From mike at brownbroadcast.com Thu Feb 1 17:49:14 2024 From: mike at brownbroadcast.com (Michael Brown) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2024 17:49:14 -0800 Subject: [grc] MEDIA BUREAU PROVIDES GUIDANCE ON THE PROCESSING of LPFM APPLICATIONS Message-ID: <00b601da557a$07299e30$157cda90$@brownbroadcast.com> Very little in the way of "new" information, here, but still important reading. https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-24-92A1.pdf Michael D. Brown Brown Broadcast Services, Inc. From mike at brownbroadcast.com Tue Feb 6 09:43:49 2024 From: mike at brownbroadcast.com (Michael Brown) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2024 09:43:49 -0800 Subject: [grc] Sage EAS firmware update is available NOW.... In-Reply-To: <1141181947120.1130666119252.1170307026.0.241135JL.2002@synd.ccsend.com> References: <1141181947120.1130666119252.1170307026.0.241135JL.2002@synd.ccsend.com> Message-ID: <008401da5924$0b5ed530$221c7f90$@brownbroadcast.com> ?.and there are less than 5 weeks left for all users to purchase and install it. $159 (Newer units may get it free). See below? Michael D. Brown Brown Broadcast Services, Inc. From: Sage Alerting Systems Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2024 8:35 AM To: mike at brownbroadcast.com Subject: Sage ENDEC Firmware Update Rev96 Now Available February 6, 2024 This message is from Sage Alerting Systems regarding your Sage Digital ENDEC model 3644. It applies only to users in the United States. Sage has released the Rev 96 firmware update. You will need to install this update by March 11, 2024 to meet the FCC rules regarding CAP Prioritization and national message text. The list price of the update is $159, available from any of our distributors. 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This will reduce the amount of time needed to acquire and review the log data, and reduce the number of people that need to access the ENDEC. This will help to further highlight compliance issues such as failure to receive RWTs and RMTs, and to send RWTs and relay RMTs. Additional features are described in the release notes. Additional information: https://www.sagealertingsystems.com/Rev96Questionsv2.pdf Release notes: https://www.sagealertingsystems.com/Rev96-release-notes.pdf List of Distributors: https://www.sagealertingsystems.com/Distributors.htm If you have any questions regarding this update, please email us at support at sagealertingsystems.com or call 914-872-4069 and press 1 for support. If you get voice mail, please leave a message and we will return your call. ---------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.gif Type: image/gif Size: 43 bytes Desc: not available URL: From mike at brownbroadcast.com Sat Feb 10 22:21:14 2024 From: mike at brownbroadcast.com (Michael Brown) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2024 22:21:14 -0800 Subject: [grc] MONDAY Radio For People Zoom Meeting 10AM PST / 1PM EST Message-ID: <000201da5cb2$83cc0150$8b6403f0$@brownbroadcast.com> Join us Monday 2/12 for the monthly Radio for People Zoom Meeting 10AM PST / 1PM EST --A frank discussion of current issues regarding Community Radio-- The meeting is open to all community-radio activists and station people. Same Zoom link as last month. For a link to the meeting: betty at c-map.org AGENDA IN PROGRESS --LPFM Filing Window Over 170 Singletons have now been granted. Roughly 800 more to go. Freeze on LPFM amendments is now lifted Official MX Group List expected soon. MX applicants can freely communicate now . FCC is moving very quickly. Low hanging fruit? --Other FCC Updates Sage EAS update available now - March 11 deadline. $159 Document on FCC circulation to approve Zonecasting --Station Updates Lot?s of LFPM grants for Community Stations Alabama AM station claims tower was stolen overnight. Credible? (station has FM XLTR) Wider discussion on station security and transmitter monitoring. --Conferences and Training NFCB Webinars: Regional Community Radio Coalitions - Feb 15 Political Broadcasting - March 7 GRC planning group expecting to meet monthly via Zoom, on 4th Tuesday The group is soliciting a GRC host for this year - probably in the Fall? Michael D. Brown Brown Broadcast Services, Inc. 3740 SW Comus St. ? Portland OR 97219-7418 USA mike at brownbroadcast.com ? www.brownbroadcast.com offc 503-245-6065 ? cell 503-703-3202 From mike at brownbroadcast.com Sun Feb 11 21:54:43 2024 From: mike at brownbroadcast.com (Michael Brown) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2024 21:54:43 -0800 Subject: [grc] MONDAY: Radio for People Zoom Meeting 10AM PST / 1PM EST Message-ID: <001a01da5d77$fa6eaea0$ef4c0be0$@brownbroadcast.com> Join us Monday 2/12 for the monthly Radio for People Zoom Meeting 10AM PST / 1PM EST Same Zoom link as last month. For a link to the meeting: betty at c-map.org AGENDA --LPFM Filing Window Over 170 Singletons have now been granted. Roughly 800 more to go. Freeze on LPFM amendments now lifted Official MX Group List expected soon. MX applicants can freely communicate now . FCC is moving very quickly. Low hanging fruit? --Other FCC Updates Sage EAS update available now - March 11 deadline. $159 Document on FCC circulation to approve Zonecasting --Station Updates Lot?s of LFPM grants for Community Stations Alabama AM station claims tower was stolen overnight. Credible? (station has FM XLTR) Wider discussion on station security and transmitter monitoring. --Conferences and Training NFCB Webinars: Regional Community Radio Coalitions - Feb 15 Political Broadcasting - March 7 GRC planning group expecting to meet monthly via Zoom, on 4th Tuesday The group is soliciting a GRC host for this year Michael D. Brown Brown Broadcast Services, Inc. 3740 SW Comus St. ? Portland OR 97219-7418 USA mike at brownbroadcast.com ? www.brownbroadcast.com offc 503-245-6065 ? cell 503-703-3202 From LloydEwing at gmx.com Mon Feb 12 01:40:09 2024 From: LloydEwing at gmx.com (Lloyd Ewing) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2024 03:40:09 -0600 Subject: [grc] Grassroots Radio Conference 2024 Directives Message-ID: I do not see where Sharon Scott has been given the authority to determine how the next Grassroots Radio Conference is to be chosen. She implies that her decisions were made by a group attending a Zoom meeting that she held on January 23, but I do not see how anyone who was at that meeting would say that Sharon was given this authority. I do not see how anyone who was at the meeting would say that her pronouncements were endorsed by the people who attended that meeting. There was no announcement prior to the meeting to indicate that major decisions about the future of the GRC would be on the agenda. At the meeting there was no discussion about what method should be used to determine how the next GRC should be chosen, and there was almost no discussion about what criteria should be used to determine when and where we should have a GRC in 2024. In mandating that applications from groups that want to host the next GRC must be submitted to Sharon prior to her next Zoom meeting (February 27) she is ensuring that there will be very few submissions. Only people who have already been preparing to host a GRC will be able to meet that deadline. At Sharon's meeting Damon Cater mentioned that he is ready and willing to host a repeat of his 2023 GRC again in 2024. I have no quarrel with Damon, and having him serve as host for the next GRC may be the best choice, but there are a multitude of issues and concerns that should be considered before that decision is made. This is just a few considerations off the top or my head that I think we could discuss: Is someone interested in hosing a less expensive GRC? It seems that GRC 2023 may be the most expensive conference in my memory. Would it not be better to hold GRC conferences in a different city each year? Perhaps we could return to the same city on alternate years. How do people who live on the west coast think about having to traveling such long distances? Did anyone find a good alternative to an extended trip in a rental car from one of the major airports in the area? Could presentations be recorded for the benefit of those who are not able to attend? Damon admitted to pocketing a good profit from the GRC (was it 10k on 35k revenue?) I do not think that is unreasonable, assuming his own funds were at risk in preparing for the GRC, but someone else might offer other uses for the proceeds. Is the GRC in danger of turning into a professionally managed event like the NFCB, and what can we do to ensure that it remains an informal gathering for people who do not have the backing of large institutions and agencies? Does the GRC exist for professionals who earn income from promoting their services to community broadcasters, or does it exist for the small community broadcasters to share and offer mutual support? Should decisions within the GRC be mandated by a particular person or a closed group, or do we want decisions to be made by an open process where all are invited to participate? Etc.... As for what went on at the Sharon's January 23 meeting, this would be my summary: The meeting drifted on for what seemed like an hour with mostly small talk and reiteration of things that most of us already knew. By then most people had checked out mentally, even if they were still sitting in front of their computers. After talking about the GRC conferences in general, Sharon abruptly announced that anyone who wanted to host the GRC in 2024 would have to submit proposals to her before the next Zoom meeting February 27. There were a couple of weak attempts to address the issues and to clarify Sharon's pronouncement, but strong leadership from the chair kept the pace of the meeting from dwelling on any of those questions, and the meeting ended soon after that. She said that her "steering committee" would choose from the proposals that were submitted, but she did not explain who that would be or how it was to happen. The people who attended the final meeting of the GRC in Rochester may see a pattern here. From bkobb at ieee.org Mon Feb 12 05:29:06 2024 From: bkobb at ieee.org (Bennett Kobb) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2024 08:29:06 -0500 Subject: [grc] Grassroots Radio Conference 2024 Directives Message-ID: > I do not see how anyone who was at that meeting would say that Sharon was given this authority. I don't see where Sharon needed to be given any authority. What authority would convey that authority? > I do not see how anyone who was at the meeting would say that her pronouncements were endorsed by the people who attended that meeting. I don't recall that anyone objected to Sharon's stepping forward after taking everyone's comments into account, and setting a deadline so people have a target to aim for. Mandates and pronouncements don't really describe her style. > At the meeting there was no discussion about what method should be used to determine how the next GRC should be chosen If there were competing proposals some method would be needed to choose one. That is not the situation yet and was not the situation last year or the year before. > Is someone interested in hosting a less expensive GRC? It seems that GRC 2023 may be the most expensive conference in my memory. Maybe it was. Considerable expense apparently was covered by in-kind donations and sales of vendor slots and merch. > Would it not be better to hold GRC conferences in a different city each year? Perhaps we could return to the same city on alternate years. This was discussed a good bit at the Zoom meeting. It's not an issue now as no formal proposals are on the table at this time, only the willingness of Team Status Quo to fill the need. > How do people who live on the west coast think about having to traveling such long distances? Surely they can propose to hold conferences closer to them. Ideally it would be more central. Has there been one in Texas yet? > Did anyone find a good alternative to an extended trip in a rental car from one of the major airports in the area? The hotel-provided airport van worked out OK. > Could presentations be recorded for the benefit of those who are not able to attend? They should be, but that could require some professional management. > Damon admitted to pocketing a good profit from the GRC (was it 10k on 35k revenue?) I do not think that is unreasonable, assuming his own funds were at risk in preparing for the GRC, but someone else might offer other uses for the proceeds. There was much discussion and contrasting views on other uses for the proceeds. > what can we do to ensure that it remains an informal gathering for people who do not have the backing of large institutions and agencies? How many GRCs have been backed by large institutions? WTSQ got some backing from the local visitors bureau. Every GRC should. > Is the GRC in danger of turning into a professionally managed event like the NFCB I would describe 2023 GRC as professional in management though staffed by volunteers who have other jobs and responsibilities - in addition to running a radio station. The latest filing window illustrates how attendance could potentially increase. Professional meeting planning should be welcome. > Does the GRC exist for professionals who earn income from promoting their services to community broadcasters, or does it exist for the small community broadcasters to share and offer mutual support? 2023 was my second GRC. If those two conferences were any indication, they included very few who earn income from broadcasting services. I see no indication that this basic character is changing. > Should decisions within the GRC be mandated by a particular person or a closed group, or do we want decisions to be made by an open process where all are invited to participate? A minimum level of process was volunteered by a person recognized in the community for her leadership. From folkbloke at gmail.com Mon Feb 12 05:56:08 2024 From: folkbloke at gmail.com (Todd Tyson) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2024 08:56:08 -0500 Subject: [grc] Grassroots Radio Conference 2024 Directives In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Will today?s GRC Zoom meeting be videotaped for later viewing as I am unavailable today at 1PM Eastern. There is a good chance that a post-?24 future Conference could be hosted by a coalition of community stations here in the Green Mountain State! Todd from Free Vermont Radio/WFVR-LP On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 8:29?AM Bennett Kobb via grc wrote: > > I do not see how anyone who was at that meeting would say that Sharon was > given this authority. > > I don't see where Sharon needed to be given any authority. What authority > would convey that authority? > > > I do not see how anyone who was at the meeting would say that her > pronouncements were endorsed by the people who attended that meeting. > > I don't recall that anyone objected to Sharon's stepping forward after > taking everyone's comments into account, and setting a deadline so people > have a target to aim for. Mandates and pronouncements don't really describe > her style. > > > At the meeting there was no discussion about what method should be used > to determine how the next GRC should be chosen > > If there were competing proposals some method would be needed to choose > one. That is not the situation yet and was not the situation last year or > the year before. > > > Is someone interested in hosting a less expensive GRC? It seems that GRC > 2023 may be the most expensive conference in my memory. > > Maybe it was. Considerable expense apparently was covered by in-kind > donations and sales of vendor slots and merch. > > > Would it not be better to hold GRC conferences in a different city each > year? Perhaps we could return to the same city on alternate years. > > This was discussed a good bit at the Zoom meeting. It's not an issue now as > no formal proposals are on the table at this time, only the willingness of > Team Status Quo to fill the need. > > > How do people who live on the west coast think about having to traveling > such long distances? > > Surely they can propose to hold conferences closer to them. Ideally it > would be more central. Has there been one in Texas yet? > > > Did anyone find a good alternative to an extended trip in a rental car > from one of the major airports in the area? > > The hotel-provided airport van worked out OK. > > > Could presentations be recorded for the benefit of those who are not able > to attend? > > They should be, but that could require some professional management. > > > Damon admitted to pocketing a good profit from the GRC (was it 10k on 35k > revenue?) I do not think that is unreasonable, assuming his own funds were > at risk in preparing for the GRC, but someone else might offer other uses > for the proceeds. > > There was much discussion and contrasting views on other uses for the > proceeds. > > > what can we do to ensure that it remains an informal gathering for > people who do not have the backing of large institutions and agencies? > > How many GRCs have been backed by large institutions? WTSQ got some backing > from the local visitors bureau. Every GRC should. > > > Is the GRC in danger of turning into a professionally managed event like > the NFCB > > I would describe 2023 GRC as professional in management though staffed by > volunteers who have other jobs and responsibilities - in addition to > running a radio station. > > The latest filing window illustrates how attendance could potentially > increase. Professional meeting planning should be welcome. > > > Does the GRC exist for professionals who earn income from promoting their > services to community broadcasters, or does it exist for the small > community broadcasters to share and offer mutual support? > > 2023 was my second GRC. If those two conferences were any indication, they > included very few who earn income from broadcasting services. I see no > indication that this basic character is changing. > > > Should decisions within the GRC be mandated by a particular person or a > closed group, or do we want decisions to be made by an open process where > all are invited to participate? > > A minimum level of process was volunteered by a person recognized in the > community for her leadership. > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > From kenyalewis at gmail.com Mon Feb 12 07:20:15 2024 From: kenyalewis at gmail.com (kenya lewis) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2024 07:20:15 -0800 Subject: [grc] Grassroots Radio Conference 2024 Directives In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <836372D7-44EF-4099-A0E9-8635FC373D73@gmail.com> I?ve seen Sharon lean in to fill gaps and make sure GRC happens. Out of a sincere love for the conference. Pointing fingers at someone making an effort rather than volunteering to take on the tasks yourself or offering solutions is not helpful. Esp at 1:40 am. As I recollect a deadline is needed to confirm hosts so all the event can be announced, people can travel, we can lose and find and freak about the quilt a few times, etc. Every year, travel is burdensome to some people. It?s been on both East and West coasts. Volunteering to host is a big lift. Unless there are other volunteers it makes sense to agree and get things underway. > On Feb 12, 2024, at 1:40?AM, Lloyd Ewing via grc wrote: > > ?I do not see where Sharon Scott has been given the authority to > determine how the next Grassroots Radio Conference is to be chosen. She > implies that her decisions were made by a group attending a Zoom meeting > that she held on January 23, but I do not see how anyone who was at that > meeting would say that Sharon was given this authority. I do not see > how anyone who was at the meeting would say that her pronouncements were > endorsed by the people who attended that meeting. > > There was no announcement prior to the meeting to indicate that major > decisions about the future of the GRC would be on the agenda. At the > meeting there was no discussion about what method should be used to > determine how the next GRC should be chosen, and there was almost no > discussion about what criteria should be used to determine when and > where we should have a GRC in 2024. > > In mandating that applications from groups that want to host the next > GRC must be submitted to Sharon prior to her next Zoom meeting (February > 27) she is ensuring that there will be very few submissions. Only > people who have already been preparing to host a GRC will be able to > meet that deadline. At Sharon's meeting Damon Cater mentioned that he > is ready and willing to host a repeat of his 2023 GRC again in 2024. I > have no quarrel with Damon, and having him serve as host for the next > GRC may be the best choice, but there are a multitude of issues and > concerns that should be considered before that decision is made. > > This is just a few considerations off the top or my head that I think we > could discuss: > > Is someone interested in hosing a less expensive GRC? It seems that GRC > 2023 may be the most expensive conference in my memory. > > Would it not be better to hold GRC conferences in a different city each > year? Perhaps we could return to the same city on alternate years. > > How do people who live on the west coast think about having to traveling > such long distances? > > Did anyone find a good alternative to an extended trip in a rental car > from one of the major airports in the area? > > Could presentations be recorded for the benefit of those who are not > able to attend? > > Damon admitted to pocketing a good profit from the GRC (was it 10k on > 35k revenue?) I do not think that is unreasonable, assuming his own > funds were at risk in preparing for the GRC, but someone else might > offer other uses for the proceeds. > > Is the GRC in danger of turning into a professionally managed event like > the NFCB, and what can we do to ensure that it remains an informal > gathering for people who do not have the backing of large institutions > and agencies? > > Does the GRC exist for professionals who earn income from promoting > their services to community broadcasters, or does it exist for the small > community broadcasters to share and offer mutual support? > > Should decisions within the GRC be mandated by a particular person or a > closed group, or do we want decisions to be made by an open process > where all are invited to participate? > > Etc.... > > > As for what went on at the Sharon's January 23 meeting, this would be my > summary: > > The meeting drifted on for what seemed like an hour with mostly small > talk and reiteration of things that most of us already knew. By then > most people had checked out mentally, even if they were still sitting in > front of their computers. After talking about the GRC conferences in > general, Sharon abruptly announced that anyone who wanted to host the > GRC in 2024 would have to submit proposals to her before the next Zoom > meeting February 27. There were a couple of weak attempts to address > the issues and to clarify Sharon's pronouncement, but strong leadership > from the chair kept the pace of the meeting from dwelling on any of > those questions, and the meeting ended soon after that. She said that > her "steering committee" would choose from the proposals that were > submitted, but she did not explain who that would be or how it was to > happen. > > The people who attended the final meeting of the GRC in Rochester may > see a pattern here. > > > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc From mike at brownbroadcast.com Mon Feb 12 08:19:17 2024 From: mike at brownbroadcast.com (Michael Brown) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2024 08:19:17 -0800 Subject: [grc] **TODAY** at 10AM PST / 1PM EST -- Radio for People Zoom Meeting Message-ID: <004301da5dcf$3aa694e0$aff3bea0$@brownbroadcast.com> Same Zoom link as last month. For a link to the meeting: betty at c-map.org AGENDA --LPFM Filing Window Over 170 Singletons have now been granted. Roughly 800 more to go. Many MX groups dissolved voluntarily. Freeze on LPFM amendments now lifted Official MX Group List expected soon from the FCC. MX applicants can freely communicate now . FCC is moving very quickly. Low hanging fruit (e.g.: how does the FCC prioritize what they grant first?) --Other FCC Updates Sage EAS update available now - March 11 deadline. $159 Document on FCC circulation to approve Zonecasting --Station Updates Lot?s of LFPM grants for Community Stations Alabama AM station claims tower was stolen overnight. Credible? (station has FM XLTR) Wider discussion on station security and transmitter monitoring. --Conferences and Training NFCB Webinars: Regional Community Radio Coalitions - Feb 15 Political Broadcasting - March 7 GRC planning group expecting to meet monthly via Zoom, on 4th Tuesday The group is soliciting a GRC host for this year Michael D. Brown Brown Broadcast Services, Inc. 3740 SW Comus St. ? Portland OR 97219-7418 USA mike at brownbroadcast.com ? www.brownbroadcast.com offc 503-245-6065 ? cell 503-703-3202 From gm at artxfm.com Mon Feb 12 10:09:34 2024 From: gm at artxfm.com (Sharon Scott) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2024 13:09:34 -0500 Subject: [grc] Grassroots Radio Conference 2024 Directives In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42d709a03dd71d75eeaa2f53863068b9@artxfm.com> Good Morning Everyone, Our station, WXOX celebrated 8 years on air with a massive party this weekend and I was really hoping to have a relaxing Monday morning. I never expected to wake up to something like this from someone in the independent radio world I try hard to serve. Ill-informed, misguided attacks of this nature are a poison to the Grassroots Radio Community we are trying so hard to build. However, they say any publicity is good publicity so my only hope is that this unnecessary drama will lead to more participation with the GRC. Then people can make up their mind for themselves if we want to move forward together or stay where we are out here on our own. I don't have the time or negative energy to spend dissecting Lloyd's email which is completely off-base. I appreciate Bennett for doing so - accurately - in his response. Let me briefly address: I do not lead the GRC, I simply am the only one who EVER steps up to host the monthly web-meetings (distinct from today's Radio for People call which the WXOX on-air schedule always prevents me from attending). If you review the last GRC Meet-Up, you will hear that my ask for volunteers to host the next Zoom but was greeted with total silence - as it is every time. Following each meeting, I or another member of the WXOX staff then posts the discussion to the Virtual GRC YouTube Channel so that folks who could not make it will have the opportunity to catch it later. We do this as volunteer work BECAUSE NO ONE ELSE WILL and we feel it is important that it get done and this community stay connected. Not because we enjoy it or even have time for it. Virtual GRC on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/virtualgrc In fact, now that you mention it, it would be great to have some relief here. Are any stations interested in hosting the next GRC Monthly Meet-up via Zoom? As always, it is scheduled for the 4th Tues on the month at 8 PM which lands on Feb. 27th this time. HOLLA! GRC STEERING COMMITTEE Neither I nor anybody else has authority in the Grassroots Radio Conference. It is - and will remain - purposefully de-centralized, non-commerical, and free of any board or official leadership. Otis has the perfect saying for it, someone help me remember? .... The trouble is meetings among community stations separated by many hundreds of miles aren't going to magically happen. Annual Conferences where station leaders get together, share ideas and inspiration, aren't going to appear on their own. There needs to be someone or some group of people moving it along. We do this is the most hands-off way we possibly can according to the directive established by attendees at the GRC Conference in 2011 in Madison, Wisconsin: "At the GRC11 in Madison, Wisconsin, conference attendees decided to create a Steering Committee to help coordinate discussions, assist in conference planning, and maintain institutional memory. The concept of the steering committee is in line with the GRC's decentralized, grassroots nature. Though there is no minimum or maximum number of members of the steering committee, it was agreed that it should include representatives from stations who have hosted past GRC conferences, representatives from future GRC conference hosts, and representatives from the People of Color caucus." In regards to GRC 2024, we have made national calls to this list-serve and to our social media pages for more GRC Steering Committee representatives from other host stations. Here it goes again: IF YOUR STATION HAS PREVIOUSLY HOSTED A GRC CONFERENCE please contact us so we can get a representative from your staff involved on the GRC Steering Committee. The Steering Committee meets online a few times a year to make calls for host stations, review submissions, and assist the host station with the conference prep. Right now the GRC Steering Committee includes: Ted Coe KCSB Zac Smith KUHS Max Kelley WAYO Sharon Scott WXOX LaGanzie Kale KLEK Joseph Orozco KIDE Damon Cater WTSQ But to be honest, you can ask WTSQ - the hosts of the 2023 conference - how much of a role the Steering Committee played in the direction and organization of their conference. They will tell you practically none. Once the station steps up to host, aside from handing them a quilt and some seed money, the Steering Committee remains decidedly hands-off until they are asked for help -- and at which point we do so by calling on the greater grassroots radio committee by posting to this listserve, the social media pages, and whatnot. This hands-off approach allows each station to build a conference to their liking that reflects the personality of the station and their location. This is why each GRC Conference is so different, so exiting, so unique! GRC 2024 APPLICATIONS NOW OPEN!!!! Participants at the January Monthly Meet-Up determined we should go ahead and open the call for the 2024 GRC Conference Host so that folks would have time to plan. An application created by the Steering Committee with very basic information and was circulated to this list-serve and posted on GRC Social Media. It is NOW OPEN FOR SUBMISSIONS! We encourage stations to apply by the next GRC meet-up (Feb. 27th) so that they can make presentations at this February meet-up. It has not yet been determined when the station selection will take place. To be honest, in past years, the decision has made itself because we have only had one applicant. It would be a refreshing change to have a number of choices! So far this year, WTSQ Charleston is the only station that has submitted an application. The 2023 Conference they hosted in West Virginia was AMAZING - one of the very best - the entire WTSQ did an outstanding job making everything just right. For the first time ever, they have offered to host the conference again now that they have so much experience under their belt. However, part of the beauty of the GRC is that it has always been hosted by a different station each year but right now we don't have any other options and the most important thing is that the gathering happens. If your station would like to host the 2024 Grassroots Radio Conference, we encourage you get your applications in by Feb. 27th to have a chance to make your pitch at the next GRC Monthly-Meet Up: Grassroots Radio Conference Host Station Application https://forms.gle/8ntrykYjr5s8piVq8 Hope to see you there! In Solidarity, Sharon *************************** Sharon M. Scott Co-Founder & General Manager ARTxFM / WXOX 97.1 FM P.O. Box 5103 Louisville, Kentucky 40255 USA 502.640.6414 *************************** ARTxFM http://www.artxfm.com ************************ NEW BOOK: LOW POWER FM for DUMMIES https://www.amazon.com/Low-Power-Dummies-Sharon-Scott/dp/1394185324/ On 2024-02-12 04:40, Lloyd Ewing via grc wrote: > I do not see where Sharon Scott has been given the authority to > determine how the next Grassroots Radio Conference is to be chosen. > She > implies that her decisions were made by a group attending a Zoom > meeting > that she held on January 23, but I do not see how anyone who was at > that > meeting would say that Sharon was given this authority. I do not see > how anyone who was at the meeting would say that her pronouncements > were > endorsed by the people who attended that meeting. > > There was no announcement prior to the meeting to indicate that major > decisions about the future of the GRC would be on the agenda. At the > meeting there was no discussion about what method should be used to > determine how the next GRC should be chosen, and there was almost no > discussion about what criteria should be used to determine when and > where we should have a GRC in 2024. > > In mandating that applications from groups that want to host the next > GRC must be submitted to Sharon prior to her next Zoom meeting > (February > 27) she is ensuring that there will be very few submissions. Only > people who have already been preparing to host a GRC will be able to > meet that deadline. At Sharon's meeting Damon Cater mentioned that he > is ready and willing to host a repeat of his 2023 GRC again in 2024. I > have no quarrel with Damon, and having him serve as host for the next > GRC may be the best choice, but there are a multitude of issues and > concerns that should be considered before that decision is made. > > This is just a few considerations off the top or my head that I think > we > could discuss: > > Is someone interested in hosing a less expensive GRC? It seems that > GRC > 2023 may be the most expensive conference in my memory. > > Would it not be better to hold GRC conferences in a different city each > year? Perhaps we could return to the same city on alternate years. > > How do people who live on the west coast think about having to > traveling > such long distances? > > Did anyone find a good alternative to an extended trip in a rental car > from one of the major airports in the area? > > Could presentations be recorded for the benefit of those who are not > able to attend? > > Damon admitted to pocketing a good profit from the GRC (was it 10k on > 35k revenue?) I do not think that is unreasonable, assuming his own > funds were at risk in preparing for the GRC, but someone else might > offer other uses for the proceeds. > > Is the GRC in danger of turning into a professionally managed event > like > the NFCB, and what can we do to ensure that it remains an informal > gathering for people who do not have the backing of large institutions > and agencies? > > Does the GRC exist for professionals who earn income from promoting > their services to community broadcasters, or does it exist for the > small > community broadcasters to share and offer mutual support? > > Should decisions within the GRC be mandated by a particular person or a > closed group, or do we want decisions to be made by an open process > where all are invited to participate? > > Etc.... > > > As for what went on at the Sharon's January 23 meeting, this would be > my > summary: > > The meeting drifted on for what seemed like an hour with mostly small > talk and reiteration of things that most of us already knew. By then > most people had checked out mentally, even if they were still sitting > in > front of their computers. After talking about the GRC conferences in > general, Sharon abruptly announced that anyone who wanted to host the > GRC in 2024 would have to submit proposals to her before the next Zoom > meeting February 27. There were a couple of weak attempts to address > the issues and to clarify Sharon's pronouncement, but strong leadership > from the chair kept the pace of the meeting from dwelling on any of > those questions, and the meeting ended soon after that. She said that > her "steering committee" would choose from the proposals that were > submitted, but she did not explain who that would be or how it was to > happen. > > The people who attended the final meeting of the GRC in Rochester may > see a pattern here. > > > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc From jrorozco932 at gmail.com Mon Feb 12 10:12:33 2024 From: jrorozco932 at gmail.com (Joseph Orozco) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2024 10:12:33 -0800 Subject: [grc] Grassroots Radio Conference 2024 Directives In-Reply-To: <836372D7-44EF-4099-A0E9-8635FC373D73@gmail.com> References: <836372D7-44EF-4099-A0E9-8635FC373D73@gmail.com> Message-ID: Sorry all, I hadn?t had coffee when I first read the thread. I have Dr. appt this hour. Sent with Peace and Balance > On Feb 12, 2024, at 7:20 AM, kenya lewis via grc wrote: > > ?I?ve seen Sharon lean in to fill gaps and make sure GRC happens. Out of a sincere love for the conference. > > Pointing fingers at someone making an effort rather than volunteering to take on the tasks yourself or offering solutions is not helpful. Esp at 1:40 am. > > As I recollect a deadline is needed to confirm hosts so all the event can be announced, people can travel, we can lose and find and freak about the quilt a few times, etc. > > Every year, travel is burdensome to some people. It?s been on both East and West coasts. Volunteering to host is a big lift. Unless there are other volunteers it makes sense to agree and get things underway. > >> On Feb 12, 2024, at 1:40?AM, Lloyd Ewing via grc wrote: >> >> ?I do not see where Sharon Scott has been given the authority to >> determine how the next Grassroots Radio Conference is to be chosen. She >> implies that her decisions were made by a group attending a Zoom meeting >> that she held on January 23, but I do not see how anyone who was at that >> meeting would say that Sharon was given this authority. I do not see >> how anyone who was at the meeting would say that her pronouncements were >> endorsed by the people who attended that meeting. >> >> There was no announcement prior to the meeting to indicate that major >> decisions about the future of the GRC would be on the agenda. At the >> meeting there was no discussion about what method should be used to >> determine how the next GRC should be chosen, and there was almost no >> discussion about what criteria should be used to determine when and >> where we should have a GRC in 2024. >> >> In mandating that applications from groups that want to host the next >> GRC must be submitted to Sharon prior to her next Zoom meeting (February >> 27) she is ensuring that there will be very few submissions. Only >> people who have already been preparing to host a GRC will be able to >> meet that deadline. At Sharon's meeting Damon Cater mentioned that he >> is ready and willing to host a repeat of his 2023 GRC again in 2024. I >> have no quarrel with Damon, and having him serve as host for the next >> GRC may be the best choice, but there are a multitude of issues and >> concerns that should be considered before that decision is made. >> >> This is just a few considerations off the top or my head that I think we >> could discuss: >> >> Is someone interested in hosing a less expensive GRC? It seems that GRC >> 2023 may be the most expensive conference in my memory. >> >> Would it not be better to hold GRC conferences in a different city each >> year? Perhaps we could return to the same city on alternate years. >> >> How do people who live on the west coast think about having to traveling >> such long distances? >> >> Did anyone find a good alternative to an extended trip in a rental car >> from one of the major airports in the area? >> >> Could presentations be recorded for the benefit of those who are not >> able to attend? >> >> Damon admitted to pocketing a good profit from the GRC (was it 10k on >> 35k revenue?) I do not think that is unreasonable, assuming his own >> funds were at risk in preparing for the GRC, but someone else might >> offer other uses for the proceeds. >> >> Is the GRC in danger of turning into a professionally managed event like >> the NFCB, and what can we do to ensure that it remains an informal >> gathering for people who do not have the backing of large institutions >> and agencies? >> >> Does the GRC exist for professionals who earn income from promoting >> their services to community broadcasters, or does it exist for the small >> community broadcasters to share and offer mutual support? >> >> Should decisions within the GRC be mandated by a particular person or a >> closed group, or do we want decisions to be made by an open process >> where all are invited to participate? >> >> Etc.... >> >> >> As for what went on at the Sharon's January 23 meeting, this would be my >> summary: >> >> The meeting drifted on for what seemed like an hour with mostly small >> talk and reiteration of things that most of us already knew. By then >> most people had checked out mentally, even if they were still sitting in >> front of their computers. After talking about the GRC conferences in >> general, Sharon abruptly announced that anyone who wanted to host the >> GRC in 2024 would have to submit proposals to her before the next Zoom >> meeting February 27. There were a couple of weak attempts to address >> the issues and to clarify Sharon's pronouncement, but strong leadership >> from the chair kept the pace of the meeting from dwelling on any of >> those questions, and the meeting ended soon after that. She said that >> her "steering committee" would choose from the proposals that were >> submitted, but she did not explain who that would be or how it was to >> happen. >> >> The people who attended the final meeting of the GRC in Rochester may >> see a pattern here. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> grc mailing list >> grc at maillist.peak.org >> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc From ddweber at wortfm.org Mon Feb 12 10:25:19 2024 From: ddweber at wortfm.org (David Devereaux-Weber) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2024 12:25:19 -0600 Subject: [grc] Grassroots Radio Conference 2024 Directives In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Lloyd, I recommend to your listening pleasure: Utah Phillips' story *Moose Turd Pie*. Here's a recording on YouTube: https://youtu.be/Q1ajLnuw2oo?si=sGXNMqgzWeelrdWN In the story, anyone who complained about the cooking became the next cook. One of the things volunteering teaches us is humility and respect for others who volunteer. That is the greatest gift of community media. Sharon volunteers because it is the right thing to do. She always asks for others who may want to volunteer. Sounds like you are stepping up to volunteer. Dave David Devereaux-Weber ddweber at wortfm.org (608)576-2599 On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 3:40?AM Lloyd Ewing via grc wrote: > I do not see where Sharon Scott has been given the authority to > determine how the next Grassroots Radio Conference is to be chosen. She > implies that her decisions were made by a group attending a Zoom meeting > that she held on January 23, but I do not see how anyone who was at that > meeting would say that Sharon was given this authority. I do not see > how anyone who was at the meeting would say that her pronouncements were > endorsed by the people who attended that meeting. > > There was no announcement prior to the meeting to indicate that major > decisions about the future of the GRC would be on the agenda. At the > meeting there was no discussion about what method should be used to > determine how the next GRC should be chosen, and there was almost no > discussion about what criteria should be used to determine when and > where we should have a GRC in 2024. > > In mandating that applications from groups that want to host the next > GRC must be submitted to Sharon prior to her next Zoom meeting (February > 27) she is ensuring that there will be very few submissions. Only > people who have already been preparing to host a GRC will be able to > meet that deadline. At Sharon's meeting Damon Cater mentioned that he > is ready and willing to host a repeat of his 2023 GRC again in 2024. I > have no quarrel with Damon, and having him serve as host for the next > GRC may be the best choice, but there are a multitude of issues and > concerns that should be considered before that decision is made. > > This is just a few considerations off the top or my head that I think we > could discuss: > > Is someone interested in hosing a less expensive GRC? It seems that GRC > 2023 may be the most expensive conference in my memory. > > Would it not be better to hold GRC conferences in a different city each > year? Perhaps we could return to the same city on alternate years. > > How do people who live on the west coast think about having to traveling > such long distances? > > Did anyone find a good alternative to an extended trip in a rental car > from one of the major airports in the area? > > Could presentations be recorded for the benefit of those who are not > able to attend? > > Damon admitted to pocketing a good profit from the GRC (was it 10k on > 35k revenue?) I do not think that is unreasonable, assuming his own > funds were at risk in preparing for the GRC, but someone else might > offer other uses for the proceeds. > > Is the GRC in danger of turning into a professionally managed event like > the NFCB, and what can we do to ensure that it remains an informal > gathering for people who do not have the backing of large institutions > and agencies? > > Does the GRC exist for professionals who earn income from promoting > their services to community broadcasters, or does it exist for the small > community broadcasters to share and offer mutual support? > > Should decisions within the GRC be mandated by a particular person or a > closed group, or do we want decisions to be made by an open process > where all are invited to participate? > > Etc.... > > > As for what went on at the Sharon's January 23 meeting, this would be my > summary: > > The meeting drifted on for what seemed like an hour with mostly small > talk and reiteration of things that most of us already knew. By then > most people had checked out mentally, even if they were still sitting in > front of their computers. After talking about the GRC conferences in > general, Sharon abruptly announced that anyone who wanted to host the > GRC in 2024 would have to submit proposals to her before the next Zoom > meeting February 27. There were a couple of weak attempts to address > the issues and to clarify Sharon's pronouncement, but strong leadership > from the chair kept the pace of the meeting from dwelling on any of > those questions, and the meeting ended soon after that. She said that > her "steering committee" would choose from the proposals that were > submitted, but she did not explain who that would be or how it was to > happen. > > The people who attended the final meeting of the GRC in Rochester may > see a pattern here. > > > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > From treasurer at ksqd.org Mon Feb 12 10:53:36 2024 From: treasurer at ksqd.org (Mathilde Rand) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2024 10:53:36 -0800 Subject: [grc] Grassroots Radio Conference 2024 Directives In-Reply-To: <42d709a03dd71d75eeaa2f53863068b9@artxfm.com> References: <42d709a03dd71d75eeaa2f53863068b9@artxfm.com> Message-ID: Sharon, I, too, am baffled by the apparent attack. In the past few years, I have seen you do nothing but support stations everywhere, be positive about community radio, hardworking, be inclusive, clear, and eloquent. You and the GRC do not deserve this. Mathilde Rand KSQD Santa Cruz On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 10:09?AM Sharon Scott via grc wrote: > Good Morning Everyone, > > Our station, WXOX celebrated 8 years on air with a massive party this > weekend and I was really hoping to have a relaxing Monday morning. I > never expected to wake up to something like this from someone in the > independent radio world I try hard to serve. Ill-informed, misguided > attacks of this nature are a poison to the Grassroots Radio Community we > are trying so hard to build. However, they say any publicity is good > publicity so my only hope is that this unnecessary drama will lead to > more participation with the GRC. Then people can make up their mind for > themselves if we want to move forward together or stay where we are out > here on our own. > > I don't have the time or negative energy to spend dissecting Lloyd's > email which is completely off-base. I appreciate Bennett for doing so - > accurately - in his response. > > Let me briefly address: > > I do not lead the GRC, I simply am the only one who EVER steps up to > host the monthly web-meetings (distinct from today's Radio for People > call which the WXOX on-air schedule always prevents me from attending). > If you review the last GRC Meet-Up, you will hear that my ask for > volunteers to host the next Zoom but was greeted with total silence - as > it is every time. > > Following each meeting, I or another member of the WXOX staff then posts > the discussion to the Virtual GRC YouTube Channel so that folks who > could not make it will have the opportunity to catch it later. We do > this as volunteer work BECAUSE NO ONE ELSE WILL and we feel it is > important that it get done and this community stay connected. Not > because we enjoy it or even have time for it. > > Virtual GRC on YouTube > https://www.youtube.com/virtualgrc > > In fact, now that you mention it, it would be great to have some relief > here. Are any stations interested in hosting the next GRC Monthly > Meet-up via Zoom? As always, it is scheduled for the 4th Tues on the > month at 8 PM which lands on Feb. 27th this time. HOLLA! > > > GRC STEERING COMMITTEE > Neither I nor anybody else has authority in the Grassroots Radio > Conference. It is - and will remain - purposefully de-centralized, > non-commerical, and free of any board or official leadership. Otis has > the perfect saying for it, someone help me remember? .... The trouble > is meetings among community stations separated by many hundreds of miles > aren't going to magically happen. Annual Conferences where station > leaders get together, share ideas and inspiration, aren't going to > appear on their own. There needs to be someone or some group of people > moving it along. We do this is the most hands-off way we possibly can > according to the directive established by attendees at the GRC > Conference in 2011 in Madison, Wisconsin: > > "At the GRC11 in Madison, Wisconsin, conference attendees decided to > create a Steering Committee to help coordinate discussions, assist in > conference planning, and maintain institutional memory. The concept of > the steering committee is in line with the GRC's decentralized, > grassroots nature. Though there is no minimum or maximum number of > members of the steering committee, it was agreed that it should include > representatives from stations who have hosted past GRC conferences, > representatives from future GRC conference hosts, and representatives > from the People of Color caucus." > > In regards to GRC 2024, we have made national calls to this list-serve > and to our social media pages for more GRC Steering Committee > representatives from other host stations. Here it goes again: > > IF YOUR STATION HAS PREVIOUSLY HOSTED A GRC CONFERENCE please contact us > so we can get a representative from your staff involved on the GRC > Steering Committee. The Steering Committee meets online a few times a > year to make calls for host stations, review submissions, and assist the > host station with the conference prep. > > Right now the GRC Steering Committee includes: > > Ted Coe KCSB > Zac Smith KUHS > Max Kelley WAYO > Sharon Scott WXOX > LaGanzie Kale KLEK > Joseph Orozco KIDE > Damon Cater WTSQ > > But to be honest, you can ask WTSQ - the hosts of the 2023 conference - > how much of a role the Steering Committee played in the direction and > organization of their conference. They will tell you practically none. > Once the station steps up to host, aside from handing them a quilt and > some seed money, the Steering Committee remains decidedly hands-off > until they are asked for help -- and at which point we do so by calling > on the greater grassroots radio committee by posting to this listserve, > the social media pages, and whatnot. This hands-off approach allows > each station to build a conference to their liking that reflects the > personality of the station and their location. This is why each GRC > Conference is so different, so exiting, so unique! > > GRC 2024 APPLICATIONS NOW OPEN!!!! > Participants at the January Monthly Meet-Up determined we should go > ahead and open the call for the 2024 GRC Conference Host so that folks > would have time to plan. An application created by the Steering > Committee with very basic information and was circulated to this > list-serve and posted on GRC Social Media. It is NOW OPEN FOR > SUBMISSIONS! We encourage stations to apply by the next GRC meet-up > (Feb. 27th) so that they can make presentations at this February > meet-up. It has not yet been determined when the station selection will > take place. To be honest, in past years, the decision has made itself > because we have only had one applicant. It would be a refreshing change > to have a number of choices! > > So far this year, WTSQ Charleston is the only station that has submitted > an application. The 2023 Conference they hosted in West Virginia was > AMAZING - one of the very best - the entire WTSQ did an outstanding job > making everything just right. For the first time ever, they have > offered to host the conference again now that they have so much > experience under their belt. However, part of the beauty of the GRC is > that it has always been hosted by a different station each year but > right now we don't have any other options and the most important thing > is that the gathering happens. > > If your station would like to host the 2024 Grassroots Radio Conference, > we encourage you get your applications in by Feb. 27th to have a chance > to make your pitch at the next GRC Monthly-Meet Up: > > Grassroots Radio Conference Host Station Application > https://forms.gle/8ntrykYjr5s8piVq8 > > Hope to see you there! > > In Solidarity, > Sharon > > > > *************************** > > Sharon M. Scott > Co-Founder & General Manager > ARTxFM / WXOX 97.1 FM > > P.O. Box 5103 > Louisville, Kentucky 40255 > USA > > 502.640.6414 > > *************************** > > ARTxFM > http://www.artxfm.com > > ************************ > > NEW BOOK: > > LOW POWER FM for DUMMIES > https://www.amazon.com/Low-Power-Dummies-Sharon-Scott/dp/1394185324/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2024-02-12 04:40, Lloyd Ewing via grc wrote: > > I do not see where Sharon Scott has been given the authority to > > determine how the next Grassroots Radio Conference is to be chosen. > > She > > implies that her decisions were made by a group attending a Zoom > > meeting > > that she held on January 23, but I do not see how anyone who was at > > that > > meeting would say that Sharon was given this authority. I do not see > > how anyone who was at the meeting would say that her pronouncements > > were > > endorsed by the people who attended that meeting. > > > > There was no announcement prior to the meeting to indicate that major > > decisions about the future of the GRC would be on the agenda. At the > > meeting there was no discussion about what method should be used to > > determine how the next GRC should be chosen, and there was almost no > > discussion about what criteria should be used to determine when and > > where we should have a GRC in 2024. > > > > In mandating that applications from groups that want to host the next > > GRC must be submitted to Sharon prior to her next Zoom meeting > > (February > > 27) she is ensuring that there will be very few submissions. Only > > people who have already been preparing to host a GRC will be able to > > meet that deadline. At Sharon's meeting Damon Cater mentioned that he > > is ready and willing to host a repeat of his 2023 GRC again in 2024. I > > have no quarrel with Damon, and having him serve as host for the next > > GRC may be the best choice, but there are a multitude of issues and > > concerns that should be considered before that decision is made. > > > > This is just a few considerations off the top or my head that I think > > we > > could discuss: > > > > Is someone interested in hosing a less expensive GRC? It seems that > > GRC > > 2023 may be the most expensive conference in my memory. > > > > Would it not be better to hold GRC conferences in a different city each > > year? Perhaps we could return to the same city on alternate years. > > > > How do people who live on the west coast think about having to > > traveling > > such long distances? > > > > Did anyone find a good alternative to an extended trip in a rental car > > from one of the major airports in the area? > > > > Could presentations be recorded for the benefit of those who are not > > able to attend? > > > > Damon admitted to pocketing a good profit from the GRC (was it 10k on > > 35k revenue?) I do not think that is unreasonable, assuming his own > > funds were at risk in preparing for the GRC, but someone else might > > offer other uses for the proceeds. > > > > Is the GRC in danger of turning into a professionally managed event > > like > > the NFCB, and what can we do to ensure that it remains an informal > > gathering for people who do not have the backing of large institutions > > and agencies? > > > > Does the GRC exist for professionals who earn income from promoting > > their services to community broadcasters, or does it exist for the > > small > > community broadcasters to share and offer mutual support? > > > > Should decisions within the GRC be mandated by a particular person or a > > closed group, or do we want decisions to be made by an open process > > where all are invited to participate? > > > > Etc.... > > > > > > As for what went on at the Sharon's January 23 meeting, this would be > > my > > summary: > > > > The meeting drifted on for what seemed like an hour with mostly small > > talk and reiteration of things that most of us already knew. By then > > most people had checked out mentally, even if they were still sitting > > in > > front of their computers. After talking about the GRC conferences in > > general, Sharon abruptly announced that anyone who wanted to host the > > GRC in 2024 would have to submit proposals to her before the next Zoom > > meeting February 27. There were a couple of weak attempts to address > > the issues and to clarify Sharon's pronouncement, but strong leadership > > from the chair kept the pace of the meeting from dwelling on any of > > those questions, and the meeting ended soon after that. She said that > > her "steering committee" would choose from the proposals that were > > submitted, but she did not explain who that would be or how it was to > > happen. > > > > The people who attended the final meeting of the GRC in Rochester may > > see a pattern here. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > grc mailing list > > grc at maillist.peak.org > > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > From damon at wtsq.org Thu Feb 15 14:23:19 2024 From: damon at wtsq.org (Damon Cater) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2024 17:23:19 -0500 Subject: [grc] Grassroots Radio Conference 2024 Directives In-Reply-To: References: <42d709a03dd71d75eeaa2f53863068b9@artxfm.com> Message-ID: To Lloyd and all others in the GRC list serve, to be certain, I did not, as a person, pocket a single penny from the 2023 GRC. In fact my personal expenses to take this on were probably a few thousand dollars. Proceeds from the event all went to WTSQ including the seed money which is accounted for as a liability for the next GRC. Additionally, I'm sure that everyone involved in planning and building the GRC community welcome any and all constructive ideas in furthering its mission. Cheers! On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 1:53?PM Mathilde Rand via grc wrote: > Sharon, > > I, too, am baffled by the apparent attack. In the past few years, I have > seen you do nothing but support stations everywhere, be positive about > community radio, hardworking, be inclusive, clear, and eloquent. > > You and the GRC do not deserve this. > > Mathilde Rand > KSQD Santa Cruz > > On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 10:09?AM Sharon Scott via grc < > grc at maillist.peak.org> > wrote: > > > Good Morning Everyone, > > > > Our station, WXOX celebrated 8 years on air with a massive party this > > weekend and I was really hoping to have a relaxing Monday morning. I > > never expected to wake up to something like this from someone in the > > independent radio world I try hard to serve. Ill-informed, misguided > > attacks of this nature are a poison to the Grassroots Radio Community we > > are trying so hard to build. However, they say any publicity is good > > publicity so my only hope is that this unnecessary drama will lead to > > more participation with the GRC. Then people can make up their mind for > > themselves if we want to move forward together or stay where we are out > > here on our own. > > > > I don't have the time or negative energy to spend dissecting Lloyd's > > email which is completely off-base. I appreciate Bennett for doing so - > > accurately - in his response. > > > > Let me briefly address: > > > > I do not lead the GRC, I simply am the only one who EVER steps up to > > host the monthly web-meetings (distinct from today's Radio for People > > call which the WXOX on-air schedule always prevents me from attending). > > If you review the last GRC Meet-Up, you will hear that my ask for > > volunteers to host the next Zoom but was greeted with total silence - as > > it is every time. > > > > Following each meeting, I or another member of the WXOX staff then posts > > the discussion to the Virtual GRC YouTube Channel so that folks who > > could not make it will have the opportunity to catch it later. We do > > this as volunteer work BECAUSE NO ONE ELSE WILL and we feel it is > > important that it get done and this community stay connected. Not > > because we enjoy it or even have time for it. > > > > Virtual GRC on YouTube > > https://www.youtube.com/virtualgrc > > > > In fact, now that you mention it, it would be great to have some relief > > here. Are any stations interested in hosting the next GRC Monthly > > Meet-up via Zoom? As always, it is scheduled for the 4th Tues on the > > month at 8 PM which lands on Feb. 27th this time. HOLLA! > > > > > > GRC STEERING COMMITTEE > > Neither I nor anybody else has authority in the Grassroots Radio > > Conference. It is - and will remain - purposefully de-centralized, > > non-commerical, and free of any board or official leadership. Otis has > > the perfect saying for it, someone help me remember? .... The trouble > > is meetings among community stations separated by many hundreds of miles > > aren't going to magically happen. Annual Conferences where station > > leaders get together, share ideas and inspiration, aren't going to > > appear on their own. There needs to be someone or some group of people > > moving it along. We do this is the most hands-off way we possibly can > > according to the directive established by attendees at the GRC > > Conference in 2011 in Madison, Wisconsin: > > > > "At the GRC11 in Madison, Wisconsin, conference attendees decided to > > create a Steering Committee to help coordinate discussions, assist in > > conference planning, and maintain institutional memory. The concept of > > the steering committee is in line with the GRC's decentralized, > > grassroots nature. Though there is no minimum or maximum number of > > members of the steering committee, it was agreed that it should include > > representatives from stations who have hosted past GRC conferences, > > representatives from future GRC conference hosts, and representatives > > from the People of Color caucus." > > > > In regards to GRC 2024, we have made national calls to this list-serve > > and to our social media pages for more GRC Steering Committee > > representatives from other host stations. Here it goes again: > > > > IF YOUR STATION HAS PREVIOUSLY HOSTED A GRC CONFERENCE please contact us > > so we can get a representative from your staff involved on the GRC > > Steering Committee. The Steering Committee meets online a few times a > > year to make calls for host stations, review submissions, and assist the > > host station with the conference prep. > > > > Right now the GRC Steering Committee includes: > > > > Ted Coe KCSB > > Zac Smith KUHS > > Max Kelley WAYO > > Sharon Scott WXOX > > LaGanzie Kale KLEK > > Joseph Orozco KIDE > > Damon Cater WTSQ > > > > But to be honest, you can ask WTSQ - the hosts of the 2023 conference - > > how much of a role the Steering Committee played in the direction and > > organization of their conference. They will tell you practically none. > > Once the station steps up to host, aside from handing them a quilt and > > some seed money, the Steering Committee remains decidedly hands-off > > until they are asked for help -- and at which point we do so by calling > > on the greater grassroots radio committee by posting to this listserve, > > the social media pages, and whatnot. This hands-off approach allows > > each station to build a conference to their liking that reflects the > > personality of the station and their location. This is why each GRC > > Conference is so different, so exiting, so unique! > > > > GRC 2024 APPLICATIONS NOW OPEN!!!! > > Participants at the January Monthly Meet-Up determined we should go > > ahead and open the call for the 2024 GRC Conference Host so that folks > > would have time to plan. An application created by the Steering > > Committee with very basic information and was circulated to this > > list-serve and posted on GRC Social Media. It is NOW OPEN FOR > > SUBMISSIONS! We encourage stations to apply by the next GRC meet-up > > (Feb. 27th) so that they can make presentations at this February > > meet-up. It has not yet been determined when the station selection will > > take place. To be honest, in past years, the decision has made itself > > because we have only had one applicant. It would be a refreshing change > > to have a number of choices! > > > > So far this year, WTSQ Charleston is the only station that has submitted > > an application. The 2023 Conference they hosted in West Virginia was > > AMAZING - one of the very best - the entire WTSQ did an outstanding job > > making everything just right. For the first time ever, they have > > offered to host the conference again now that they have so much > > experience under their belt. However, part of the beauty of the GRC is > > that it has always been hosted by a different station each year but > > right now we don't have any other options and the most important thing > > is that the gathering happens. > > > > If your station would like to host the 2024 Grassroots Radio Conference, > > we encourage you get your applications in by Feb. 27th to have a chance > > to make your pitch at the next GRC Monthly-Meet Up: > > > > Grassroots Radio Conference Host Station Application > > https://forms.gle/8ntrykYjr5s8piVq8 > > > > Hope to see you there! > > > > In Solidarity, > > Sharon > > > > > > > > *************************** > > > > Sharon M. Scott > > Co-Founder & General Manager > > ARTxFM / WXOX 97.1 FM > > > > P.O. Box 5103 > > Louisville, Kentucky 40255 > > USA > > > > 502.640.6414 > > > > *************************** > > > > ARTxFM > > http://www.artxfm.com > > > > ************************ > > > > NEW BOOK: > > > > LOW POWER FM for DUMMIES > > https://www.amazon.com/Low-Power-Dummies-Sharon-Scott/dp/1394185324/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2024-02-12 04:40, Lloyd Ewing via grc wrote: > > > I do not see where Sharon Scott has been given the authority to > > > determine how the next Grassroots Radio Conference is to be chosen. > > > She > > > implies that her decisions were made by a group attending a Zoom > > > meeting > > > that she held on January 23, but I do not see how anyone who was at > > > that > > > meeting would say that Sharon was given this authority. I do not see > > > how anyone who was at the meeting would say that her pronouncements > > > were > > > endorsed by the people who attended that meeting. > > > > > > There was no announcement prior to the meeting to indicate that major > > > decisions about the future of the GRC would be on the agenda. At the > > > meeting there was no discussion about what method should be used to > > > determine how the next GRC should be chosen, and there was almost no > > > discussion about what criteria should be used to determine when and > > > where we should have a GRC in 2024. > > > > > > In mandating that applications from groups that want to host the next > > > GRC must be submitted to Sharon prior to her next Zoom meeting > > > (February > > > 27) she is ensuring that there will be very few submissions. Only > > > people who have already been preparing to host a GRC will be able to > > > meet that deadline. At Sharon's meeting Damon Cater mentioned that he > > > is ready and willing to host a repeat of his 2023 GRC again in 2024. I > > > have no quarrel with Damon, and having him serve as host for the next > > > GRC may be the best choice, but there are a multitude of issues and > > > concerns that should be considered before that decision is made. > > > > > > This is just a few considerations off the top or my head that I think > > > we > > > could discuss: > > > > > > Is someone interested in hosing a less expensive GRC? It seems that > > > GRC > > > 2023 may be the most expensive conference in my memory. > > > > > > Would it not be better to hold GRC conferences in a different city each > > > year? Perhaps we could return to the same city on alternate years. > > > > > > How do people who live on the west coast think about having to > > > traveling > > > such long distances? > > > > > > Did anyone find a good alternative to an extended trip in a rental car > > > from one of the major airports in the area? > > > > > > Could presentations be recorded for the benefit of those who are not > > > able to attend? > > > > > > Damon admitted to pocketing a good profit from the GRC (was it 10k on > > > 35k revenue?) I do not think that is unreasonable, assuming his own > > > funds were at risk in preparing for the GRC, but someone else might > > > offer other uses for the proceeds. > > > > > > Is the GRC in danger of turning into a professionally managed event > > > like > > > the NFCB, and what can we do to ensure that it remains an informal > > > gathering for people who do not have the backing of large institutions > > > and agencies? > > > > > > Does the GRC exist for professionals who earn income from promoting > > > their services to community broadcasters, or does it exist for the > > > small > > > community broadcasters to share and offer mutual support? > > > > > > Should decisions within the GRC be mandated by a particular person or a > > > closed group, or do we want decisions to be made by an open process > > > where all are invited to participate? > > > > > > Etc.... > > > > > > > > > As for what went on at the Sharon's January 23 meeting, this would be > > > my > > > summary: > > > > > > The meeting drifted on for what seemed like an hour with mostly small > > > talk and reiteration of things that most of us already knew. By then > > > most people had checked out mentally, even if they were still sitting > > > in > > > front of their computers. After talking about the GRC conferences in > > > general, Sharon abruptly announced that anyone who wanted to host the > > > GRC in 2024 would have to submit proposals to her before the next Zoom > > > meeting February 27. There were a couple of weak attempts to address > > > the issues and to clarify Sharon's pronouncement, but strong leadership > > > from the chair kept the pace of the meeting from dwelling on any of > > > those questions, and the meeting ended soon after that. She said that > > > her "steering committee" would choose from the proposals that were > > > submitted, but she did not explain who that would be or how it was to > > > happen. > > > > > > The people who attended the final meeting of the GRC in Rochester may > > > see a pattern here. > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > grc mailing list > > > grc at maillist.peak.org > > > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > > _______________________________________________ > > grc mailing list > > grc at maillist.peak.org > > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > > > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > -- *-Damon Cater* President WTSQ 88.1 FM - *The Status Quo* 304-678-4159 <304-610-5666> wtsq.org From mschristinamarie at netzero.net Fri Feb 16 23:26:37 2024 From: mschristinamarie at netzero.net (Christina Aanestad) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2024 23:26:37 -0800 Subject: [grc] Help Repair the Home of Pacifica Radio's Gaza Correspondent Message-ID: Thanks for the help in spreading the word, and any financial contribution you can help make for Rami Almeghari. https://gofund.me/4bd74794 Christina From jama at asis.com Sat Feb 17 13:00:17 2024 From: jama at asis.com (Jama) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2024 13:00:17 -0800 Subject: [grc] Help Repair the Home of Pacifica Radio's Gaza Correspondent In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <543C857F-B686-4F30-B182-02687BA522F9@asis.com> Thank you so much for organizing the GoFundMe, Christina, for our community radio brother who?s done so much dynamic reporting. By Wednesday I?ll be able to contribute. I dug up a photo of Rami from the internet. Jama KMUD, Garberville > On Feb 16, 2024, at 11:26 PM, Christina Aanestad via grc wrote: > > Thanks for the help in spreading the word, and any financial contribution you can help make for Rami Almeghari. > https://gofund.me/4bd74794 > Christina > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > From evan at kgnu.org Mon Feb 19 07:00:00 2024 From: evan at kgnu.org (Evan Perkins) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2024 08:00:00 -0700 Subject: [grc] KGNU Radio in Boulder CO seeks a Membership Coordinator Message-ID: *Ready to make a difference in the community? Join the KGNU team as our Membership Coordinator!* The *KGNU Membership Coordinator* forms a key member of our development team, serving under the general supervision of the Community Development Director, and works with a small paid staff and more than 300 volunteers, the Membership Coordinator is responsible for coordinating and implementing the activities of the Membership Department, which provides 60-70 percent of the station?s annual operating income. The Membership Coordinator focuses on membership cultivation, growth, and retention, identifying prospects for new member acquisition to meet annual revenue goals for the membership program, and assists with providing data-based analysis and proposals for the strategic growth of the membership program. The Membership Coordinator is in constant communication with KGNU?s members, donors, and listeners, cultivating a robust member and donor base and helping to sustain our operational budget. *See the Full Job Description and Details on How to Apply: KGNU SEEKS A MEMBERSHIP COORDINATOR *(PDF) *Applications submitted by March 8, 2024, will be given priority for review.