From stathika at gmail.com Fri Mar 3 07:28:40 2023 From: stathika at gmail.com (Katherine Stathis) Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2023 10:28:40 -0500 Subject: [grc] Storytelling copyright guidelines Message-ID: Hi! We're seeking clear copyright guidelines surrounding the narration of short stories, and if there are limitations for broadcasting, streaming, or posting archived shows online. We're a bit confused on what's allowed and what's not, and we have a storyteller radio host in suspense. Any help is appreciated! Thank you, Kate Kate Stathis WAYO 104.3FM Rochester, NY From kenyalewis at gmail.com Fri Mar 3 09:02:02 2023 From: kenyalewis at gmail.com (kenya lewis) Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2023 09:02:02 -0800 Subject: [grc] Storytelling copyright guidelines In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1AE6BC05-5C7E-4C75-9024-5A7E52D11DDD@gmail.com> Interesting. I think: You?d need permission or for the material to be in the public domain, (published prior to 1923) You may be able to argue it is educational but ethically that is made more gray b.c you are using someone else?s work for your station?s benefit with none to the content creators I?m doing some tests for work, so here is the answer from Chat GPT: Under FCC rules, non-commercial educational (NCE) broadcast stations are generally subject to the same copyright laws as commercial broadcast stations. Therefore, reading a published short story on a non-commercial broadcast radio station without permission from the copyright holder could still be considered a copyright violation. However, there are some exceptions under the law that may apply to NCE stations. For example, Section 110 of the Copyright Act allows for certain performances and displays of copyrighted works in the context of face-to-face teaching activities at non-profit educational institutions. Additionally, the fair use doctrine may allow for certain limited use of copyrighted material without permission for purposes such as criticism, commentary, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, or research. If you are considering reading a published short story on a non-commercial broadcast radio station, it's best to consult with legal counsel to determine the specific copyright implications and any exceptions that may apply. > On Mar 3, 2023, at 7:28 AM, Katherine Stathis via grc wrote: > > ?Hi! We're seeking clear copyright guidelines surrounding the narration of > short stories, and if there are limitations for broadcasting, streaming, or > posting archived shows online. We're a bit confused on what's allowed and > what's not, and we have a storyteller radio host in suspense. Any help is > appreciated! > > Thank you, > Kate > > Kate Stathis > WAYO 104.3FM > Rochester, NY > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc From ken at wfmu.org Fri Mar 3 09:41:52 2023 From: ken at wfmu.org (Ken Freedman) Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2023 12:41:52 -0500 Subject: [grc] Storytelling copyright guidelines In-Reply-To: <1AE6BC05-5C7E-4C75-9024-5A7E52D11DDD@gmail.com> References: <1AE6BC05-5C7E-4C75-9024-5A7E52D11DDD@gmail.com> Message-ID: While the ChatGPT is accurate on some points, it fails on others. 1) FCC rules have no say on copyright law. 2) Also, ChatGPT's answer on Fair Use is simplistic and useless. Fair Use is a legal defense only, and is therefore subject to the knowledge and whims of each judge who hears a Fair Use case. -Ken Freedman On Fri, Mar 3, 2023 at 12:02?PM kenya lewis via grc wrote: > Interesting. I think: > > You?d need permission or for the material to be in the public domain, > (published prior to 1923) > > You may be able to argue it is educational but ethically that is made more > gray b.c you are using someone else?s work for your station?s benefit with > none to the content creators > > I?m doing some tests for work, so here is the answer from Chat GPT: > > Under FCC rules, non-commercial educational (NCE) broadcast stations are > generally subject to the same copyright laws as commercial broadcast > stations. Therefore, reading a published short story on a non-commercial > broadcast radio station without permission from the copyright holder could > still be considered a copyright violation. > > However, there are some exceptions under the law that may apply to NCE > stations. For example, Section 110 of the Copyright Act allows for certain > performances and displays of copyrighted works in the context of > face-to-face teaching activities at non-profit educational institutions. > Additionally, the fair use doctrine may allow for certain limited use of > copyrighted material without permission for purposes such as criticism, > commentary, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, or research. > > If you are considering reading a published short story on a non-commercial > broadcast radio station, it's best to consult with legal counsel to > determine the specific copyright implications and any exceptions that may > apply. > > > > > > > > On Mar 3, 2023, at 7:28 AM, Katherine Stathis via grc < > grc at maillist.peak.org> wrote: > > > > ?Hi! We're seeking clear copyright guidelines surrounding the narration > of > > short stories, and if there are limitations for broadcasting, streaming, > or > > posting archived shows online. We're a bit confused on what's allowed and > > what's not, and we have a storyteller radio host in suspense. Any help is > > appreciated! > > > > Thank you, > > Kate > > > > Kate Stathis > > WAYO 104.3FM > > Rochester, NY > > _______________________________________________ > > grc mailing list > > grc at maillist.peak.org > > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > From stephanie at pacifica.org Fri Mar 3 09:53:27 2023 From: stephanie at pacifica.org (Pacifica Affiliates Unit Operations Coordinator) Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2023 11:53:27 -0600 Subject: [grc] Storytelling copyright guidelines In-Reply-To: References: <1AE6BC05-5C7E-4C75-9024-5A7E52D11DDD@gmail.com> Message-ID: Here is a good website for what's up to date in the public domain . Joseph McGuire did a nice tutorial on basic copyright stuff. Stephanie On Fri, Mar 3, 2023 at 11:42 AM Ken Freedman via grc wrote: > While the ChatGPT is accurate on some points, it fails on others. > > 1) FCC rules have no say on copyright law. > > 2) Also, ChatGPT's answer on Fair Use is simplistic and useless. Fair Use > is a legal defense only, and is therefore subject to the knowledge and > whims of each judge who hears a Fair Use case. > > -Ken Freedman > > On Fri, Mar 3, 2023 at 12:02?PM kenya lewis via grc > > wrote: > > > Interesting. I think: > > > > You?d need permission or for the material to be in the public domain, > > (published prior to 1923) > > > > You may be able to argue it is educational but ethically that is made > more > > gray b.c you are using someone else?s work for your station?s benefit > with > > none to the content creators > > > > I?m doing some tests for work, so here is the answer from Chat GPT: > > > > Under FCC rules, non-commercial educational (NCE) broadcast stations are > > generally subject to the same copyright laws as commercial broadcast > > stations. Therefore, reading a published short story on a non-commercial > > broadcast radio station without permission from the copyright holder > could > > still be considered a copyright violation. > > > > However, there are some exceptions under the law that may apply to NCE > > stations. For example, Section 110 of the Copyright Act allows for > certain > > performances and displays of copyrighted works in the context of > > face-to-face teaching activities at non-profit educational institutions. > > Additionally, the fair use doctrine may allow for certain limited use of > > copyrighted material without permission for purposes such as criticism, > > commentary, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, or research. > > > > If you are considering reading a published short story on a > non-commercial > > broadcast radio station, it's best to consult with legal counsel to > > determine the specific copyright implications and any exceptions that may > > apply. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 3, 2023, at 7:28 AM, Katherine Stathis via grc < > > grc at maillist.peak.org> wrote: > > > > > > ?Hi! We're seeking clear copyright guidelines surrounding the narration > > of > > > short stories, and if there are limitations for broadcasting, > streaming, > > or > > > posting archived shows online. We're a bit confused on what's allowed > and > > > what's not, and we have a storyteller radio host in suspense. Any help > is > > > appreciated! > > > > > > Thank you, > > > Kate > > > > > > Kate Stathis > > > WAYO 104.3FM > > > Rochester, NY > > > _______________________________________________ > > > grc mailing list > > > grc at maillist.peak.org > > > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > > _______________________________________________ > > grc mailing list > > grc at maillist.peak.org > > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > > > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > -- Stephanie Schubert Operations Coordinator Pacifica Affiliate Network stephanie at pacifica.org she/her/hers From kenyalewis at gmail.com Fri Mar 3 09:57:12 2023 From: kenyalewis at gmail.com (kenya lewis) Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2023 09:57:12 -0800 Subject: [grc] Storytelling copyright guidelines In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Nice, Ken. Thanks! Chat GPT also fictionalizes roughly 5% of the time in my experience so far. Including false attributions for quotes and unsubstantiated data. It is a decent starting point tho, moreso if your prompt is specific and you build on the initial question > On Mar 3, 2023, at 9:42 AM, Ken Freedman wrote: > > ? > While the ChatGPT is accurate on some points, it fails on others. > > 1) FCC rules have no say on copyright law. > > 2) Also, ChatGPT's answer on Fair Use is simplistic and useless. Fair Use is a legal defense only, and is therefore subject to the knowledge and whims of each judge who hears a Fair Use case. > > -Ken Freedman > >> On Fri, Mar 3, 2023 at 12:02?PM kenya lewis via grc wrote: >> Interesting. I think: >> >> You?d need permission or for the material to be in the public domain, (published prior to 1923) >> >> You may be able to argue it is educational but ethically that is made more gray b.c you are using someone else?s work for your station?s benefit with none to the content creators >> >> I?m doing some tests for work, so here is the answer from Chat GPT: >> >> Under FCC rules, non-commercial educational (NCE) broadcast stations are generally subject to the same copyright laws as commercial broadcast stations. Therefore, reading a published short story on a non-commercial broadcast radio station without permission from the copyright holder could still be considered a copyright violation. >> >> However, there are some exceptions under the law that may apply to NCE stations. For example, Section 110 of the Copyright Act allows for certain performances and displays of copyrighted works in the context of face-to-face teaching activities at non-profit educational institutions. Additionally, the fair use doctrine may allow for certain limited use of copyrighted material without permission for purposes such as criticism, commentary, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, or research. >> >> If you are considering reading a published short story on a non-commercial broadcast radio station, it's best to consult with legal counsel to determine the specific copyright implications and any exceptions that may apply. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > On Mar 3, 2023, at 7:28 AM, Katherine Stathis via grc wrote: >> > >> > ?Hi! We're seeking clear copyright guidelines surrounding the narration of >> > short stories, and if there are limitations for broadcasting, streaming, or >> > posting archived shows online. We're a bit confused on what's allowed and >> > what's not, and we have a storyteller radio host in suspense. Any help is >> > appreciated! >> > >> > Thank you, >> > Kate >> > >> > Kate Stathis >> > WAYO 104.3FM >> > Rochester, NY >> > _______________________________________________ >> > grc mailing list >> > grc at maillist.peak.org >> > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc >> _______________________________________________ >> grc mailing list >> grc at maillist.peak.org >> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc From spencer.graves at effectivedefense.org Fri Mar 3 10:50:22 2023 From: spencer.graves at effectivedefense.org (Spencer Graves) Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2023 12:50:22 -0600 Subject: [grc] Storytelling copyright guidelines In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <471632da-580a-01b8-39ee-9363574aedba@effectivedefense.org> Hi, Kate et al.: I am NOT a lawyer, but been irritated repeatedly by copyright law since the 1970s.[1] Do you use Spinatron or something similar for music? If yes, can you ask them if their service could be used for the narrations of short stories that you have in mind? If yes, then you probably want to use them unless you can document a copyright exemption. With narrating a short story, there could be multiple copyrights involved: (1) the story. (2) the narrator(s). (3) the editors. If the story was published before 1923, then it's in the public domain. Otherwise, you will need permission from the author of the story. If the narrator(s) and editor(s) work with you, then you want them to sign a copyright release. I recommend the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike (CC BY-SA) 4.0 International license: It gives anyone license to do anything as long as they cite where they got it ("BY") and use the same license on any revisions ("SA"). That's what is most commonly used by Wikipedia and other Wikimedia Foundation projects. If this is not enough, you need to know "fair use" doctrine. That involves four factors:[2] 1. the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes: If you are using it for fund raising, this could be a problem. If not, you should score well under this factor, because you are a 501(c)(3) under the Multi-Use Community Cultural Center (MuCCC) in Rochester. However, this is not enough by itself to allow you to use copyrighted material. 2. the nature of the copyrighted work: Copyright protection for music and poetry is probably stronger than for short stories or a photograph of a public building in the US. Bottom line: Copyright protection for a short story would likely be fairly strong. It could mitigate allowing you to broadcast a short story without explicit permission from the copyright holder for the short story. If you cannot FIND the copyright holder, you would be wise not to use it. Existing US copyright law is a monument to political corruption: You could lose a suit for infringing a copyright, even if you couldn't find the copyright owner until after they threatened you with a lawsuit. 3. the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole: If you were broadcasting only modest portions of a short story for purposes of critical comparison with other works, that would be "fair use". Broadcasting an entire story would likely NOT be considered "fair use". 