923# US +13092053325,,81286496405#,,,,*101923# US --- Dial by your location ? +1 305 224 1968 US ? +1 309 205 3325 US ? +1 312 626 6799 US (Chicago) ? +1 646 558 8656 US (New York) ? +1 646 931 3860 US ? +1 301 715 8592 US (Washington DC) ? +1 669 444 9171 US ? +1 669 900 9128 US (San Jose) ? +1 689 278 1000 US ? +1 719 359 4580 US ? +1 253 205 0468 US ? +1 253 215 8782 US (Tacoma) ? +1 346 248 7799 US (Houston) ? +1 360 209 5623 US ? +1 386 347 5053 US ? +1 507 473 4847 US ? +1 564 217 2000 US Meeting ID: 812 8649 6405 Passcode: 101923 Find your local number: https://us02web.zoom.us/u/kpigiIFZf *************************** Sharon M. Scott Co-Founder & General Manager ARTxFM / WXOX 97.1 FM P.O. Box 5103 Louisville, Kentucky 40255 USA 502.640.6414 *************************** ARTxFM http://www.artxfm.com GET THE APP I-TUNES https://apps.apple.com/us/app/id1205816500 Google Play https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.artxfm.xox_player&pli=1 ************************ NEW BOOK: LOW POWER FM for DUMMIES https://www.amazon.com/Low-Power-Dummies-Sharon-Scott/dp/1394185324/ From frieda.werden at gmail.com Sun Aug 27 23:18:23 2023 From: frieda.werden at gmail.com (Frieda Werden) Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2023 23:18:23 -0700 Subject: [grc] Anyone driving to GRC? Message-ID: I could likely meet up with anyone driving from DC or just about any East Coast state between Massachusetts and North Carolina. -- Frieda Werden, Series Producer WINGS: Women's International News Gathering Service "Raising Women's Voices through Radio Worldwide" since 1986 Email: wingsradionews at gmail.com Facebook news feed: https://www.facebook.com/wingsradio New website: wingsradio.org/wordpress Older editions gradually being archived on archive.org From gm at artxfm.com Mon Aug 28 14:44:30 2023 From: gm at artxfm.com (Sharon Scott) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2023 17:44:30 -0400 Subject: [grc] Grassroots Radio Conference - Early Bird Deadline Aug 31!!! In-Reply-To: <6685af6b9bb19b63a15d8c84c7795cd2@artxfm.com> References: <5b0763644b744e1b4f081fe8163186ed@artxfm.com> <8f8869feb8f4042cf9fd8822e26b0b75@artxfm.com> <6685af6b9bb19b63a15d8c84c7795cd2@artxfm.com> Message-ID: Hello Friends, Forgive any repeats here, there are still folks in the GRC Community who have not heard about this October's conference. PLEASE HELP US SPREAD THE WORD! *********** The Grassroots Radio Conference is coming up this October 19-22 and it will be hosted by WTSQ 88.1 FM in Charleston, West Virginia. This is the first IN-PERSON GRC since the Rochester meeting in 2019! If you are involved with a college or community radio station -- as a station manager, program producer, radio engineer, board member, or listener ~ We very much hope to see you there! It is always an amazing exchange of ideas and such fun to be around other radio activists from around the country! You can learn more about the conference here: GRASSROOTS RADIO CONFERENCE 2023 https://www.2023grassrootsradioconference.com/ AUGUST 31 - Early Bird Discount Ends Amy Goodman of Democracy Now! has donated her speaker fee to providing partial scholarships to conference attendees. Please take advantage of this opportunity. APPLY for SCHOLARSHIPS HERE: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfXfmliXsQ3DFO0f435DBG24VICC1OKrSc2aXGF3I7YmKFu3Q/viewform Other speakers include: Pete Tridish, Prometheus Radio Project / International Media Action Ursula Ruedenburg, Pacifica Affiliates Jim Ellinger, Austin Airwaves LaGanzie Kale, KLEK Michelle Bradley, REC Networks GRC is a participatory conference. If you are interested in presenting your own ideas, we welcome you to do so! AUGUST 31 - Deadline for Presentation Proposals SUBMIT PROPOSALS HERE: https://forms.gle/FnA5LoGtVsXzG9we8 There will be a showcase of bands and launch party "Low Power FM for Dummies" along with a number of LPFM intensive sessions for new applicants ahead of the new LPFM window which opens this November 1-8! Please help get the word out about this rare opportunity to build new community stations and invite interested parties to join us at the conference! LEARN MORE @ LPFM Resources: https://lpfmresources.com/ Be sure to secure your accommodations soon, the Styx concert could complicate the matter. There is a special conference rate at the Marriott Hotel which is in walking distance to the downtown area and all conference activities. There are other options on the conference