[grc] Does anyone remember the names of this software?

[David Klann]

Hi Amoshaun,

On 6/2/21 11:42, you, via grc wrote:
> Hi GRC,
> 
> As an educator, I love that Audacity is free, but there are two features that make it hard for beginners:
> 
> 1. You have to build you own folder hierarchy, and if you screw it up you loose your project. This is supposed to be fixed with the new release, but I have not tried it.
> 

This is indeed changed in the latest version of Audacity. The audio 
"snippets" that comprise an Audacity project are now stored in a single 
file (actually a SQLite database, but users don't need to know that). So 
now, Audacity "projects" are much easier to manage and move around.

> 2. When you clip a track on one end for a cross-fade, you cannot recover where you cut to expand it back out again in the event that you cut into the person talking. Digital editing is non-destructive, and other programs allow this function, but Audacity has instituted a destructive editing process in their code that requires that you start over with a new file import to expand the excerpt envelope for a clip. Boo...
> 

I believe non-destructive editing is on the list of proposed 
enhancements with the new owners of the Audacity code base. Also, with 
Audacity version 3.0.0 you can simulate non-destructive editing using 
Backup Projects feature. Learn more about it at this Audacity Bootcamp 
episode: 
https://audacitybootcamp.com/2021/05/12/how-to-edit-non-destructively-in-audacity/

It's not true non-destructive editing, but it's a potentially useful 
work-around.

> PS: I miss cool edit and sound forge! What a blast from the past. Those were the days...
> 

I miss SoundForge too! I was living in Madison, volunteering at WORT in 
the late 90's and early 2000's when the authors of SoundForge were also 
in Madison.


> I now teach Hindenburg when I am able to get free licenses for students, as the interface is amazing for public affairs programming.
> 
> Amoshaun
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: grc <grc-bounces at maillist.peak.org> On Behalf Of Spencer Graves via grc
> Sent: Wednesday, June 2, 2021 9:27 AM
> To: grc at maillist.peak.org
> Subject: Re: [grc] Does anyone remember the names of this software?
> 
> Hi, Frieda et al.:
> 
> 
> 	  What do you not like about Audacity that drives you to look at commercial alternatives?
> 
> 
> 	  Spencer Graves
> 
> 
> On 6/2/21 5:35 AM, David Devereaux-Weber via grc wrote:
>> Frieda,
>>
>> I think the software you mention was Sound Forge:
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_Forge
>>
>> Adobe Audition has a different origin thread;
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Audition
>>
>>
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 2, 2021 at 5:08 AM Frieda Werden via grc <grc at maillist.peak.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> There is an editing software that I think is currently called Adobe
>>> Audition, and it seems to be the same as what we were given on a disc for
>>> free at the GRC in Madison way back in the '90s.  I think it has been sold
>>> on to at least two other companies, and I'm trying to remember all the
>>> names.
>>>
>>> Am I right that pretty much nothing has changed about it but the company
>>> names?  Or am I missing the good stuff?
>>>
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