4. and the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work: If your broadcast encouraged other people to buy a copy of the work -- or buy other things by the same author or from a distributor who owns the copyright -- then you might get credits from that towards claiming "fair use". MY BOTTOM LINE after thinking about this: You need to be very careful with this. If a service like Spinatron will allow you to log uses with them, then you should be fine. Otherwise, you need to be careful about the copyright. Hope this helps. Spencer Graves, PhD Program Associate, 90.1 FM, KKFI.org, Kansas City Community Radio 4550 Warwick Blvd 508 Kansas City, MO 64111 m: 408-655-4567 [1] I have over 30 published technical papers. For most of those, I was required to sign over the copyright "as a work made for hire" to the publisher, even though I have never received a penny in copyright royalties and would have to pay to get a copy of my own work! My article on "Do copyrights and paywalls on academic journals violate the US Constitution?" is scheduled to appear this month in Real-World Economics Review. A prepublication version is available at: https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Do_copyrights_and_paywalls_on_academic_journals_violate_the_US_Constitution%3F [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use#U.S._fair_use_factors [3] If you https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WAYO-LP On 3/3/23 11:57 AM, kenya lewis via grc wrote: > Nice, Ken. Thanks! > > Chat GPT also fictionalizes roughly 5% of the time in my experience so far. Including false attributions for quotes and unsubstantiated data. It is a decent starting point tho, moreso if your prompt is specific and you build on the initial question > >> On Mar 3, 2023, at 9:42 AM, Ken Freedman wrote: >> >> ? >> While the ChatGPT is accurate on some points, it fails on others. >> >> 1) FCC rules have no say on copyright law. >> >> 2) Also, ChatGPT's answer on Fair Use is simplistic and useless. Fair Use is a legal defense only, and is therefore subject to the knowledge and whims of each judge who hears a Fair Use case. >> >> -Ken Freedman >> >>> On Fri, Mar 3, 2023 at 12:02?PM kenya lewis via grc wrote: >>> Interesting. I think: >>> >>> You?d need permission or for the material to be in the public domain, (published prior to 1923) >>> >>> You may be able to argue it is educational but ethically that is made more gray b.c you are using someone else?s work for your station?s benefit with none to the content creators >>> >>> I?m doing some tests for work, so here is the answer from Chat GPT: >>> >>> Under FCC rules, non-commercial educational (NCE) broadcast stations are generally subject to the same copyright laws as commercial broadcast stations. Therefore, reading a published short story on a non-commercial broadcast radio station without permission from the copyright holder could still be considered a copyright violation. >>> >>> However, there are some exceptions under the law that may apply to NCE stations. For example, Section 110 of the Copyright Act allows for certain performances and displays of copyrighted works in the context of face-to-face teaching activities at non-profit educational institutions. Additionally, the fair use doctrine may allow for certain limited use of copyrighted material without permission for purposes such as criticism, commentary, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, or research. >>> >>> If you are considering reading a published short story on a non-commercial broadcast radio station, it's best to consult with legal counsel to determine the specific copyright implications and any exceptions that may apply. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Mar 3, 2023, at 7:28 AM, Katherine Stathis via grc wrote: >>>> >>>> ?Hi! We're seeking clear copyright guidelines surrounding the narration of >>>> short stories, and if there are limitations for broadcasting, streaming, or >>>> posting archived shows online. We're a bit confused on what's allowed and >>>> what's not, and we have a storyteller radio host in suspense. Any help is >>>> appreciated! >>>> >>>> Thank you, >>>> Kate >>>> >>>> Kate Stathis >>>> WAYO 104.3FM >>>> Rochester, NY >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> grc mailing list >>>> grc at maillist.peak.org >>>> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc >>> _______________________________________________ >>> grc mailing list >>> grc at maillist.peak.org >>> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc From kenyalewis at gmail.com Fri Mar 3 10:55:21 2023 From: kenyalewis at gmail.com (kenya lewis) Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2023 10:55:21 -0800 Subject: [grc] Storytelling copyright guidelines In-Reply-To: <471632da-580a-01b8-39ee-9363574aedba@effectivedefense.org> References: <471632da-580a-01b8-39ee-9363574aedba@effectivedefense.org> Message-ID: Yeah, Spencer! Big Spinatron fan. Eva contact info is: eva at spinitron.com > On Mar 3, 2023, at 10:50 AM, Spencer Graves wrote: > > ?Hi, Kate et al.: > > > I am NOT a lawyer, but been irritated repeatedly by copyright law since the 1970s.[1] > > > Do you use Spinatron or something similar for music? If yes, can you ask them if their service could be used for the narrations of short stories that you have in mind? If yes, then you probably want to use them unless you can document a copyright exemption. > > > With narrating a short story, there could be multiple copyrights involved: (1) the story. (2) the narrator(s). (3) the editors. If the story was published before 1923, then it's in the public domain. Otherwise, you will need permission from the author of the story. If the narrator(s) and editor(s) work with you, then you want them to sign a copyright release. I recommend the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike (CC BY-SA) 4.0 International license: It gives anyone license to do anything as long as they cite where they got it ("BY") and use the same license on any revisions ("SA"). That's what is most commonly used by Wikipedia and other Wikimedia Foundation projects. > > > If this is not enough, you need to know "fair use" doctrine. That involves four factors:[2] > > > 1. the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes: If you are using it for fund raising, this could be a problem. If not, you should score well under this factor, because you are a 501(c)(3) under the Multi-Use Community Cultural Center (MuCCC) in Rochester. However, this is not enough by itself to allow you to use copyrighted material. > > > 2. the nature of the copyrighted work: Copyright protection for music and poetry is probably stronger than for short stories or a photograph of a public building in the US. Bottom line: Copyright protection for a short story would likely be fairly strong. It could mitigate allowing you to broadcast a short story without explicit permission from the copyright holder for the short story. If you cannot FIND the copyright holder, you would be wise not to use it. Existing US copyright law is a monument to political corruption: You could lose a suit for infringing a copyright, even if you couldn't find the copyright owner until after they threatened you with a lawsuit. > > > 3. the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole: If you were broadcasting only modest portions of a short story for purposes of critical comparison with other works, that would be "fair use". Broadcasting an entire story would likely NOT be considered "fair use". > > > 4. and the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work: If your broadcast encouraged other people to buy a copy of the work -- or buy other things by the same author or from a distributor who owns the copyright -- then you might get credits from that towards claiming "fair use". > > > MY BOTTOM LINE after thinking about this: You need to be very careful with this. If a service like Spinatron will allow you to log uses with them, then you should be fine. Otherwise, you need to be careful about the copyright. > > > Hope this helps. > Spencer Graves, PhD > Program Associate, 90.1 FM, KKFI.org, Kansas City Community Radio > 4550 Warwick Blvd 508 > Kansas City, MO 64111 > m: 408-655-4567 > > > [1] I have over 30 published technical papers. For most of those, I was required to sign over the copyright "as a work made for hire" to the publisher, even though I have never received a penny in copyright royalties and would have to pay to get a copy of my own work! My article on "Do copyrights and paywalls on academic journals violate the US Constitution?" is scheduled to appear this month in Real-World Economics Review. A prepublication version is available at: > > > https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Do_copyrights_and_paywalls_on_academic_journals_violate_the_US_Constitution%3F > > > [2] > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use#U.S._fair_use_factors > > > [3] If you > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WAYO-LP > > > >> On 3/3/23 11:57 AM, kenya lewis via grc wrote: >> Nice, Ken. Thanks! >> Chat GPT also fictionalizes roughly 5% of the time in my experience so far. Including false attributions for quotes and unsubstantiated data. It is a decent starting point tho, moreso if your prompt is specific and you build on the initial question >>>> On Mar 3, 2023, at 9:42 AM, Ken Freedman wrote: >>> >>> ? >>> While the ChatGPT is accurate on some points, it fails on others. >>> >>> 1) FCC rules have no say on copyright law. >>> >>> 2) Also, ChatGPT's answer on Fair Use is simplistic and useless. Fair Use is a legal defense only, and is therefore subject to the knowledge and whims of each judge who hears a Fair Use case. >>> >>> -Ken Freedman >>> >>>> On Fri, Mar 3, 2023 at 12:02?PM kenya lewis via grc wrote: >>>> Interesting. I think: >>>> >>>> You?d need permission or for the material to be in the public domain, (published prior to 1923) >>>> >>>> You may be able to argue it is educational but ethically that is made more gray b.c you are using someone else?s work for your station?s benefit with none to the content creators >>>> >>>> I?m doing some tests for work, so here is the answer from Chat GPT: >>>> >>>> Under FCC rules, non-commercial educational (NCE) broadcast stations are generally subject to the same copyright laws as commercial broadcast stations. Therefore, reading a published short story on a non-commercial broadcast radio station without permission from the copyright holder could still be considered a copyright violation. >>>> >>>> However, there are some exceptions under the law that may apply to NCE stations. For example, Section 110 of the Copyright Act allows for certain performances and displays of copyrighted works in the context of face-to-face teaching activities at non-profit educational institutions. Additionally, the fair use doctrine may allow for certain limited use of copyrighted material without permission for purposes such as criticism, commentary, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, or research. >>>> >>>> If you are considering reading a published short story on a non-commercial broadcast radio station, it's best to consult with legal counsel to determine the specific copyright implications and any exceptions that may apply. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Mar 3, 2023, at 7:28 AM, Katherine Stathis via grc wrote: >>>>> >>>>> ?Hi! We're seeking clear copyright guidelines surrounding the narration of >>>>> short stories, and if there are limitations for broadcasting, streaming, or >>>>> posting archived shows online. We're a bit confused on what's allowed and >>>>> what's not, and we have a storyteller radio host in suspense. Any help is >>>>> appreciated! >>>>> >>>>> Thank you, >>>>> Kate >>>>> >>>>> Kate Stathis >>>>> WAYO 104.3FM >>>>> Rochester, NY >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> grc mailing list >>>>> grc at maillist.peak.org >>>>> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> grc mailing list >>>> grc at maillist.peak.org >>>> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc >> _______________________________________________ >> grc mailing list >> grc at maillist.peak.org >> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc From stathika at gmail.com Fri Mar 3 12:30:24 2023 From: stathika at gmail.com (Katherine Stathis) Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2023 15:30:24 -0500 Subject: [grc] Storytelling copyright guidelines In-Reply-To: References: <471632da-580a-01b8-39ee-9363574aedba@effectivedefense.org> Message-ID: Wow, thanks everyone! Kate On Fri, Mar 3, 2023 at 1:55?PM kenya lewis via grc wrote: > Yeah, Spencer! > > Big Spinatron fan. Eva contact info is: eva at spinitron.com > > > On Mar 3, 2023, at 10:50 AM, Spencer Graves < > spencer.graves at effectivedefense.org> wrote: > > > > ?Hi, Kate et al.: > > > > > > I am NOT a lawyer, but been irritated repeatedly by copyright law > since the 1970s.[1] > > > > > > Do you use Spinatron or something similar for music? If yes, can > you ask them if their service could be used for the narrations of short > stories that you have in mind? If yes, then you probably want to use them > unless you can document a copyright exemption. > > > > > > With narrating a short story, there could be multiple copyrights > involved: (1) the story. (2) the narrator(s). (3) the editors. If the > story was published before 1923, then it's in the public domain. Otherwise, > you will need permission from the author of the story. If the narrator(s) > and editor(s) work with you, then you want them to sign a copyright > release. I recommend the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike (CC > BY-SA) 4.0 International license: It gives anyone license to do anything as > long as they cite where they got it ("BY") and use the same license on any > revisions ("SA"). That's what is most commonly used by Wikipedia and other > Wikimedia Foundation projects. > > > > > > If this is not enough, you need to know "fair use" doctrine. That > involves four factors:[2] > > > > > > 1. the purpose and character of the use, including whether > such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational > purposes: If you are using it for fund raising, this could be a problem. > If not, you should score well under this factor, because you are a > 501(c)(3) under the Multi-Use Community Cultural Center (MuCCC) in > Rochester. However, this is not enough by itself to allow you to use > copyrighted material. > > > > > > 2. the nature of the copyrighted work: Copyright protection > for music and poetry is probably stronger than for short stories or a > photograph of a public building in the US. Bottom line: Copyright > protection for a short story would likely be fairly strong. It could > mitigate allowing you to broadcast a short story without explicit > permission from the copyright holder for the short story. If you cannot > FIND the copyright holder, you would be wise not to use it. Existing US > copyright law is a monument to political corruption: You could lose a suit > for infringing a copyright, even if you couldn't find the copyright owner > until after they threatened you with a lawsuit. > > > > > > 3. the amount and substantiality of the portion used in > relation to the copyrighted work as a whole: If you were broadcasting only > modest portions of a short story for purposes of critical comparison with > other works, that would be "fair use". Broadcasting an entire story would > likely NOT be considered "fair use". > > > > > > 4. and the effect of the use upon the potential market for > or value of the copyrighted work: If your broadcast encouraged other > people to buy a copy of the work -- or buy other things by the same author > or from a distributor who owns the copyright -- then you might get credits > from that towards claiming "fair use". > > > > > > MY BOTTOM LINE after thinking about this: You need to be very > careful with this. If a service like Spinatron will allow you to log uses > with them, then you should be fine. Otherwise, you need to be careful > about the copyright. > > > > > > Hope this helps. > > Spencer Graves, PhD > > Program Associate, 90.1 FM, KKFI.org, Kansas City Community Radio > > 4550 Warwick Blvd 508 > > Kansas City, MO 64111 > > m: 408-655-4567 > > > > > > [1] I have over 30 published technical papers. For most of those, I was > required to sign over the copyright "as a work made for hire" to the > publisher, even though I have never received a penny in copyright royalties > and would have to pay to get a copy of my own work! My article on "Do > copyrights and paywalls on academic journals violate the US Constitution?" > is scheduled to appear this month in Real-World Economics Review. A > prepublication version is available at: > > > > > > > https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Do_copyrights_and_paywalls_on_academic_journals_violate_the_US_Constitution%3F > > > > > > [2] > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use#U.S._fair_use_factors > > > > > > [3] If you > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WAYO-LP > > > > > > > >> On 3/3/23 11:57 AM, kenya lewis via grc wrote: > >> Nice, Ken. Thanks! > >> Chat GPT also fictionalizes roughly 5% of the time in my experience so > far. Including false attributions for quotes and unsubstantiated data. It > is a decent starting point tho, moreso if your prompt is specific and you > build on the initial question > >>>> On Mar 3, 2023, at 9:42 AM, Ken Freedman wrote: > >>> > >>> ? > >>> While the ChatGPT is accurate on some points, it fails on others. > >>> > >>> 1) FCC rules have no say on copyright law. > >>> > >>> 2) Also, ChatGPT's answer on Fair Use is simplistic and useless. Fair > Use is a legal defense only, and is therefore subject to the knowledge and > whims of each judge who hears a Fair Use case. > >>> > >>> -Ken Freedman > >>> > >>>> On Fri, Mar 3, 2023 at 12:02?PM kenya lewis via grc < > grc at maillist.peak.org> wrote: > >>>> Interesting. I think: > >>>> > >>>> You?d need permission or for the material to be in the public domain, > (published prior to 1923) > >>>> > >>>> You may be able to argue it is educational but ethically that is made > more gray b.c you are using someone else?s work for your station?s benefit > with none to the content creators > >>>> > >>>> I?m doing some tests for work, so here is the answer from Chat GPT: > >>>> > >>>> Under FCC rules, non-commercial educational (NCE) broadcast stations > are generally subject to the same copyright laws as commercial broadcast > stations. Therefore, reading a published short story on a non-commercial > broadcast radio station without permission from the copyright holder could > still be considered a copyright violation. > >>>> > >>>> However, there are some exceptions under the law that may apply to > NCE stations. For example, Section 110 of the Copyright Act allows for > certain performances and displays of copyrighted works in the context of > face-to-face teaching activities at non-profit educational institutions. > Additionally, the fair use doctrine may allow for certain limited use of > copyrighted material without permission for purposes such as criticism, > commentary, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, or research. > >>>> > >>>> If you are considering reading a published short story on a > non-commercial broadcast radio station, it's best to consult with legal > counsel to determine the specific copyright implications and any exceptions > that may apply. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> On Mar 3, 2023, at 7:28 AM, Katherine Stathis via grc < > grc at maillist.peak.org> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> ?Hi! We're seeking clear copyright guidelines surrounding the > narration of > >>>>> short stories, and if there are limitations for broadcasting, > streaming, or > >>>>> posting archived shows online. We're a bit confused on what's > allowed and > >>>>> what's not, and we have a storyteller radio host in suspense. Any > help is > >>>>> appreciated! > >>>>> > >>>>> Thank you, > >>>>> Kate > >>>>> > >>>>> Kate Stathis > >>>>> WAYO 104.3FM > >>>>> Rochester, NY > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> grc mailing list > >>>>> grc at maillist.peak.org > >>>>> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> grc mailing list > >>>> grc at maillist.peak.org > >>>> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > >> _______________________________________________ > >> grc mailing list > >> grc at maillist.peak.org > >> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > From spencer.graves at effectivedefense.org Sat Mar 4 07:01:32 2023 From: spencer.graves at effectivedefense.org (Spencer Graves) Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2023 09:01:32 -0600 Subject: [grc] Spinatron has no expertise with non-music In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <99042021-7a9e-7de4-a84b-3ac20452ee62@effectivedefense.org> Hello, All: Kenya Lewis suggested I ask Eva Papp if Spinatron could handle this. I did. Short answer: No. See below. I also asked Bill Clause, who does theater, including radio theater on KKFI. He said they do all original material. That makes the copyright questions easy. CONCLUSION: My recommendation: If you do not have clear copyright permission, don't mess with it. Write your own short stories if you want. I am not a lawyer, but I think you could easily provide a brief summary -- possibly including quotes of, say, 10 percent of the story -- then say that in your opinion, the author misunderstood the characters and the story and give your own version that could have a very different ending. Then it's your original work, critiquing the original author, and inviting the audience to research the original story and tell you which version they like best ;-) You could invite your audience to contribute other versions -- maybe build a competition. I'm just brainstorming, but something like this might help build your audience while also keeping you clean regarding copyright law. Hope this helps. Spencer Graves -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Re: Does Spinatron support reading other copyrighted material? Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2023 08:55:10 -0500 From: Eva Papp To: Spencer Graves Hi Spencer, You can enter some basic non-music related items like PSAs, Station ID, mic breaks, guest interviews, etc, but?Spinitron is really for music. While we have years of experience handling music copyright issues, we have no expertise at all regarding copyright issues of non-music material. I?m sorry we can?t help with this any better. Good luck finding the answer. Best, -Eva *** Eva Papp ?| Spinitron eva at spinitron.com 617-233-3115 > On Mar 3, 2023, at 4:40 PM, Spencer Graves > wrote: > > Dear Ms. Papp: > > > ?Is Spinatron solely for music? > > > ?I ask, because Katherine Stathis with WAYO in Rochester, NY, asked > about copyright issues with reading short stories on the air. ?I'm not > a lawyer, but I know some about copyright law, and I said the simplest > thing would be if Spinatron could handle that for them. ?See the > thread below. > > > Thanks, > Spencer Graves, PhD > Program Associate, 90.1 FM, KKFI.org, Kansas City Community Radio > 4550 Warwick Blvd 508 > Kansas City, MO 64111 > m: ?408-655-4567 > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject: Re: [grc] Storytelling copyright guidelines > Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2023 15:30:24 -0500 > From: Katherine Stathis > To: kenya lewis > CC: Spencer Graves , > ken at wfmu.org, grc at maillist.peak.org > > > > Wow, thanks everyone! > > Kate > > On Fri, Mar 3, 2023 at 1:55?PM kenya lewis via grc > > wrote: > > ???Yeah, Spencer! > > ???Big Spinatron fan. Eva contact info is: eva at spinitron.com > ??? > > ????> On Mar 3, 2023, at 10:50 AM, Spencer Graves > ??? ???> wrote: > ????> > ????> ?Hi, Kate et al.: > ????> > ????> > ????>? ? ? I am NOT a lawyer, but been irritated repeatedly by > ???copyright law since the 1970s.[1] > ????> > ????> > ????>? ? ? Do you use Spinatron or something similar for music?? If > ???yes, can you ask them if their service could be used for the > ???narrations of short stories that you have in mind?? If yes, then you > ???probably want to use them unless you can document a copyright > exemption. > ????> > ????> > ????>? ? ? With narrating a short story, there could be multiple > ???copyrights involved:? (1) the story.? (2) the narrator(s).? (3) the > ???editors.? If the story was published before 1923, then it's in the > ???public domain. Otherwise, you will need permission from the author > ???of the story.? If the narrator(s) and editor(s) work with you, then > ???you want them to sign a copyright release.? I recommend the Creative > ???Commons Attribution-ShareAlike (CC BY-SA) 4.0 International license: > ???It gives anyone license to do anything as long as they cite where > ???they got it ("BY") and use the same license on any revisions > ???("SA").? That's what is most commonly used by Wikipedia and other > ???Wikimedia Foundation projects. > ????> > ????> > ????>? ? ? If this is not enough, you need to know "fair use" > ???doctrine.? That involves four factors:[2] > ????> > ????> > ????>? ? ? ? ? ? 1.? the purpose and character of the use, including > ???whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit > ???educational purposes: If you are using it for fund raising, this > ???could be a problem.? If not, you should score well under this > ???factor, because you are a 501(c)(3) under the Multi-Use Community > ???Cultural Center (MuCCC) in Rochester. However, this is not enough by > ???itself to allow you to use copyrighted material. > ????> > ????> > ????>? ? ? ? ? ? 2.? the nature of the copyrighted work:? Copyright > ???protection for music and poetry is probably stronger than for short > ???stories or a photograph of a public building in the US. Bottom > ???line:? Copyright protection for a short story would likely be fairly > ???strong.? It could mitigate allowing you to broadcast a short story > ???without explicit permission from the copyright holder for the short > ???story.? If you cannot FIND the copyright holder, you would be wise > ???not to use it.? Existing US copyright law is a monument to political > ???corruption:? You could lose a suit for infringing a copyright, even > ???if you couldn't find the copyright owner until after they threatened > ???you with a lawsuit. > ????> > ????> > ????>? ? ? ? ? ? 3.? the amount and substantiality of the portion used > ???in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole:? If you were > ???broadcasting only modest portions of a short story for purposes of > ???critical comparison with other works, that would be "fair use". > ???Broadcasting an entire story would likely NOT be considered "fair use". > ????> > ????> > ????>? ? ? ? ? ? 4.? and the effect of the use upon the potential > ???market for or value of the copyrighted work:? If your broadcast > ???encouraged other people to buy a copy of the work -- or buy other > ???things by the same author or from a distributor who owns the > ???copyright -- then you might get credits from that towards claiming > ???"fair use". > ????> > ????> > ????>? ? ? MY BOTTOM LINE after thinking about this:? You need to be > ???very careful with this.? If a service like Spinatron will allow you > ???to log uses with them, then you should be fine.? Otherwise, you need > ???to be careful about the copyright. > ????> > ????> > ????> Hope this helps. > ????> Spencer Graves, PhD > ????> Program Associate, 90.1 FM, KKFI.org, Kansas City Community Radio > ????> 4550 Warwick Blvd 508 > ????> Kansas City, MO 64111 > ????> m:? 408-655-4567 > ????> > ????> > ????> [1] I have over 30 published technical papers.? For most of > ???those, I was required to sign over the copyright "as a work made for > ???hire" to the publisher, even though I have never received a penny in > ???copyright royalties and would have to pay to get a copy of my own > ???work!? My article on "Do copyrights and paywalls on academic > ???journals violate the US Constitution?" is scheduled to appear this > ???month in Real-World Economics Review.? A prepublication version is > ???available at: > ????> > ????> > ????> > https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Do_copyrights_and_paywalls_on_academic_journals_violate_the_US_Constitution%3F > > ????> > ????> > ????> [2] > ????> > ????> > ????> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use#U.S._fair_use_factors > ??? > ????> > ????> > ????> [3] If you > ????> > ????> > ????> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WAYO-LP > ??? > ????> > ????> > ????> > ????>> On 3/3/23 11:57 AM, kenya lewis via grc wrote: > ????>> Nice, Ken. Thanks! > ????>> Chat GPT also fictionalizes roughly 5% of the time in my > ???experience so far. Including false attributions for quotes and > ???unsubstantiated data. It is a decent starting point tho, moreso if > ???your prompt is specific and you build on the initial question > ????>>>> On Mar 3, 2023, at 9:42 AM, Ken Freedman ???> wrote: > ????>>> > ????>>> ? > ????>>> While the ChatGPT is accurate on some points, it fails on others. > ????>>> > ????>>> 1) FCC rules have no say on copyright law. > ????>>> > ????>>> 2) Also, ChatGPT's answer on Fair Use is simplistic and > ???useless. Fair Use is a legal defense only, and is therefore subject > ???to the knowledge and whims of each judge who hears a Fair Use case. > ????>>> > ????>>> -Ken Freedman > ????>>> > ????>>>> On Fri, Mar 3, 2023 at 12:02?PM kenya lewis via grc > ???> wrote: > ????>>>> Interesting. I think: > ????>>>> > ????>>>> You?d need permission or for the material to be in the public > ???domain, (published prior to 1923) > ????>>>> > ????>>>> You may be able to argue it is educational but ethically that > ???is made more gray b.c you are using someone else?s work for your > ???station?s benefit with none to the content creators > ????>>>> > ????>>>> I?m doing some tests for work, so here is the answer from Chat > ???GPT: > ????>>>> > ????>>>> Under FCC rules, non-commercial educational (NCE) broadcast > ???stations are generally subject to the same copyright laws as > ???commercial broadcast stations. Therefore, reading a published short > ???story on a non-commercial broadcast radio station without permission > ???from the copyright holder could still be considered a copyright > ???violation. > ????>>>> > ????>>>> However, there are some exceptions under the law that may > ???apply to NCE stations. For example, Section 110 of the Copyright Act > ???allows for certain performances and displays of copyrighted works in > ???the context of face-to-face teaching activities at non-profit > ???educational institutions. Additionally, the fair use doctrine may > ???allow for certain limited use of copyrighted material without > ???permission for purposes such as criticism, commentary, news > ???reporting, teaching, scholarship, or research. > ????>>>> > ????>>>> If you are considering reading a published short story on a > ???non-commercial broadcast radio station, it's best to consult with > ???legal counsel to determine the specific copyright implications and > ???any exceptions that may apply. > ????>>>> > ????>>>> > ????>>>> > ????>>>> > ????>>>> > ????>>>> > ????>>>>> On Mar 3, 2023, at 7:28 AM, Katherine Stathis via grc > ???> wrote: > ????>>>>> > ????>>>>> ?Hi! We're seeking clear copyright guidelines surrounding the > ???narration of > ????>>>>> short stories, and if there are limitations for broadcasting, > ???streaming, or > ????>>>>> posting archived shows online. We're a bit confused on what's > ???allowed and > ????>>>>> what's not, and we have a storyteller radio host in suspense. > ???Any help is > ????>>>>> appreciated! > ????>>>>> > ????>>>>> Thank you, > ????>>>>> Kate > ????>>>>> > ????>>>>> Kate Stathis > ????>>>>> WAYO 104.3FM > > ????>>>>> Rochester, NY > ????>>>>> _______________________________________________ > ????>>>>> grc mailing list > ????>>>>> grc at maillist.peak.org > ????>>>>> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > ??? > ????>>>> _______________________________________________ > ????>>>> grc mailing list > ????>>>> grc at maillist.peak.org > ????>>>> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > ??? > ????>> _______________________________________________ > ????>> grc mailing list > ????>> grc at maillist.peak.org > ????>> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > ??? > ???_______________________________________________ > ???grc mailing list > ???grc at maillist.peak.org > ???http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > ??? > From kenyalewis at gmail.com Sat Mar 4 08:08:24 2023 From: kenyalewis at gmail.com (kenya lewis) Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2023 08:08:24 -0800 Subject: [grc] Spinatron has no expertise with non-music In-Reply-To: <99042021-7a9e-7de4-a84b-3ac20452ee62@effectivedefense.org> References: <99042021-7a9e-7de4-a84b-3ac20452ee62@effectivedefense.org> Message-ID: <94DEAD46-2F9D-4BE5-8C31-307C313A57A0@gmail.com> actually, spencer suggested it. i simply like spinatron a great deal and shared eva?s contact info. i don?t believe they license or make it so you can pay royalties on short stories. > On Mar 4, 2023, at 7:01 AM, Spencer Graves via grc wrote: > > ?Hello, All: > > > Kenya Lewis suggested I ask Eva Papp if Spinatron could handle this. I did. Short answer: No. See below. > > > I also asked Bill Clause, who does theater, including radio theater on KKFI. He said they do all original material. That makes the copyright questions easy. > > > CONCLUSION: My recommendation: If you do not have clear copyright permission, don't mess with it. Write your own short stories if you want. I am not a lawyer, but I think you could easily provide a brief summary -- possibly including quotes of, say, 10 percent of the story -- then say that in your opinion, the author misunderstood the characters and the story and give your own version that could have a very different ending. Then it's your original work, critiquing the original author, and inviting the audience to research the original story and tell you which version they like best ;-) You could invite your audience to contribute other versions -- maybe build a competition. I'm just brainstorming, but something like this might help build your audience while also keeping you clean regarding copyright law. > > > Hope this helps. > Spencer Graves > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject: Re: Does Spinatron support reading other copyrighted material? > Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2023 08:55:10 -0500 > From: Eva Papp > To: Spencer Graves > > > > Hi Spencer, > > You can enter some basic non-music related items like PSAs, Station ID, mic breaks, guest interviews, etc, but Spinitron is really for music. While we have years of experience handling music copyright issues, we have no expertise at all regarding copyright issues of non-music material. > > I?m sorry we can?t help with this any better. Good luck finding the answer. > > Best, > -Eva > *** > Eva Papp | Spinitron > eva at spinitron.com > 617-233-3115 > > >> On Mar 3, 2023, at 4:40 PM, Spencer Graves wrote: >> >> Dear Ms. Papp: >> >> >> Is Spinatron solely for music? >> >> >> I ask, because Katherine Stathis with WAYO in Rochester, NY, asked about copyright issues with reading short stories on the air. I'm not a lawyer, but I know some about copyright law, and I said the simplest thing would be if Spinatron could handle that for them. See the thread below. >> >> >> Thanks, >> Spencer Graves, PhD >> Program Associate, 90.1 FM, KKFI.org, Kansas City Community Radio >> 4550 Warwick Blvd 508 >> Kansas City, MO 64111 >> m: 408-655-4567 >> >> >> -------- Forwarded Message -------- >> Subject: Re: [grc] Storytelling copyright guidelines >> Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2023 15:30:24 -0500 >> From: Katherine Stathis >> To: kenya lewis >> CC: Spencer Graves , ken at wfmu.org, grc at maillist.peak.org >> >> >> >> Wow, thanks everyone! >> >> Kate >> >> On Fri, Mar 3, 2023 at 1:55?PM kenya lewis via grc > wrote: >> >> Yeah, Spencer! >> >> Big Spinatron fan. Eva contact info is: eva at spinitron.com >> >> >> > On Mar 3, 2023, at 10:50 AM, Spencer Graves >> > > wrote: >> > >> > ?Hi, Kate et al.: >> > >> > >> > I am NOT a lawyer, but been irritated repeatedly by >> copyright law since the 1970s.