website. Charleston is a very beautiful town! BOOK ROOMS HERE: https://www.marriott.com/event-reservations/reservation-link.mi?id=1690987940111&key=GRP&app=resvlink ******* P.S. If this is the first you are hearing about this year's conference, it means you are not connected in the right ways! Follow GRC on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/grassrootsradioconference Sign-up for the GRC listserve: http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc HOPE TO SEE YOU THIS OCTOBER!!!! XOX, Sharon *************************** Sharon M. Scott Co-Founder & General Manager ARTxFM / WXOX 97.1 FM P.O. Box 5103 Louisville, Kentucky 40255 USA 502.640.6414 *************************** ARTxFM http://www.artxfm.com GET THE APP I-TUNES https://apps.apple.com/us/app/id1205816500 Google Play https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.artxfm.xox_player&pli=1 ************************ NEW BOOK: LOW POWER FM for DUMMIES https://www.amazon.com/Low-Power-Dummies-Sharon-Scott/dp/1394185324/ From ad253 at freeelectron.net Mon Aug 28 19:21:33 2023 From: ad253 at freeelectron.net (al davis) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2023 22:21:33 -0400 Subject: [grc] Grassroots Radio Conference - Early Bird Deadline Aug 31!!! In-Reply-To: References: <5b0763644b744e1b4f081fe8163186ed@artxfm.com> <8f8869feb8f4042cf9fd8822e26b0b75@artxfm.com> <6685af6b9bb19b63a15d8c84c7795cd2@artxfm.com> Message-ID: <20230828222133.4a79a84a@s> Is there any alternative available in places to stay? One long standing tradition of GRC is alternative lodging. There is a need for something else other than an expensive corporate hotel. In the past, home stays, camping, and indoor camping have been offered at very low or zero cost to the attendee. I recall that at some GRC's in the past, a majority of people at the conference were doing this. Also .. Is there any discount for multiples from the same station? At some GRC's past, with several from the same station, the price could go down to half of the regular price, with time shares and MX groups being considered as one station. From wings at wings.org Mon Aug 28 20:21:38 2023 From: wings at wings.org (Frieda Werden) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2023 20:21:38 -0700 Subject: [grc] Grassroots Radio Conference - Early Bird Deadline Aug 31!!! In-Reply-To: <20230828222133.4a79a84a@s> References: <5b0763644b744e1b4f081fe8163186ed@artxfm.com> <8f8869feb8f4042cf9fd8822e26b0b75@artxfm.com> <6685af6b9bb19b63a15d8c84c7795cd2@artxfm.com> <20230828222133.4a79a84a@s> Message-ID: I would like to know about this, too, please. On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 7:22 PM al davis via grc wrote: > Is there any alternative available in places to stay? > > One long standing tradition of GRC is alternative lodging. There is a > need for something else other than an expensive corporate hotel. In > the past, home stays, camping, and indoor camping have been offered > at very low or zero cost to the attendee. I recall that at some GRC's > in the past, a majority of people at the conference were doing this. > > Also .. Is there any discount for multiples from the same station? At > some GRC's past, with several from the same station, the price could go > down to half of the regular price, with time shares and MX groups being > considered as one station. > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > From damon at wtsq.org Mon Aug 28 20:30:49 2023 From: damon at wtsq.org (damon) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2023 23:30:49 -0400 Subject: [grc] Grassroots Radio Conference - Early Bird Deadline Aug 31!!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <64ed666c.0c0a0220.1c69a.b1cb@mx.google.com> Please check out the website under travel and lodging for some limited alternative lodging.? Its in the host hotel section.? Www.2023grassrootsradioconference.comSent via the Samsung Galaxy S8 Active, an AT&T 5G Evolution capable smartphone -------- Original message --------From: Frieda Werden via grc Date: 8/28/23 11:21 PM (GMT-05:00) To: al davis Cc: grc at maillist.peak.org Subject: Re: [grc] Grassroots Radio Conference - Early Bird Deadline Aug 31!!! I would like to know about this, too, please.On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 7:22 PM al davis via grc wrote:> Is there any alternative available in places to stay?