[grc] Community radio shows on other platforms
Doug McVay
dougmcvay at gmail.com
Mon Aug 3 12:47:17 PDT 2020
I'm not an attorney. I would think that the content owner has the right to
do what they want with their content, if they decided to use their content
commercially that would be perfectly fine because they're the licensee.
I've had content of mine lifted for commercial uses in spite of my use of
that license and when I contacted them about it they did the right thing.
(That's the kind of thing that bothers me, when commercial media just grabs
and uses content that's only been licensed for noncommercial uses.) It
comes down to who holds the license.
On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 12:37 PM Spencer Graves <
spencer.graves at effectivedefense.org> wrote:
> Hi, Doug:
>
>
> I'm not an attorney, but from what I know, CC BY-SA means that
> anyone
> can use it in whole or in part for commercial or non-commercial
> purposes, provided they acknowledge that they are using your material.
>
>
> If you add "noncommercial", it means that anyone wanting to use
> it
> (in whole or in part) for commercial purposes must ask for your
> permission, and you can charge for that or refuse to grant such
> permission, I believe.
>
>
> Is that correct?
>
>
> Thanks,
> Spencer Graves
>
>
> On 2020-08-03 14:19, Doug McVay wrote:
> > Creative Commons licenses are explained in great detail here:
> > https://creativecommons.org/licenses/
> >
> > If you want to take steps to preserve the noncommercial aspect of the
> > programming, then you'll want to include NonCommercial among the terms.
> > See for example
> > https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Doug
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 12:07 PM Spencer Graves via grc
> > <grc at maillist.peak.org <mailto:grc at maillist.peak.org>> wrote:
> >
> > Hello, All:
> >
> >
> > I started volunteering with KKFI over 4 years ago. I
> > once saw Mike
> > Murphy use a form that was a half page of legalese. I didn't like
> it.
> > I lobbied to change the policy to allow the use of the creative
> commons
> > attribution share-alike (CC BY-SA) license. KKFI's legal counsel
> said
> > he loved the creative commons. KKFI does not have an official
> > policy on
> > this as far as I know. I use the attached form, which invites the
> > person to specify either public domain or CC BY-SA (text copied
> below).
> >
> >
> > Spencer Graves
> >
> >
> > TEXT FROM THE ATTACHED WORD DOCUMENT:
> >
> >
> > I hereby give my permission for this presentation and supporting
> > material to be released (select one):
> >
> >
> > into the public domain (CC0), or
> >
> >
> > under the Creative Commons Attribution Share-Alike 4.0 (CC BY-SA)
> > license.1
> >
> >
> >
> > Signature: ________________________________________
> >
> >
> > Printed Name:
> > ________________________________________
> >
> >
> > Address: ________________________________________
> >
> > ________________________________________
> >
> > Date: _____________
> >
> > Event: _____________
> >
> >
> > 1. Creative Commons (CC) is a collection of licenses that support
> free
> > distribution. The “BY-SA” license authorizes redistribution under an
> > identical ("not more restrictive") license (share alike, SA) of
> > derivative work with attribution (BY). The official verbiage is
> > available on the web. Version 4.0 is international. The term
> “public
> > domain” does not mean the same in some countries as others; CC0
> > provides an international standard for what is know in the US as
> > “public
> > domain”. The complete verbiage is available on the Internet.
> >
> >
> > On 2020-08-03 13:54, Will Floyd via grc wrote:
> > > Thanks Tracy and David for the insight.
> > >
> > > I'll follow up to say that I am specifically concerned with
> > podcast-safe
> > > talk programming here. Given the non-commercial nature of our
> > station, I am
> > > interested in creating a license agreement with our volunteers
> > that would
> > > preserve their right of ownership but maintain the non-commercial
> > nature of
> > > the content, in such a way that the station would have some say
> > about it
> > > being monetized on Youtube or via podcast.
> > >
> > > *William Floyd*
> > > Operations Manager
> > > 505.428.1491
> > > KSFR - Santa Fe Public Radio <http://www.ksfr.org/>
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 12:46 PM David Devereaux-Weber via grc <
> > > grc at maillist.peak.org <mailto:grc at maillist.peak.org>> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Will,
> > >>
> > >> We/you also need to understand music licensing. The music you
> > play on the
> > >> radio needs to be licensed for broadcast use, and your station
> > needs to pay
> > >> several broadcast licensing companies like ASCAP and BMI (to
> > name a few).
> > >> That licensing is limited to over-the-air broadcast, and may not
> > include
> > >> posting to YouTube.
> > >>
> > >> Further, the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) two week
> > limit on
> > >> music may still apply.
> > >>
> > >> Finally, you need to carefully examine the YouTube Terms of
> > Service to make
> > >> sure that you understand their effect on your content.
> > >>
> > >> Dave
> > >>
> > >> David Devereaux-Weber
> > >> President, WORT Board of Directors
> > >> president at wortfm.org <mailto:president at wortfm.org>
> > <President at wortfm.org <mailto:President at wortfm.org>>
> > >> (608)576-2599
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 1:07 PM Will Floyd via grc
> > <grc at maillist.peak.org <mailto:grc at maillist.peak.org>>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Hi all,
> > >>>
> > >>> I'm looking for some perspectives on station policies about show
> > >> ownership
> > >>> and cross posting to other platforms like youtube or podcast
> > platforms
> > >> that
> > >>> allow monetization. I know there are a range of approaches to
> > who owns
> > >>> radio shows produced by volunteers at community radio stations.
> > At some
> > >>> stations volunteers own the shows they produce, while at others
> the
> > >>> stations there is a joint ownership agreement of sorts under a
> > creative
> > >>> commons license. Perhaps there are stations out there that own
> > all shows
> > >>> produced by volunteers.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> - What is your station's policy on who owns
> > volunteer-produced shows?
> > >>> - Are volunteers allowed to monetize their back catalog of
> > shows on
> > >>> platforms like youtube and podcast distributors? Does the
> > station get
> > >> a
> > >>> cut?
> > >>> - Do you allow volunteers to repackage content they have
> > created and
> > >>> posted as a podcast or youtube video and air it on the your
> > station?
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks for your input!
> > >>> Will
> > >>>
> > >>> *William Floyd*
> > >>> Operations Manager
> > >>> 505.428.1491
> > >>> KSFR - Santa Fe Public Radio <http://www.ksfr.org/>
> > >>> _______________________________________________
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> > --
> > Doug McVay
> > Senior Policy Analyst, Health Systems Facts / Real Reporting Foundation
> > http://healthsystemsfacts.org/
> > Editor, Drug War Facts
> > www.drugwarfacts.org <http://www.drugwarfacts.org/>
> > Host/Producer, Century Of Lies
> > http://www.drugtruth.net/century-of-lies
> > Host/Producer, Free Culture Radio
> > www.kboo.fm/freeculture <http://www.kboo.fm/freeculture>
> > cel: 717.940.2154
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> > "Until we are all free, we are none of us free."
> > -- Emma Lazarus
>
--
Doug McVay
Senior Policy Analyst, Health Systems Facts / Real Reporting Foundation
http://healthsystemsfacts.org/
Editor, Drug War Facts
www.drugwarfacts.org
Host/Producer, Century Of Lies
http://www.drugtruth.net/century-of-lies
Host/Producer, Free Culture Radio
www.kboo.fm/freeculture
cel: 717.940.2154
twitter: @dougmcvay and @drugpolicyfacts
skype: dougmcvay
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"Until we are all free, we are none of us free."
-- Emma Lazarus
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