[1] >> > >> > >> > Do you use Spinatron or something similar for music? If >> yes, can you ask them if their service could be used for the >> narrations of short stories that you have in mind? If yes, then you >> probably want to use them unless you can document a copyright exemption. >> > >> > >> > With narrating a short story, there could be multiple >> copyrights involved: (1) the story. (2) the narrator(s). (3) the >> editors. If the story was published before 1923, then it's in the >> public domain. Otherwise, you will need permission from the author >> of the story. If the narrator(s) and editor(s) work with you, then >> you want them to sign a copyright release. I recommend the Creative >> Commons Attribution-ShareAlike (CC BY-SA) 4.0 International license: >> It gives anyone license to do anything as long as they cite where >> they got it ("BY") and use the same license on any revisions >> ("SA"). That's what is most commonly used by Wikipedia and other >> Wikimedia Foundation projects. >> > >> > >> > If this is not enough, you need to know "fair use" >> doctrine. That involves four factors:[2] >> > >> > >> > 1. the purpose and character of the use, including >> whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit >> educational purposes: If you are using it for fund raising, this >> could be a problem. If not, you should score well under this >> factor, because you are a 501(c)(3) under the Multi-Use Community >> Cultural Center (MuCCC) in Rochester. However, this is not enough by >> itself to allow you to use copyrighted material. >> > >> > >> > 2. the nature of the copyrighted work: Copyright >> protection for music and poetry is probably stronger than for short >> stories or a photograph of a public building in the US. Bottom >> line: Copyright protection for a short story would likely be fairly >> strong. It could mitigate allowing you to broadcast a short story >> without explicit permission from the copyright holder for the short >> story. If you cannot FIND the copyright holder, you would be wise >> not to use it. Existing US copyright law is a monument to political >> corruption: You could lose a suit for infringing a copyright, even >> if you couldn't find the copyright owner until after they threatened >> you with a lawsuit. >> > >> > >> > 3. the amount and substantiality of the portion used >> in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole: If you were >> broadcasting only modest portions of a short story for purposes of >> critical comparison with other works, that would be "fair use". >> Broadcasting an entire story would likely NOT be considered "fair use". >> > >> > >> > 4. and the effect of the use upon the potential >> market for or value of the copyrighted work: If your broadcast >> encouraged other people to buy a copy of the work -- or buy other >> things by the same author or from a distributor who owns the >> copyright -- then you might get credits from that towards claiming >> "fair use". >> > >> > >> > MY BOTTOM LINE after thinking about this: You need to be >> very careful with this. If a service like Spinatron will allow you >> to log uses with them, then you should be fine. Otherwise, you need >> to be careful about the copyright. >> > >> > >> > Hope this helps. >> > Spencer Graves, PhD >> > Program Associate, 90.1 FM, KKFI.org, Kansas City Community Radio >> > 4550 Warwick Blvd 508 >> > Kansas City, MO 64111 >> > m: 408-655-4567 >> > >> > >> > [1] I have over 30 published technical papers. For most of >> those, I was required to sign over the copyright "as a work made for >> hire" to the publisher, even though I have never received a penny in >> copyright royalties and would have to pay to get a copy of my own >> work! My article on "Do copyrights and paywalls on academic >> journals violate the US Constitution?" is scheduled to appear this >> month in Real-World Economics Review. A prepublication version is >> available at: >> > >> > >> > >> https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Do_copyrights_and_paywalls_on_academic_journals_violate_the_US_Constitution%3F >> >> > >> > >> > [2] >> > >> > >> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use#U.S._fair_use_factors >> >> > >> > >> > [3] If you >> > >> > >> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WAYO-LP >> >> > >> > >> > >> >> On 3/3/23 11:57 AM, kenya lewis via grc wrote: >> >> Nice, Ken. Thanks! >> >> Chat GPT also fictionalizes roughly 5% of the time in my >> experience so far. Including false attributions for quotes and >> unsubstantiated data. It is a decent starting point tho, moreso if >> your prompt is specific and you build on the initial question >> >>>> On Mar 3, 2023, at 9:42 AM, Ken Freedman > > wrote: >> >>> >> >>> ? >> >>> While the ChatGPT is accurate on some points, it fails on others. >> >>> >> >>> 1) FCC rules have no say on copyright law. >> >>> >> >>> 2) Also, ChatGPT's answer on Fair Use is simplistic and >> useless. Fair Use is a legal defense only, and is therefore subject >> to the knowledge and whims of each judge who hears a Fair Use case. >> >>> >> >>> -Ken Freedman >> >>> >> >>>> On Fri, Mar 3, 2023 at 12:02?PM kenya lewis via grc >> > wrote: >> >>>> Interesting. I think: >> >>>> >> >>>> You?d need permission or for the material to be in the public >> domain, (published prior to 1923) >> >>>> >> >>>> You may be able to argue it is educational but ethically that >> is made more gray b.c you are using someone else?s work for your >> station?s benefit with none to the content creators >> >>>> >> >>>> I?m doing some tests for work, so here is the answer from Chat >> GPT: >> >>>> >> >>>> Under FCC rules, non-commercial educational (NCE) broadcast >> stations are generally subject to the same copyright laws as >> commercial broadcast stations. Therefore, reading a published short >> story on a non-commercial broadcast radio station without permission >> from the copyright holder could still be considered a copyright >> violation. >> >>>> >> >>>> However, there are some exceptions under the law that may >> apply to NCE stations. For example, Section 110 of the Copyright Act >> allows for certain performances and displays of copyrighted works in >> the context of face-to-face teaching activities at non-profit >> educational institutions. Additionally, the fair use doctrine may >> allow for certain limited use of copyrighted material without >> permission for purposes such as criticism, commentary, news >> reporting, teaching, scholarship, or research. >> >>>> >> >>>> If you are considering reading a published short story on a >> non-commercial broadcast radio station, it's best to consult with >> legal counsel to determine the specific copyright implications and >> any exceptions that may apply. >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>> On Mar 3, 2023, at 7:28 AM, Katherine Stathis via grc >> > wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> ?Hi! We're seeking clear copyright guidelines surrounding the >> narration of >> >>>>> short stories, and if there are limitations for broadcasting, >> streaming, or >> >>>>> posting archived shows online. We're a bit confused on what's >> allowed and >> >>>>> what's not, and we have a storyteller radio host in suspense. >> Any help is >> >>>>> appreciated! >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Thank you, >> >>>>> Kate >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Kate Stathis >> >>>>> WAYO 104.3FM > >> >>>>> Rochester, NY >> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>> grc mailing list >> >>>>> grc at maillist.peak.org >> >>>>> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc >> >> >>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>> grc mailing list >> >>>> grc at maillist.peak.org >> >>>> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> grc mailing list >> >> grc at maillist.peak.org >> >> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc >> >> _______________________________________________ >> grc mailing list >> grc at maillist.peak.org >> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc From mike at brownbroadcast.com Sat Mar 4 16:59:14 2023 From: mike at brownbroadcast.com (Michael D. Brown) Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2023 16:59:14 -0800 Subject: [grc] Sohn in trouble? Message-ID: <00a101d94efd$b4875240$1d95f6c0$@brownbroadcast.com> https://www.axios.com/2023/03/03/gigi-sohn-fcc-nomination Michael D. Brown Brown Broadcast Services, Inc. 3740 SW Comus St. ? Portland OR 97219-7418 USA mike at brownbroadcast.com ? www.brownbroadcast.com offc 503-245-6065 ? cell 503-703-3202 From mike at brownbroadcast.com Sun Mar 12 19:55:22 2023 From: mike at brownbroadcast.com (Michael D. Brown) Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2023 19:55:22 -0700 Subject: [grc] Radio for People Zoom Call - This Tuesday, March 14, ... 10AM PDT / 1PM EDT Message-ID: <006701d95557$4138d6a0$c3aa83e0$@brownbroadcast.com> RADIO FOR PEOPLE Zoom Call __ Tuesday, March 14, ... 10AM PDT / 1PM EDT Same Zoom link as last month. The link is not posted publicly. For a link to the meeting: betty at c-map.org Agenda (in progress) FCC Updates -Gigi Sohn withdraws her nomination - what?s next? -ETRS STILL accepting filings FCC Grants -NCE apps from most recent batch approved with lightning speed Station Updates Conferences and Training Michael D. Brown Brown Broadcast Services, Inc. 3740 SW Comus St. ? Portland OR 97219-7418 USA mike at brownbroadcast.com ? www.brownbroadcast.com offc 503-245-6065 ? cell 503-703-3202 From gm at artxfm.com Mon Mar 13 10:54:28 2023 From: gm at artxfm.com (Sharon Scott) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2023 13:54:28 -0400 Subject: [grc] GRC 2023 ???? In-Reply-To: <94DEAD46-2F9D-4BE5-8C31-307C313A57A0@gmail.com> References: <99042021-7a9e-7de4-a84b-3ac20452ee62@effectivedefense.org> <94DEAD46-2F9D-4BE5-8C31-307C313A57A0@gmail.com> Message-ID: <22e7aa4cec508de1a81871ea06935fcf@artxfm.com> GRC 2023 !?!?! WHO IS GAME?! It *seems* like things are getting back to business and it would be WONDERFUL to gather everyone together at a GRASSROOTS RADIO CONFERENCE this year! This will be an exciting event when it finally happens as I know everyone is SO READY to get together - - share all the millions of things we have learned during the pandemic hiatus. The GRC Conference is a freeform event hosted by a different community radio station in a different part of the country each year. It is such an important time for us all to get together to share ideas, techniques, and crazy radio stories. It has taken place in the fall recently but there have been many summertime GRCs. It is really up to the station that hosts it. If you are interested in hosting the next GRC Conference, please use the application below. GRC HOST STATION APPLICATION: https://forms.gle/BCfhv38EtLN2z1wV6 Hosting the conference is a great way to get the word out about your station, and if done correctly, can be an opportunity to raise funds for your operations. There is a small nest egg, a beautiful quilt, and a strong support system for get you started. However, the point is to keep it open to all members of the Community radio world and get as many stations involved as possible. You can learn more on the Virtual GRC website here: https://virtualgrc.org/ Spinitron has already stepped up to be a sponsor of this event whenever we can make it happen. I imagine some of the previous supporters will be willing to jump back on board as well! If your station is interested in hosting, please let us know through the application form above. There are many people that can help make it happen! We are seeking a location that is easy to access. There will need to be nearby accommodations both for housing and for conference sessions. The Grassroots Radio Conference Steering Committee - made up of representatives of stations who have hosted past GRC conferences, representatives from future GRC conference hosts, and representatives from the People of Color caucus is charged with determining the site of upcoming conferences. If this includes you, please reach out so we can begin get this show on the road! Best Wishes to All! Hope to see you soon! Sincerely, Sharon Scott, Co-Founder, General Manager WXOX - Host of the 2020 Virtual GRC *************************** Sharon M. Scott, Co-Founder & General Manager ARTxFM / WXOX 97.1 FM P.O. Box 5103 Louisville, Kentucky 40255 USA 502.640.6414 *************************** ARTxFM http://www.artxfm.com GET THE APP I-TUNES https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/id1205816500 Google Play https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wxox.wxox From mike at brownbroadcast.com Mon Mar 13 20:39:05 2023 From: mike at brownbroadcast.com (Michael D. Brown) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2023 20:39:05 -0700 Subject: [grc] RADIO FOR PEOPLE Zoom Call Tomorrow ( Tuesday), March 14, ... 10AM PDT / 1PM EDT Message-ID: <003e01d95626$871c5ff0$95551fd0$@brownbroadcast.com> RADIO FOR PEOPLE Zoom Call __ Tuesday, March 14, ... 10AM PDT / 1PM EDT Same Zoom link as last month. The link is not posted publicly. For a link to the meeting: betty at c-map.org Agenda (in progress) FCC Updates -Gigi Sohn withdraws her nomination - what?s next? -ETRS STILL accepting filings FCC Grants -NCE apps from most recent batch approved with lightning speed Station Updates Conferences and Training Michael D. Brown Brown Broadcast Services, Inc. 3740 SW Comus St. ? Portland OR 97219-7418 USA mike at brownbroadcast.com ? www.brownbroadcast.com offc 503-245-6065 ? cell 503-703-3202 From mike at brownbroadcast.com Tue Mar 14 08:29:57 2023 From: mike at brownbroadcast.com (Michael D. Brown) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2023 08:29:57 -0700 Subject: [grc] Zoom Call TODAY ( Tuesday), March 14 ... 10AM PDT / 1PM EDT Message-ID: <006101d95689$d5dcdcb0$81969610$@brownbroadcast.com> RADIO FOR PEOPLE Zoom Call TODAY Tuesday, March 14. 