[grc] Community radio shows on other platforms

wildrose at pon.net wildrose at pon.net
Mon Aug 3 12:43:37 PDT 2020 

I would check with your station's attorney for advice on whether or not
programming produced by volunteer unpaid programmers qualifies as "work
for hire", in which case it is the intellectual property of the station,
or not "work for hire," in which it is the intellectual property of the
program producer(s). 

If you want/need free programs, then perhaps it is OK to allow the
program producer to monetize it to help them earn a living? 

On 2020-08-03 12:37 PM, Spencer Graves via grc wrote:

> Hi, Doug:
> 
> I'm not an attorney, but from what I know, CC BY-SA means that anyone can use it in whole or in part for commercial or non-commercial purposes, provided they acknowledge that they are using your material.
> 
> If you add "noncommercial", it means that anyone wanting to use it (in whole or in part) for commercial purposes must ask for your permission, and you can charge for that or refuse to grant such permission, I believe.
> 
> Is that correct?
> 
> Thanks,
> Spencer Graves
> 
> On 2020-08-03 14:19, Doug McVay wrote: 
> 
>> Creative Commons licenses are explained in great detail here:
>> https://creativecommons.org/licenses/
>> 
>> If you want to take steps to preserve the noncommercial aspect of the programming, then you'll want to include NonCommercial among the terms. See for example
>> https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Doug
>> 
>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 12:07 PM Spencer Graves via grc <grc at maillist.peak.org <mailto:grc at maillist.peak.org>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello, All:
>> 
>> I started volunteering with KKFI over 4 years ago.  I
>> once saw Mike
>> Murphy use a form that was a half page of legalese.  I didn't like it.
>> I lobbied to change the policy to allow the use of the creative commons
>> attribution share-alike (CC BY-SA) license.  KKFI's legal counsel said
>> he loved the creative commons.  KKFI does not have an official
>> policy on
>> this as far as I know.  I use the attached form, which invites the
>> person to specify either public domain or CC BY-SA (text copied below).
>> 
>> Spencer Graves
>> 
>> TEXT FROM THE ATTACHED WORD DOCUMENT:
>> 
>> I hereby give my permission for this presentation and supporting
>> material to be released (select one):
>> 
>> into the public domain (CC0), or
>> 
>> under the Creative Commons Attribution Share-Alike 4.0 (CC BY-SA)
>> license.1
>> 
>> Signature:      ________________________________________
>> 
>> Printed Name:               ________________________________________
>> 
>> Address:        ________________________________________
>> 
>> ________________________________________
>> 
>> Date:           _____________
>> 
>> Event:          _____________
>> 
>> 1.  Creative Commons (CC) is a collection of licenses that support free
>> distribution.  The "BY-SA" license authorizes redistribution under an
>> identical ("not more restrictive") license (share alike, SA) of
>> derivative work with attribution (BY).  The official verbiage is
>> available on the web.  Version 4.0 is international.  The term "public
>> domain" does not mean the same in some countries as others;  CC0
>> provides an international standard for what is know in the US as
>> "public
>> domain".  The complete verbiage is available on the Internet.
>> 
>> On 2020-08-03 13:54, Will Floyd via grc wrote:
>>> Thanks Tracy and David for the insight.
>>> 
>>> I'll follow up to say that I am specifically concerned with
>> podcast-safe
>>> talk programming here. Given the non-commercial nature of our
>> station, I am
>>> interested in creating a license agreement with our volunteers
>> that would
>>> preserve their right of ownership but maintain the non-commercial
>> nature of
>>> the content, in such a way that the station would have some say
>> about it
>>> being monetized on Youtube or via podcast.
>>> 
>>> *William Floyd*
>>> Operations Manager
>>> 505.428.1491
>>> KSFR - Santa Fe Public Radio <http://www.ksfr.org/>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 12:46 PM David Devereaux-Weber via grc <
>>> grc at maillist.peak.org <mailto:grc at maillist.peak.org>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Will,
>>>> 
>>>> We/you also need to understand music licensing. The music you
>> play on the
>>>> radio needs to be licensed for broadcast use, and your station
>> needs to pay
>>>> several broadcast licensing companies like ASCAP and BMI (to
>> name a few).
>>>> That licensing is limited to over-the-air broadcast, and may not
>> include
>>>> posting to YouTube.
>>>> 
>>>> Further, the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) two week
>> limit on
>>>> music may still apply.
>>>> 
>>>> Finally, you need to carefully examine the YouTube Terms of
>> Service to make
>>>> sure that you understand their effect on your content.
>>>> 
>>>> Dave
>>>> 
>>>> David Devereaux-Weber
>>>> President, WORT Board of Directors
>>>> president at wortfm.org <mailto:president at wortfm.org>
>> <President at wortfm.org <mailto:President at wortfm.org>>
>>>> (608)576-2599
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 1:07 PM Will Floyd via grc
>> <grc at maillist.peak.org <mailto:grc at maillist.peak.org>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm looking for some perspectives on station policies about show
>>>> ownership
>>>>> and cross posting to other platforms like youtube or podcast
>> platforms
>>>> that
>>>>> allow monetization. I know there are a range of approaches to
>> who owns
>>>>> radio shows produced by volunteers at community radio stations.
>> At some
>>>>> stations volunteers own the shows they produce, while at others the
>>>>> stations there is a joint ownership agreement of sorts under a
>> creative
>>>>> commons license. Perhaps there are stations out there that own
>> all shows
>>>>> produced by volunteers.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> - What is your station's policy on who owns
>> volunteer-produced shows?
>>>>> - Are volunteers allowed to monetize their back catalog of
>> shows on
>>>>> platforms like youtube and podcast distributors? Does the
>> station get
>>>> a
>>>>> cut?
>>>>> - Do you allow volunteers to repackage content they have
>> created and
>>>>> posted as a podcast or youtube video and air it on the your
>> station?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks for your input!
>>>>> Will
>>>>> 
>>>>> *William Floyd*
>>>>> Operations Manager
>>>>> 505.428.1491
>>>>> KSFR - Santa Fe Public Radio <http://www.ksfr.org/>
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