[grc] Will you indulge me this one appeal? New program!

Wed Mar 22 14:06:20 PDT 2017

Many grc members are not Pacifica affiliates, I think.

On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 11:04 AM Andrew Stelzer via grc <
grc at maillist.peak.org> wrote:

> I agree with John 102%,(extra 2 because I advocate zero program
> announcements here, not 1 per year)
>
> Self-restraint is a pipe dream, especially amongst 'promoters'--by
> definition.
>
> The pacificaannounce list exists for exactly this purpose--for program
> announcements. Allowing program announcements on the GRC list will drive
> people(and entire stations) from this list that need it as a crucial
> resource...and will also dilute the strength of Pacifica-announce as a
> clear source of what its intended for--peopel will get confused as to which
> list to post to, etc. We all end up weaker.
>
> go here!!!:
> https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/pacificaannounce/info
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 10:40 AM, John Grebe via grc <
> grc at maillist.peak.org>
> wrote:
>
> > People do not know how to self-restrain, for even once per year postings.
> > Some producers are
> > super-promoters, and it doesn't equate to quality of programming.
> >
> > Only after subscribing for 6 months should a list member be allowed to
> > send a
> > promotion/announcement of their program.
> >
> > This is not a producers' or program directors' email list specifically.
> > It's a general radio issues list for
> > grassroots radio stations. (I'm a producer-reporter host and radio
> > technician.) I would subscribe to a
> > separate list for producers and/or program directors among the GRC
> members.
> >
> > In case three producers of one show are all list members:  ONLY one
> > program announcement or
> > description PER SHOW (not per producer) may be sent per year, signed with
> > the full name of the
> > poster and all producers involved. Violating that year-long term results
> > in expulsion from the GRC
> > list. I'd want any annual limit enforced harshly. No slippery pushing at
> > the limits by sliding program
> > content into emails ostensibly on other subjects. Frankly, a web link in
> > email is enough promotion so
> > interested "targets" can find weekly descriptions on a web page.
> >
> > If the wrong change is made to list rules, super-promoters and replies to
> > them will burden this
> > general purpose list.
> >
> > There are separate spaces for that elsewhere. If necessary, start a
> > separate email list--perhaps
> > GRC-Programs--to accommodate us producers' show descriptions or
> > announcements.
> >
> > Traffic on the GRC list surges and recedes at times. That's not a reason
> > to flood it with program
> > announcements, where the biggest self-promoters take up the most space.
> > This list is a wonderful
> > resource (and a great reference archive) to learn about obscure important
> > radio knowledge from
> > decades-experienced GRC'ers--information that's not found elsewhere.
> > Program content
> > announcements, however, can be found on producers' own sites and upload
> > sites (like Radio4All,
> > Pacifica's AudioPort, PRX, Content Depot, etc.).
> >
> > The worst effect of regular program announcements or descriptions on this
> > GRC list would be that
> > people like me would stop reading it for all the rest of the content. I
> > watched a local Boston area
> > independent radio list get smacked with programs' (an excellent program,
> > but that's not the point)
> > announcements. It stanched discussion, and diluted the original purpose
> of
> > the list.
> >
> > How many list member producers are we? Do we want that number of show
> > announcements per
> > week, month or year?
> >
> > Best regards,
> > John
> > -
> > WZBC-FM Boston-Newton
> >
> >
> >
> > On 20 Mar 2017 at 12:27, David Klann via grc wrote:
> >
> > To:     grc at maillist.peak.org
> > Organization:   WDRT, 91.9fm, Viroqua, WI, US
> > Date sent:      Mon, 20 Mar 2017 12:27:26 -0500
> > Subject:        Re: [grc] Will you indulge me this one appeal? New
> program!
> > From:   David Klann via grc <grc at maillist.peak.org>
> > Send reply to:  dklann at wdrt.org
> >
> > > As the current "list cop" I support this idea! Occasionally promoting
> > > a program seems like a reasonable idea and might help spread the word
> > > for producers. I would hope that people know how to self-restrain. :)
> > >
> > >   ~David Klann
> > >
> > >
> > > On 03/20/2017 12:22 PM, Maria Gilardin via grc wrote:
> > > > Hi Jama, I remember that the prohibition was for producers like
> > > > Frieda and I who put out weekly shows not to flood the list with
> > > > each release - but I also would like to see who else is distributing
> > > > and it was fun to read about Dave. Once a year seems fair and
> > > > whenever something goes into distribution for the first time, like
> > > > Sound and Fury.
> > > >
> > > > Maria Gilardin/TUC Radio
> > > > PO Box 44/Calpella, CA, 95418
> > > > (707) 463-2654
> > > > http://www.tucradio.org
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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