10AM PDT / 1PM EDT Same Zoom link as last month. The link is not posted publicly. For a link to the meeting: betty at c-map.org Agenda FCC Updates -Gigi Sohn withdraws her nomination - what?s next? -ETRS STILL accepting filings FCC Grants -NCE apps from most recent batch approved with lightning speed Station Updates Conferences and Training Michael D. Brown Brown Broadcast Services, Inc. 3740 SW Comus St. ? Portland OR 97219-7418 USA mike at brownbroadcast.com ? www.brownbroadcast.com offc 503-245-6065 ? cell 503-703-3202 From gm at artxfm.com Thu Mar 16 19:31:24 2023 From: gm at artxfm.com (Sharon Scott) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2023 22:31:24 -0400 Subject: [grc] GRC Meeting - Tues, March 29th at 8 PM ET In-Reply-To: <22e7aa4cec508de1a81871ea06935fcf@artxfm.com> References: <99042021-7a9e-7de4-a84b-3ac20452ee62@effectivedefense.org> <94DEAD46-2F9D-4BE5-8C31-307C313A57A0@gmail.com> <22e7aa4cec508de1a81871ea06935fcf@artxfm.com> Message-ID: Hello Everyone! There has been a lot of interest in re-starting the Grassroots Radio Conference. Let's meet up to talk -- and MAKE SOMETHING HAPPEN!!!! Tuesday, March 29th at 8 PM ET. All are welcome! ZOOM INVITE BELOW! Hope to see you there! ***** We are seeking a host station for 2023 -- could it be you?!?! GRC 2023 Station Host Application: https://forms.gle/sVX7Md1nnRhiZqMy8 ***** We are also seeking representatives from stations who have hosted the conference in the past so we can reconvene the GRC Steering Committee. If this is you, please click this link GRC Steering Committee Sign-Up: https://forms.gle/4himxqD5SFtCyzky6 ***** GRC 2023 MEET-UP ART FM is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting. Topic: GRC - Meet-Up Time: Mar 28, 2023 08:00 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada) Join Zoom Meeting https://us02web.zoom.us/j/87297790414 Meeting ID: 872 9779 0414 One tap mobile +13092053325,,87297790414# US +13126266799,,87297790414# US (Chicago) Dial by your location +1 309 205 3325 US +1 312 626 6799 US (Chicago) +1 646 558 8656 US (New York) +1 646 931 3860 US +1 301 715 8592 US (Washington DC) +1 305 224 1968 US +1 253 215 8782 US (Tacoma) +1 346 248 7799 US (Houston) +1 360 209 5623 US +1 386 347 5053 US +1 507 473 4847 US +1 564 217 2000 US +1 669 444 9171 US +1 669 900 9128 US (San Jose) +1 689 278 1000 US +1 719 359 4580 US +1 253 205 0468 US Meeting ID: 872 9779 0414 Find your local number: https://us02web.zoom.us/u/kdCuCQXlLI From gm at artxfm.com Thu Mar 16 19:32:48 2023 From: gm at artxfm.com (Sharon Scott) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2023 22:32:48 -0400 Subject: [grc] GRC Meeting - Tues, March 28th (date correction) @ 8 PM ET In-Reply-To: References: <99042021-7a9e-7de4-a84b-3ac20452ee62@effectivedefense.org> <94DEAD46-2F9D-4BE5-8C31-307C313A57A0@gmail.com> <22e7aa4cec508de1a81871ea06935fcf@artxfm.com> Message-ID: <675cf2c00aa1076ca5254a18036341d4@artxfm.com> Hello Everyone! There has been a lot of interest in re-starting the Grassroots Radio Conference. Let's meet up to talk -- and MAKE SOMETHING HAPPEN!!!! Tuesday, March 28th at 8 PM ET. All are welcome! ZOOM INVITE BELOW! Hope to see you there! ***** We are seeking a host station for 2023 -- could it be you?!?! GRC 2023 Station Host Application: https://forms.gle/sVX7Md1nnRhiZqMy8 ***** We are also seeking representatives from stations who have hosted the conference in the past so we can reconvene the GRC Steering Committee. If this is you, please click this link GRC Steering Committee Sign-Up: https://forms.gle/4himxqD5SFtCyzky6 ***** GRC 2023 MEET-UP ART FM is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting. Topic: GRC - Meet-Up Time: Mar 28, 2023 08:00 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada) Join Zoom Meeting https://us02web.zoom.us/j/87297790414 Meeting ID: 872 9779 0414 One tap mobile +13092053325,,87297790414# US +13126266799,,87297790414# US (Chicago) Dial by your location +1 309 205 3325 US +1 312 626 6799 US (Chicago) +1 646 558 8656 US (New York) +1 646 931 3860 US +1 301 715 8592 US (Washington DC) +1 305 224 1968 US +1 253 215 8782 US (Tacoma) +1 346 248 7799 US (Houston) +1 360 209 5623 US +1 386 347 5053 US +1 507 473 4847 US +1 564 217 2000 US +1 669 444 9171 US +1 669 900 9128 US (San Jose) +1 689 278 1000 US +1 719 359 4580 US +1 253 205 0468 US Meeting ID: 872 9779 0414 Find your local number: https://us02web.zoom.us/u/kdCuCQXlLI From skadanny at gmail.com Fri Mar 17 16:33:40 2023 From: skadanny at gmail.com (Danny) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2023 19:33:40 -0400 Subject: [grc] LPFM Change of Address? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'm having a heck of a time finding where to update our LPFM address. Suggestions? Thanks in advance! From mbbm at brownbroadcast.com Fri Mar 17 17:01:38 2023 From: mbbm at brownbroadcast.com (mbbm at brownbroadcast.com) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2023 17:01:38 -0700 Subject: [grc] LPFM Change of Address? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <002301d9592c$cffeb6b0$6ffc2410$@brownbroadcast.com> Hi Danny, Go to this page for instructions. https://www.fcc.gov/wireless/support/knowledge-base/common-amateur-filing-ta sks/common-amateur-filing-task-changing Best, Betty McArdle CMAP -----Original Message----- From: grc On Behalf Of Danny via grc Sent: Friday, March 17, 2023 4:34 PM To: grc at maillist.peak.org Subject: [grc] LPFM Change of Address? I'm having a heck of a time finding where to update our LPFM address. Suggestions? Thanks in advance! _______________________________________________ grc mailing list grc at maillist.peak.org http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc From betty at c-map.org Fri Mar 17 18:13:14 2023 From: betty at c-map.org (Betty McArdle) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2023 18:13:14 -0700 Subject: [grc] LPFM Change of Address? In-Reply-To: <002301d9592c$cffeb6b0$6ffc2410$@brownbroadcast.com> References: <002301d9592c$cffeb6b0$6ffc2410$@brownbroadcast.com> Message-ID: <000101d95936$d2970940$77c51bc0$@c-map.org> Hi Danny, Whoops!!! My bad. I sent you the wrong address. Here is the correct one. So sorry about that. CHANGE OF ADDRESS OR CONTACT INFORMATION FOR RADIO STATION Sign into LMS at https://enterpriseefiling.fcc.gov/dataentry/login.html Select FACILITIES tab Click on your license under FACILITY ID FILE AN APPLICATION, ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE Proceed to prepare and file the Administrative Update application, with the changes you wish to make. Betty McArdle CMAP -----Original Message----- From: grc On Behalf Of mbbm--- via grc Sent: Friday, March 17, 2023 5:02 PM To: 'Danny' ; grc at maillist.peak.org Subject: Re: [grc] LPFM Change of Address? Hi Danny, Go to this page for instructions. https://www.fcc.gov/wireless/support/knowledge-base/common-amateur-filing-ta sks/common-amateur-filing-task-changing Best, Betty McArdle CMAP -----Original Message----- From: grc On Behalf Of Danny via grc Sent: Friday, March 17, 2023 4:34 PM To: grc at maillist.peak.org Subject: [grc] LPFM Change of Address? I'm having a heck of a time finding where to update our LPFM address. Suggestions? Thanks in advance! _______________________________________________ grc mailing list grc at maillist.peak.org http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc _______________________________________________ grc mailing list grc at maillist.peak.org http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc From mike at brownbroadcast.com Mon Mar 20 12:34:25 2023 From: mike at brownbroadcast.com (Michael D. Brown) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2023 12:34:25 -0700 Subject: [grc] R.I.P. Michael Couzens Message-ID: <00dd01d95b62$fb065880$f1130980$@brownbroadcast.com> A friend, a wonderful person, a karate black-belt, an excellent and creative communications attorney, and an indefatigable ally of Community Radio, left us on Saturday after a long illness. His patient and friendly legal handiwork made hundreds of Full-Power and LPFM Community Stations possible, all across the country. For those not familiar with his background, this might help: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-couzens-6412951b?original_referer=https% 3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F mb Michael D. Brown Brown Broadcast Services, Inc. 3740 SW Comus St. ? Portland OR 97219-7418 USA mike at brownbroadcast.com ? www.brownbroadcast.com offc 503-245-6065 ? cell 503-703-3202 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 290679_2645051930335_1592195946_o.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 22395 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jama at asis.com Mon Mar 20 12:40:04 2023 From: jama at asis.com (Jama) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2023 12:40:04 -0700 Subject: [grc] R.I.P. Michael Couzens In-Reply-To: <00dd01d95b62$fb065880$f1130980$@brownbroadcast.com> References: <00dd01d95b62$fb065880$f1130980$@brownbroadcast.com> Message-ID: <849F1902-5BA2-4369-A1C6-45BCB1C27838@asis.com> Oh dear. This is indeed a loss to the community radio world. Thank you for sharing this sad news, Michael. Jama Chaplin KMUD, Garberville, CA > On Mar 20, 2023, at 12:34 PM, Michael D. Brown via grc wrote: > > A friend, a wonderful person, a karate black-belt, an excellent and creative > communications attorney, and an indefatigable ally of Community Radio, left > us on Saturday after a long illness. > > > > His patient and friendly legal handiwork made hundreds of Full-Power and > LPFM Community Stations possible, all across the country. > > For those not familiar with his background, this might help: > https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-couzens-6412951b?original_referer=https% > 3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F > > > > > > > > mb > > > > Michael D. Brown > Brown Broadcast Services, Inc. > 3740 SW Comus St. ? Portland OR 97219-7418 USA > mike at brownbroadcast.com ? brownbroadcast.com> www.brownbroadcast.com > offc 503-245-6065 ? cell 503-703-3202 > > > > > > > <290679_2645051930335_1592195946_o.jpg>_______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc From adrienne at sonic.net Mon Mar 20 12:44:21 2023 From: adrienne at sonic.net (Adrienne) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2023 12:44:21 -0700 Subject: [grc] R.I.P. Michael Couzens In-Reply-To: <849F1902-5BA2-4369-A1C6-45BCB1C27838@asis.com> References: <00dd01d95b62$fb065880$f1130980$@brownbroadcast.com> <849F1902-5BA2-4369-A1C6-45BCB1C27838@asis.com> Message-ID: <60318bc3ec16901c4bd978b4f67b902b@sonic.net> I'm so sorry we've lost Michael. Although I never worked with him directly, his advice and support has been obvious. His life meant something! My love to his family and friends. Adrienne Lauby host/producer/editor Pushing Limits KPFA's disability program On 2023-03-20 12:40 pm, Jama via grc wrote: > Oh dear. This is indeed a loss to the community radio world. > > Thank you for sharing this sad news, Michael. > > Jama Chaplin > KMUD, Garberville, CA > >> On Mar 20, 2023, at 12:34 PM, Michael D. Brown via grc wrote: >> >> A friend, a wonderful person, a karate black-belt, an excellent and creative >> communications attorney, and an indefatigable ally of Community Radio, left >> us on Saturday after a long illness. >> >> His patient and friendly legal handiwork made hundreds of Full-Power and >> LPFM Community Stations possible, all across the country. >> >> For those not familiar with his background, this might help: >> https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-couzens-6412951b?original_referer=https% >> 3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F >> >> mb >> >> Michael D. Brown >> Brown Broadcast Services, Inc. >> 3740 SW Comus St. ? Portland OR 97219-7418 USA >> mike at brownbroadcast.com ? > brownbroadcast.com> www.brownbroadcast.com [1] >> offc 503-245-6065 ? cell 503-703-3202 >> >> <290679_2645051930335_1592195946_o.jpg>_______________________________________________ >> grc mailing list >> grc at maillist.peak.org >> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc Links: ------ [1] http://www.brownbroadcast.com From kenyalewis at gmail.com Mon Mar 20 13:13:24 2023 From: kenyalewis at gmail.com (kenya lewis) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2023 13:13:24 -0700 Subject: [grc] R.I.P. Michael Couzens In-Reply-To: <60318bc3ec16901c4bd978b4f67b902b@sonic.net> References: <60318bc3ec16901c4bd978b4f67b902b@sonic.net> Message-ID: <64E79493-EECC-4A9F-8BB9-462A702EC192@gmail.com> Nooooo? Jim Ellinger, Karen and I were just talking about him yesterday. He is a treasure and will be hugely missed. Only guy I?ve ever met who could make an FCC petition an entertaining read. > On Mar 20, 2023, at 12:44 PM, Adrienne via grc wrote: > > ?I'm so sorry we've lost Michael. Although I never worked with him > directly, his advice and support has been obvious. His life meant > something! My love to his family and friends. > > Adrienne Lauby > host/producer/editor > Pushing Limits > KPFA's disability program > >> On 2023-03-20 12:40 pm, Jama via grc wrote: >> >> Oh dear. This is indeed a loss to the community radio world. >> >> Thank you for sharing this sad news, Michael. >> >> Jama Chaplin >> KMUD, Garberville, CA >> >>>> On Mar 20, 2023, at 12:34 PM, Michael D. Brown via grc wrote: >>> >>> A friend, a wonderful person, a karate black-belt, an excellent and creative >>> communications attorney, and an indefatigable ally of Community Radio, left >>> us on Saturday after a long illness. >>> >>> His patient and friendly legal handiwork made hundreds of Full-Power and >>> LPFM Community Stations possible, all across the country. >>> >>> For those not familiar with his background, this might help: >>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-couzens-6412951b?original_referer=https% >>> 3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F >>> >>> mb >>> >>> Michael D. Brown >>> Brown Broadcast Services, Inc. >>> 3740 SW Comus St. ? Portland OR 97219-7418 USA >>> mike at brownbroadcast.com ? >> brownbroadcast.com> www.brownbroadcast.com [1] >>> offc 503-245-6065 ? cell 503-703-3202 >>> >>> <290679_2645051930335_1592195946_o.jpg>_______________________________________________ >>> grc mailing list >>> grc at maillist.peak.org >>> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc >> >> _______________________________________________ >> grc mailing list >> grc at maillist.peak.org >> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > > > Links: > ------ > [1] http://www.brownbroadcast.com > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc From mike at brownbroadcast.com Mon Mar 20 13:36:49 2023 From: mike at brownbroadcast.com (Michael D. Brown) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2023 13:36:49 -0700 Subject: [grc] R.I.P. Michael Couzens In-Reply-To: <64E79493-EECC-4A9F-8BB9-462A702EC192@gmail.com> References: <60318bc3ec16901c4bd978b4f67b902b@sonic.net> <64E79493-EECC-4A9F-8BB9-462A702EC192@gmail.com> Message-ID: <010801d95b6b$b246e840$16d4b8c0$@brownbroadcast.com> Yes! He was the King of clever & snarky remarks within Petitions, without being nasty. Michael D. Brown Brown Broadcast Services, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: grc On Behalf Of kenya lewis via grc Sent: Monday, March 20, 2023 1:13 PM To: Adrienne Cc: _GRC list Subject: Re: [grc] R.I.P. Michael Couzens Nooooo. Jim Ellinger, Karen and I were just talking about him yesterday. He is a treasure and will be hugely missed. Only guy I've ever met who could make an FCC petition an entertaining read. From peter at culturelaw.com Mon Mar 20 12:46:42 2023 From: peter at culturelaw.com (peter at culturelaw.com) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2023 12:46:42 -0700 Subject: [grc] [Nceorg] R.I.P. Michael Couzens In-Reply-To: <00dd01d95b62$fb065880$f1130980$@brownbroadcast.com> References: <00dd01d95b62$fb065880$f1130980$@brownbroadcast.com> Message-ID: <95787841-81cc-8fee-cf0b-70b43304c57c@culturelaw.com> And he helped train many of us in the arcane ways of the FCC. On 3/20/2023 12:34 PM, Michael D. Brown wrote: > > A friend, a wonderful person, a karate black-belt, an excellent and > creative communications attorney, and an indefatigable ally of > Community Radio, left us on Saturday after a long illness. > > His patient and friendly legal handiwork made hundreds of Full-Power > and LPFM Community Stations possible, all across the country. > > For those not familiar with his background, this might help: > https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-couzens-6412951b?original_referer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F > > mb > > Michael D. Brown > Brown Broadcast Services, Inc. > 3740 SW Comus St. ? Portland OR 97219-7418 USA > mike at brownbroadcast.com ? > www.brownbroadcast.com * > **offc 503-245-6065*??*?cell 503-703-3202 * > > > > _______________________________________________ > Nceorg mailing list > Nceorg at lists.prometheusradio.org > http://lists.prometheusradio.org/listinfo.cgi/nceorg-prometheusradio.org -- Peter Franck 562-357-4770 From kholman at willamette.edu Mon Mar 20 13:20:09 2023 From: kholman at willamette.edu (Karen McFarlane Holman) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2023 13:20:09 -0700 Subject: [grc] R.I.P. Michael Couzens In-Reply-To: <64E79493-EECC-4A9F-8BB9-462A702EC192@gmail.com> References: <60318bc3ec16901c4bd978b4f67b902b@sonic.net> <64E79493-EECC-4A9F-8BB9-462A702EC192@gmail.com> Message-ID: I am deeply sorry to hear this sad news. He made such an enormous difference in KMUZ becoming a station. Thank you for letting us know. On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 1:14 PM kenya lewis via grc wrote: > Nooooo? Jim Ellinger, Karen and I were just talking about him yesterday. > He is a treasure and will be hugely missed. > > Only guy I?ve ever met who could make an FCC petition an entertaining > read. > > > On Mar 20, 2023, at 12:44 PM, Adrienne via grc > wrote: > > > > ?I'm so sorry we've lost Michael. Although I never worked with him > > directly, his advice and support has been obvious. His life meant > > something! My love to his family and friends. > > > > Adrienne Lauby > > host/producer/editor > > Pushing Limits > > KPFA's disability program > > > >> On 2023-03-20 12:40 pm, Jama via grc wrote: > >> > >> Oh dear. This is indeed a loss to the community radio world. > >> > >> Thank you for sharing this sad news, Michael. > >> > >> Jama Chaplin > >> KMUD, Garberville, CA > >> > >>>> On Mar 20, 2023, at 12:34 PM, Michael D. Brown via grc < > grc at maillist.peak.org> wrote: > >>> > >>> A friend, a wonderful person, a karate black-belt, an excellent and > creative > >>> communications attorney, and an indefatigable ally of Community Radio, > left > >>> us on Saturday after a long illness. > >>> > >>> His patient and friendly legal handiwork made hundreds of Full-Power > and > >>> LPFM Community Stations possible, all across the country. > >>> > >>> For those not familiar with his background, this might help: > >>> > https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-couzens-6412951b?original_referer=https% > >>> 3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F > >>> > >>> mb > >>> > >>> Michael D. Brown > >>> Brown Broadcast Services, Inc. > >>> 3740 SW Comus St. ? Portland OR 97219-7418 USA > >>> mike at brownbroadcast.com ? < > http://www. > >>> brownbroadcast.com> www.brownbroadcast.com [1] > >>> offc 503-245-6065 ? cell 503-703-3202 > >>> > >>> > <290679_2645051930335_1592195946_o.jpg>_______________________________________________ > >>> grc mailing list > >>> grc at maillist.peak.org > >>> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> grc mailing list > >> grc at maillist.peak.org > >> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > > > > > > Links: > > ------ > > [1] http://www.brownbroadcast.com > > _______________________________________________ > > grc mailing list > > grc at maillist.peak.org > > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > -- Karen McFarlane Holman (she/her) Professor of Chemistry Willamette University I respectfully acknowledge that Willamette University was built on the land of the Kalapuya, who today are represented by the Confederated Tribes of the Grand Ronde and the Confederated Tribes of the Siletz Indians, whose relationship with this land continues to this day. I am grateful to the land itself, to those who have stewarded it for generations, and for the opportunity to study, learn, work, and be in community on this land. I acknowledge that the University?s history, like many others, is fundamentally tied to the first colonial developments in the Willamette Valley. I respectfully acknowledge and honor past, present, and future Indigenous students of Willamette. From marika at takomaradio.org Mon Mar 20 14:05:17 2023 From: marika at takomaradio.org (Marika Partridge) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2023 17:05:17 -0400 Subject: [grc] R.I.P. Michael Couzens In-Reply-To: <64E79493-EECC-4A9F-8BB9-462A702EC192@gmail.com> References: <60318bc3ec16901c4bd978b4f67b902b@sonic.net> <64E79493-EECC-4A9F-8BB9-462A702EC192@gmail.com> Message-ID: He did a lot for our community. He always had his eye on?. The prize: radio for the people. Thank you Michael. Inspiring lifelong courage. > On Mar 20, 2023, at 4:13 PM, kenya lewis via grc wrote: > > Nooooo? Jim Ellinger, Karen and I were just talking about him yesterday. He is a treasure and will be hugely missed. > > Only guy I?ve ever met who could make an FCC petition an entertaining read. > >> On Mar 20, 2023, at 12:44 PM, Adrienne via grc wrote: >> >> ?I'm so sorry we've lost Michael. Although I never worked with him >> directly, his advice and support has been obvious. His life meant >> something! My love to his family and friends. >> >> Adrienne Lauby >> host/producer/editor >> Pushing Limits >> KPFA's disability program >> >>> On 2023-03-20 12:40 pm, Jama via grc wrote: >>> >>> Oh dear. This is indeed a loss to the community radio world. >>> >>> Thank you for sharing this sad news, Michael. >>> >>> Jama Chaplin >>> KMUD, Garberville, CA >>> >>>>> On Mar 20, 2023, at 12:34 PM, Michael D. Brown via grc wrote: >>>> >>>> A friend, a wonderful person, a karate black-belt, an excellent and creative >>>> communications attorney, and an indefatigable ally of Community Radio, left >>>> us on Saturday after a long illness. >>>> >>>> His patient and friendly legal handiwork made hundreds of Full-Power and >>>> LPFM Community Stations possible, all across the country. >>>> >>>> For those not familiar with his background, this might help: >>>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-couzens-6412951b?original_referer=https% >>>> 3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F >>>> >>>> mb >>>> >>>> Michael D. Brown >>>> Brown Broadcast Services, Inc. >>>> 3740 SW Comus St. ? Portland OR 97219-7418 USA >>>> mike at brownbroadcast.com ? >>> brownbroadcast.com> www.brownbroadcast.com [1] >>>> offc 503-245-6065 ? cell 503-703-3202 >>>> >>>> <290679_2645051930335_1592195946_o.jpg>_______________________________________________ >>>> grc mailing list >>>> grc at maillist.peak.org >>>> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> grc mailing list >>> grc at maillist.peak.org >>> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc >> >> >> Links: >> ------ >> [1] http://www.brownbroadcast.com >> _______________________________________________ >> grc mailing list >> grc at maillist.peak.org >> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc From communitynews at wimberleyvalleyradio.org Mon Mar 20 14:42:04 2023 From: communitynews at wimberleyvalleyradio.org (Susan Raybuck) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2023 16:42:04 -0500 Subject: [grc] R.I.P. Michael Couzens In-Reply-To: <00dd01d95b62$fb065880$f1130980$@brownbroadcast.com> References: <00dd01d95b62$fb065880$f1130980$@brownbroadcast.com> Message-ID: <04D2C125-02E3-44D3-8D65-4CDC647ADE04@wimberleyvalleyradio.org> A huge loss! Ours was one of the many LPFM licenses awarded thanks to Michael Couzens. He pushed me to have the courage of my convictions in our application, and that made the difference when we ended up in an MX situation. His was a life well lived. Very grateful to have known him. Karate must have informed his ability to fight for the little guys in broadcasting. He was always on our side. Susan Raybuck Director Emerita KWVH-LP Wimberley Valley Radio Wimberley, Texas > On Mar 20, 2023, at 2:34 PM, Michael D. Brown via grc wrote: > > A friend, a wonderful person, a karate black-belt, an excellent and creative > communications attorney, and an indefatigable ally of Community Radio, left > us on Saturday after a long illness. > > > > His patient and friendly legal handiwork made hundreds of Full-Power and > LPFM Community Stations possible, all across the country. > > For those not familiar with his background, this might help: > https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-couzens-6412951b?original_referer=https% > 3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F > > > > > > > > mb > > > > Michael D. Brown > Brown Broadcast Services, Inc. > 3740 SW Comus St. ? Portland OR 97219-7418 USA > mike at brownbroadcast.com ? brownbroadcast.com> www.brownbroadcast.com > offc 503-245-6065 ? cell 503-703-3202 > > > > > > > <290679_2645051930335_1592195946_o.jpg>_______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc From bobpts at asis.com Mon Mar 20 17:52:52 2023 From: bobpts at asis.com (bob s) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2023 17:52:52 -0700 Subject: [grc] R.I.P. Michael Couzens In-Reply-To: <04D2C125-02E3-44D3-8D65-4CDC647ADE04@wimberleyvalleyradio.org> References: <00dd01d95b62$fb065880$f1130980$@brownbroadcast.com> <04D2C125-02E3-44D3-8D65-4CDC647ADE04@wimberleyvalleyradio.org> Message-ID: We should all thank our lucky stars that folks had Michael around to push em forward. la lucha continua From: Susan Raybuck via grc Sent: Monday, March 20, 2023 2:42 PM To: Michael D. Brown Cc: Promeheus Radio listserv; GRC Listserv Subject: Re: [grc] R.I.P. Michael Couzens A huge loss! Ours was one of the many LPFM licenses awarded thanks to Michael Couzens. He pushed me to have the courage of my convictions in our application, and that made the difference when we ended up in an MX situation. His was a life well lived. Very grateful to have known him. Karate must have informed his ability to fight for the little guys in broadcasting. He was always on our side. Susan Raybuck Director Emerita KWVH-LP Wimberley Valley Radio Wimberley, Texas > On Mar 20, 2023, at 2:34 PM, Michael D. Brown via grc wrote: > > A friend, a wonderful person, a karate black-belt, an excellent and creative > communications attorney, and an indefatigable ally of Community Radio, left > us on Saturday after a long illness. > > > > His patient and friendly legal handiwork made hundreds of Full-Power and > LPFM Community Stations possible, all across the country. > > For those not familiar with his background, this might help: > https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-couzens-6412951b?original_referer=https% > 3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F > > > > > > > > mb > > > > Michael D. Brown > Brown Broadcast Services, Inc. > 3740 SW Comus St. ? Portland OR 97219-7418 USA > mike at brownbroadcast.com ? brownbroadcast.com> www.brownbroadcast.com > offc 503-245-6065 ? cell 503-703-3202 > > > > > > > <290679_2645051930335_1592195946_o.jpg>_______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc _______________________________________________ grc mailing list grc at maillist.peak.org http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc From LloydEwing at gmx.com Tue Mar 21 14:57:18 2023 From: LloydEwing at gmx.com (Lloyd Ewing) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2023 16:57:18 -0500 Subject: [grc] Storytelling copyright guidelines In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <72d82308-578d-0900-5cc4-710e31971183@gmx.com> I apologize for making a delayed post on this subject after the discussion has concluded. My subscription is to the digest version of the GRC mailing list, and it doesn't seem to be possible to receive the digests more often than once a month. In Austin Texas we have a very nice program where short stories are read on KOOP, which is the local full-power NCE independent radio station. Their program broadcasts a very wide variety of science fiction stories, including copyrighted material, apparently edited to fit in their one-hour time slot each week. When I discovered this program I could not resist asking what they were doing about copyright permissions. He said that it is not hard to find science fiction authors who are willing to give permission to have their stories read. He contacts the authors (or I assume their descendants for those who are no longer living) informally through social media or E-mail explaining what they want to do and asking permission. A simple reply on social media is all that they need. Their broadcasts are available for download. I highly recommend the program, although I do not know whether the permissions they receive would include more than one airing or airing on more than one station. https://koop.org/programs/the-stopped-clock/ https://www.mixcloud.com/FreezeFrameandKirk/ The program is presented in a raw, improvised style, which can have both advantages and disadvantages for the listener. Lloyd On 3/20/2023 3:38 PM, grc-request at maillist.peak.org wrote: > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2023 15:30:24 -0500 > From: Katherine Stathis > To: kenya lewis > Cc: Spencer Graves , > ken at wfmu.org, grc at maillist.peak.org > Subject: Re: [grc] Storytelling copyright guidelines > > Wow, thanks everyone! > > Kate > From spencer.graves at effectivedefense.org Tue Mar 21 15:05:50 2023 From: spencer.graves at effectivedefense.org (Spencer Graves) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2023 17:05:50 -0500 Subject: [grc] Storytelling copyright guidelines In-Reply-To: <72d82308-578d-0900-5cc4-710e31971183@gmx.com> References: <72d82308-578d-0900-5cc4-710e31971183@gmx.com> Message-ID: <0dc68aa0-c4e4-a4db-1c29-5c2ee7dad349@effectivedefense.org> Wonderful. Thanks for this. JUST ONE QUESTION: Do you also ask the authors or descendants if they own the copyright? If not, you could get in trouble if one of your contacts says "yes", but forget that they've assigned the copyright to a publisher. Anyway, thanks for the reply. Spencer Graves On 3/21/23 4:57 PM, Lloyd Ewing via grc wrote: > I apologize for making a delayed post on this subject after the > discussion has concluded.? My subscription is to the digest version of > the GRC mailing list, and it doesn't seem to be possible to receive the > digests more often than once a month. > > In Austin Texas we have a very nice program where short stories are read > on KOOP, which is the local full-power NCE independent radio station. > Their program broadcasts a very wide variety of science fiction stories, > including copyrighted material, apparently edited to fit in their > one-hour time slot each week. > > When I discovered this program I could not resist asking what they were > doing about copyright permissions.? He said that it is not hard to find > science fiction authors who are willing to give permission to have their > stories read.? He contacts the authors (or I assume their descendants > for those who are no longer living) informally through social media or > E-mail explaining what they want to do and asking permission.? A simple > reply on social media is all that they need. > > Their broadcasts are available for download.? I highly recommend the > program, although I do not know whether the permissions they receive > would include more than one airing or airing on more than one station. > https://koop.org/programs/the-stopped-clock/ > https://www.mixcloud.com/FreezeFrameandKirk/ > The program is presented in a raw, improvised style, which can have both > advantages and disadvantages for the listener. > > Lloyd > > > On 3/20/2023 3:38 PM, grc-request at maillist.peak.org wrote: >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2023 15:30:24 -0500 >> From: Katherine Stathis >> To: kenya lewis >> Cc: Spencer Graves , >> ????ken at wfmu.org,???? grc at maillist.peak.org >> Subject: Re: [grc] Storytelling copyright guidelines >> >> Wow, thanks everyone! >> >> Kate >> > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc From ad253 at freeelectron.net Tue Mar 21 15:48:54 2023 From: ad253 at freeelectron.net (al davis) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2023 18:48:54 -0400 Subject: [grc] Storytelling copyright guidelines In-Reply-To: <0dc68aa0-c4e4-a4db-1c29-5c2ee7dad349@effectivedefense.org> References: <72d82308-578d-0900-5cc4-710e31971183@gmx.com> <0dc68aa0-c4e4-a4db-1c29-5c2ee7dad349@effectivedefense.org> Message-ID: <20230321184854.20bb33d9@z> On Tue, 21 Mar 2023 17:05:50 -0500 Spencer Graves via grc wrote: > Do you also ask the authors or descendants if they > own the copyright? If not, you could get in trouble if one of your > contacts says "yes", but forget that they've assigned the copyright to a > publisher. Perhaps, but it is as safe as anything else you could do. The copyright page in the book tells you who was the owner at that time. Also, most assignments to publisher have a license back clause to the author to facilitate things like this. From spencer.graves at effectivedefense.org Tue Mar 21 18:26:48 2023 From: spencer.graves at effectivedefense.org (Spencer Graves) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2023 20:26:48 -0500 Subject: [grc] Storytelling copyright guidelines In-Reply-To: <20230321184854.20bb33d9@z> References: <72d82308-578d-0900-5cc4-710e31971183@gmx.com> <0dc68aa0-c4e4-a4db-1c29-5c2ee7dad349@effectivedefense.org> <20230321184854.20bb33d9@z> Message-ID: <5d49bf40-5aa7-80c7-6996-6e1667e9ae90@effectivedefense.org> On 3/21/23 5:48 PM, al davis via grc wrote: > On Tue, 21 Mar 2023 17:05:50 -0500 > Spencer Graves via grc wrote: >> Do you also ask the authors or descendants if they >> own the copyright? If not, you could get in trouble if one of your >> contacts says "yes", but forget that they've assigned the copyright to a >> publisher. > > Perhaps, but it is as safe as anything else you could do. The copyright > page in the book tells you who was the owner at that time. Also, most > assignments to publisher have a license back clause to the author to > facilitate things like this. Thanks. That's great to know. And even if what you say does not happen to be the case in any particular instance, the real copyright owner would have a hard time getting much from a lawsuit over it, especially from a nonprofit that is not charging a separate fee for that particular content. Spencer > > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc From loonfoot at gmail.com Tue Mar 21 19:17:26 2023 From: loonfoot at gmail.com (Robert Park) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2023 21:17:26 -0500 Subject: [grc] Storytelling copyright guidelines In-Reply-To: <72d82308-578d-0900-5cc4-710e31971183@gmx.com> References: <72d82308-578d-0900-5cc4-710e31971183@gmx.com> Message-ID: Do any other stations use stories in the public domain, read by volunteers, from Librivox ? Bob Park Program Director WIDE-LP 99.1 FM http://widelp.org/ email: radio at widelp.org https://twitter.com/WIDE_LP https://post.news/@99_1_fm https://www.facebook.com/WIDE.LP.99.1/ "Progressive Voices on the Air" On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 4:57?PM Lloyd Ewing via grc wrote: > I apologize for making a delayed post on this subject after the > discussion has concluded. My subscription is to the digest version of > the GRC mailing list, and it doesn't seem to be possible to receive the > digests more often than once a month. > > In Austin Texas we have a very nice program where short stories are read > on KOOP, which is the local full-power NCE independent radio station. > Their program broadcasts a very wide variety of science fiction stories, > including copyrighted material, apparently edited to fit in their > one-hour time slot each week. > > When I discovered this program I could not resist asking what they were > doing about copyright permissions. He said that it is not hard to find > science fiction authors who are willing to give permission to have their > stories read. He contacts the authors (or I assume their descendants > for those who are no longer living) informally through social media or > E-mail explaining what they want to do and asking permission. A simple > reply on social media is all that they need. > > Their broadcasts are available for download. I highly recommend the > program, although I do not know whether the permissions they receive > would include more than one airing or airing on more than one station. > https://koop.org/programs/the-stopped-clock/ > https://www.mixcloud.com/FreezeFrameandKirk/ > The program is presented in a raw, improvised style, which can have both > advantages and disadvantages for the listener. > > Lloyd > > > On 3/20/2023 3:38 PM, grc-request at maillist.peak.org wrote: > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2023 15:30:24 -0500 > > From: Katherine Stathis > > To: kenya lewis > > Cc: Spencer Graves , > > ken at wfmu.org, grc at maillist.peak.org > > Subject: Re: [grc] Storytelling copyright guidelines > > > > Wow, thanks everyone! > > > > Kate > > > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > From skadanny at gmail.com Wed Mar 22 14:35:52 2023 From: skadanny at gmail.com (Danny) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2023 17:35:52 -0400 Subject: [grc] LPFM Change of Address? In-Reply-To: <000101d95936$d2970940$77c51bc0$@c-map.org> References: <002301d9592c$cffeb6b0$6ffc2410$@brownbroadcast.com> <000101d95936$d2970940$77c51bc0$@c-map.org> Message-ID: Near I can tell, I did it correctly. Any idea how long it will take to update on their public facing website? On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 9:13?PM Betty McArdle wrote: > Hi Danny, > > Whoops!!! My bad. I sent you the wrong address. Here is the correct one. > So sorry about that. > > CHANGE OF ADDRESS OR CONTACT INFORMATION FOR RADIO STATION > > Sign into LMS at https://enterpriseefiling.fcc.gov/dataentry/login.html > Select FACILITIES tab > Click on your license under FACILITY ID > FILE AN APPLICATION, ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE Proceed to prepare and file the > Administrative Update application, with the changes you wish to make. > > Betty McArdle > CMAP > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: grc On Behalf Of mbbm--- via grc > Sent: Friday, March 17, 2023 5:02 PM > To: 'Danny' ; grc at maillist.peak.org > Subject: Re: [grc] LPFM Change of Address? > > Hi Danny, > > Go to this page for instructions. > > > https://www.fcc.gov/wireless/support/knowledge-base/common-amateur-filing-ta > sks/common-amateur-filing-task-changing > > > Best, > > Betty McArdle > CMAP > > -----Original Message----- > From: grc On Behalf Of Danny via grc > Sent: Friday, March 17, 2023 4:34 PM > To: grc at maillist.peak.org > Subject: [grc] LPFM Change of Address? > > I'm having a heck of a time finding where to update our LPFM address. > > Suggestions? Thanks in advance! > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > > From gm at artxfm.com Wed Mar 22 17:11:10 2023 From: gm at artxfm.com (Sharon Scott) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2023 20:11:10 -0400 Subject: [grc] GRC Meeting - Tues, March 28th @ 8 PM ET In-Reply-To: <675cf2c00aa1076ca5254a18036341d4@artxfm.com> References: <99042021-7a9e-7de4-a84b-3ac20452ee62@effectivedefense.org> <94DEAD46-2F9D-4BE5-8C31-307C313A57A0@gmail.com> <22e7aa4cec508de1a81871ea06935fcf@artxfm.com> <675cf2c00aa1076ca5254a18036341d4@artxfm.com> Message-ID: REMINDER ... Meeting to discuss possible GRC 2023 on Tuesday March 28th at 8 PM ET Zoom invite below. -------- Original Message -------- Hello Everyone! There has been a lot of interest in re-starting the Grassroots Radio Conference. Let's meet up to talk -- and MAKE SOMETHING HAPPEN!!!! Tuesday, March 28th at 8 PM ET. All are welcome! ZOOM INVITE BELOW! Hope to see you there! ***** We are seeking a host station for 2023 -- could it be you?!?! GRC 2023 Station Host Application: https://forms.gle/sVX7Md1nnRhiZqMy8 ***** We are also seeking representatives from stations who have hosted the conference in the past so we can reconvene the GRC Steering Committee. If this is you, please click this link GRC Steering Committee Sign-Up: https://forms.gle/4himxqD5SFtCyzky6 ***** GRC 2023 MEET-UP ART FM is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting. 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We are hiring for a Development Director. [image: signature logo_evergreen.png] Drew G. Alcoser [they/them] *KBOO Membership Director* KBOO-FM | (971) 801-1381 ext. 207 20 SE 8th Ave., Portland, OR 97214 membership at kboo.fm | kboo.fm/give You make KBOO happen ? join TODAY! Acknowledgment ? KBOO Radio Station is located in Portland, Oregon in Multnomah County. We honor the Indigenous people whose traditional and ancestral homelands we stand on: the Multnomah, Kathlamet, Clackamas, Tumwater, Watlala bands of the Chinook, the Tualatin Kalapuya and many other Indigenous nations of the Willamette and Columbia River regions. It is important to acknowledge the ancestors of this land and to recognize that we are here because of the sacrifices forced upon them. In remembering these communities, we honor their legacy, their lives, and their descendants with the forming of relationships to each other and the living world. From membership at kboo.org Thu Mar 23 11:51:34 2023 From: membership at kboo.org (KBOO Membership Director) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2023 11:51:34 -0700 Subject: [grc] Please post this job opportunity through 4/2/23 Message-ID: Hello--- Please post the following job opportunity on the Yahoo Group until midnight April 2nd. Thank you! *KBOO is Hiring: Development Director* Please submit resume and cover letter by *April 2, 2023 11:59 pm (Deadline extended!)* to hiring at kboo.org or mail/bring your resume and cover letter to: Hiring Committee 20 SE 8th Ave. Portland OR 97214. *Applications without a Cover Letter will not be accepted.* Interviews will begin soon after the closing deadline. Affirmative Action/Equal Employment Opportunity KBOO Community Radio is an equal opportunity and affirmative action employer. Women and people of color are encouraged to apply. Our organization does not discriminate on the basis of age, race, religion, color, sex, national origin, marital status, sexual orientation, gender identity, class, creed, physical or mental disability. *Job Title:* Development Director *Reports to:* Station Manager *Employment Status:* Non-exempt, hourly *Hours: *40 per week full-time *Direct Reports:* None (Works in close coordination with and supports volunteers) *Salary: *Starts at $25.63/hr Plus Benefits *General Description:* The Development Director ensures KBOO meets annual revenue goals. This position leads all fundraising campaigns and communications and makes sure activities are in alignment with KBOO Community Radio's mission, charter, goals, and policies. The Development Director works closely with station management and staff to identify funding priorities and to ensure proper compliance with funding sources. This position is a member of the Revenue Operating Team and attends Development Committee meetings. *Minimum Qualifications:* - At least 4 years of proven development experience in the non-profit sector, - Experience leading social media campaigns - Strong annual report, newsletter, and grant writing skills - Capacity to develop accurate and timely reports and fulfill other grant obligations - Ability to work with graphic artists to produce campaign assets - Highly self-motivated, with strong project management skills. - Excellent written communication, research and organizational skills - Excellent interpersonal communication skills; excellent oral communication skills; ability to participate in public speaking events - Experience delegating responsibility and ensure accountability - Ability to train and coordinate volunteers - Capacity to work flexible hours, including evenings and weekends, as necessary - Ability to work effectively and respectfully with socio-economically, racially, and linguistically diverse communities and individuals - Ability to work with a diverse population within KBOO?s multicultural and progressive organization - Ability to model inclusive behavior consistent with KBOO's mission and program charter *Preferred Qualifications:* - Significant foundation and major donor fundraising work - Sales and Marketing Experience - Graphic design experience and proficiency with Adobe Creative Suite - Audio editing experience and proficiency with Adobe Audition or Audacity - Excellent knowledge of fundraising technology and software - Proficiency in Google Suite *Essential functions: * - Coordinate and lead development and fundraising plan - Create development activities/ events timeline and calendar - Develop foundation relationships, grant applications - Manage reports, agreements for current grants. - Coordinate Direct Mail, End of Year, and other appeals - Develop online plan for click-thru partnerships and donations - Coordinate fundraising activities w/ membership department - Set drive timing, messaging and fundraising efforts - Support membership drives - Solicit/ coordinate major donor events and relationships - Find Donor Matches for drives, fundraising events and appeals - Develop special asks for major donors for campaigns, EOY, etc - Develop business matches, partners and sponsorships for drives and events - Lead creation of other public relations and outreach materials/ handouts - Develop/ Lead planned giving project, messaging and recognition for planned giving participants - Clarify and lead various yearly messages - Lead social media planning, training, implementation for revenue generation - Lead e-newsletter creation, editing, sending - Lead creation of ads for membership drives, other campaigns - Work with Development and Membership Directors to create media collateral for fundraising, programming and other station activities - Develop key media relationships - Lead media list creation - Create press releases - Lead development of annual report - Assess/ evaluate all of the above - Request, train, support volunteers for all of the above duties as needed - Guide and provide direction for Development/ Events Committee - Train/ mentor committee volunteers - Attend staff meetings and trainings - Ensure KBOO meets annual revenue goals, which shall at minimum be greater than the cost of employing the Development Director *Development Administration: * 1. Coordinate and lead a development/fundraising plan and timeline each year and long term. 2. Coordinate and ensure thank you letters and acknowledgements. *Foundations: * 1. Leading foundation relationships, grant applications, following agreements, thank you letters, and reporting *Campaigns: * 1. Coordinate the end-of-the year campaign 2. Conduct donor communications; developing segmentation, improving our renewals and direct mail strategies. 3. Lead other fundraising campaigns as needed/designed by the organization. *On-line: * 1. Develop a plan for click-through partnerships and on-line donations. *Membership: * 1. Coordinate fundraising activities with membership department and Revenue Operating Team 2. Support membership drives, especially messaging and pitch materials. 3. Develop and solicit matches for drives *Major Donor: * 1. Coordinate major donor events and relationships 2. Donor matches for drive-Develop special asks for major donors during campaigns ( e.g. End-of-year and special projects) 3. Create and send handwritten thank you notes to all $500 or greater gifts for major donors *Businesses * 1. Create and implement a plan for businesses donations with the Revenue Operating Team. 2. Find and implement business matches for drives. 3. Sponsorships for development-initiated events. *Planned Giving* 1. Lead messaging and recognition/acknowledgements. *Communications:* 1. With Promotions Operating Team, ensure there is a doable communications plan, that it is implemented and tracked/reported on monthly. 2. Lead development/fundraising messaging - with staff, clarify and lead our messages at different times of year for giving/development. 3. Lead Coordinate fundraising related social media planning with Promotions Operating Team and Web and New Media Coordinator, training, and implementation. 4. Lead donor communications, e-newsletter creation, editing and sending. 5. Lead creation of ads for membership drives and other campaigns. 6. Lead media list and press release development. Develop relationships with key media. 7. Lead development of annual report. 8. Lead development of all other fundraising marketing materials/hand-outs. *Misc.: * 1. Assessment, evaluation of all of the above, assessing best return on investment for all development activities. 2. Requesting and supporting volunteers for all of the above as needed. 3. Participating in staff meetings, Revenue Operating Team, and Promotions Operating Team. *Compensation* This is a full-time hourly position with a starting salary and annual step increases determined by the Collective Bargaining Agreement. *Union-Shop* All represented staff at KBOO are part of the Communications Workers of America (CWA) Local 7901. This position is part of the Bargaining Unit, and the person hired into this position will, as a condition of employment, pay member dues (or equivalent to cover the cost of representation), to CWA Local 7901 by the 30th day of their employment. There is a six-month probationary period. *Benefits* Benefits for this position are established in the Collective Bargaining Agreement. This includes medical and dental coverage. This position also offers paid vacation, sick leave, and 13 paid holidays. Overtime for all hours worked over 40 hours per week. *Working Conditions* KBOO has about ten paid employees and about 300 volunteers. The atmosphere can be intense and stimulating. The ability to work in this kind of environment is essential. *Equipment Used* Computer, voicemail, copier, general office equipment. *Equal Opportunity Employer* KBOO Community Radio is an equal opportunity employer and affirmative action employer. Women and people of color are encouraged to apply. Our organization does not discriminate on the basis of age, race, religion, color, sex, national origin, marital status, sexual orientation, class, gender identity, creed, physical or mental disability. [image: signature logo_evergreen.png] Drew G. Alcoser [they/them] *KBOO Membership Director* KBOO-FM | (971) 801-1381 ext. 207 20 SE 8th Ave., Portland, OR 97214 membership at kboo.fm | kboo.fm/give You make KBOO happen ? join TODAY! Acknowledgment ? KBOO Radio Station is located in Portland, Oregon in Multnomah County. We honor the Indigenous people whose traditional and ancestral homelands we stand on: the Multnomah, Kathlamet, Clackamas, Tumwater, Watlala bands of the Chinook, the Tualatin Kalapuya and many other Indigenous nations of the Willamette and Columbia River regions. It is important to acknowledge the ancestors of this land and to recognize that we are here because of the sacrifices forced upon them. In remembering these communities, we honor their legacy, their lives, and their descendants with the forming of relationships to each other and the living world. From gm at artxfm.com Tue Mar 28 08:45:50 2023 From: gm at artxfm.com (Sharon Scott) Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2023 11:45:50 -0400 Subject: [grc] GRC Meeting - TONIGHT @ 8 PM ET In-Reply-To: References: <99042021-7a9e-7de4-a84b-3ac20452ee62@effectivedefense.org> <94DEAD46-2F9D-4BE5-8C31-307C313A57A0@gmail.com> <22e7aa4cec508de1a81871ea06935fcf@artxfm.com> <675cf2c00aa1076ca5254a18036341d4@artxfm.com> Message-ID: <758779967b64fd98a72341f3014832a9@artxfm.com> MEETING TONIGHT!!!!! HOPE TO SEE EVERYONE THERE!!!! -------- Original Message -------- Hello Everyone! There has been a lot of interest in re-starting the Grassroots Radio Conference. Let's meet up to talk -- and MAKE SOMETHING HAPPEN!!!! Tuesday, March 28th at 8 PM ET. All are welcome! ZOOM INVITE BELOW! Hope to see you there! ***** We are seeking a host station for 2023 -- could it be you?!?! GRC 2023 Station Host Application: https://forms.gle/sVX7Md1nnRhiZqMy8 ***** We are also seeking representatives from stations who have hosted the conference in the past so we can reconvene the GRC Steering Committee. If this is you, please click this link GRC Steering Committee Sign-Up: https://forms.gle/4himxqD5SFtCyzky6 ***** GRC 2023 MEET-UP ART FM is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting. Topic: GRC - Meet-Up Time: Mar 28, 2023 08:00 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada) Join Zoom Meeting https://us02web.zoom.us/j/87297790414 Meeting ID: 872 9779 0414 One tap mobile +13092053325,,87297790414# US +13126266799,,87297790414# US (Chicago) Dial by your location +1 309 205 3325 US +1 312 626 6799 US (Chicago) +1 646 558 8656 US (New York) +1 646 931 3860 US +1 301 715 8592 US (Washington DC) +1 305 224 1968 US +1 253 215 8782 US (Tacoma) +1 346 248 7799 US (Houston) +1 360 209 5623 US +1 386 347 5053 US +1 507 473 4847 US +1 564 217 2000 US +1 669 444 9171 US +1 669 900 9128 US (San Jose) +1 689 278 1000 US +1 719 359 4580 US +1 253 205 0468 US Meeting ID: 872 9779 0414 Find your local number: https://us02web.zoom.us/u/kdCuCQXlLI _______________________________________________ grc mailing list grc at maillist.peak.org http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc From mae at recnet.com Tue Mar 28 10:31:54 2023 From: mae at recnet.com (Michelle Bradley) Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2023 13:31:54 -0400 Subject: [grc] GRC Meeting - TONIGHT @ 8 PM ET In-Reply-To: <758779967b64fd98a72341f3014832a9@artxfm.com> References: <99042021-7a9e-7de4-a84b-3ac20452ee62@effectivedefense.org> <94DEAD46-2F9D-4BE5-8C31-307C313A57A0@gmail.com> <22e7aa4cec508de1a81871ea06935fcf@artxfm.com> <675cf2c00aa1076ca5254a18036341d4@artxfm.com> <758779967b64fd98a72341f3014832a9@artxfm.com> Message-ID: <8da1b537-fdbf-f820-8a8d-447741f1ce23@recnet.com> Good afternoon from Riverton. I will be unable to make today's Zoom at 8PM.? That is after we shut down for the night here and when we spend time as a family. Family is one of the issues that we need to discuss when considering whether to have a 2023 live GRC, as well as good event planning. We have been down this road before with hastily planned GRCs and they have not been great in comparison to those that are well planned a year or more in advance.? Those who have been to the near-annual GRCs of the past know what I mean. First of all, we are already going into April.? A lot of people, especially the vendors who will financially support the show as well as the subject matter experts already have their agendas and budgets set up for the year.? It is way too late to insert anything new so quickly. In addition, 2023 is our first year in what some may call the "post-COVID" world.? While COVID19 still exists, the new cases and new strains have stabilized and as a result, more people are returning to more normal activities.? This includes time spent with families and other vacations, which would have been very restricted or not possible in the past recent years.? We owe this to our families. I seriously do not think we should be spinning our wheels in getting a 2023 GRC out.? Instead, I think we should be working right now on a 2024 GRC.? This way we can have a date and site before year's end (preferably by end of 3Q) so vendors, subject matter experts, attendees and others can properly prepare and budget for attendance.? This would also allow for the formation of a collectively natured GRC Steering Committee that includes as many stakeholders in the noncommercial educational broadcast sector who wish to be on board. Therefore, I would definitely support the reformation of the GRC Steering Committee and I nominate myself as one of the members of this collective, but I cannot support using efforts to present a 2023 GRC, but instead, be focused on a 2024 GRC and making it the best GRC ever. -- *Michelle Bradley, CBT, KU3N* /Founder: REC Networks/ +1 202 621-2355 https://recnet.com facebook.com/recnet - Twitter: @michichan From ad253 at freeelectron.net Tue Mar 28 18:01:10 2023 From: ad253 at freeelectron.net (al davis) Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2023 20:01:10 -0500 Subject: [grc] GRC Meeting - TONIGHT @ 8 PM ET In-Reply-To: <8da1b537-fdbf-f820-8a8d-447741f1ce23@recnet.com> References: <99042021-7a9e-7de4-a84b-3ac20452ee62@effectivedefense.org> <94DEAD46-2F9D-4BE5-8C31-307C313A57A0@gmail.com> <22e7aa4cec508de1a81871ea06935fcf@artxfm.com> <675cf2c00aa1076ca5254a18036341d4@artxfm.com> <758779967b64fd98a72341f3014832a9@artxfm.com> <8da1b537-fdbf-f820-8a8d-447741f1ce23@recnet.com> Message-ID: <20230329010110.GA19181@freeelectron.net> On Tue, Mar 28, 2023 at 01:31:54PM -0400, Michelle Bradley via grc wrote: > Therefore, I would definitely support the reformation of the GRC > Steering Committee and I nominate myself as one of the members of > this collective, .............. Please .. NO NO NO. We don't need a repeat of that fiasco. GRC is what it is. If you want something else, you can start your own conference with a new name. The conference has always had a de-facto informal steering committee. It was working great until GRCA came along. From ad253 at freeelectron.net Tue Mar 28 18:55:50 2023 From: ad253 at freeelectron.net (al davis) Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2023 20:55:50 -0500 Subject: [grc] GRC Meeting - TONIGHT @ 8 PM ET In-Reply-To: <8da1b537-fdbf-f820-8a8d-447741f1ce23@recnet.com> References: <99042021-7a9e-7de4-a84b-3ac20452ee62@effectivedefense.org> <94DEAD46-2F9D-4BE5-8C31-307C313A57A0@gmail.com> <22e7aa4cec508de1a81871ea06935fcf@artxfm.com> <675cf2c00aa1076ca5254a18036341d4@artxfm.com> <758779967b64fd98a72341f3014832a9@artxfm.com> <8da1b537-fdbf-f820-8a8d-447741f1ce23@recnet.com> Message-ID: <20230329015550.GA19402@freeelectron.net> On Tue, Mar 28, 2023 at 01:31:54PM -0400, Michelle Bradley via grc wrote: > ............. A lot of people, > especially the vendors who will financially support the show as well > as the subject matter experts already have their agendas and budgets > set up for the year. GRC has never had much in "vendor" exhibits, and that's ok with me. If you want "vendor" exhibits, try NFCB or NAB. GRC has always been a place where the "family" can show their stuff. Some of the "family" have even sponsored the conference, financially. The "family" often can't justify the price of a booth at NFCB. GRC has also been a place for the real "subject matter experts" to share real info. Do not confuse this with the corporate sponsored X-spurts at other conferences, who are more interested in selling a product or pushing an agenda that is not ours, and not "grassroots". From kenyalewis at gmail.com Tue Mar 28 19:27:02 2023 From: kenyalewis at gmail.com (kenya lewis) Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2023 19:27:02 -0700 Subject: [grc] GRC Meeting - TONIGHT @ 8 PM ET In-Reply-To: <20230329015550.GA19402@freeelectron.net> References: <20230329015550.GA19402@freeelectron.net> Message-ID: <589F6CBE-9444-4922-9025-7FDF4D2B6D3B@gmail.com> I couldn?t make the meeting tonight. I?d love to support a 2023 event. In Denver around NFCB could be cool. I?d also be down to help logistics if you wanna do it in Oakland. > On Mar 28, 2023, at 6:56 PM, al davis via grc wrote: > > ?On Tue, Mar 28, 2023 at 01:31:54PM -0400, Michelle Bradley via grc wrote: >> ............. A lot of people, >> especially the vendors who will financially support the show as well >> as the subject matter experts already have their agendas and budgets >> set up for the year. > > GRC has never had much in "vendor" exhibits, and that's ok with me. > If you want "vendor" exhibits, try NFCB or NAB. > > GRC has always been a place where the "family" can show their stuff. > Some of the "family" have even sponsored the conference, financially. > The "family" often can't justify the price of a booth at NFCB. > > GRC has also been a place for the real "subject matter experts" to > share real info. Do not confuse this with the corporate sponsored > X-spurts at other conferences, who are more interested in selling a > product or pushing an agenda that is not ours, and not "grassroots". > > > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc From mae at recnet.com Wed Mar 29 07:45:17 2023 From: mae at recnet.com (Michelle Bradley) Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2023 10:45:17 -0400 Subject: [grc] GRC Meeting - TONIGHT @ 8 PM ET In-Reply-To: <20230329010110.GA19181@freeelectron.net> References: <99042021-7a9e-7de4-a84b-3ac20452ee62@effectivedefense.org> <94DEAD46-2F9D-4BE5-8C31-307C313A57A0@gmail.com> <22e7aa4cec508de1a81871ea06935fcf@artxfm.com> <675cf2c00aa1076ca5254a18036341d4@artxfm.com> <758779967b64fd98a72341f3014832a9@artxfm.com> <8da1b537-fdbf-f820-8a8d-447741f1ce23@recnet.com> <20230329010110.GA19181@freeelectron.net> Message-ID: The concept of a Steering Committee and the GRCA are two totally different things.? Apples and oranges. The GRCA (Grassroots Radio Conference Association) concept was considered in the wake of numerous incidents involving the misappropriation of GRC seed money and property (the quilt).? The idea of the GRCA was to establish a separate legal organization that would be able to open a bank account to hold the seed money between conferences and be a place to transact business such as accept donations and grant scholarships.? It would have been the "host" of the GRC from the time when one year's conference ends and before the next year's conference starts organizing. The GRC Steering Committee concept goes back to 2011 based on a need to coordinate discussions, assist in conference planning and maintain institutional memory in line with the GRC's decentralized, grassroots nature. We are living in different times now.? We are no longer wearing tie dye shirts, driving VW microbuses, sitting around a campfire with an acoustic guitar and banging on tambourines, singing folk songs.?? The days of dropping acid have given way to meth and fentinyl.? We need to stop thinking like '60s hippies and think like business people given the many changes in today's environment also taking into consideration that current times are not safe in some areas, worse than ever before, for POC and the LGBT (especially the T).? We must also assure that the GRC embraces our modern day social diversity (the GRC has been getting better at this over time). As far as I know, no one (not even myself) is even considering a concept of the GRCA, even though some form of organization would help protect the GRC movement in the future from repeating incidents that have taken place in the past.?? Again, times have changed.? But then again, the decentralized aspect of the GRC is one of its qualities.? As a decentralized collective, our trust was violated in the past and some of us at the time did not want to see that happen again. As far as vendors and sponsors go.? Money does not grow on trees.? Virtually every GRC I have been to has had exhibitors. These exhibitors should be welcomed as by their presence, they are embracing the grassroots radio movement and the work that we all do.? SCMS has a recommendation on the REC website, solely based on their multiple GRC appearances. The additional funds from sponsors assures the procurement of venues, the ability to cater lunches, enhance the general operating costs, keep the admission prices down and increase the ability to offer scholarships for representatives of organizations that may be economically disadvantaged. Subject matter experts are not necessarily corporate representatives.? They are people like you and me who know our subject areas very well and attend conferences to present our knowledge in order to spread it to others, not to drum up more business.? We have budgets too.? I have been able in the past to fundraise in order to offset my travel costs, but I can't always count on that. Again, on the subject of a GRC in 2023.? I talk to many stations, both what you we would consider as "grassroots" and those that are not, and right now, stations are strapped.? When you consider that virtually every station is going to be paying between $159~$500 for a government imposed (unnecessary for radio) EAS software upgrade, the ongoing rise in music licensing costs and the recovery of underwriters lost during COVID, 2023 is going to be a hard year for many stations to attend a conference, especially if the location is beyond "roadtrip" distance. I do feel that we should be soliciting a host for a conference for 2024.? This will give the host much more time to get things together, drum up local community support and fund raise.? This will also give all of the participants more time to make plans, allot budgets and get through the 2023 EAS nonsense that was imposed on us. If we must have a 2023 GRC, it should be somewhere that would have the least impact to travel, such as somewhere on the I-95 corridor and Amtrak Northeast Corridor.? Perhaps in the DMV area. Maybe we can talk WERA-LP, WHCP-LP, etc. to look at the potential.? Plus, this could give some opportunities to meet with FCC staff and our representatives in Congress (or staff) during the trip to discuss priorities that favor grassroots radio. I do like Kenya's idea for a conference in the Bay Area, but let's work on something like that for 2024. Just my thoughts (and only my thoughts).? As a collective, we all have our own thoughts, and your thoughts may vary. =m On 3/28/2023 9:01 PM, al davis via grc wrote: > On Tue, Mar 28, 2023 at 01:31:54PM -0400, Michelle Bradley via grc wrote: >> Therefore, I would definitely support the reformation of the GRC >> Steering Committee and I nominate myself as one of the members of >> this collective, .............. > Please .. NO NO NO. > > We don't need a repeat of that fiasco. > > GRC is what it is. If you want something else, you can start your own > conference with a new name. > > The conference has always had a de-facto informal steering committee. > It was working great until GRCA came along. > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc -- *Michelle Bradley, CBT, KU3N* /Founder: REC Networks/ +1 202 621-2355 https://recnet.com facebook.com/recnet - Twitter: @michichan From gm at artxfm.com Wed Mar 29 12:25:43 2023 From: gm at artxfm.com (Sharon Scott) Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2023 15:25:43 -0400 Subject: [grc] GRC Meeting in review In-Reply-To: References: <99042021-7a9e-7de4-a84b-3ac20452ee62@effectivedefense.org> <94DEAD46-2F9D-4BE5-8C31-307C313A57A0@gmail.com> <22e7aa4cec508de1a81871ea06935fcf@artxfm.com> <675cf2c00aa1076ca5254a18036341d4@artxfm.com> <758779967b64fd98a72341f3014832a9@artxfm.com> <8da1b537-fdbf-f820-8a8d-447741f1ce23@recnet.com> <20230329010110.GA19181@freeelectron.net> Message-ID: Dear Friends, Thank you to everyone who attended last night's GRC Meet-Up! It is always such a pleasure to connected with grassroots radio stations & the supporters nationwide! ... There were many familiar faces in attendance and some new friends as well. Overall there was great enthusiasm about the next IN-PERSON GRC!!!! We had two sponsors step up - Spinitron as well as Broadcast Tool & Die. We have at least three stations that are *considering* hosting this Fall and several others that are interested in hosting in 2024. FINGERS CROSSED! We addressed the issue that it might be turnaround for an event for this year but decided to leave it up to Nature to decide. Should a station step up and feel like they can host it, we welcome them to do so. GRC is a D.I.Y. conference to the core and nobody is expecting anything fancy. Besides, radio people are accustom to working quickly under pressure, around the clock. There are still 6 months until Fall and stations have certainly pulled wonderful conference together quickly in the past! At the same time, we welcome the idea of getting a head start on the 2024 conference that can be totally over there top! It seems there would be great enthusiasm for attendance -- whenever in the world it may be! If your station is interested in hosting, we welcome you to complete the application below. If you prefer, you may directly contact me or to listserve coordinator David Klann GRC Station Host Application: https://forms.gle/sVX7Md1nnRhiZqMy8 Feel free to reach out to me or representatives from another previous station host if you have any questions about hosting the conference. There are many of us who are willing to help make it happen! The GRC is a great team builder for your station and your community -- and always such an incredible opportunity for the grassroots radio movement as a whole. ***** ALSO . . . It was decided last night that we would re-establish the monthly GRC Meet-Ups to The FOURTH TUESDAY of EVERY MONTH at 8 PM EASTERN TIME via Zoom. Each month, the Zoom will be hosted by another member of the GRC Community. Thank you to Isobel with WUSB at Stony Brook University on Long Island for stepping up to host the April 25th Zoom. Please mark your calendars! https://www.wusb.fm Hope to see you soon! ~Sharon