>> One long standing tradition of GRC is alternative lodging.? There is a> need for something else other than an expensive corporate hotel.? In> the past, home stays, camping, and indoor camping have been offered> at very low or zero cost to the attendee.? I recall that at some GRC's> in the past, a majority of people at the conference were doing this.>> Also ..? Is there any discount for multiples from the same station?? At> some GRC's past, with several from the same station, the price could go> down to half of the regular price, with time shares and MX groups being> considered as one station.> _______________________________________________> grc mailing list> grc at maillist.peak.org> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc>_______________________________________________grc mailing listgrc at maillist.peak.orghttp://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc From damon at wtsq.org Mon Aug 28 20:32:45 2023 From: damon at wtsq.org (damon) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2023 23:32:45 -0400 Subject: [grc] Grassroots Radio Conference - Early Bird Deadline Aug 31!!! In-Reply-To: <20230828222133.4a79a84a@s> Message-ID: <64ed66e0.0c0a0220.1c69a.b1d7@mx.google.com> Check out the discount application under the discount and scholarship tab.??Www.2022grassrootsradioconference.comSent via the Samsung Galaxy S8 Active, an AT&T 5G Evolution capable smartphone -------- Original message --------From: al davis via grc Date: 8/28/23 10:22 PM (GMT-05:00) To: grc at maillist.peak.org Subject: Re: [grc] Grassroots Radio Conference - Early Bird Deadline Aug 31!!! Is there any alternative available in places to stay?One long standing tradition of GRC is alternative lodging.? There is aneed for something else other than an expensive corporate hotel.? Inthe past, home stays, camping, and indoor camping have been offeredat very low or zero cost to the attendee.? I recall that at some GRC'sin the past, a majority of people at the conference were doing this.Also ..? Is there any discount for multiples from the same station?? Atsome GRC's past, with several from the same station, the price could godown to half of the regular price, with time shares and MX groups beingconsidered as one station._______________________________________________grc mailing listgrc at maillist.peak.orghttp://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc From betty at c-map.org Mon Aug 28 21:26:13 2023 From: betty at c-map.org (Betty McArdle) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2023 21:26:13 -0700 Subject: [grc] Grassroots Radio Conference - Early Bird Deadline Aug 31!!! In-Reply-To: <64ed66e0.0c0a0220.1c69a.b1d7@mx.google.com> References: <20230828222133.4a79a84a@s> <64ed66e0.0c0a0220.1c69a.b1d7@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <001601d9da30$f52b6ed0$df824c70$@c-map.org> Hi Damon, I think there is a mistake on the URL you gave for GRC23 info. The URL you gave says "...2022...." I tried 2023 and I got to the main page for GRC 23. Betty McArdle CMAP -----Original Message----- From: grc On Behalf Of damon via grc Sent: Monday, August 28, 2023 8:33 PM To: al davis ; grc at maillist.peak.org Subject: Re: [grc] Grassroots Radio Conference - Early Bird Deadline Aug 31!!! Check out the discount application under the discount and scholarship tab. Www.2022grassrootsradioconference.comSent via the Samsung Galaxy S8 Active, an AT&T 5G Evolution capable smartphone -------- Original message --------From: al davis via grc Date: 8/28/23 10:22 PM (GMT-05:00) To: grc at maillist.peak.org Subject: Re: [grc] Grassroots Radio Conference - Early Bird Deadline Aug 31!!! Is there any alternative available in places to stay?One long standing tradition of GRC is alternative lodging. There is aneed for something else other than an expensive corporate hotel. Inthe past, home stays, camping, and indoor camping have been offeredat very low or zero cost to the attendee. I recall that at some GRC'sin the past, a majority of people at the conference were doing this.Also .. Is there any discount for multiples from the same station? Atsome GRC's past, with several from the same station, the price could godown to half of the regular price, with time shares and MX groups beingconsidered as one station._______________________________________________grc mailing listgrc at maillist.peak.orghttp://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc _______________________________________________ grc mailing list grc at maillist.peak.org http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc