[grc] Will you indulge me this one appeal? New program!

[Andrew Stelzer]

I agree with John 102%,(extra 2 because I advocate zero program
announcements here, not 1 per year)

Self-restraint is a pipe dream, especially amongst 'promoters'--by
definition.

The pacificaannounce list exists for exactly this purpose--for program
announcements. Allowing program announcements on the GRC list will drive
people(and entire stations) from this list that need it as a crucial
resource...and will also dilute the strength of Pacifica-announce as a
clear source of what its intended for--peopel will get confused as to which
list to post to, etc. We all end up weaker.

go here!!!:
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/pacificaannounce/info


On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 10:40 AM, John Grebe via grc <grc at maillist.peak.org>
wrote:

> People do not know how to self-restrain, for even once per year postings.
> Some producers are
> super-promoters, and it doesn't equate to quality of programming.
>
> Only after subscribing for 6 months should a list member be allowed to
> send a
> promotion/announcement of their program.
>
> This is not a producers' or program directors' email list specifically.
> It's a general radio issues list for
> grassroots radio stations. (I'm a producer-reporter host and radio
> technician.) I would subscribe to a
> separate list for producers and/or program directors among the GRC members.
>
> In case three producers of one show are all list members:  ONLY one
> program announcement or
> description PER SHOW (not per producer) may be sent per year, signed with
> the full name of the
> poster and all producers involved. Violating that year-long term results
> in expulsion from the GRC
> list. I'd want any annual limit enforced harshly. No slippery pushing at
> the limits by sliding program
> content into emails ostensibly on other subjects. Frankly, a web link in
> email is enough promotion so
> interested "targets" can find weekly descriptions on a web page.
>
> If the wrong change is made to list rules, super-promoters and replies to
> them will burden this
> general purpose list.
>
> There are separate spaces for that elsewhere. If necessary, start a
> separate email list--perhaps
> GRC-Programs--to accommodate us producers' show descriptions or
> announcements.
>
> Traffic on the GRC list surges and recedes at times. That's not a reason
> to flood it with program
> announcements, where the biggest self-promoters take up the most space.
> This list is a wonderful
> resource (and a great reference archive) to learn about obscure important
> radio knowledge from
> decades-experienced GRC'ers--information that's not found elsewhere.
> Program content
> announcements, however, can be found on producers' own sites and upload
> sites (like Radio4All,
> Pacifica's AudioPort, PRX, Content Depot, etc.).
>
> The worst effect of regular program announcements or descriptions on this
> GRC list would be that
> people like me would stop reading it for all the rest of the content. I
> watched a local Boston area
> independent radio list get smacked with programs' (an excellent program,
> but that's not the point)
> announcements. It stanched discussion, and diluted the original purpose of
> the list.
>
> How many list member producers are we? Do we want that number of show
> announcements per
> week, month or year?
>
> Best regards,
> John
> -
> WZBC-FM Boston-Newton
>
>
>
> On 20 Mar 2017 at 12:27, David Klann via grc wrote:
>
> To:     grc at maillist.peak.org
> Organization:   WDRT, 91.9fm, Viroqua, WI, US
> Date sent:      Mon, 20 Mar 2017 12:27:26 -0500
> Subject:        Re: [grc] Will you indulge me this one appeal? New program!
> From:   David Klann via grc <grc at maillist.peak.org>
> Send reply to:  dklann at wdrt.org
>
> > As the current "list cop" I support this idea! Occasionally promoting
> > a program seems like a reasonable idea and might help spread the word
> > for producers. I would hope that people know how to self-restrain. :)
> >
> >   ~David Klann
> >
> >
> > On 03/20/2017 12:22 PM, Maria Gilardin via grc wrote:
> > > Hi Jama, I remember that the prohibition was for producers like
> > > Frieda and I who put out weekly shows not to flood the list with
> > > each release - but I also would like to see who else is distributing
> > > and it was fun to read about Dave. Once a year seems fair and
> > > whenever something goes into distribution for the first time, like
> > > Sound and Fury.
> > >
> > > Maria Gilardin/TUC Radio
> > > PO Box 44/Calpella, CA, 95418
> > > (707) 463-2654
> > > http://www.tucradio.org
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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