* -- I have the honor to be Your Obedient Servant, Evan Perkins Operations Director KGNU Community Radio 4700 Walnut St. Boulder, CO 80301-2548 303.449.4885 ext.104 88.5 FM / 1390 AM Boulder + Denver 93.7 FM Nederland + 98.7 FM Fort Collins + 99.1 FM Denver KGNU.org Twitter + Facebook + Instagram + YouTube From gm at artxfm.com Mon Feb 19 08:47:44 2024 From: gm at artxfm.com (Sharon Scott) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2024 11:47:44 -0500 Subject: [grc] ATTN: Previous GRC Host Stations: Nominate your GRC Steering Committee Reps TODAY! Message-ID: <8da664d83914172ff4fa091fe958bcb2@artxfm.com> CALLING ALL GRC HOST STATIONS!!!! SEEKING GRC STEERING COMMITTEE NOMINEES At the GRC11 in Madison, Wisconsin, conference attendees decided to "create a steering committee to help coordinate discussions, assist in conference planning, and maintain institutional memory. The concept of the steering committee is in line with the GRC's decentralized, grassroots nature. Though there is no minimum or maximum number of members of the steering committee, it was agreed that it should include representatives from stations who have hosted past GRC conferences, representatives from future GRC conference hosts, and representatives from the People of Color caucus." We are now SEEKING REPRESENTATIVES FOR THE GRC STEERING COMMITTEE. This is an important, yet low commitment, group of individuals selected by previous host stations to ensure the future, independence, and station-driven identity of the Grassroots Radio Conference. These station reps determine future GRC locations and ensure that the quilt and the seed money gets transferred from one station to the next each year. After that they provide assistance to host stations, as requested, but will mostly facilitate the host station's ability to run the conference independently, as best they see fit. GRC Steering Committee Application: https://forms.gle/USdg3aNufcGT9C1j8 PREVIOUS GRC Host Stations: KGNU WERU WORT WJFF KZMU KCSB WXOJ WORT WUML KBOO KMUD KKFI WRFU KHOI WLPP KUHS WCAA KBOO WXIR WAYO WELP WXOX WTSQ FUTURE GRC Host Stations: Reply if interested, applications available! PEOPLE OF COLOR CAUCUS We are also seeing representatives to build the People of Color Caucus - Reps. also must be a staff member at a community radio station but they do not have to be from a station that has previously hosted the conference. If you are interested in helping us amplify unheard voices and unite Grassroots Radio Stations across the nation, this is an excellent way to do it and we would LOVE to have your participation! Please nominate your station representative today! GRC Steering Committee Application: https://forms.gle/USdg3aNufcGT9C1j8 We'd love to have some MASS SYNERGY from America's Community Radio Stations on this! Please reach out and get involved!!! Sincerely, The GRC Steering Committee Sharon Scott WXOX Zac Smith KUHS Max Kelley WAYO LaGanzie Kale KLEK Joseph Orozco KIDE Damon Cater WTSQ Ted Coe KCSB From news at kpfa.org Fri Feb 16 23:20:56 2024 From: news at kpfa.org (KPFA News Department) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2024 23:20:56 -0800 Subject: [grc] Fwd: Go Fund Me for Rami, Pacifica Radio's Gaza Correspondent In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks for the help in spreading the word. https://gofund.me/4bd74794 Christina Aanestad News Co-Director Morning Anchor, Editor KPFA Radio 94.1FM www.kpfa.org CWA Union Strong From ad253 at freeelectron.net Mon Feb 19 14:40:40 2024 From: ad253 at freeelectron.net (al davis) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2024 17:40:40 -0500 Subject: [grc] ATTN: Previous GRC Host Stations: Nominate your GRC Steering Committee Reps TODAY! In-Reply-To: <8da664d83914172ff4fa091fe958bcb2@artxfm.com> References: <8da664d83914172ff4fa091fe958bcb2@artxfm.com> Message-ID: <20240219174040.01cdc055@z> On Mon, 19 Feb 2024 11:47:44 -0500 Sharon Scott via grc wrote: > CALLING ALL GRC HOST STATIONS!!!! SEEKING GRC STEERING COMMITTEE > NOMINEES > > At the GRC11 in Madison, Wisconsin, conference attendees decided to > "create a steering committee to help coordinate discussions, assist in Then at every GRC after that, it was "decided" again to NOT do any formal organization, essentially repealing the so-called "vote" to formalize at Madison, which nobody remembers anyway. A formal steering committee is an incredibly bad idea. From gm at artxfm.com Mon Feb 19 15:18:49 2024 From: gm at artxfm.com (Sharon Scott) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2024 18:18:49 -0500 Subject: [grc] ATTN: Previous GRC Host Stations: Nominate your GRC Steering Committee Reps TODAY! In-Reply-To: <20240219174040.01cdc055@z> References: <8da664d83914172ff4fa091fe958bcb2@artxfm.com> <20240219174040.01cdc055@z> Message-ID: <912c8dcadcd1525a8d776b47a3def618@artxfm.com> The Steering Committee is NOT a formal organization. We are not incorporated nor do we intend to be. There is no hierarchy or anything of the nature. It is an informal collective of representatives from previous stations. It is the reason this year's conference and the monthly meet-ups since have happened for the past four years. The Steering Committee has been in existence since the vote among conference participants at Madison 2011 but at times more active than others. Its effectiveness entirely depends on the station participation which is why we are trying to recruit representatives. I have been to every conference except one since Madison and I have never heard that the vote was recalled. If you have evidence of this, please forward. There is no reason that having the stations who have hosted the conference before decide where it will go next is a a bad idea. In fact, it seems to be the safest way to keep it free and independent when there are so many power-hungry individuals in the world of radio. What is a bad idea is allowing independent consultants to take over the conference and incorporate as an organization with themselves as the leaders. This group serves as a safe-guard against that. It keeps the GRC Conference safely within the hands of the stations themselves. where it belongs. Who are you AL ? On 2024-02-19 17:40, al davis via grc wrote: > On Mon, 19 Feb 2024 11:47:44 -0500 > Sharon Scott via grc wrote: >> CALLING ALL GRC HOST STATIONS!!!! SEEKING GRC STEERING COMMITTEE >> NOMINEES >> >> At the GRC11 in Madison, Wisconsin, conference attendees decided to >> "create a steering committee to help coordinate discussions, assist in > > > Then at every GRC after that, it was "decided" again to NOT do any > formal organization, essentially repealing the so-called "vote" to > formalize at Madison, which nobody remembers anyway. > > A formal steering committee is an incredibly bad idea. > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc From mae at recnet.com Mon Feb 19 15:52:06 2024 From: mae at recnet.com (Michelle Bradley) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2024 18:52:06 -0500 Subject: [grc] ATTN: Previous GRC Host Stations: Nominate your GRC Steering Committee Reps TODAY! In-Reply-To: <20240219174040.01cdc055@z> References: <8da664d83914172ff4fa091fe958bcb2@artxfm.com> <20240219174040.01cdc055@z> Message-ID: <4c625487-618e-482e-aed1-cdbe636e97dd@recnet.com> I agree in part with Al on this, we do not need a "steering committee" as suggested in the past.? This roller coaster over GRC governance continues to teeter totter because of the massive clash between "traditionalists" and "progressives" where it comes to the question of the GRC. (footnote: "progressives" as in those who want to see progress at the GRC, which allows for updating and creating new traditions).. I do feel that the Sharon Scott vision for a "steering committee" is a slightly misguided and is extremely exclusionary.? While those who have hosted GRCs in the past are a great resource for information in order to avoid some of the "lessons learned" that have happened at past conferences, it does exclude out many other subject matter experts in the fields of event planning and knowledge of the current broadcasting landscape.? This turns the GRC into an exclusive club with a secret handshake while excluding out other grassroots radio stakeholders. I do agree that we need to move away from the term "steering committee" as that leaves a bad taste in the mouths of those who are more traditionalist and rightfully so. I have witnessed the power struggles and politics where it comes to organizing this thing and what results is a hastily planned event.? However, sometimes, even when hastily planned, we do get a winner... Charleston.? I would suggest that we have instead, a "site selection committee", which is limited solely to the discussion of site selection based on the potential hosts who bid.? Such a committee has no ability to "steer" the GRC in any way other than to which city the event will be held at.? Such a "site selection committee" should not be discriminatory nor exclusive to only the club members who have been initiated with the secret handshake. It's important to realize that for some in our community, some places are off limits.? Places like Florida and Texas are good examples as a result of the tyrant governments there that oppress women, minorities and the LGBT.? There are places in the south that will detain and arrest you for using the wrong bathroom. There are places where you will be more likely to be detained or profile because of the color of your skin or your accent.? Those economies do not deserve our support until they get their acts together.? A more well rounded selection committee with a public outreach can best work out those concerns. Honestly, right now, we should be planning the site for the 2025 GRC, not the 2024.? While I do not feel that Charleston is the best site from some perspectives, such as travel access and accessibility for participants with disabilities, the people there have fresh experience and a willingness to do this again.? I will support a redux in Charleston as an "extension" of the 2023 show, but overall, we need to be looking for a 2025 site, right now.? We should be able to announce the 2025 site on the last day of the 2024 conference. One thing we need to do is review the data to determine the locations of the 2023 Window LPFM stations that would be more likely to attend a GRC (those in REC's segment 300 series [new secular organizations] and 400 series [existing secular cause-based organizations]).? I think that somewhere like West Virginia, while it does have some issues, do not have discriminatory laws like the southern states do, but I think it is within roadtrip distance to many stations and with airline access via ORD, CLT, DCA and ATL, most of the country is a single connection airline flight away. We need to attract new people to the GRC, but in order to do that, we need to adapt to changing times.? We need to be progressive while respecting traditions that have not been made obsolete by technology, the marketplace or political climate.? These conferences need to be welcoming, informative, affordable, accessible, inclusive and worth someone's time to take out of their schedule to travel.? Nobody wants GRC to turn into NFCB Jr., but at the same time, people's expectations are changing as our society evolves (especially those who are coming into community radio that have no experience with the 1990s community radio model).? We need to be open to progress, but we need to progress slowly where we are not selling out to corporate. Sharon has stepped up at a time when no one else has. That must be recognized and commended.? But at the same time, Sharon and WXOX do not own the GRC.. neither does REC, Prometheus, Common Frequency, Pacifica nor NFCB..? Instead, it is a cooperative movement that everyone who is willing to step up needs to have that opportunity to be heard and be involved, not just the secret handshake singing koom-ba-yah by the campfire. I respect Sharon's leadership in trying to salvage the GRC in 2023 and I will support her playing a significant role in the 2024 and 2025 planning.. but it can't be Sharon calling all of the shots, like the impression that some folks (including myself) have seen here.? I respect Sharon for planting the seed to keep this topic fresh but it is up to all of us to collectively make these decisions, not just the private club. We are all in this together. -- *Michelle Bradley, CBT, KU3N* /Founder: REC Networks/ +1 202 621-2355 https://recnet.com facebook.com/recnet - Twitter: @michichan On 2/19/2024 5:40 PM, al davis via grc wrote: > On Mon, 19 Feb 2024 11:47:44 -0500 > Sharon Scott via grc wrote: >> CALLING ALL GRC HOST STATIONS!!!! SEEKING GRC STEERING COMMITTEE >> NOMINEES >> >> At the GRC11 in Madison, Wisconsin, conference attendees decided to >> "create a steering committee to help coordinate discussions, assist in > > Then at every GRC after that, it was "decided" again to NOT do any > formal organization, essentially repealing the so-called "vote" to > formalize at Madison, which nobody remembers anyway. > > A formal steering committee is an incredibly bad idea. > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc From kenyalewis at gmail.com Mon Feb 19 17:35:22 2024 From: kenyalewis at gmail.com (kenya lewis) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2024 17:35:22 -0800 Subject: [grc] ATTN: Previous GRC Host Stations: Nominate your GRC Steering Committee Reps TODAY! In-Reply-To: <4c625487-618e-482e-aed1-cdbe636e97dd@recnet.com> References: <4c625487-618e-482e-aed1-cdbe636e97dd@recnet.com> Message-ID: I have a few thoughts: + Seems to me that people who have not hosted, and have always, historically?had a say in GRC is also exclusionary + Host stations have a specifically informed lens that is valuable to guide future hosts, perhaps semantics is an issue with the name of the committee + It seems that poking holes w/o offering viable alternatives is deleterious + The past few GRCs, run with Sharon, seem to have been successful; to quote Alvin Toffler ?Change is not merely necessary to life?it is life.? ?To improve is to change. To perfect is to change often.? + There needs to be some kind of organizational structure that timeboxes key decisions so the conference can be announced with sufficient lead time so the event is not exclusive to those who have experienced it coming together last minute + I?m Black. I travel to Texas and other places that can be dangerous b/c of my race. I was at Afrotech in Austin the past two years w/o incident. Went to Lockhart both times and me and my LGBTQ friends were treated kindly. At GRC in Little Rock I took a cab to a BBQ spot and the driver was a self-professed White supremacist with a scary Juggalo clown mask. He said he and his kid did flash mobs that happened to scare Black people. He said I was nice and should not be scared, then explained The Curse of Ham or some broken logic bullshit. Said it wasn?t my fault my race was curse. To quote Donald Glover, ?This is America?. I still loved GRC Little Rock and the wins outweighed this experience. I also enjoyed CBI in Orlando, as much as it is possible to enjoy Orlando. + Where we may agree: 2025 should be announced early; eroding any infrastructure to keep making progress in this regard seems wrong-headed; Maybe the good logic is to let 2024 run to cure schedule and see if the people who have input on what?s wrong can draft a plan for 2025? Kenya > On Feb 19, 2024, at 3:52?PM, Michelle Bradley via grc wrote: > > ?I agree in part with Al on this, we do not need a "steering committee" as suggested in the past. This roller coaster over GRC governance continues to teeter totter because of the massive clash between "traditionalists" and "progressives" where it comes to the question of the GRC. (footnote: "progressives" as in those who want to see progress at the GRC, which allows for updating and creating new traditions).. > > I do feel that the Sharon Scott vision for a "steering committee" is a slightly misguided and is extremely exclusionary. While those who have hosted GRCs in the past are a great resource for information in order to avoid some of the "lessons learned" that have happened at past conferences, it does exclude out many other subject matter experts in the fields of event planning and knowledge of the current broadcasting landscape. This turns the GRC into an exclusive club with a secret handshake while excluding out other grassroots radio stakeholders. > > I do agree that we need to move away from the term "steering committee" as that leaves a bad taste in the mouths of those who are more traditionalist and rightfully so. I have witnessed the power struggles and politics where it comes to organizing this thing and what results is a hastily planned event. However, sometimes, even when hastily planned, we do get a winner... Charleston. I would suggest that we have instead, a "site selection committee", which is limited solely to the discussion of site selection based on the potential hosts who bid. Such a committee has no ability to "steer" the GRC in any way other than to which city the event will be held at. Such a "site selection committee" should not be discriminatory nor exclusive to only the club members who have been initiated with the secret handshake. > > It's important to realize that for some in our community, some places are off limits. Places like Florida and Texas are good examples as a result of the tyrant governments there that oppress women, minorities and the LGBT. There are places in the south that will detain and arrest you for using the wrong bathroom. There are places where you will be more likely to be detained or profile because of the color of your skin or your accent. Those economies do not deserve our support until they get their acts together. A more well rounded selection committee with a public outreach can best work out those concerns. > > Honestly, right now, we should be planning the site for the 2025 GRC, not the 2024. While I do not feel that Charleston is the best site from some perspectives, such as travel access and accessibility for participants with disabilities, the people there have fresh experience and a willingness to do this again. I will support a redux in Charleston as an "extension" of the 2023 show, but overall, we need to be looking for a 2025 site, right now. We should be able to announce the 2025 site on the last day of the 2024 conference. > > One thing we need to do is review the data to determine the locations of the 2023 Window LPFM stations that would be more likely to attend a GRC (those in REC's segment 300 series [new secular organizations] and 400 series [existing secular cause-based organizations]). I think that somewhere like West Virginia, while it does have some issues, do not have discriminatory laws like the southern states do, but I think it is within roadtrip distance to many stations and with airline access via ORD, CLT, DCA and ATL, most of the country is a single connection airline flight away. > > We need to attract new people to the GRC, but in order to do that, we need to adapt to changing times. We need to be progressive while respecting traditions that have not been made obsolete by technology, the marketplace or political climate. These conferences need to be welcoming, informative, affordable, accessible, inclusive and worth someone's time to take out of their schedule to travel. Nobody wants GRC to turn into NFCB Jr., but at the same time, people's expectations are changing as our society evolves (especially those who are coming into community radio that have no experience with the 1990s community radio model). We need to be open to progress, but we need to progress slowly where we are not selling out to corporate. > > Sharon has stepped up at a time when no one else has. That must be recognized and commended. But at the same time, Sharon and WXOX do not own the GRC.. neither does REC, Prometheus, Common Frequency, Pacifica nor NFCB.. Instead, it is a cooperative movement that everyone who is willing to step up needs to have that opportunity to be heard and be involved, not just the secret handshake singing koom-ba-yah by the campfire. > > I respect Sharon's leadership in trying to salvage the GRC in 2023 and I will support her playing a significant role in the 2024 and 2025 planning.. but it can't be Sharon calling all of the shots, like the impression that some folks (including myself) have seen here. I respect Sharon for planting the seed to keep this topic fresh but it is up to all of us to collectively make these decisions, not just the private club. > > We are all in this together. > > -- > *Michelle Bradley, CBT, KU3N* > /Founder: REC Networks/ > +1 202 621-2355 > https://recnet.com > facebook.com/recnet - Twitter: @michichan > >> On 2/19/2024 5:40 PM, al davis via grc wrote: >>> On Mon, 19 Feb 2024 11:47:44 -0500 >>> Sharon Scott via grc wrote: >>> CALLING ALL GRC HOST STATIONS!!!! SEEKING GRC STEERING COMMITTEE >>> NOMINEES >>> >>> At the GRC11 in Madison, Wisconsin, conference attendees decided to >>> "create a steering committee to help coordinate discussions, assist in >> >> Then at every GRC after that, it was "decided" again to NOT do any >> formal organization, essentially repealing the so-called "vote" to >> formalize at Madison, which nobody remembers anyway. >> >> A formal steering committee is an incredibly bad idea. >> _______________________________________________ >> grc mailing list >> grc at maillist.peak.org >> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc From betty at c-map.org Mon Feb 19 17:55:16 2024 From: betty at c-map.org (Betty J. McArdle) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2024 17:55:16 -0800 Subject: [grc] ATTN: Previous GRC Host Stations: Nominate your GRC Steering Committee Reps TODAY! In-Reply-To: <4c625487-618e-482e-aed1-cdbe636e97dd@recnet.com> References: <8da664d83914172ff4fa091fe958bcb2@artxfm.com> <20240219174040.01cdc055@z> <4c625487-618e-482e-aed1-cdbe636e97dd@recnet.com> Message-ID: <001701da639f$dd0e6930$972b3b90$@c-map.org> Hi All, I have read Sharon's call for station's to nominate a representative for their station to participate in the "Steering Committee", or whatever name we all agree on, and find that there is not language saying that the representative must be a staff member of the previous host station. I have requested that KBOO nominate me to represent the station. I was co-chair of the committee that put on the 2018 GRC in Portland. I am a member and volunteer at KBOO but not on staff. I believe that with my experience from that GRC I have a lot to contribute to 1) selecting a station/city for future GRCs and 2) am able and willing to help future host stations. There have been many things said by various people regarding this issue. I welcome the discussion. It should help to keep the GRC strong. Thank you all, Betty McArdle Community Media Assistance Project (CMAP) -----Original Message----- From: grc On Behalf Of Michelle Bradley via grc Sent: Monday, February 19, 2024 3:52 PM To: grc at maillist.peak.org Subject: Re: [grc] ATTN: Previous GRC Host Stations: Nominate your GRC Steering Committee Reps TODAY! I agree in part with Al on this, we do not need a "steering committee" as suggested in the past. This roller coaster over GRC governance continues to teeter totter because of the massive clash between "traditionalists" and "progressives" where it comes to the question of the GRC. (footnote: "progressives" as in those who want to see progress at the GRC, which allows for updating and creating new traditions).. I do feel that the Sharon Scott vision for a "steering committee" is a slightly misguided and is extremely exclusionary. While those who have hosted GRCs in the past are a great resource for information in order to avoid some of the "lessons learned" that have happened at past conferences, it does exclude out many other subject matter experts in the fields of event planning and knowledge of the current broadcasting landscape. This turns the GRC into an exclusive club with a secret handshake while excluding out other grassroots radio stakeholders. I do agree that we need to move away from the term "steering committee" as that leaves a bad taste in the mouths of those who are more traditionalist and rightfully so. I have witnessed the power struggles and politics where it comes to organizing this thing and what results is a hastily planned event. However, sometimes, even when hastily planned, we do get a winner... Charleston. I would suggest that we have instead, a "site selection committee", which is limited solely to the discussion of site selection based on the potential hosts who bid. Such a committee has no ability to "steer" the GRC in any way other than to which city the event will be held at. Such a "site selection committee" should not be discriminatory nor exclusive to only the club members who have been initiated with the secret handshake. It's important to realize that for some in our community, some places are off limits. Places like Florida and Texas are good examples as a result of the tyrant governments there that oppress women, minorities and the LGBT. There are places in the south that will detain and arrest you for using the wrong bathroom. There are places where you will be more likely to be detained or profile because of the color of your skin or your accent. Those economies do not deserve our support until they get their acts together. A more well rounded selection committee with a public outreach can best work out those concerns. Honestly, right now, we should be planning the site for the 2025 GRC, not the 2024. While I do not feel that Charleston is the best site from some perspectives, such as travel access and accessibility for participants with disabilities, the people there have fresh experience and a willingness to do this again. I will support a redux in Charleston as an "extension" of the 2023 show, but overall, we need to be looking for a 2025 site, right now. We should be able to announce the 2025 site on the last day of the 2024 conference. One thing we need to do is review the data to determine the locations of the 2023 Window LPFM stations that would be more likely to attend a GRC (those in REC's segment 300 series [new secular organizations] and 400 series [existing secular cause-based organizations]). I think that somewhere like West Virginia, while it does have some issues, do not have discriminatory laws like the southern states do, but I think it is within roadtrip distance to many stations and with airline access via ORD, CLT, DCA and ATL, most of the country is a single connection airline flight away. We need to attract new people to the GRC, but in order to do that, we need to adapt to changing times. We need to be progressive while respecting traditions that have not been made obsolete by technology, the marketplace or political climate. These conferences need to be welcoming, informative, affordable, accessible, inclusive and worth someone's time to take out of their schedule to travel. Nobody wants GRC to turn into NFCB Jr., but at the same time, people's expectations are changing as our society evolves (especially those who are coming into community radio that have no experience with the 1990s community radio model). We need to be open to progress, but we need to progress slowly where we are not selling out to corporate. Sharon has stepped up at a time when no one else has. That must be recognized and commended. But at the same time, Sharon and WXOX do not own the GRC.. neither does REC, Prometheus, Common Frequency, Pacifica nor NFCB.. Instead, it is a cooperative movement that everyone who is willing to step up needs to have that opportunity to be heard and be involved, not just the secret handshake singing koom-ba-yah by the campfire. I respect Sharon's leadership in trying to salvage the GRC in 2023 and I will support her playing a significant role in the 2024 and 2025 planning.. but it can't be Sharon calling all of the shots, like the impression that some folks (including myself) have seen here. I respect Sharon for planting the seed to keep this topic fresh but it is up to all of us to collectively make these decisions, not just the private club. We are all in this together. -- *Michelle Bradley, CBT, KU3N* /Founder: REC Networks/ +1 202 621-2355 https://recnet.com facebook.com/recnet - Twitter: @michichan On 2/19/2024 5:40 PM, al davis via grc wrote: > On Mon, 19 Feb 2024 11:47:44 -0500 > Sharon Scott via grc wrote: >> CALLING ALL GRC HOST STATIONS!!!! SEEKING GRC STEERING COMMITTEE >> NOMINEES >> >> At the GRC11 in Madison, Wisconsin, conference attendees decided to >> "create a steering committee to help coordinate discussions, assist >> in > > Then at every GRC after that, it was "decided" again to NOT do any > formal organization, essentially repealing the so-called "vote" to > formalize at Madison, which nobody remembers anyway. > > A formal steering committee is an incredibly bad idea. > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc _______________________________________________ grc mailing list grc at maillist.peak.org http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc From gm at artxfm.com Mon Feb 19 17:59:36 2024 From: gm at artxfm.com (Sharon Scott) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2024 20:59:36 -0500 Subject: [grc] ATTN: Previous GRC Host Stations: Nominate your GRC Steering Committee Reps TODAY! In-Reply-To: <4c625487-618e-482e-aed1-cdbe636e97dd@recnet.com> References: <8da664d83914172ff4fa091fe958bcb2@artxfm.com> <20240219174040.01cdc055@z> <4c625487-618e-482e-aed1-cdbe636e97dd@recnet.com> Message-ID: This discussion, along with the personal attacks on this listserve have got to stop now. The GRC Steering Committee was established by vote by the Madison GRC participants and we are upholding that mandate. As informal as we are, the GRC Steering Committee is an active and productive group that put a lot of work into revitalizing the conference this year. We are also responsible for establishing and maintaining the monthly meet-ups which are now and will always be hosted by community radio stations, not their paid advisors or consultants. We are currently calling for REPRESENTATIVES FROM PREVIOUS GRC HOST STATIONS to serve on the informal GRC Steering Committee. That is it. We are not calling for further discussion of our existence. The Madison vote is enough. The stations who have put in the work to host conferences get little rewards and selecting a staff representative for the Steering Committee is one of them. If anyone wants to talk "exclusionary" should be reminded of the GRC KBOO Conference when a group of consultants, including Betty and Michelle and others who have commented on this tread and called me a "dictator" attempted to take hold of the GRC Conference, placing themselves at the helm and effectively excluding the true stakeholders -- the community stations themselves -- from leadership positions. As far as the conference decisions go, everyone in the community radio world is welcome to participate. Once we have a list of stations who have volunteered to host, everyone's voice will be heard in the selection of the upcoming location through a poll to this listserve and discussions at the monthly meet-ups. However, I assure you, the GRC Steering Committee will continue to uphold the wishes of the Madison attendees and keep the GRC conference where it belongs -- in the hands of the stations themselves. So again, We are now SEEKING REPRESENTATIVES FOR THE GRC STEERING COMMITTEE. This is an important, yet low commitment, group of individuals selected by previous host stations to ensure the future, independence, and station-driven identity of the Grassroots Radio Conference. These station reps determine future GRC locations and ensure that the quilt and the seed money gets transferred from one station to the next each year. After that they provide assistance to host stations, as requested, but will mostly facilitate the host station's ability to run the conference independently, as best they see fit. GRC Steering Committee Application: https://forms.gle/USdg3aNufcGT9C1j8 Will you step up? Play a role in keeping American community radio independant or are you content to sleep on this, allow those who profit off our work control what we do? On 2024-02-19 18:52, Michelle Bradley via grc wrote: > I agree in part with Al on this, we do not need a "steering committee" > as suggested in the past.? This roller coaster over GRC governance > continues to teeter totter because of the massive clash between > "traditionalists" and "progressives" where it comes to the question of > the GRC. (footnote: "progressives" as in those who want to see progress > at the GRC, which allows for updating and creating new traditions).. > > I do feel that the Sharon Scott vision for a "steering committee" is a > slightly misguided and is extremely exclusionary.? While those who have > hosted GRCs in the past are a great resource for information in order > to avoid some of the "lessons learned" that have happened at past > conferences, it does exclude out many other subject matter experts in > the fields of event planning and knowledge of the current broadcasting > landscape.? This turns the GRC into an exclusive club with a secret > handshake while excluding out other grassroots radio stakeholders. > > I do agree that we need to move away from the term "steering committee" > as that leaves a bad taste in the mouths of those who are more > traditionalist and rightfully so. I have witnessed the power struggles > and politics where it comes to organizing this thing and what results > is a hastily planned event.? However, sometimes, even when hastily > planned, we do get a winner... Charleston.? I would suggest that we > have instead, a "site selection committee", which is limited solely to > the discussion of site selection based on the potential hosts who bid.? > Such a committee has no ability to "steer" the GRC in any way other > than to which city the event will be held at.? Such a "site selection > committee" should not be discriminatory nor exclusive to only the club > members who have been initiated with the secret handshake. > > It's important to realize that for some in our community, some places > are off limits.? Places like Florida and Texas are good examples as a > result of the tyrant governments there that oppress women, minorities > and the LGBT.? There are places in the south that will detain and > arrest you for using the wrong bathroom. There are places where you > will be more likely to be detained or profile because of the color of > your skin or your accent.? Those economies do not deserve our support > until they get their acts together.? A more well rounded selection > committee with a public outreach can best work out those concerns. > > Honestly, right now, we should be planning the site for the 2025 GRC, > not the 2024.? While I do not feel that Charleston is the best site > from some perspectives, such as travel access and accessibility for > participants with disabilities, the people there have fresh experience > and a willingness to do this again.? I will support a redux in > Charleston as an "extension" of the 2023 show, but overall, we need to > be looking for a 2025 site, right now.? We should be able to announce > the 2025 site on the last day of the 2024 conference. > > One thing we need to do is review the data to determine the locations > of the 2023 Window LPFM stations that would be more likely to attend a > GRC (those in REC's segment 300 series [new secular organizations] and > 400 series [existing secular cause-based organizations]).? I think that > somewhere like West Virginia, while it does have some issues, do not > have discriminatory laws like the southern states do, but I think it is > within roadtrip distance to many stations and with airline access via > ORD, CLT, DCA and ATL, most of the country is a single connection > airline flight away. > > We need to attract new people to the GRC, but in order to do that, we > need to adapt to changing times.? We need to be progressive while > respecting traditions that have not been made obsolete by technology, > the marketplace or political climate.? These conferences need to be > welcoming, informative, affordable, accessible, inclusive and worth > someone's time to take out of their schedule to travel.? Nobody wants > GRC to turn into NFCB Jr., but at the same time, people's expectations > are changing as our society evolves (especially those who are coming > into community radio that have no experience with the 1990s community > radio model).? We need to be open to progress, but we need to progress > slowly where we are not selling out to corporate. > > Sharon has stepped up at a time when no one else has. That must be > recognized and commended.? But at the same time, Sharon and WXOX do not > own the GRC.. neither does REC, Prometheus, Common Frequency, Pacifica > nor NFCB..? Instead, it is a cooperative movement that everyone who is > willing to step up needs to have that opportunity to be heard and be > involved, not just the secret handshake singing koom-ba-yah by the > campfire. > > I respect Sharon's leadership in trying to salvage the GRC in 2023 and > I will support her playing a significant role in the 2024 and 2025 > planning.. but it can't be Sharon calling all of the shots, like the > impression that some folks (including myself) have seen here.? I > respect Sharon for planting the seed to keep this topic fresh but it is > up to all of us to collectively make these decisions, not just the > private club. > > We are all in this together. > > -- > *Michelle Bradley, CBT, KU3N* > /Founder: REC Networks/ > +1 202 621-2355 > https://recnet.com > facebook.com/recnet - Twitter: @michichan > > On 2/19/2024 5:40 PM, al davis via grc wrote: >> On Mon, 19 Feb 2024 11:47:44 -0500 >> Sharon Scott via grc wrote: >>> CALLING ALL GRC HOST STATIONS!!!! SEEKING GRC STEERING COMMITTEE >>> NOMINEES >>> >>> At the GRC11 in Madison, Wisconsin, conference attendees decided to >>> "create a steering committee to help coordinate discussions, assist >>> in >> >> Then at every GRC after that, it was "decided" again to NOT do any >> formal organization, essentially repealing the so-called "vote" to >> formalize at Madison, which nobody remembers anyway. >> >> A formal steering committee is an incredibly bad idea. >> _______________________________________________ >> grc mailing list >> grc at maillist.peak.org >> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc From kenyalewis at gmail.com Mon Feb 19 19:29:23 2024 From: kenyalewis at gmail.com (kenya lewis) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2024 19:29:23 -0800 Subject: [grc] ATTN: Previous GRC Host Stations: Nominate your GRC Steering Committee Reps TODAY! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <569D86B4-0382-415B-936A-D47FFAB58751@gmail.com> This seems fair to me, as an amateur consultant. Stations organizing a conference by and for themselves feels like progress. Things must evolve to live. It sounds like the Steering Committee is both codified and successful. Are there really such big decisions they are making where consultants feel they do not have input? Could this cohort advocate to have input in a more constructive way which doesn?t erode the stations autonomy and making room for new voices? Forgive me, but beefing over control of GRC?which has, in my limited dozen years of experience, seemed to be a labor of love?looks like a symptom of a larger problem in community radio. A new set of people solved some operational problems and created a viable system. Perhaps the more experienced amongst us could challenge themselves to find a more supportive way to pour into this progress? It is a certainty that there are far too few people involved to dis-intermediate anyone offering true expertise. What does the GRC Steering Committee actually erode or harm? The stations who have hosted choose from stations willing to host based on agreed upon criterion. What?s the worse case scenario that consultants could solve for ? and stations could not? > On Feb 19, 2024, at 5:59?PM, Sharon Scott via grc wrote: > > ?This discussion, along with the personal attacks on this listserve have got to stop now. The GRC Steering Committee was established by vote by the Madison GRC participants and we are upholding that mandate. > > As informal as we are, the GRC Steering Committee is an active and productive group that put a lot of work into revitalizing the conference this year. We are also responsible for establishing and maintaining the monthly meet-ups which are now and will always be hosted by community radio stations, not their paid advisors or consultants. We are currently calling for REPRESENTATIVES FROM PREVIOUS GRC HOST STATIONS to serve on the informal GRC Steering Committee. That is it. We are not calling for further discussion of our existence. The Madison vote is enough. The stations who have put in the work to host conferences get little rewards and selecting a staff representative for the Steering Committee is one of them. > > If anyone wants to talk "exclusionary" should be reminded of the GRC KBOO Conference when a group of consultants, including Betty and Michelle and others who have commented on this tread and called me a "dictator" attempted to take hold of the GRC Conference, placing themselves at the helm and effectively excluding the true stakeholders -- the community stations themselves -- from leadership positions. > > As far as the conference decisions go, everyone in the community radio world is welcome to participate. Once we have a list of stations who have volunteered to host, everyone's voice will be heard in the selection of the upcoming location through a poll to this listserve and discussions at the monthly meet-ups. However, I assure you, the GRC Steering Committee will continue to uphold the wishes of the Madison attendees and keep the GRC conference where it belongs -- in the hands of the stations themselves. > > So again, > > We are now SEEKING REPRESENTATIVES FOR THE GRC STEERING COMMITTEE. This is an important, yet low commitment, group of individuals selected by previous host stations to ensure the future, independence, and station-driven identity of the Grassroots Radio Conference. These station reps determine future GRC locations and ensure that the quilt and the seed money gets transferred from one station to the next each year. After that they provide assistance to host stations, as requested, but will mostly facilitate the host station's ability to run the conference independently, as best they see fit. > > GRC Steering Committee Application: > https://forms.gle/USdg3aNufcGT9C1j8 > > Will you step up? Play a role in keeping American community radio independant or are you content to sleep on this, allow those who profit off our work control what we do? > > > > > > >> On 2024-02-19 18:52, Michelle Bradley via grc wrote: >> I agree in part with Al on this, we do not need a "steering committee" as suggested in the past. This roller coaster over GRC governance continues to teeter totter because of the massive clash between "traditionalists" and "progressives" where it comes to the question of the GRC. (footnote: "progressives" as in those who want to see progress at the GRC, which allows for updating and creating new traditions).. >> I do feel that the Sharon Scott vision for a "steering committee" is a slightly misguided and is extremely exclusionary. While those who have hosted GRCs in the past are a great resource for information in order to avoid some of the "lessons learned" that have happened at past conferences, it does exclude out many other subject matter experts in the fields of event planning and knowledge of the current broadcasting landscape. This turns the GRC into an exclusive club with a secret handshake while excluding out other grassroots radio stakeholders. >> I do agree that we need to move away from the term "steering committee" as that leaves a bad taste in the mouths of those who are more traditionalist and rightfully so. I have witnessed the power struggles and politics where it comes to organizing this thing and what results is a hastily planned event. However, sometimes, even when hastily planned, we do get a winner... Charleston. I would suggest that we have instead, a "site selection committee", which is limited solely to the discussion of site selection based on the potential hosts who bid. Such a committee has no ability to "steer" the GRC in any way other than to which city the event will be held at. Such a "site selection committee" should not be discriminatory nor exclusive to only the club members who have been initiated with the secret handshake. >> It's important to realize that for some in our community, some places are off limits. Places like Florida and Texas are good examples as a result of the tyrant governments there that oppress women, minorities and the LGBT. There are places in the south that will detain and arrest you for using the wrong bathroom. There are places where you will be more likely to be detained or profile because of the color of your skin or your accent. Those economies do not deserve our support until they get their acts together. A more well rounded selection committee with a public outreach can best work out those concerns. >> Honestly, right now, we should be planning the site for the 2025 GRC, not the 2024. While I do not feel that Charleston is the best site from some perspectives, such as travel access and accessibility for participants with disabilities, the people there have fresh experience and a willingness to do this again. I will support a redux in Charleston as an "extension" of the 2023 show, but overall, we need to be looking for a 2025 site, right now. We should be able to announce the 2025 site on the last day of the 2024 conference. >> One thing we need to do is review the data to determine the locations of the 2023 Window LPFM stations that would be more likely to attend a GRC (those in REC's segment 300 series [new secular organizations] and 400 series [existing secular cause-based organizations]). I think that somewhere like West Virginia, while it does have some issues, do not have discriminatory laws like the southern states do, but I think it is within roadtrip distance to many stations and with airline access via ORD, CLT, DCA and ATL, most of the country is a single connection airline flight away. >> We need to attract new people to the GRC, but in order to do that, we need to adapt to changing times. We need to be progressive while respecting traditions that have not been made obsolete by technology, the marketplace or political climate. These conferences need to be welcoming, informative, affordable, accessible, inclusive and worth someone's time to take out of their schedule to travel. Nobody wants GRC to turn into NFCB Jr., but at the same time, people's expectations are changing as our society evolves (especially those who are coming into community radio that have no experience with the 1990s community radio model). We need to be open to progress, but we need to progress slowly where we are not selling out to corporate. >> Sharon has stepped up at a time when no one else has. That must be recognized and commended. But at the same time, Sharon and WXOX do not own the GRC.. neither does REC, Prometheus, Common Frequency, Pacifica nor NFCB.. Instead, it is a cooperative movement that everyone who is willing to step up needs to have that opportunity to be heard and be involved, not just the secret handshake singing koom-ba-yah by the campfire. >> I respect Sharon's leadership in trying to salvage the GRC in 2023 and I will support her playing a significant role in the 2024 and 2025 planning.. but it can't be Sharon calling all of the shots, like the impression that some folks (including myself) have seen here. I respect Sharon for planting the seed to keep this topic fresh but it is up to all of us to collectively make these decisions, not just the private club. >> We are all in this together. >> -- >> *Michelle Bradley, CBT, KU3N* >> /Founder: REC Networks/ >> +1 202 621-2355 >> https://recnet.com >> facebook.com/recnet - Twitter: @michichan >>> On 2/19/2024 5:40 PM, al davis via grc wrote: >>> On Mon, 19 Feb 2024 11:47:44 -0500 >>> Sharon Scott via grc wrote: >>>> CALLING ALL GRC HOST STATIONS!!!! SEEKING GRC STEERING COMMITTEE >>>> NOMINEES >>>> At the GRC11 in Madison, Wisconsin, conference attendees decided to >>>> "create a steering committee to help coordinate discussions, assist in >>> Then at every GRC after that, it was "decided" again to NOT do any >>> formal organization, essentially repealing the so-called "vote" to >>> formalize at Madison, which nobody remembers anyway. >>> A formal steering committee is an incredibly bad idea. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> grc mailing list >>> grc at maillist.peak.org >>> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc >> _______________________________________________ >> grc mailing list >> grc at maillist.peak.org >> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc From ad253 at freeelectron.net Mon Feb 19 19:34:53 2024 From: ad253 at freeelectron.net (al davis) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2024 22:34:53 -0500 Subject: [grc] ATTN: Previous GRC Host Stations: Nominate your GRC Steering Committee Reps TODAY! In-Reply-To: References: <8da664d83914172ff4fa091fe958bcb2@artxfm.com> <20240219174040.01cdc055@z> <4c625487-618e-482e-aed1-cdbe636e97dd@recnet.com> Message-ID: <20240219223453.698ce726@z> On Mon, 19 Feb 2024 20:59:36 -0500 Sharon Scott via grc wrote: > If anyone wants to talk "exclusionary" should be reminded of the GRC > KBOO Conference when a group of consultants, including Betty and > Michelle and others who have commented on this tread and called me a > "dictator" attempted to take hold of the GRC Conference, placing > themselves at the helm and effectively excluding the true stakeholders > -- the community stations themselves -- from leadership positions. oh dear ..... Don't you see ????? The objection some of us have to the formal steering committee is based on the fear of repeating that experience at Portland. and we want to get you back on track? From kenyalewis at gmail.com Mon Feb 19 19:49:39 2024 From: kenyalewis at gmail.com (kenya lewis) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2024 19:49:39 -0800 Subject: [grc] ATTN: Previous GRC Host Stations: Nominate your GRC Steering Committee Reps TODAY! In-Reply-To: <20240219223453.698ce726@z> References: <20240219223453.698ce726@z> Message-ID: Hi Al, I?m travelling after tomorrow. Mind helping me understand: + Who is some of us? + Why Sharon needs to put out back on track? + Which track is different from stations leading their own decision-making? + What experience in Portland? Betty just said she organized KBOO. I know she reached out to me about Wade and trying to find a Black speaker? + Coukd you (?some of us? find an approach to give input to the steering committee? + What?s the root of the beef? Change? Doesn?t GRC feel vitalized with new stations using their own voices? Wanting agency? Again, what unique capacity is added solely by eroding the steering committee? > On Feb 19, 2024, at 7:36?PM, al davis via grc wrote: > > ?On Mon, 19 Feb 2024 20:59:36 -0500 > Sharon Scott via grc wrote: >> If anyone wants to talk "exclusionary" should be reminded of the GRC >> KBOO Conference when a group of consultants, including Betty and >> Michelle and others who have commented on this tread and called me a >> "dictator" attempted to take hold of the GRC Conference, placing >> themselves at the helm and effectively excluding the true stakeholders >> -- the community stations themselves -- from leadership positions. > > > oh dear ..... Don't you see ????? > > The objection some of us have to the formal steering committee is based > on the fear of repeating that experience at Portland. and we want to > get you back on track? > > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc From Nathan.Moore at virginia.edu Mon Feb 19 22:03:56 2024 From: Nathan.Moore at virginia.edu (Moore, Nathan Baldwin (nbm9he)) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2024 06:03:56 +0000 Subject: [grc] ATTN: Previous GRC Host Stations: Nominate your GRC Steering Committee Reps TODAY! In-Reply-To: References: <20240219223453.698ce726@z> Message-ID: Hi all, So I was getting GRC digest emails very infrequently. Just today, I asked to get individual emails instead. Some timing! At the GRC conference in Charleston, I finally stepped back into the GRC orbit after a decade or so caucusing with other community media organizations. Today's email threads remind me why I stepped away in the first place. I went to my first GRC conference 20 years ago, and I really do believe in the values of mutual aid, solidarity, and sharing that animate GRC activities. And I also very much believe in being organized. I'm pretty sure Norm Stockwell and I wrote the Madison resolution that established a steering committee. I know I'm the one who added it to GRC's wikipedia page. Having a Steering Committee met a need: to more smoothly hand off conference planning from year to year, to maintain institutional knowledge, and to deal with shit that comes up. Including one or more members from a station(s) that had recently hosted a conference was to assist with the first of those three purposes. I don't know all the beefs that have emerged in more recent years and I don't particularly want to. But I wanted to share that historical perspective. I also want to share something I know to be true: a group needs to have a few things to function as a group: - a mission that its members share and understand - a way to (at least loosely) recognize who group members are - some way to make decisions about operations and priorities ~Nathan -- Nathan Moore (he/his) WTJU General Manager 434.249.7564 Nathan.Moore at virginia.edu ________________________________ From: grc on behalf of kenya lewis via grc Sent: Monday, February 19, 2024 10:49 PM To: al davis Cc: grc at maillist.peak.org Subject: Re: [grc] ATTN: Previous GRC Host Stations: Nominate your GRC Steering Committee Reps TODAY! Hi Al, I?m travelling after tomorrow. Mind helping me understand: + Who is some of us? + Why Sharon needs to put out back on track? + Which track is different from stations leading their own decision-making? + What experience in Portland? Betty just said she organized KBOO. I know she reached out to me about Wade and trying to find a Black speaker? + Coukd you (?some of us? find an approach to give input to the steering committee? + What?s the root of the beef? Change? Doesn?t GRC feel vitalized with new stations using their own voices? Wanting agency? Again, what unique capacity is added solely by eroding the steering committee? > On Feb 19, 2024, at 7:36?PM, al davis via grc wrote: > > ?On Mon, 19 Feb 2024 20:59:36 -0500 > Sharon Scott via grc wrote: >> If anyone wants to talk "exclusionary" should be reminded of the GRC >> KBOO Conference when a group of consultants, including Betty and >> Michelle and others who have commented on this tread and called me a >> "dictator" attempted to take hold of the GRC Conference, placing >> themselves at the helm and effectively excluding the true stakeholders >> -- the community stations themselves -- from leadership positions. > > > oh dear ..... Don't you see ????? > > The objection some of us have to the formal steering committee is based > on the fear of repeating that experience at Portland. and we want to > get you back on track? > > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc _______________________________________________ grc mailing list grc at maillist.peak.org http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc From mike at brownbroadcast.com Tue Feb 20 11:41:50 2024 From: mike at brownbroadcast.com (Michael D. Brown) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2024 11:41:50 -0800 Subject: [grc] ATTN: Previous GRC Host Stations: Nominate your GRC Steering Committee Reps TODAY! In-Reply-To: References: <20240219223453.698ce726@z> Message-ID: <000701da6434$df0f4d90$9d2de8b0$@brownbroadcast.com> What he said! Michael D. Brown Brown Broadcast Services, Inc. 3740 SW Comus St. ? Portland OR 97219-7418 USA mike at brownbroadcast.com ? www.brownbroadcast.com offc 503-245-6065 ? cell 503-703-3202 -----Original Message----- From: grc On Behalf Of Moore, Nathan Baldwin (nbm9he) via grc Sent: Monday, February 19, 2024 10:04 PM To: grc at maillist.peak.org Subject: Re: [grc] ATTN: Previous GRC Host Stations: Nominate your GRC Steering Committee Reps TODAY! Hi all, So I was getting GRC digest emails very infrequently. Just today, I asked to get individual emails instead. Some timing! At the GRC conference in Charleston, I finally stepped back into the GRC orbit after a decade or so caucusing with other community media organizations. Today's email threads remind me why I stepped away in the first place. I went to my first GRC conference 20 years ago, and I really do believe in the values of mutual aid, solidarity, and sharing that animate GRC activities. And I also very much believe in being organized. I'm pretty sure Norm Stockwell and I wrote the Madison resolution that established a steering committee. I know I'm the one who added it to GRC's wikipedia page. Having a Steering Committee met a need: to more smoothly hand off conference planning from year to year, to maintain institutional knowledge, and to deal with shit that comes up. Including one or more members from a station(s) that had recently hosted a conference was to assist with the first of those three purposes. I don't know all the beefs that have emerged in more recent years and I don't particularly want to. But I wanted to share that historical perspective. I also want to share something I know to be true: a group needs to have a few things to function as a group: - a mission that its members share and understand - a way to (at least loosely) recognize who group members are - some way to make decisions about operations and priorities ~Nathan -- Nathan Moore (he/his) WTJU General Manager 434.249.7564 Nathan.Moore at virginia.edu ________________________________ From: grc on behalf of kenya lewis via grc Sent: Monday, February 19, 2024 10:49 PM To: al davis Cc: grc at maillist.peak.org Subject: Re: [grc] ATTN: Previous GRC Host Stations: Nominate your GRC Steering Committee Reps TODAY! Hi Al, I?m travelling after tomorrow. Mind helping me understand: + Who is some of us? + Why Sharon needs to put out back on track? + Which track is different from stations leading their own decision-making? + What experience in Portland? Betty just said she organized KBOO. I know she reached out to me about Wade and trying to find a Black speaker? + Coukd you (?some of us? find an approach to give input to the steering committee? + What?s the root of the beef? Change? Doesn?t GRC feel vitalized with new stations using their own voices? Wanting agency? Again, what unique capacity is added solely by eroding the steering committee? > On Feb 19, 2024, at 7:36?PM, al davis via grc wrote: > > ?On Mon, 19 Feb 2024 20:59:36 -0500 > Sharon Scott via grc wrote: >> If anyone wants to talk "exclusionary" should be reminded of the GRC >> KBOO Conference when a group of consultants, including Betty and >> Michelle and others who have commented on this tread and called me a >> "dictator" attempted to take hold of the GRC Conference, placing >> themselves at the helm and effectively excluding the true >> stakeholders >> -- the community stations themselves -- from leadership positions. > > > oh dear ..... Don't you see ????? > > The objection some of us have to the formal steering committee is > based on the fear of repeating that experience at Portland. and we > want to get you back on track? > > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc _______________________________________________ grc mailing list grc at maillist.peak.org http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc _______________________________________________ grc mailing list grc at maillist.peak.org http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc From mbbm at brownbroadcast.com Tue Feb 20 19:42:14 2024 From: mbbm at brownbroadcast.com (Betty McArdle) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2024 19:42:14 -0800 Subject: [grc] ATTN: Previous GRC Host Stations: Nominate your GRC Steering Committee Reps TODAY! In-Reply-To: References: <8da664d83914172ff4fa091fe958bcb2@artxfm.com> <20240219174040.01cdc055@z> <4c625487-618e-482e-aed1-cdbe636e97dd@recnet.com> Message-ID: <000001da6477$f7802ff0$e6808fd0$@brownbroadcast.com> Hi All, I just want to clarify a couple of things since my name has come up in the email below. Firstly, I never called Sharon a dictator. After the 2018 KBOO-hosted GRC a few of us said it would be great to have some kind of continuity between GRCs and some structure. I offered to convene a phone meeting to talk about that idea. I posted on the GRC listserve that such a meeting was being proposed and directing interested folks to a Doodle site where they could indicate which dates/times they were available for a meeting. Those who responded met and talked about structure and continuity. Some ideas were offered including incorporating. There was a big brouhaha that that was not the GRC way. Those of us who were starting to put together a GRC Steering Committee (that is what we called it) withdrew the idea and went on the way things had been done previously. There was no attempt to exclude community radio station staff. They would have been welcomed with open arms. There may be some community radio station staff who do not read the GRC listserve postings. They may not have seen the invitation to join an informal meeting to discuss structure and continuity. But, where else would someone post information about GRC? I am not a paid consultant for KBOO or any other station. Any work I do for community stations is done free of charge to the station. The work I did as co-chair of KBOO's hosting of the GRC in 2018 was done as a KBOO volunteer. I have been a member of KBOO for 40+ years and am also a volunteer. I should think that might give me some cred to be on the current steering committee, if KBOO chose to nominate me to be their representative. I highly appreciate the work Sharon and others have done to revitalize the GRC. Sharon is a great motivator for getting things going. Thank you all for what you do for community radio. Best, Betty McArdle Community Media Assistance Project (CMAP) . -----Original Message----- From: grc On Behalf Of Sharon Scott via grc Sent: Monday, February 19, 2024 6:00 PM To: Michelle Bradley Cc: grc at maillist.peak.org Subject: Re: [grc] ATTN: Previous GRC Host Stations: Nominate your GRC Steering Committee Reps TODAY! This discussion, along with the personal attacks on this listserve have got to stop now. The GRC Steering Committee was established by vote by the Madison GRC participants and we are upholding that mandate. As informal as we are, the GRC Steering Committee is an active and productive group that put a lot of work into revitalizing the conference this year. We are also responsible for establishing and maintaining the monthly meet-ups which are now and will always be hosted by community radio stations, not their paid advisors or consultants. We are currently calling for REPRESENTATIVES FROM PREVIOUS GRC HOST STATIONS to serve on the informal GRC Steering Committee. That is it. We are not calling for further discussion of our existence. The Madison vote is enough. The stations who have put in the work to host conferences get little rewards and selecting a staff representative for the Steering Committee is one of them. If anyone wants to talk "exclusionary" should be reminded of the GRC KBOO Conference when a group of consultants, including Betty and Michelle and others who have commented on this tread and called me a "dictator" attempted to take hold of the GRC Conference, placing themselves at the helm and effectively excluding the true stakeholders -- the community stations themselves -- from leadership positions. As far as the conference decisions go, everyone in the community radio world is welcome to participate. Once we have a list of stations who have volunteered to host, everyone's voice will be heard in the selection of the upcoming location through a poll to this listserve and discussions at the monthly meet-ups. However, I assure you, the GRC Steering Committee will continue to uphold the wishes of the Madison attendees and keep the GRC conference where it belongs -- in the hands of the stations themselves. So again, We are now SEEKING REPRESENTATIVES FOR THE GRC STEERING COMMITTEE. This is an important, yet low commitment, group of individuals selected by previous host stations to ensure the future, independence, and station-driven identity of the Grassroots Radio Conference. These station reps determine future GRC locations and ensure that the quilt and the seed money gets transferred from one station to the next each year. After that they provide assistance to host stations, as requested, but will mostly facilitate the host station's ability to run the conference independently, as best they see fit. GRC Steering Committee Application: https://forms.gle/USdg3aNufcGT9C1j8 Will you step up? Play a role in keeping American community radio independant or are you content to sleep on this, allow those who profit off our work control what we do? On 2024-02-19 18:52, Michelle Bradley via grc wrote: > I agree in part with Al on this, we do not need a "steering committee" > as suggested in the past. This roller coaster over GRC governance > continues to teeter totter because of the massive clash between > "traditionalists" and "progressives" where it comes to the question of > the GRC. (footnote: "progressives" as in those who want to see > progress at the GRC, which allows for updating and creating new traditions).. > > I do feel that the Sharon Scott vision for a "steering committee" is a > slightly misguided and is extremely exclusionary. While those who > have hosted GRCs in the past are a great resource for information in > order to avoid some of the "lessons learned" that have happened at > past conferences, it does exclude out many other subject matter > experts in the fields of event planning and knowledge of the current > broadcasting landscape. This turns the GRC into an exclusive club > with a secret handshake while excluding out other grassroots radio stakeholders. > > I do agree that we need to move away from the term "steering committee" > as that leaves a bad taste in the mouths of those who are more > traditionalist and rightfully so. I have witnessed the power struggles > and politics where it comes to organizing this thing and what results > is a hastily planned event. However, sometimes, even when hastily > planned, we do get a winner... Charleston. I would suggest that we > have instead, a "site selection committee", which is limited solely to > the discussion of site selection based on the potential hosts who bid. > Such a committee has no ability to "steer" the GRC in any way other > than to which city the event will be held at. Such a "site selection > committee" should not be discriminatory nor exclusive to only the club > members who have been initiated with the secret handshake. > > It's important to realize that for some in our community, some places > are off limits. Places like Florida and Texas are good examples as a > result of the tyrant governments there that oppress women, minorities > and the LGBT. There are places in the south that will detain and > arrest you for using the wrong bathroom. There are places where you > will be more likely to be detained or profile because of the color of > your skin or your accent. Those economies do not deserve our support > until they get their acts together. A more well rounded selection > committee with a public outreach can best work out those concerns. > > Honestly, right now, we should be planning the site for the 2025 GRC, > not the 2024. While I do not feel that Charleston is the best site > from some perspectives, such as travel access and accessibility for > participants with disabilities, the people there have fresh experience > and a willingness to do this again. I will support a redux in > Charleston as an "extension" of the 2023 show, but overall, we need to > be looking for a 2025 site, right now. We should be able to announce > the 2025 site on the last day of the 2024 conference. > > One thing we need to do is review the data to determine the locations > of the 2023 Window LPFM stations that would be more likely to attend a > GRC (those in REC's segment 300 series [new secular organizations] and > 400 series [existing secular cause-based organizations]). I think > that somewhere like West Virginia, while it does have some issues, do > not have discriminatory laws like the southern states do, but I think > it is within roadtrip distance to many stations and with airline > access via ORD, CLT, DCA and ATL, most of the country is a single > connection airline flight away. > > We need to attract new people to the GRC, but in order to do that, we > need to adapt to changing times. We need to be progressive while > respecting traditions that have not been made obsolete by technology, > the marketplace or political climate. These conferences need to be > welcoming, informative, affordable, accessible, inclusive and worth > someone's time to take out of their schedule to travel. Nobody wants > GRC to turn into NFCB Jr., but at the same time, people's expectations > are changing as our society evolves (especially those who are coming > into community radio that have no experience with the 1990s community > radio model). We need to be open to progress, but we need to progress > slowly where we are not selling out to corporate. > > Sharon has stepped up at a time when no one else has. That must be > recognized and commended. But at the same time, Sharon and WXOX do > not own the GRC.. neither does REC, Prometheus, Common Frequency, > Pacifica nor NFCB.. Instead, it is a cooperative movement that > everyone who is willing to step up needs to have that opportunity to > be heard and be involved, not just the secret handshake singing > koom-ba-yah by the campfire. > > I respect Sharon's leadership in trying to salvage the GRC in 2023 and > I will support her playing a significant role in the 2024 and 2025 > planning.. but it can't be Sharon calling all of the shots, like the > impression that some folks (including myself) have seen here. I > respect Sharon for planting the seed to keep this topic fresh but it > is up to all of us to collectively make these decisions, not just the > private club. > > We are all in this together. > > -- > *Michelle Bradley, CBT, KU3N* > /Founder: REC Networks/ > +1 202 621-2355 > https://recnet.com > facebook.com/recnet - Twitter: @michichan > > On 2/19/2024 5:40 PM, al davis via grc wrote: >> On Mon, 19 Feb 2024 11:47:44 -0500 >> Sharon Scott via grc wrote: >>> CALLING ALL GRC HOST STATIONS!!!! SEEKING GRC STEERING COMMITTEE >>> NOMINEES >>> >>> At the GRC11 in Madison, Wisconsin, conference attendees decided to >>> "create a steering committee to help coordinate discussions, assist >>> in >> >> Then at every GRC after that, it was "decided" again to NOT do any >> formal organization, essentially repealing the so-called "vote" to >> formalize at Madison, which nobody remembers anyway. >> >> A formal steering committee is an incredibly bad idea. >> _______________________________________________ >> grc mailing list >> grc at maillist.peak.org >> http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc _______________________________________________ grc mailing list grc at maillist.peak.org http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc From ad253 at freeelectron.net Sun Feb 25 16:06:50 2024 From: ad253 at freeelectron.net (al davis) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2024 19:06:50 -0500 Subject: [grc] ATTN: Previous GRC Host Stations: Nominate your GRC Steering Committee Reps TODAY! In-Reply-To: <912c8dcadcd1525a8d776b47a3def618@artxfm.com> References: <8da664d83914172ff4fa091fe958bcb2@artxfm.com> <20240219174040.01cdc055@z> <912c8dcadcd1525a8d776b47a3def618@artxfm.com> Message-ID: <20240225190650.268f8487@z> On Mon, 19 Feb 2024 18:18:49 -0500 Sharon Scott wrote: > Who are you AL ? I'm a software developer. I work on open-source AI based tools for simulation of large complex systems, funded by a foreign government. I have built a few radio stations, but I had to stop doing it because it is not sufficiently lucrative. From docsturdevant at gmail.com Sun Feb 25 17:42:11 2024 From: docsturdevant at gmail.com (aDRIAN STURDEVANT) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2024 19:42:11 -0600 Subject: [grc] Hey I would like to be remove from the list Message-ID: remove me from the list I?m no longer at Kpsq Adrian Sturdevant From pbame at prometheusradio.org Mon Feb 26 07:14:41 2024 From: pbame at prometheusradio.org (Paul Bame) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2024 10:14:41 -0500 Subject: [grc] ATTN: Previous GRC Host Stations: Nominate your GRC Steering Committee Reps TODAY! In-Reply-To: <20240225190650.268f8487@z> References: <8da664d83914172ff4fa091fe958bcb2@artxfm.com> <20240219174040.01cdc055@z> <912c8dcadcd1525a8d776b47a3def618@artxfm.com> <20240225190650.268f8487@z> Message-ID: My first GRC was #2 in 1997. Al is a GRC elder who strongly holds part of our collectivist conscience and identity -- and one of my engineering advisors. As part of open-source software projects, he actively practiced organizational collectivism -- humanism-motivated values and skills once more widespread among GRC stations and other groups -- arguably ascendent in society during GRC's early years. 911 propaganda scared Good Americans into saluting dehumanization, and collectivism leaked into the memory hole. Orwell cautions that good-hearted people who are simply expressing the shared values of their society, will misunderstand, shun, and forcibly deprogram those who talk of forbidden knowledge from the memory hole. Big Brother's weakness is courageous curiosity and re-membering, which sounds like good radio. ## Paul (he/him) (pablito) Bame Engineering Director, Philadelphia, Prometheus Radio Project 215.727.9620 x2 / 970.988.3849 On Sun, Feb 25, 2024 at 7:08?PM al davis via grc wrote: > On Mon, 19 Feb 2024 18:18:49 -0500 > Sharon Scott wrote: > > Who are you AL ? > > I'm a software developer. I work on open-source AI based tools for > simulation of large complex systems, funded by a foreign government. > > I have built a few radio stations, but I had to stop doing it because > it is not sufficiently lucrative. > > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > From ad253 at freeelectron.net Mon Feb 26 16:51:44 2024 From: ad253 at freeelectron.net (al davis) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2024 19:51:44 -0500 Subject: [grc] conference ... quilt and seed money? Message-ID: <20240226195144.663556b6@z> With the recent commotion ... What is the status of conference properties including the quilt and seed money? Where are they? Who is keeping track? From gm at artxfm.com Mon Feb 26 18:18:40 2024 From: gm at artxfm.com (Sharon Scott) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2024 21:18:40 -0500 Subject: [grc] conference ... quilt and seed money? In-Reply-To: <20240226195144.663556b6@z> References: <20240226195144.663556b6@z> Message-ID: <509a87638bcc0cf4b2085198cf2b8faa@artxfm.com> WTSQ has the quilt and the seed money. both of which the GRC Steering Committee recovered from the Rochester hosts. We are keeping track. On 2024-02-26 19:51, al davis via grc wrote: > With the recent commotion ... > > What is the status of conference properties including the quilt and > seed money? Where are they? Who is keeping track? > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc From ad253 at freeelectron.net Mon Feb 26 19:21:37 2024 From: ad253 at freeelectron.net (al davis) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2024 22:21:37 -0500 Subject: [grc] conference ... quilt and seed money? In-Reply-To: <509a87638bcc0cf4b2085198cf2b8faa@artxfm.com> References: <20240226195144.663556b6@z> <509a87638bcc0cf4b2085198cf2b8faa@artxfm.com> Message-ID: <20240226222137.1ca52d48@z> On Mon, 26 Feb 2024 21:18:40 -0500 Sharon Scott wrote: > WTSQ has the quilt and the seed money. Damon: can you confirm this? From gm at artxfm.com Tue Feb 27 08:20:06 2024 From: gm at artxfm.com (Sharon Scott) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2024 11:20:06 -0500 Subject: [grc] GRC Monthly Meet-Up Message-ID: <63c48c841a32e6487926c347b0d40146@artxfm.com> ART FM is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting. Topic: GRC Monthly Meet-Up Time: Feb 27, 2024 08:00 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada) Join Zoom Meeting https://us02web.zoom.us/j/87036660823 Meeting ID: 870 3666 0823 Tonight's Agenda: NO DRAMA --- One tap mobile +16469313860,,87036660823# US +13017158592,,87036660823# US (Washington DC) --- Dial by your location ? +1 646 931 3860 US ? +1 301 715 8592 US (Washington DC) ? +1 305 224 1968 US ? +1 309 205 3325 US ? +1 312 626 6799 US (Chicago) ? +1 646 558 8656 US (New York) ? +1 689 278 1000 US ? +1 719 359 4580 US ? +1 253 205 0468 US ? +1 253 215 8782 US (Tacoma) ? +1 346 248 7799 US (Houston) ? +1 360 209 5623 US ? +1 386 347 5053 US ? +1 507 473 4847 US ? +1 564 217 2000 US ? +1 669 444 9171 US ? +1 669 900 9128 US (San Jose) Meeting ID: 870 3666 0823 Find your local number: https://us02web.zoom.us/u/ketCmbrwh0 *************************** Sharon M. Scott Co-Founder & General Manager ARTxFM / WXOX 97.1 FM P.O. Box 5103 Louisville, Kentucky 40255 USA 502.640.6414 *************************** ARTxFM http://www.artxfm.com ************************ NEW BOOK: LOW POWER FM for DUMMIES https://www.amazon.com/Low-Power-Dummies-Sharon-Scott/dp/1394185324/ From damon at wtsq.org Tue Feb 27 10:59:17 2024 From: damon at wtsq.org (Damon Cater) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2024 13:59:17 -0500 Subject: [grc] conference ... quilt and seed money? In-Reply-To: <20240226222137.1ca52d48@z> References: <20240226195144.663556b6@z> <509a87638bcc0cf4b2085198cf2b8faa@artxfm.com> <20240226222137.1ca52d48@z> Message-ID: Yes, that is correct. Quilt and Seed Money are secure! On Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 10:22?PM al davis wrote: > On Mon, 26 Feb 2024 21:18:40 -0500 > Sharon Scott wrote: > > WTSQ has the quilt and the seed money. > > Damon: can you confirm this? > > -- *-Damon Cater* President WTSQ 88.1 FM - *The Status Quo* 304-678-4159 <304-610-5666> wtsq.org From greg.kkfi at gmail.com Tue Feb 27 11:52:21 2024 From: greg.kkfi at gmail.com (Greg Swartz) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2024 13:52:21 -0600 Subject: [grc] conference ... quilt and seed money? In-Reply-To: References: <20240226195144.663556b6@z> <509a87638bcc0cf4b2085198cf2b8faa@artxfm.com> <20240226222137.1ca52d48@z> Message-ID: I volunteer with KKFI and am on the Finance Committee. I was treasurer for 6 years, too. I was just wondering if any of the money is drawing interest. Of course, it seems to me that to make that worthwhile it would need to be a fair amount and in a liquid account. KKFI keeps its reserve funds in a Fidelity money market account and 4-week treasury bills. Thanks! Greg Swartz On Tue, Feb 27, 2024, 12:59 PM Damon Cater via grc wrote: > Yes, that is correct. Quilt and Seed Money are secure! > > On Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 10:22?PM al davis wrote: > > > On Mon, 26 Feb 2024 21:18:40 -0500 > > Sharon Scott wrote: > > > WTSQ has the quilt and the seed money. > > > > Damon: can you confirm this? > > > > > > -- > > *-Damon Cater* > > President > > WTSQ 88.1 FM - *The Status Quo* > 304-678-4159 <304-610-5666> > wtsq.org > _______________________________________________ > grc mailing list > grc at maillist.peak.org > http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc > From kenny at wtsq.org Tue Feb 27 14:44:06 2024 From: kenny at wtsq.org (Kenny Lavender) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2024 17:44:06 -0500 Subject: [grc] conference ... quilt and seed money? In-Reply-To: <20240226222137.1ca52d48@z> References: <20240226195144.663556b6@z> <509a87638bcc0cf4b2085198cf2b8faa@artxfm.com> <20240226222137.1ca52d48@z> Message-ID: Al I can confirm we have the quilt and the seed money. I attended the GRC in 2015 in Palenville by the way, the first attended by anyone from WTSQ in our first year on air. Kenny Lavender Founding Member WTSQ -----Original Message----- From: grc On Behalf Of al davis via grc Sent: Monday, February 26, 2024 10:22 PM To: grc at maillist.peak.org Subject: Re: [grc] conference ... quilt and seed money? On Mon, 26 Feb 2024 21:18:40 -0500 Sharon Scott wrote: > WTSQ has the quilt and the seed money. Damon: can you confirm this? _______________________________________________ grc mailing list grc at maillist.peak.org http://maillist.peak.org/mailman/listinfo/grc